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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 14:03:54
June 15 2012 13:57 GMT
#42441
On June 15 2012 13:27 Ushio wrote:
Oh my god heavens feel route. I cant stop these man tears from flowing ( TДT)

Damn, they really got that nakige on point

My face when HF is nakige. Unless you mean tears of joy.

On June 15 2012 16:30 Emnjay808 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Need a VN recommendation] +
I wanted to download and play Soranica Ele, but there was no english patch that I could find. Does anyone know if there is a VN similar to it? And by "similar" I mean a recent VN with a similar plot and same looking girls. Im trying not to sound as shallow as possible, but ya, pretty much I just wanna play a game that has nice looking girls.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]Too freaking kawaii, ugh.

If you just want good looking girls why not just download CG sets like Blast should? Not like you need the text.

Soranica was a fun game but you actually need to read it, in terms of just cute girls if that style is what you like search by artist and grab CG sets.

On June 15 2012 16:47 Aerisky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 16:33 Blasterion wrote:
On June 15 2012 16:30 Emnjay808 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Need a VN recommendation] +
I wanted to download and play Soranica Ele, but there was no english patch that I could find. Does anyone know if there is a VN similar to it? And by "similar" I mean a recent VN with a similar plot and same looking girls. Im trying not to sound as shallow as possible, but ya, pretty much I just wanna play a game that has nice looking girls.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]Too freaking kawaii, ugh.

Euphoria is an AMAZING game. It has cute girls.

Agreed, though the alternate ending to the OVAs was pretty screwed up, I assume it was one of the bad ends :S

You know that game is based around rape and not-so-normal sex right?

On June 15 2012 21:55 Late wrote:
Silver Spoon:

+ Show Spoiler +
Only recently I found out about this new series created by the author of FMA Hiromu Arakawa. At first I thought it wouldn't be that good, but I was quickly proven wrong. The manga has this feeling of freshness I haven't felt in a long while and is a great change of pace from your typical high school dramas(despite the setting being an agricultural high school). The story flows nicely and is really informative on various agriculture related subjects. There are a lot of gags, great character designs(one of the teachers looks like Buddha, lol) and the art in general is great. And best of all - ARMSTRONG CAMEO, or rather - a PE teacher that looks like him. I would suggest it to anyone looking for a nice read.

She has done quite a good job w/ Silver Spoon, I am enjoying it a lot so far. Its been a while since I enjoyed a manga w/ this kind of theme, probably since Aria.
Emix_Squall
Profile Joined February 2012
France705 Posts
June 15 2012 14:01 GMT
#42442
On June 15 2012 22:40 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 22:30 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:17 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:06 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 21:33 Dingotrold wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 15 2012 18:30 Emix_Squall wrote:
Hi, I never posted on this anime thread but I've been watching some for quite some years so far and always managed to pick the good ones, was never really disappointed by an anime. Recently I started to watch Code Geass which I heard a lot of good of and I must say that I really enjoyed it until yesterday evening.

Yesterday evening I saw episode 22 and something happened that I had never experienced in any show, anime, book, manga, movie or anything ....

+ Show Spoiler +
So basically in episode 22, Euphie just created her new Japan Independent nation and invited all rebels including Zero to join her. Lelouch joins and after his talk with Euphie he looses control over his Geass and orders her to kill all japanese, leading to the most despicable bloodbath (as far as it being aimed toward unarmed civilians, and being so unexpected) I ever saw in an anime. Seeing her slowly walk that path I felt it like a treason from the author. I really felt bad inside like he shouldn't have done that. During 22 episode in the show, they grow this character as the only (until we meet Shneizer) decent princess from Britannia, the only loveable member of the royal family, one of the only characters of the show with enough humanity that you might hope for the show to get a nice happy ending (yes, I like nice happy endings). And out of the blue this is thrown at us. WHYYY???? Why so much hatred ??? I'm 23, but I still love to feel like a child and get excited like a kid about this kind of stuff, but man that broke my heart ... how could they do that ... ???


So just a few questions to whoever might know:

- Was the anime supposed to be that way or is it that they shortened it and had to wrap things up quickly (even though the show is good, at several moments the transitions between scenes and events is quite sloppy ... like things were rushed)?
- Am I the only one who felt that way watching this?


Seriously I was crushed, for those of you who know the NBC show Community, my reaction face was very much like Troy's face after Abed's "I'm a cartoon" prank:

[image loading]


Code Geass

+ Show Spoiler +
Felt the same way, and while I think it's awesome that the creators would have balls to do stuff like this (it's part of the reason I like anime, you never get something as hardcore as this anywhere else), but it's just so disheartening and gave me such a sinking feeling. Still haven't watched the final 2 episodes cause I'm scared where it's going to go.


Code Geass

I'm gonna watch the remaining episodes tonight coz now that I've seen that, I really want an ending to that shit, may it be could or bad at this point doesn't even matter to me any more. I just want to see things end. I could PM you my impressions (without spoiling of course) after if you're interested (since we got the same opinion of the show I thought you might ).

And I'm still wondering (if anyone got information on that plz share) if the end of the show was rushed. I can read on wikipedia that they initially wanted it to last 50 episodes but they only made 26.
But did they knew from the beginning they'd only have 26 episode (in which case they just did a story that could fit in 26 episode) or did they learn it when they were halfway through it, forcing them to wrap things up quickly (which IMO, would explain this tremendously violent turn of events)?

Code Geass is 50 episodes. Season 1 is 25 episodes, and then R2 is another 25 episodes. So you are at the half way point.

They changed writers and time-slot between Season 1 and R2, but was it rushed? Nah. But have fun with R2 if that upset you so much, lol. R2 makes it a point to try and go "WHAT A TWIST, I BET YOU DIDN'T EXPECT THAT" all the fucking time.


OHHH Thank you sir! I really thought R2 was just like what FMA Brotherhood is to FMA. Would have watched it anyway but I would have never expected it to be what happens next in the story.
Still I'm fine with the whole "getting my mind blown at the end of every episode" thing, but this was not only mind blowing, this was just wrong to me. You don't build up a character to be the most loveable thing in the show just to make him end like that. I'm saying that having in mind Japanese kids and especially little girls watching the show. Now I don't know much about their culture but I'm pretty sure in Japan just like anywhere else, if you build up a princess character that is all kindness and good-will, giving it such an atrocious end must have been really shocking for the kids (hell I'm 23 and I was shocked).

It's like having Cinderella butcher all the mices and the fairy because halfway through the night the magic went out, wouldn't it be a horrible thing to show to children?

Even though Geass is Shounen, the first season had a late-time timeslot IIRC. Anyway, Japan is alot more used to violence in Anime than the West. You have anime like Gundam SEED where they animate people getting microwaved and exploding from the inside out, you have older Gundam shows where they kill off most of the cast and have the good wins only win a pyrrhic victory. You have stuff like Macross where the entire planet is virtually destroyed.

edit: Yeah, Season 1 airred at like 1:30am.



Ok that makes more sense now, I guess it was never really designed for kids ....
Damm though, that means they never rushed anything and this was the original intent of the writer. What a twisted mind one must have to do that It's either that or thinking that such a shocking turn of events would draw more attention toward the show.
Anyway seems like I should prepare myself for a very unhappy ending than :s
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 14:10:11
June 15 2012 14:05 GMT
#42443
On June 15 2012 23:01 Emix_Squall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 22:40 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:30 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:17 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:06 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 21:33 Dingotrold wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 15 2012 18:30 Emix_Squall wrote:
Hi, I never posted on this anime thread but I've been watching some for quite some years so far and always managed to pick the good ones, was never really disappointed by an anime. Recently I started to watch Code Geass which I heard a lot of good of and I must say that I really enjoyed it until yesterday evening.

Yesterday evening I saw episode 22 and something happened that I had never experienced in any show, anime, book, manga, movie or anything ....

+ Show Spoiler +
So basically in episode 22, Euphie just created her new Japan Independent nation and invited all rebels including Zero to join her. Lelouch joins and after his talk with Euphie he looses control over his Geass and orders her to kill all japanese, leading to the most despicable bloodbath (as far as it being aimed toward unarmed civilians, and being so unexpected) I ever saw in an anime. Seeing her slowly walk that path I felt it like a treason from the author. I really felt bad inside like he shouldn't have done that. During 22 episode in the show, they grow this character as the only (until we meet Shneizer) decent princess from Britannia, the only loveable member of the royal family, one of the only characters of the show with enough humanity that you might hope for the show to get a nice happy ending (yes, I like nice happy endings). And out of the blue this is thrown at us. WHYYY???? Why so much hatred ??? I'm 23, but I still love to feel like a child and get excited like a kid about this kind of stuff, but man that broke my heart ... how could they do that ... ???


So just a few questions to whoever might know:

- Was the anime supposed to be that way or is it that they shortened it and had to wrap things up quickly (even though the show is good, at several moments the transitions between scenes and events is quite sloppy ... like things were rushed)?
- Am I the only one who felt that way watching this?


Seriously I was crushed, for those of you who know the NBC show Community, my reaction face was very much like Troy's face after Abed's "I'm a cartoon" prank:

[image loading]


Code Geass

+ Show Spoiler +
Felt the same way, and while I think it's awesome that the creators would have balls to do stuff like this (it's part of the reason I like anime, you never get something as hardcore as this anywhere else), but it's just so disheartening and gave me such a sinking feeling. Still haven't watched the final 2 episodes cause I'm scared where it's going to go.


Code Geass

I'm gonna watch the remaining episodes tonight coz now that I've seen that, I really want an ending to that shit, may it be could or bad at this point doesn't even matter to me any more. I just want to see things end. I could PM you my impressions (without spoiling of course) after if you're interested (since we got the same opinion of the show I thought you might ).

And I'm still wondering (if anyone got information on that plz share) if the end of the show was rushed. I can read on wikipedia that they initially wanted it to last 50 episodes but they only made 26.
But did they knew from the beginning they'd only have 26 episode (in which case they just did a story that could fit in 26 episode) or did they learn it when they were halfway through it, forcing them to wrap things up quickly (which IMO, would explain this tremendously violent turn of events)?

Code Geass is 50 episodes. Season 1 is 25 episodes, and then R2 is another 25 episodes. So you are at the half way point.

They changed writers and time-slot between Season 1 and R2, but was it rushed? Nah. But have fun with R2 if that upset you so much, lol. R2 makes it a point to try and go "WHAT A TWIST, I BET YOU DIDN'T EXPECT THAT" all the fucking time.


OHHH Thank you sir! I really thought R2 was just like what FMA Brotherhood is to FMA. Would have watched it anyway but I would have never expected it to be what happens next in the story.
Still I'm fine with the whole "getting my mind blown at the end of every episode" thing, but this was not only mind blowing, this was just wrong to me. You don't build up a character to be the most loveable thing in the show just to make him end like that. I'm saying that having in mind Japanese kids and especially little girls watching the show. Now I don't know much about their culture but I'm pretty sure in Japan just like anywhere else, if you build up a princess character that is all kindness and good-will, giving it such an atrocious end must have been really shocking for the kids (hell I'm 23 and I was shocked).

It's like having Cinderella butcher all the mices and the fairy because halfway through the night the magic went out, wouldn't it be a horrible thing to show to children?

Even though Geass is Shounen, the first season had a late-time timeslot IIRC. Anyway, Japan is alot more used to violence in Anime than the West. You have anime like Gundam SEED where they animate people getting microwaved and exploding from the inside out, you have older Gundam shows where they kill off most of the cast and have the good wins only win a pyrrhic victory. You have stuff like Macross where the entire planet is virtually destroyed.

edit: Yeah, Season 1 airred at like 1:30am.



Ok that makes more sense now, I guess it was never really designed for kids ....
Damm though, that means they never rushed anything and this was the original intent of the writer. What a twisted mind one must have to do that It's either that or thinking that such a shocking turn of events would draw more attention toward the show.
Anyway seems like I should prepare myself for a very unhappy ending than :s

Well, of the various issues I have with R2, one was how I felt they moved away from their original intent. Writing staff change and such. Watch and decide for yourself. Most people who like R2 liked the ending.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
June 15 2012 14:11 GMT
#42444
On June 15 2012 23:01 Emix_Squall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 22:40 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:30 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:17 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:06 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 21:33 Dingotrold wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 15 2012 18:30 Emix_Squall wrote:
Hi, I never posted on this anime thread but I've been watching some for quite some years so far and always managed to pick the good ones, was never really disappointed by an anime. Recently I started to watch Code Geass which I heard a lot of good of and I must say that I really enjoyed it until yesterday evening.

Yesterday evening I saw episode 22 and something happened that I had never experienced in any show, anime, book, manga, movie or anything ....

+ Show Spoiler +
So basically in episode 22, Euphie just created her new Japan Independent nation and invited all rebels including Zero to join her. Lelouch joins and after his talk with Euphie he looses control over his Geass and orders her to kill all japanese, leading to the most despicable bloodbath (as far as it being aimed toward unarmed civilians, and being so unexpected) I ever saw in an anime. Seeing her slowly walk that path I felt it like a treason from the author. I really felt bad inside like he shouldn't have done that. During 22 episode in the show, they grow this character as the only (until we meet Shneizer) decent princess from Britannia, the only loveable member of the royal family, one of the only characters of the show with enough humanity that you might hope for the show to get a nice happy ending (yes, I like nice happy endings). And out of the blue this is thrown at us. WHYYY???? Why so much hatred ??? I'm 23, but I still love to feel like a child and get excited like a kid about this kind of stuff, but man that broke my heart ... how could they do that ... ???


So just a few questions to whoever might know:

- Was the anime supposed to be that way or is it that they shortened it and had to wrap things up quickly (even though the show is good, at several moments the transitions between scenes and events is quite sloppy ... like things were rushed)?
- Am I the only one who felt that way watching this?


Seriously I was crushed, for those of you who know the NBC show Community, my reaction face was very much like Troy's face after Abed's "I'm a cartoon" prank:

[image loading]


Code Geass

+ Show Spoiler +
Felt the same way, and while I think it's awesome that the creators would have balls to do stuff like this (it's part of the reason I like anime, you never get something as hardcore as this anywhere else), but it's just so disheartening and gave me such a sinking feeling. Still haven't watched the final 2 episodes cause I'm scared where it's going to go.


Code Geass

I'm gonna watch the remaining episodes tonight coz now that I've seen that, I really want an ending to that shit, may it be could or bad at this point doesn't even matter to me any more. I just want to see things end. I could PM you my impressions (without spoiling of course) after if you're interested (since we got the same opinion of the show I thought you might ).

And I'm still wondering (if anyone got information on that plz share) if the end of the show was rushed. I can read on wikipedia that they initially wanted it to last 50 episodes but they only made 26.
But did they knew from the beginning they'd only have 26 episode (in which case they just did a story that could fit in 26 episode) or did they learn it when they were halfway through it, forcing them to wrap things up quickly (which IMO, would explain this tremendously violent turn of events)?

Code Geass is 50 episodes. Season 1 is 25 episodes, and then R2 is another 25 episodes. So you are at the half way point.

They changed writers and time-slot between Season 1 and R2, but was it rushed? Nah. But have fun with R2 if that upset you so much, lol. R2 makes it a point to try and go "WHAT A TWIST, I BET YOU DIDN'T EXPECT THAT" all the fucking time.


OHHH Thank you sir! I really thought R2 was just like what FMA Brotherhood is to FMA. Would have watched it anyway but I would have never expected it to be what happens next in the story.
Still I'm fine with the whole "getting my mind blown at the end of every episode" thing, but this was not only mind blowing, this was just wrong to me. You don't build up a character to be the most loveable thing in the show just to make him end like that. I'm saying that having in mind Japanese kids and especially little girls watching the show. Now I don't know much about their culture but I'm pretty sure in Japan just like anywhere else, if you build up a princess character that is all kindness and good-will, giving it such an atrocious end must have been really shocking for the kids (hell I'm 23 and I was shocked).

It's like having Cinderella butcher all the mices and the fairy because halfway through the night the magic went out, wouldn't it be a horrible thing to show to children?

Even though Geass is Shounen, the first season had a late-time timeslot IIRC. Anyway, Japan is alot more used to violence in Anime than the West. You have anime like Gundam SEED where they animate people getting microwaved and exploding from the inside out, you have older Gundam shows where they kill off most of the cast and have the good wins only win a pyrrhic victory. You have stuff like Macross where the entire planet is virtually destroyed.

edit: Yeah, Season 1 airred at like 1:30am.



Ok that makes more sense now, I guess it was never really designed for kids ....
Damm though, that means they never rushed anything and this was the original intent of the writer. What a twisted mind one must have to do that It's either that or thinking that such a shocking turn of events would draw more attention toward the show.
Anyway seems like I should prepare myself for a very unhappy ending than :s

Code Geass
+ Show Spoiler +

Yay I get to post this :D[image loading]
When I watched that part, it was a pretty big WTF moment for me too.

It's debatable whether or not the story was the original intent of the writer or not. Although the Euphie part probably was, but IIRC, Orange was supposed to have died earlier on, but the fans loved him too much? so they brought him back.

R2 was just a trainwreck, entertaining, but still trainwreck.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
June 15 2012 14:17 GMT
#42445
On June 15 2012 16:33 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 16:30 Emnjay808 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Need a VN recommendation] +
I wanted to download and play Soranica Ele, but there was no english patch that I could find. Does anyone know if there is a VN similar to it? And by "similar" I mean a recent VN with a similar plot and same looking girls. Im trying not to sound as shallow as possible, but ya, pretty much I just wanna play a game that has nice looking girls.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]Too freaking kawaii, ugh.

Euphoria is an AMAZING game. It has cute girls.


You and Shauni should get a long well.

You both love rape and BDSM.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 15 2012 14:28 GMT
#42446
I've been watching Fairy Tail, and have basically caught up to where the show is now. In some filler episodes right now. It is definitely not as good as One Piece, but I've still enjoyed it.


+ Show Spoiler [Fairy Tail animu spoilers] +
Can anyone tell me WHY Mashima thought it was a good idea to bring Lysanna back from the dead? When they had her in Edolas, I thought "huh, maybe they are gonna focus on Lysanna and have some drama and shit with that", but nope, only like 1 scene and then shes irrelevant for the rest of the arc. Okay, then afterwards she gets brought back with everyone. Okay, maybe now they are gonna do something with bringing her back! We get a scene with Mira and Elfman getting sad, but thats it. Now shes just... There. They haven't done anything with her. What was the point of bringing her back from the dead? Seems like they did it just cuz. She hasn't brought anything to the story at all, and just existed as an extra fighter on Tenroujima.

Another "major" thing they did for little reason was the Time Skip. WHY? What was the fucking point in having a Time Skip, but then have the entire cast that matters not actually be affected by it? Those side characters who aged are just that, almost irrelevant side characters. The Time Skip doesn't seem like it has brought anything to the anime. It almost feels like they did a Time Skip just because One Piece and most other like-Shounens do it.

+ Show Spoiler +
btw while this does seem like alot of complaining, don't mistake it for me not liking the show lol
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
June 15 2012 14:36 GMT
#42447
On June 15 2012 23:28 Sentenal wrote:
I've been watching Fairy Tail, and have basically caught up to where the show is now. In some filler episodes right now. It is definitely not as good as One Piece, but I've still enjoyed it.


+ Show Spoiler [Fairy Tail animu spoilers] +
Can anyone tell me WHY Mashima thought it was a good idea to bring Lysanna back from the dead? When they had her in Edolas, I thought "huh, maybe they are gonna focus on Lysanna and have some drama and shit with that", but nope, only like 1 scene and then shes irrelevant for the rest of the arc. Okay, then afterwards she gets brought back with everyone. Okay, maybe now they are gonna do something with bringing her back! We get a scene with Mira and Elfman getting sad, but thats it. Now shes just... There. They haven't done anything with her. What was the point of bringing her back from the dead? Seems like they did it just cuz. She hasn't brought anything to the story at all, and just existed as an extra fighter on Tenroujima.

Another "major" thing they did for little reason was the Time Skip. WHY? What was the fucking point in having a Time Skip, but then have the entire cast that matters not actually be affected by it? Those side characters who aged are just that, almost irrelevant side characters. The Time Skip doesn't seem like it has brought anything to the anime. It almost feels like they did a Time Skip just because One Piece and most other like-Shounens do it.

+ Show Spoiler +
btw while this does seem like alot of complaining, don't mistake it for me not liking the show lol

+ Show Spoiler +

Lisanna was only brought back bcos it's fairy tail and no one ever dies. I was pretty damn dissapointed too when the only thing she said to natsu was NAAATSUUUUUUUUUUU, not even in later episodes which is pretty weird considering their past. I guess the timeskip was just because they were kind of running out of ideas and the timeskip would be an easy way to introduce new guilds etc.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 15 2012 14:47 GMT
#42448
On June 15 2012 23:36 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 23:28 Sentenal wrote:
I've been watching Fairy Tail, and have basically caught up to where the show is now. In some filler episodes right now. It is definitely not as good as One Piece, but I've still enjoyed it.


+ Show Spoiler [Fairy Tail animu spoilers] +
Can anyone tell me WHY Mashima thought it was a good idea to bring Lysanna back from the dead? When they had her in Edolas, I thought "huh, maybe they are gonna focus on Lysanna and have some drama and shit with that", but nope, only like 1 scene and then shes irrelevant for the rest of the arc. Okay, then afterwards she gets brought back with everyone. Okay, maybe now they are gonna do something with bringing her back! We get a scene with Mira and Elfman getting sad, but thats it. Now shes just... There. They haven't done anything with her. What was the point of bringing her back from the dead? Seems like they did it just cuz. She hasn't brought anything to the story at all, and just existed as an extra fighter on Tenroujima.

Another "major" thing they did for little reason was the Time Skip. WHY? What was the fucking point in having a Time Skip, but then have the entire cast that matters not actually be affected by it? Those side characters who aged are just that, almost irrelevant side characters. The Time Skip doesn't seem like it has brought anything to the anime. It almost feels like they did a Time Skip just because One Piece and most other like-Shounens do it.

+ Show Spoiler +
btw while this does seem like alot of complaining, don't mistake it for me not liking the show lol

+ Show Spoiler +

Lisanna was only brought back bcos it's fairy tail and no one ever dies. I was pretty damn dissapointed too when the only thing she said to natsu was NAAATSUUUUUUUUUUU, not even in later episodes which is pretty weird considering their past. I guess the timeskip was just because they were kind of running out of ideas and the timeskip would be an easy way to introduce new guilds etc.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah, if they are gonna bring back to life Natsu's first "love" interest, at least milk it for what its worth! Give an arc to fleshing out the relationship between Natsu, Lysanna, and her family. You would think this would have been a fairly big event, but no. The show has practically forgotten she was ever dead, or was closer-than normal with Natsu.

I don't think a Time Skip was necessary for introducing new Guilds and stuff. Doesn't the majority of Fairy Tail take place in one country, Fiore or whatever? Bring in new enemies/factions/guilds from outside the country. That could even give them an excuse for more Magic Council plot and stuff. Seems like Earthland or whatever is still largely unexplored by the Mangaka.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Emix_Squall
Profile Joined February 2012
France705 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 14:55:26
June 15 2012 14:55 GMT
#42449
On June 15 2012 23:47 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 23:36 solidbebe wrote:
On June 15 2012 23:28 Sentenal wrote:
I've been watching Fairy Tail, and have basically caught up to where the show is now. In some filler episodes right now. It is definitely not as good as One Piece, but I've still enjoyed it.


+ Show Spoiler [Fairy Tail animu spoilers] +
Can anyone tell me WHY Mashima thought it was a good idea to bring Lysanna back from the dead? When they had her in Edolas, I thought "huh, maybe they are gonna focus on Lysanna and have some drama and shit with that", but nope, only like 1 scene and then shes irrelevant for the rest of the arc. Okay, then afterwards she gets brought back with everyone. Okay, maybe now they are gonna do something with bringing her back! We get a scene with Mira and Elfman getting sad, but thats it. Now shes just... There. They haven't done anything with her. What was the point of bringing her back from the dead? Seems like they did it just cuz. She hasn't brought anything to the story at all, and just existed as an extra fighter on Tenroujima.

Another "major" thing they did for little reason was the Time Skip. WHY? What was the fucking point in having a Time Skip, but then have the entire cast that matters not actually be affected by it? Those side characters who aged are just that, almost irrelevant side characters. The Time Skip doesn't seem like it has brought anything to the anime. It almost feels like they did a Time Skip just because One Piece and most other like-Shounens do it.

+ Show Spoiler +
btw while this does seem like alot of complaining, don't mistake it for me not liking the show lol

+ Show Spoiler +

Lisanna was only brought back bcos it's fairy tail and no one ever dies. I was pretty damn dissapointed too when the only thing she said to natsu was NAAATSUUUUUUUUUUU, not even in later episodes which is pretty weird considering their past. I guess the timeskip was just because they were kind of running out of ideas and the timeskip would be an easy way to introduce new guilds etc.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah, if they are gonna bring back to life Natsu's first "love" interest, at least milk it for what its worth! Give an arc to fleshing out the relationship between Natsu, Lysanna, and her family. You would think this would have been a fairly big event, but no. The show has practically forgotten she was ever dead, or was closer-than normal with Natsu.

I don't think a Time Skip was necessary for introducing new Guilds and stuff. Doesn't the majority of Fairy Tail take place in one country, Fiore or whatever? Bring in new enemies/factions/guilds from outside the country. That could even give them an excuse for more Magic Council plot and stuff. Seems like Earthland or whatever is still largely unexplored by the Mangaka.


+ Show Spoiler +
To be honest, I feel like the whole concept of guilds and magic is under explored. Maybe I'm too biased considering how disappointed I was at the end of the Tenroujima Arc, but I have that feeling that Fairy Tail is very much built about around a few good ideas that made good arcs but with no real plan on the long term. Many storylines are under explored (Cana and Gildarts, Lysanna Elfman and Mira, even Grey's story IMO is underexplored ...) and considering we're in a world of magic with all the possibilities it opens, I can only see that as being because the author didn't think of it enough.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 15:14:32
June 15 2012 15:10 GMT
#42450
On June 15 2012 23:47 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 23:36 solidbebe wrote:
On June 15 2012 23:28 Sentenal wrote:
I've been watching Fairy Tail, and have basically caught up to where the show is now. In some filler episodes right now. It is definitely not as good as One Piece, but I've still enjoyed it.


+ Show Spoiler [Fairy Tail animu spoilers] +
Can anyone tell me WHY Mashima thought it was a good idea to bring Lysanna back from the dead? When they had her in Edolas, I thought "huh, maybe they are gonna focus on Lysanna and have some drama and shit with that", but nope, only like 1 scene and then shes irrelevant for the rest of the arc. Okay, then afterwards she gets brought back with everyone. Okay, maybe now they are gonna do something with bringing her back! We get a scene with Mira and Elfman getting sad, but thats it. Now shes just... There. They haven't done anything with her. What was the point of bringing her back from the dead? Seems like they did it just cuz. She hasn't brought anything to the story at all, and just existed as an extra fighter on Tenroujima.

Another "major" thing they did for little reason was the Time Skip. WHY? What was the fucking point in having a Time Skip, but then have the entire cast that matters not actually be affected by it? Those side characters who aged are just that, almost irrelevant side characters. The Time Skip doesn't seem like it has brought anything to the anime. It almost feels like they did a Time Skip just because One Piece and most other like-Shounens do it.

+ Show Spoiler +
btw while this does seem like alot of complaining, don't mistake it for me not liking the show lol

+ Show Spoiler +

Lisanna was only brought back bcos it's fairy tail and no one ever dies. I was pretty damn dissapointed too when the only thing she said to natsu was NAAATSUUUUUUUUUUU, not even in later episodes which is pretty weird considering their past. I guess the timeskip was just because they were kind of running out of ideas and the timeskip would be an easy way to introduce new guilds etc.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah, if they are gonna bring back to life Natsu's first "love" interest, at least milk it for what its worth! Give an arc to fleshing out the relationship between Natsu, Lysanna, and her family. You would think this would have been a fairly big event, but no. The show has practically forgotten she was ever dead, or was closer-than normal with Natsu.

I don't think a Time Skip was necessary for introducing new Guilds and stuff. Doesn't the majority of Fairy Tail take place in one country, Fiore or whatever? Bring in new enemies/factions/guilds from outside the country. That could even give them an excuse for more Magic Council plot and stuff. Seems like Earthland or whatever is still largely unexplored by the Mangaka.


+ Show Spoiler +
It was a lazy way to reset and bring stronger characters in. And have the existing side characters that didnt get caught up in the even to get some cheap developement without having to show it. Also theres some characters will get introduced that might help you make a bit more sense of why having everyone age without aging them was useful.

Thats all really. Its always been pretty helter skelter with char developement again its just really lazy work. But I still read it. Dont watch the show though.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 15:31:24
June 15 2012 15:31 GMT
#42451
I misses the .hack series. The 3 ova was nice, when are the next game/OA coming out
Kupo
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden151 Posts
June 15 2012 16:33 GMT
#42452
On June 15 2012 23:01 Emix_Squall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 22:40 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:30 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:17 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:06 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 21:33 Dingotrold wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 15 2012 18:30 Emix_Squall wrote:
Hi, I never posted on this anime thread but I've been watching some for quite some years so far and always managed to pick the good ones, was never really disappointed by an anime. Recently I started to watch Code Geass which I heard a lot of good of and I must say that I really enjoyed it until yesterday evening.

Yesterday evening I saw episode 22 and something happened that I had never experienced in any show, anime, book, manga, movie or anything ....

+ Show Spoiler +
So basically in episode 22, Euphie just created her new Japan Independent nation and invited all rebels including Zero to join her. Lelouch joins and after his talk with Euphie he looses control over his Geass and orders her to kill all japanese, leading to the most despicable bloodbath (as far as it being aimed toward unarmed civilians, and being so unexpected) I ever saw in an anime. Seeing her slowly walk that path I felt it like a treason from the author. I really felt bad inside like he shouldn't have done that. During 22 episode in the show, they grow this character as the only (until we meet Shneizer) decent princess from Britannia, the only loveable member of the royal family, one of the only characters of the show with enough humanity that you might hope for the show to get a nice happy ending (yes, I like nice happy endings). And out of the blue this is thrown at us. WHYYY???? Why so much hatred ??? I'm 23, but I still love to feel like a child and get excited like a kid about this kind of stuff, but man that broke my heart ... how could they do that ... ???


So just a few questions to whoever might know:

- Was the anime supposed to be that way or is it that they shortened it and had to wrap things up quickly (even though the show is good, at several moments the transitions between scenes and events is quite sloppy ... like things were rushed)?
- Am I the only one who felt that way watching this?


Seriously I was crushed, for those of you who know the NBC show Community, my reaction face was very much like Troy's face after Abed's "I'm a cartoon" prank:

[image loading]


Code Geass

+ Show Spoiler +
Felt the same way, and while I think it's awesome that the creators would have balls to do stuff like this (it's part of the reason I like anime, you never get something as hardcore as this anywhere else), but it's just so disheartening and gave me such a sinking feeling. Still haven't watched the final 2 episodes cause I'm scared where it's going to go.


Code Geass

I'm gonna watch the remaining episodes tonight coz now that I've seen that, I really want an ending to that shit, may it be could or bad at this point doesn't even matter to me any more. I just want to see things end. I could PM you my impressions (without spoiling of course) after if you're interested (since we got the same opinion of the show I thought you might ).

And I'm still wondering (if anyone got information on that plz share) if the end of the show was rushed. I can read on wikipedia that they initially wanted it to last 50 episodes but they only made 26.
But did they knew from the beginning they'd only have 26 episode (in which case they just did a story that could fit in 26 episode) or did they learn it when they were halfway through it, forcing them to wrap things up quickly (which IMO, would explain this tremendously violent turn of events)?

Code Geass is 50 episodes. Season 1 is 25 episodes, and then R2 is another 25 episodes. So you are at the half way point.

They changed writers and time-slot between Season 1 and R2, but was it rushed? Nah. But have fun with R2 if that upset you so much, lol. R2 makes it a point to try and go "WHAT A TWIST, I BET YOU DIDN'T EXPECT THAT" all the fucking time.


OHHH Thank you sir! I really thought R2 was just like what FMA Brotherhood is to FMA. Would have watched it anyway but I would have never expected it to be what happens next in the story.
Still I'm fine with the whole "getting my mind blown at the end of every episode" thing, but this was not only mind blowing, this was just wrong to me. You don't build up a character to be the most loveable thing in the show just to make him end like that. I'm saying that having in mind Japanese kids and especially little girls watching the show. Now I don't know much about their culture but I'm pretty sure in Japan just like anywhere else, if you build up a princess character that is all kindness and good-will, giving it such an atrocious end must have been really shocking for the kids (hell I'm 23 and I was shocked).

It's like having Cinderella butcher all the mices and the fairy because halfway through the night the magic went out, wouldn't it be a horrible thing to show to children?

Even though Geass is Shounen, the first season had a late-time timeslot IIRC. Anyway, Japan is alot more used to violence in Anime than the West. You have anime like Gundam SEED where they animate people getting microwaved and exploding from the inside out, you have older Gundam shows where they kill off most of the cast and have the good wins only win a pyrrhic victory. You have stuff like Macross where the entire planet is virtually destroyed.

edit: Yeah, Season 1 airred at like 1:30am.



Ok that makes more sense now, I guess it was never really designed for kids ....
Damm though, that means they never rushed anything and this was the original intent of the writer. What a twisted mind one must have to do that It's either that or thinking that such a shocking turn of events would draw more attention toward the show.
Anyway seems like I should prepare myself for a very unhappy ending than :s

Violent kid manga/anime is actually fairly common with stuff like Deadman Wonderland and Mirai Nikki. Age of the target audience typically depends on other things such as cute girls doing cute things.

The bold part is how they made the plot in Code Geass (especially in R2) and many other similar anime, and it's usually pretty successful.
Emix_Squall
Profile Joined February 2012
France705 Posts
June 15 2012 16:43 GMT
#42453
On June 16 2012 01:33 Kupo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 23:01 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:40 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:30 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:17 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:06 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 21:33 Dingotrold wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 15 2012 18:30 Emix_Squall wrote:
Hi, I never posted on this anime thread but I've been watching some for quite some years so far and always managed to pick the good ones, was never really disappointed by an anime. Recently I started to watch Code Geass which I heard a lot of good of and I must say that I really enjoyed it until yesterday evening.

Yesterday evening I saw episode 22 and something happened that I had never experienced in any show, anime, book, manga, movie or anything ....

+ Show Spoiler +
So basically in episode 22, Euphie just created her new Japan Independent nation and invited all rebels including Zero to join her. Lelouch joins and after his talk with Euphie he looses control over his Geass and orders her to kill all japanese, leading to the most despicable bloodbath (as far as it being aimed toward unarmed civilians, and being so unexpected) I ever saw in an anime. Seeing her slowly walk that path I felt it like a treason from the author. I really felt bad inside like he shouldn't have done that. During 22 episode in the show, they grow this character as the only (until we meet Shneizer) decent princess from Britannia, the only loveable member of the royal family, one of the only characters of the show with enough humanity that you might hope for the show to get a nice happy ending (yes, I like nice happy endings). And out of the blue this is thrown at us. WHYYY???? Why so much hatred ??? I'm 23, but I still love to feel like a child and get excited like a kid about this kind of stuff, but man that broke my heart ... how could they do that ... ???


So just a few questions to whoever might know:

- Was the anime supposed to be that way or is it that they shortened it and had to wrap things up quickly (even though the show is good, at several moments the transitions between scenes and events is quite sloppy ... like things were rushed)?
- Am I the only one who felt that way watching this?


Seriously I was crushed, for those of you who know the NBC show Community, my reaction face was very much like Troy's face after Abed's "I'm a cartoon" prank:

[image loading]


Code Geass

+ Show Spoiler +
Felt the same way, and while I think it's awesome that the creators would have balls to do stuff like this (it's part of the reason I like anime, you never get something as hardcore as this anywhere else), but it's just so disheartening and gave me such a sinking feeling. Still haven't watched the final 2 episodes cause I'm scared where it's going to go.


Code Geass

I'm gonna watch the remaining episodes tonight coz now that I've seen that, I really want an ending to that shit, may it be could or bad at this point doesn't even matter to me any more. I just want to see things end. I could PM you my impressions (without spoiling of course) after if you're interested (since we got the same opinion of the show I thought you might ).

And I'm still wondering (if anyone got information on that plz share) if the end of the show was rushed. I can read on wikipedia that they initially wanted it to last 50 episodes but they only made 26.
But did they knew from the beginning they'd only have 26 episode (in which case they just did a story that could fit in 26 episode) or did they learn it when they were halfway through it, forcing them to wrap things up quickly (which IMO, would explain this tremendously violent turn of events)?

Code Geass is 50 episodes. Season 1 is 25 episodes, and then R2 is another 25 episodes. So you are at the half way point.

They changed writers and time-slot between Season 1 and R2, but was it rushed? Nah. But have fun with R2 if that upset you so much, lol. R2 makes it a point to try and go "WHAT A TWIST, I BET YOU DIDN'T EXPECT THAT" all the fucking time.


OHHH Thank you sir! I really thought R2 was just like what FMA Brotherhood is to FMA. Would have watched it anyway but I would have never expected it to be what happens next in the story.
Still I'm fine with the whole "getting my mind blown at the end of every episode" thing, but this was not only mind blowing, this was just wrong to me. You don't build up a character to be the most loveable thing in the show just to make him end like that. I'm saying that having in mind Japanese kids and especially little girls watching the show. Now I don't know much about their culture but I'm pretty sure in Japan just like anywhere else, if you build up a princess character that is all kindness and good-will, giving it such an atrocious end must have been really shocking for the kids (hell I'm 23 and I was shocked).

It's like having Cinderella butcher all the mices and the fairy because halfway through the night the magic went out, wouldn't it be a horrible thing to show to children?

Even though Geass is Shounen, the first season had a late-time timeslot IIRC. Anyway, Japan is alot more used to violence in Anime than the West. You have anime like Gundam SEED where they animate people getting microwaved and exploding from the inside out, you have older Gundam shows where they kill off most of the cast and have the good wins only win a pyrrhic victory. You have stuff like Macross where the entire planet is virtually destroyed.

edit: Yeah, Season 1 airred at like 1:30am.



Ok that makes more sense now, I guess it was never really designed for kids ....
Damm though, that means they never rushed anything and this was the original intent of the writer. What a twisted mind one must have to do that It's either that or thinking that such a shocking turn of events would draw more attention toward the show.
Anyway seems like I should prepare myself for a very unhappy ending than :s

The bold part is how they made the plot in Code Geass (especially in R2) and many other similar anime, and it's usually pretty successful.


Not being a native english speaker I didn't quite get that sentence Are you saying that many anime have similar stories (in the main story lines)?
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 15 2012 16:45 GMT
#42454
On June 16 2012 01:43 Emix_Squall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 01:33 Kupo wrote:
On June 15 2012 23:01 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:40 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:30 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:17 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:06 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 21:33 Dingotrold wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 15 2012 18:30 Emix_Squall wrote:
Hi, I never posted on this anime thread but I've been watching some for quite some years so far and always managed to pick the good ones, was never really disappointed by an anime. Recently I started to watch Code Geass which I heard a lot of good of and I must say that I really enjoyed it until yesterday evening.

Yesterday evening I saw episode 22 and something happened that I had never experienced in any show, anime, book, manga, movie or anything ....

+ Show Spoiler +
So basically in episode 22, Euphie just created her new Japan Independent nation and invited all rebels including Zero to join her. Lelouch joins and after his talk with Euphie he looses control over his Geass and orders her to kill all japanese, leading to the most despicable bloodbath (as far as it being aimed toward unarmed civilians, and being so unexpected) I ever saw in an anime. Seeing her slowly walk that path I felt it like a treason from the author. I really felt bad inside like he shouldn't have done that. During 22 episode in the show, they grow this character as the only (until we meet Shneizer) decent princess from Britannia, the only loveable member of the royal family, one of the only characters of the show with enough humanity that you might hope for the show to get a nice happy ending (yes, I like nice happy endings). And out of the blue this is thrown at us. WHYYY???? Why so much hatred ??? I'm 23, but I still love to feel like a child and get excited like a kid about this kind of stuff, but man that broke my heart ... how could they do that ... ???


So just a few questions to whoever might know:

- Was the anime supposed to be that way or is it that they shortened it and had to wrap things up quickly (even though the show is good, at several moments the transitions between scenes and events is quite sloppy ... like things were rushed)?
- Am I the only one who felt that way watching this?


Seriously I was crushed, for those of you who know the NBC show Community, my reaction face was very much like Troy's face after Abed's "I'm a cartoon" prank:

[image loading]


Code Geass

+ Show Spoiler +
Felt the same way, and while I think it's awesome that the creators would have balls to do stuff like this (it's part of the reason I like anime, you never get something as hardcore as this anywhere else), but it's just so disheartening and gave me such a sinking feeling. Still haven't watched the final 2 episodes cause I'm scared where it's going to go.


Code Geass

I'm gonna watch the remaining episodes tonight coz now that I've seen that, I really want an ending to that shit, may it be could or bad at this point doesn't even matter to me any more. I just want to see things end. I could PM you my impressions (without spoiling of course) after if you're interested (since we got the same opinion of the show I thought you might ).

And I'm still wondering (if anyone got information on that plz share) if the end of the show was rushed. I can read on wikipedia that they initially wanted it to last 50 episodes but they only made 26.
But did they knew from the beginning they'd only have 26 episode (in which case they just did a story that could fit in 26 episode) or did they learn it when they were halfway through it, forcing them to wrap things up quickly (which IMO, would explain this tremendously violent turn of events)?

Code Geass is 50 episodes. Season 1 is 25 episodes, and then R2 is another 25 episodes. So you are at the half way point.

They changed writers and time-slot between Season 1 and R2, but was it rushed? Nah. But have fun with R2 if that upset you so much, lol. R2 makes it a point to try and go "WHAT A TWIST, I BET YOU DIDN'T EXPECT THAT" all the fucking time.


OHHH Thank you sir! I really thought R2 was just like what FMA Brotherhood is to FMA. Would have watched it anyway but I would have never expected it to be what happens next in the story.
Still I'm fine with the whole "getting my mind blown at the end of every episode" thing, but this was not only mind blowing, this was just wrong to me. You don't build up a character to be the most loveable thing in the show just to make him end like that. I'm saying that having in mind Japanese kids and especially little girls watching the show. Now I don't know much about their culture but I'm pretty sure in Japan just like anywhere else, if you build up a princess character that is all kindness and good-will, giving it such an atrocious end must have been really shocking for the kids (hell I'm 23 and I was shocked).

It's like having Cinderella butcher all the mices and the fairy because halfway through the night the magic went out, wouldn't it be a horrible thing to show to children?

Even though Geass is Shounen, the first season had a late-time timeslot IIRC. Anyway, Japan is alot more used to violence in Anime than the West. You have anime like Gundam SEED where they animate people getting microwaved and exploding from the inside out, you have older Gundam shows where they kill off most of the cast and have the good wins only win a pyrrhic victory. You have stuff like Macross where the entire planet is virtually destroyed.

edit: Yeah, Season 1 airred at like 1:30am.



Ok that makes more sense now, I guess it was never really designed for kids ....
Damm though, that means they never rushed anything and this was the original intent of the writer. What a twisted mind one must have to do that It's either that or thinking that such a shocking turn of events would draw more attention toward the show.
Anyway seems like I should prepare myself for a very unhappy ending than :s

The bold part is how they made the plot in Code Geass (especially in R2) and many other similar anime, and it's usually pretty successful.


Not being a native english speaker I didn't quite get that sentence Are you saying that many anime have similar stories (in the main story lines)?

He means that alot of other anime try to draw more attention towards the show with shocking events.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Emix_Squall
Profile Joined February 2012
France705 Posts
June 15 2012 16:55 GMT
#42455
On June 16 2012 01:45 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 01:43 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 16 2012 01:33 Kupo wrote:
On June 15 2012 23:01 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:40 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:30 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:17 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:06 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 21:33 Dingotrold wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 15 2012 18:30 Emix_Squall wrote:
Hi, I never posted on this anime thread but I've been watching some for quite some years so far and always managed to pick the good ones, was never really disappointed by an anime. Recently I started to watch Code Geass which I heard a lot of good of and I must say that I really enjoyed it until yesterday evening.

Yesterday evening I saw episode 22 and something happened that I had never experienced in any show, anime, book, manga, movie or anything ....

+ Show Spoiler +
So basically in episode 22, Euphie just created her new Japan Independent nation and invited all rebels including Zero to join her. Lelouch joins and after his talk with Euphie he looses control over his Geass and orders her to kill all japanese, leading to the most despicable bloodbath (as far as it being aimed toward unarmed civilians, and being so unexpected) I ever saw in an anime. Seeing her slowly walk that path I felt it like a treason from the author. I really felt bad inside like he shouldn't have done that. During 22 episode in the show, they grow this character as the only (until we meet Shneizer) decent princess from Britannia, the only loveable member of the royal family, one of the only characters of the show with enough humanity that you might hope for the show to get a nice happy ending (yes, I like nice happy endings). And out of the blue this is thrown at us. WHYYY???? Why so much hatred ??? I'm 23, but I still love to feel like a child and get excited like a kid about this kind of stuff, but man that broke my heart ... how could they do that ... ???


So just a few questions to whoever might know:

- Was the anime supposed to be that way or is it that they shortened it and had to wrap things up quickly (even though the show is good, at several moments the transitions between scenes and events is quite sloppy ... like things were rushed)?
- Am I the only one who felt that way watching this?


Seriously I was crushed, for those of you who know the NBC show Community, my reaction face was very much like Troy's face after Abed's "I'm a cartoon" prank:

[image loading]


Code Geass

+ Show Spoiler +
Felt the same way, and while I think it's awesome that the creators would have balls to do stuff like this (it's part of the reason I like anime, you never get something as hardcore as this anywhere else), but it's just so disheartening and gave me such a sinking feeling. Still haven't watched the final 2 episodes cause I'm scared where it's going to go.


Code Geass

I'm gonna watch the remaining episodes tonight coz now that I've seen that, I really want an ending to that shit, may it be could or bad at this point doesn't even matter to me any more. I just want to see things end. I could PM you my impressions (without spoiling of course) after if you're interested (since we got the same opinion of the show I thought you might ).

And I'm still wondering (if anyone got information on that plz share) if the end of the show was rushed. I can read on wikipedia that they initially wanted it to last 50 episodes but they only made 26.
But did they knew from the beginning they'd only have 26 episode (in which case they just did a story that could fit in 26 episode) or did they learn it when they were halfway through it, forcing them to wrap things up quickly (which IMO, would explain this tremendously violent turn of events)?

Code Geass is 50 episodes. Season 1 is 25 episodes, and then R2 is another 25 episodes. So you are at the half way point.

They changed writers and time-slot between Season 1 and R2, but was it rushed? Nah. But have fun with R2 if that upset you so much, lol. R2 makes it a point to try and go "WHAT A TWIST, I BET YOU DIDN'T EXPECT THAT" all the fucking time.


OHHH Thank you sir! I really thought R2 was just like what FMA Brotherhood is to FMA. Would have watched it anyway but I would have never expected it to be what happens next in the story.
Still I'm fine with the whole "getting my mind blown at the end of every episode" thing, but this was not only mind blowing, this was just wrong to me. You don't build up a character to be the most loveable thing in the show just to make him end like that. I'm saying that having in mind Japanese kids and especially little girls watching the show. Now I don't know much about their culture but I'm pretty sure in Japan just like anywhere else, if you build up a princess character that is all kindness and good-will, giving it such an atrocious end must have been really shocking for the kids (hell I'm 23 and I was shocked).

It's like having Cinderella butcher all the mices and the fairy because halfway through the night the magic went out, wouldn't it be a horrible thing to show to children?

Even though Geass is Shounen, the first season had a late-time timeslot IIRC. Anyway, Japan is alot more used to violence in Anime than the West. You have anime like Gundam SEED where they animate people getting microwaved and exploding from the inside out, you have older Gundam shows where they kill off most of the cast and have the good wins only win a pyrrhic victory. You have stuff like Macross where the entire planet is virtually destroyed.

edit: Yeah, Season 1 airred at like 1:30am.



Ok that makes more sense now, I guess it was never really designed for kids ....
Damm though, that means they never rushed anything and this was the original intent of the writer. What a twisted mind one must have to do that It's either that or thinking that such a shocking turn of events would draw more attention toward the show.
Anyway seems like I should prepare myself for a very unhappy ending than :s

The bold part is how they made the plot in Code Geass (especially in R2) and many other similar anime, and it's usually pretty successful.


Not being a native english speaker I didn't quite get that sentence Are you saying that many anime have similar stories (in the main story lines)?

He means that alot of other anime try to draw more attention towards the show with shocking events.


That's quite sad ... I'm fine with being shocked once in a while when it's well made or perfectly justified later on in a story (not saying it's not in Code Geass, I still have to watch what happens further), but shocking events that have no other purpose than drawing more attention, without fitting that well in the story are a real treason to the viewership IMO. In books and movies, this feeling can be even stronger since they're considered to be some forms of art.
Kupo
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden151 Posts
June 15 2012 17:12 GMT
#42456
On June 16 2012 01:55 Emix_Squall wrote:
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On June 16 2012 01:45 Sentenal wrote:
On June 16 2012 01:43 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 16 2012 01:33 Kupo wrote:
On June 15 2012 23:01 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:40 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:30 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:17 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:06 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 21:33 Dingotrold wrote:
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On June 15 2012 18:30 Emix_Squall wrote:
Hi, I never posted on this anime thread but I've been watching some for quite some years so far and always managed to pick the good ones, was never really disappointed by an anime. Recently I started to watch Code Geass which I heard a lot of good of and I must say that I really enjoyed it until yesterday evening.

Yesterday evening I saw episode 22 and something happened that I had never experienced in any show, anime, book, manga, movie or anything ....

+ Show Spoiler +
So basically in episode 22, Euphie just created her new Japan Independent nation and invited all rebels including Zero to join her. Lelouch joins and after his talk with Euphie he looses control over his Geass and orders her to kill all japanese, leading to the most despicable bloodbath (as far as it being aimed toward unarmed civilians, and being so unexpected) I ever saw in an anime. Seeing her slowly walk that path I felt it like a treason from the author. I really felt bad inside like he shouldn't have done that. During 22 episode in the show, they grow this character as the only (until we meet Shneizer) decent princess from Britannia, the only loveable member of the royal family, one of the only characters of the show with enough humanity that you might hope for the show to get a nice happy ending (yes, I like nice happy endings). And out of the blue this is thrown at us. WHYYY???? Why so much hatred ??? I'm 23, but I still love to feel like a child and get excited like a kid about this kind of stuff, but man that broke my heart ... how could they do that ... ???


So just a few questions to whoever might know:

- Was the anime supposed to be that way or is it that they shortened it and had to wrap things up quickly (even though the show is good, at several moments the transitions between scenes and events is quite sloppy ... like things were rushed)?
- Am I the only one who felt that way watching this?


Seriously I was crushed, for those of you who know the NBC show Community, my reaction face was very much like Troy's face after Abed's "I'm a cartoon" prank:

[image loading]


Code Geass

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Felt the same way, and while I think it's awesome that the creators would have balls to do stuff like this (it's part of the reason I like anime, you never get something as hardcore as this anywhere else), but it's just so disheartening and gave me such a sinking feeling. Still haven't watched the final 2 episodes cause I'm scared where it's going to go.


Code Geass

I'm gonna watch the remaining episodes tonight coz now that I've seen that, I really want an ending to that shit, may it be could or bad at this point doesn't even matter to me any more. I just want to see things end. I could PM you my impressions (without spoiling of course) after if you're interested (since we got the same opinion of the show I thought you might ).

And I'm still wondering (if anyone got information on that plz share) if the end of the show was rushed. I can read on wikipedia that they initially wanted it to last 50 episodes but they only made 26.
But did they knew from the beginning they'd only have 26 episode (in which case they just did a story that could fit in 26 episode) or did they learn it when they were halfway through it, forcing them to wrap things up quickly (which IMO, would explain this tremendously violent turn of events)?

Code Geass is 50 episodes. Season 1 is 25 episodes, and then R2 is another 25 episodes. So you are at the half way point.

They changed writers and time-slot between Season 1 and R2, but was it rushed? Nah. But have fun with R2 if that upset you so much, lol. R2 makes it a point to try and go "WHAT A TWIST, I BET YOU DIDN'T EXPECT THAT" all the fucking time.


OHHH Thank you sir! I really thought R2 was just like what FMA Brotherhood is to FMA. Would have watched it anyway but I would have never expected it to be what happens next in the story.
Still I'm fine with the whole "getting my mind blown at the end of every episode" thing, but this was not only mind blowing, this was just wrong to me. You don't build up a character to be the most loveable thing in the show just to make him end like that. I'm saying that having in mind Japanese kids and especially little girls watching the show. Now I don't know much about their culture but I'm pretty sure in Japan just like anywhere else, if you build up a princess character that is all kindness and good-will, giving it such an atrocious end must have been really shocking for the kids (hell I'm 23 and I was shocked).

It's like having Cinderella butcher all the mices and the fairy because halfway through the night the magic went out, wouldn't it be a horrible thing to show to children?

Even though Geass is Shounen, the first season had a late-time timeslot IIRC. Anyway, Japan is alot more used to violence in Anime than the West. You have anime like Gundam SEED where they animate people getting microwaved and exploding from the inside out, you have older Gundam shows where they kill off most of the cast and have the good wins only win a pyrrhic victory. You have stuff like Macross where the entire planet is virtually destroyed.

edit: Yeah, Season 1 airred at like 1:30am.



Ok that makes more sense now, I guess it was never really designed for kids ....
Damm though, that means they never rushed anything and this was the original intent of the writer. What a twisted mind one must have to do that It's either that or thinking that such a shocking turn of events would draw more attention toward the show.
Anyway seems like I should prepare myself for a very unhappy ending than :s

The bold part is how they made the plot in Code Geass (especially in R2) and many other similar anime, and it's usually pretty successful.


Not being a native english speaker I didn't quite get that sentence Are you saying that many anime have similar stories (in the main story lines)?

He means that alot of other anime try to draw more attention towards the show with shocking events.


That's quite sad ... I'm fine with being shocked once in a while when it's well made or perfectly justified later on in a story (not saying it's not in Code Geass, I still have to watch what happens further), but shocking events that have no other purpose than drawing more attention, without fitting that well in the story are a real treason to the viewership IMO. In books and movies, this feeling can be even stronger since they're considered to be some forms of art.

It's not really treason when they make the type of shows they know people will buy. It's the same thing for pretty much every entertainment business. The series format is also especially prone to this since they have to make sure that the audience keeps coming back to watch the new episode every week.

But if you're a new anime watcher you don't have to worry yet. Because you still have many great works left to watch before you have to worry about the average quality of anime plots.
Emix_Squall
Profile Joined February 2012
France705 Posts
June 15 2012 17:30 GMT
#42457
On June 16 2012 02:12 Kupo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 01:55 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 16 2012 01:45 Sentenal wrote:
On June 16 2012 01:43 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 16 2012 01:33 Kupo wrote:
On June 15 2012 23:01 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:40 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:30 Emix_Squall wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:17 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:06 Emix_Squall wrote:
[quote]

Code Geass

I'm gonna watch the remaining episodes tonight coz now that I've seen that, I really want an ending to that shit, may it be could or bad at this point doesn't even matter to me any more. I just want to see things end. I could PM you my impressions (without spoiling of course) after if you're interested (since we got the same opinion of the show I thought you might ).

And I'm still wondering (if anyone got information on that plz share) if the end of the show was rushed. I can read on wikipedia that they initially wanted it to last 50 episodes but they only made 26.
But did they knew from the beginning they'd only have 26 episode (in which case they just did a story that could fit in 26 episode) or did they learn it when they were halfway through it, forcing them to wrap things up quickly (which IMO, would explain this tremendously violent turn of events)?

Code Geass is 50 episodes. Season 1 is 25 episodes, and then R2 is another 25 episodes. So you are at the half way point.

They changed writers and time-slot between Season 1 and R2, but was it rushed? Nah. But have fun with R2 if that upset you so much, lol. R2 makes it a point to try and go "WHAT A TWIST, I BET YOU DIDN'T EXPECT THAT" all the fucking time.


OHHH Thank you sir! I really thought R2 was just like what FMA Brotherhood is to FMA. Would have watched it anyway but I would have never expected it to be what happens next in the story.
Still I'm fine with the whole "getting my mind blown at the end of every episode" thing, but this was not only mind blowing, this was just wrong to me. You don't build up a character to be the most loveable thing in the show just to make him end like that. I'm saying that having in mind Japanese kids and especially little girls watching the show. Now I don't know much about their culture but I'm pretty sure in Japan just like anywhere else, if you build up a princess character that is all kindness and good-will, giving it such an atrocious end must have been really shocking for the kids (hell I'm 23 and I was shocked).

It's like having Cinderella butcher all the mices and the fairy because halfway through the night the magic went out, wouldn't it be a horrible thing to show to children?

Even though Geass is Shounen, the first season had a late-time timeslot IIRC. Anyway, Japan is alot more used to violence in Anime than the West. You have anime like Gundam SEED where they animate people getting microwaved and exploding from the inside out, you have older Gundam shows where they kill off most of the cast and have the good wins only win a pyrrhic victory. You have stuff like Macross where the entire planet is virtually destroyed.

edit: Yeah, Season 1 airred at like 1:30am.



Ok that makes more sense now, I guess it was never really designed for kids ....
Damm though, that means they never rushed anything and this was the original intent of the writer. What a twisted mind one must have to do that It's either that or thinking that such a shocking turn of events would draw more attention toward the show.
Anyway seems like I should prepare myself for a very unhappy ending than :s

The bold part is how they made the plot in Code Geass (especially in R2) and many other similar anime, and it's usually pretty successful.


Not being a native english speaker I didn't quite get that sentence Are you saying that many anime have similar stories (in the main story lines)?

He means that alot of other anime try to draw more attention towards the show with shocking events.


That's quite sad ... I'm fine with being shocked once in a while when it's well made or perfectly justified later on in a story (not saying it's not in Code Geass, I still have to watch what happens further), but shocking events that have no other purpose than drawing more attention, without fitting that well in the story are a real treason to the viewership IMO. In books and movies, this feeling can be even stronger since they're considered to be some forms of art.

It's not really treason when they make the type of shows they know people will buy. It's the same thing for pretty much every entertainment business. The series format is also especially prone to this since they have to make sure that the audience keeps coming back to watch the new episode every week.

But if you're a new anime watcher you don't have to worry yet. Because you still have many great works left to watch before you have to worry about the average quality of anime plots.


Thing is I'm not new to animes or shows ... I've seen dozens of great shows and animes that never really needed those super shocking, not well fitting, kind of events. That's why I'm so surprised and interested in getting other opinions about Code Geass. As I said before, this is the first time I had that feeling that things were going really wrong in a story, and that the events were not supposed to happen that way at all. Of course I'm probably wrong about this and things were supposed (in the author's plan) to happen like that but still, I'm having a hard time accepting it (and I really wanted that happy ending they seemed to be aiming toward ).
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10664 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 18:32:04
June 15 2012 18:09 GMT
#42458
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On June 15 2012 22:57 Ecael wrote:
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On June 15 2012 13:27 Ushio wrote:
Oh my god heavens feel route. I cant stop these man tears from flowing ( TДT)

Damn, they really got that nakige on point

My face when HF is nakige. Unless you mean tears of joy.

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On June 15 2012 16:30 Emnjay808 wrote:
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I wanted to download and play Soranica Ele, but there was no english patch that I could find. Does anyone know if there is a VN similar to it? And by "similar" I mean a recent VN with a similar plot and same looking girls. Im trying not to sound as shallow as possible, but ya, pretty much I just wanna play a game that has nice looking girls.

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[image loading]Too freaking kawaii, ugh.

If you just want good looking girls why not just download CG sets like Blast should? Not like you need the text.

Soranica was a fun game but you actually need to read it, in terms of just cute girls if that style is what you like search by artist and grab CG sets.

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On June 15 2012 16:47 Aerisky wrote:
On June 15 2012 16:33 Blasterion wrote:
On June 15 2012 16:30 Emnjay808 wrote:
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I wanted to download and play Soranica Ele, but there was no english patch that I could find. Does anyone know if there is a VN similar to it? And by "similar" I mean a recent VN with a similar plot and same looking girls. Im trying not to sound as shallow as possible, but ya, pretty much I just wanna play a game that has nice looking girls.

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[image loading]Too freaking kawaii, ugh.

Euphoria is an AMAZING game. It has cute girls.

Agreed, though the alternate ending to the OVAs was pretty screwed up, I assume it was one of the bad ends :S

You know that game is based around rape and not-so-normal sex right?

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On June 15 2012 21:55 Late wrote:
Silver Spoon:

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Only recently I found out about this new series created by the author of FMA Hiromu Arakawa. At first I thought it wouldn't be that good, but I was quickly proven wrong. The manga has this feeling of freshness I haven't felt in a long while and is a great change of pace from your typical high school dramas(despite the setting being an agricultural high school). The story flows nicely and is really informative on various agriculture related subjects. There are a lot of gags, great character designs(one of the teachers looks like Buddha, lol) and the art in general is great. And best of all - ARMSTRONG CAMEO, or rather - a PE teacher that looks like him. I would suggest it to anyone looking for a nice read.

She has done quite a good job w/ Silver Spoon, I am enjoying it a lot so far. Its been a while since I enjoyed a manga w/ this kind of theme, probably since Aria.


If I wanted just CGs then I would download them straight from a website rather than dig through them in a VN. I wanna be able to play the game and experience it. Ill try searching other VNs by the same author though (that are english patched).

On June 15 2012 23:28 Sentenal wrote:
I've been watching Fairy Tail, and have basically caught up to where the show is now. In some filler episodes right now. It is definitely not as good as One Piece, but I've still enjoyed it.


+ Show Spoiler [Fairy Tail animu spoilers] +
Can anyone tell me WHY Mashima thought it was a good idea to bring Lysanna back from the dead? When they had her in Edolas, I thought "huh, maybe they are gonna focus on Lysanna and have some drama and shit with that", but nope, only like 1 scene and then shes irrelevant for the rest of the arc. Okay, then afterwards she gets brought back with everyone. Okay, maybe now they are gonna do something with bringing her back! We get a scene with Mira and Elfman getting sad, but thats it. Now shes just... There. They haven't done anything with her. What was the point of bringing her back from the dead? Seems like they did it just cuz. She hasn't brought anything to the story at all, and just existed as an extra fighter on Tenroujima.

Another "major" thing they did for little reason was the Time Skip. WHY? What was the fucking point in having a Time Skip, but then have the entire cast that matters not actually be affected by it? Those side characters who aged are just that, almost irrelevant side characters. The Time Skip doesn't seem like it has brought anything to the anime. It almost feels like they did a Time Skip just because One Piece and most other like-Shounens do it.

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btw while this does seem like alot of complaining, don't mistake it for me not liking the show lol


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I was thinking the same things you were, bringing Lisanna back from the dead was the last thing I expected, but I still liked it very much (Im a huge NatsuXLisanna fan). As for her bringing in actual content, I dont think there was any room to do so, not in the moment at least (Edolas/Tenrou arc). She does bring lots of development to other characters like Elfman and Mirajane but not so much Natsu atm. I have faith that the author will do something good with her in the future. No way can they just keep using her for fanservice etc.

As for the time skip? I mean, what can you expect really. The anime is hitting such a high point with their latest arc, I just found it near impossible for the author to top it. So a time skip would just reset everything completely. Someone said before that it was a lazy way to reset the storyline, and I agree, but w/e.

The main thing that bugs me is the Wendy arc. I may be a little neurotic here, but remember that Speed guy? Grey discovered that his powers only slowed down his immediate surroundings. But when the boss dude (forgot his name) asked him to retrieve Jellal's tomb, he was all like "oh its gonna take me two hours, but ill do it" or some shit like that. Okay, so basically he was genuinely speedy just for that one request, but when fighting Grey, Grey reveals that he really isnt speedy but has the power to slow his surroundings. ok w/e lol. Finally got that off my chest.

Okay another thing with Gildarts. Was it intentional to hide him all along? Or did they really just introduce him last minute with the explanation that there are 10-year and 100-year S class jobs? I mean there was Cana with a dinking disorder, and it basically coincides well with the fact that she was waiting for Gildarts the entire time, or was it just a lucky coincidence that she was a drinking addict to add some variety to her character when arbitrary making members at the start of the anime?
Skol
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 18:21:09
June 15 2012 18:16 GMT
#42459
What's the point of wasting time reading and listening to gibberish? For all practical purposes your understanding of the game will be just CGs, why waste the time pretending you get anything out of something not in English.

The scenario writer hasn't done anything for light since soranica, the only other game from the guy is あるすまぐな.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
June 15 2012 18:19 GMT
#42460
On June 16 2012 03:16 Ecael wrote:
What's the point of wasting time reading and listening to gibberish? For all practical purposes your understanding of the game will be just CGs, why waste the time pretending you get anything out of something not in English.

but... but.... It gives me a false sense of achievement,
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