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On June 15 2012 03:00 Elem wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:59 Tabbris wrote:On June 15 2012 02:56 solidbebe wrote:On June 15 2012 02:44 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 02:00 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 01:53 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 01:08 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 00:13 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 00:10 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 00:08 Elem wrote:
[quote]That's like, your opinion dude.
Duh, it's an opinion. I'm free to express it. So you liked the endings of those animes? Stay classy. How can you hate on SUDDENTLY NAZI ZEPPELINS? Soul Eater was shit though, and I'm indifferent when it comes to Beelzebub. NAZI ZEPPELINS was the part where I stopped taking FMA's ending seriously. I guess it wasn't as bad as CONGRATULATIONS, but it was still shit. Brotherhood's ending was 100x better. Brotherhood's ending was a bit better. Shame the rest of the series sucks in comparison though. Though as I've said it's to be expected considering who made it. Also Echo, NAZI ZEPPELINS sounds better than ZEPPELINS, so deal with it. Zeppelins never bombed London. Period. It was retarded. Are you saying the rest of Brotherhood sucked compared to the first anime...? If you, u are craze I'm proudly crazy then lol. Imo original FMA is in my top 3 for sure while I'd be suprised if Brotherhood was in the top 50. wat? Those people cant be reasoned with. Its best to stand back and pretend you didn't read anything. ^^ I disagree with you, therefore I cannot be reasoned with and should be ignored. Nice logic you got there, if anything it implies that you are the one that cannot be reasoned with.
Hmmm typing things jokingly seems ineffective on the internet.
Sorry you were offended
I guess ill give my actual thought on first FMA. FMA had a great start, much better than Brotherhood. Then at around episode 30 with wraith it started going down hill. As a kid I still enjoyed it but rewatching it I found pretty lackluster. And the series goes completely down hill at 40+. Shit just didnt make sense anymore.
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On June 15 2012 02:44 Elem wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:00 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 01:53 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 01:08 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 00:13 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 00:10 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 00:08 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 00:06 Heh_ wrote:On June 14 2012 14:00 DarthXX wrote:On June 14 2012 04:59 Rebs wrote:
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Garbage ending. Okish otherwise. Lol Soul Eater, this pretty much sums up the show in a simple .gif + Show Spoiler + Most anime with a unique ending that's not in the manga turn out to be utter crap. A few examples I can think of: FMA original, Soul Eater, Beelzebub. Can't think of any with an awesome ending. That's like, your opinion dude. Duh, it's an opinion. I'm free to express it. So you liked the endings of those animes? Stay classy. How can you hate on SUDDENTLY NAZI ZEPPELINS? Soul Eater was shit though, and I'm indifferent when it comes to Beelzebub. NAZI ZEPPELINS was the part where I stopped taking FMA's ending seriously. I guess it wasn't as bad as CONGRATULATIONS, but it was still shit. Brotherhood's ending was 100x better. Brotherhood's ending was a bit better. Shame the rest of the series sucks in comparison though. Though as I've said it's to be expected considering who made it. Also Echo, NAZI ZEPPELINS sounds better than ZEPPELINS, so deal with it. Zeppelins never bombed London. Period. It was retarded. Are you saying the rest of Brotherhood sucked compared to the first anime...? If you, u are craze I'm proudly crazy then lol. Imo original FMA is in my top 3 for sure while I'd be suprised if Brotherhood was in the top 50.
Curious, if you agree Brotherhood's ending is better, but still liked the original more, why is that? Is it because the early episodes were done better? Did you not like the inclusion of Xing, or the stuff in the North? I really liked the original FMA too, at least until after their first encounter with Greed. After that I felt Brotherhood got alot better.
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On June 15 2012 03:07 Tabbris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 03:03 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:47 Tabbris wrote:On June 15 2012 02:02 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:00 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 01:53 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 01:08 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 00:13 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 00:10 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 00:08 Elem wrote:
[quote]That's like, your opinion dude.
Duh, it's an opinion. I'm free to express it. So you liked the endings of those animes? Stay classy. How can you hate on SUDDENTLY NAZI ZEPPELINS? Soul Eater was shit though, and I'm indifferent when it comes to Beelzebub. NAZI ZEPPELINS was the part where I stopped taking FMA's ending seriously. I guess it wasn't as bad as CONGRATULATIONS, but it was still shit. Brotherhood's ending was 100x better. Brotherhood's ending was a bit better. Shame the rest of the series sucks in comparison though. Though as I've said it's to be expected considering who made it. Also Echo, NAZI ZEPPELINS sounds better than ZEPPELINS, so deal with it. Zeppelins never bombed London. Period. It was retarded. Are you saying the rest of Brotherhood sucked compared to the first anime...? If you, u are craze They rushed through the first few episodes at blazing speed. I guess it would be better to slow down a bit. But the entire series was good. Only the first 13 episodes out of wut? 63? If they didnt speed through that shit it would be like 10 more episodes of shit that people already seen. Its a waste of production time. Everyone can agree that the first 13 episodes are the low point of the series but no one can really blame it for that I wouldn't mind re-watching it though. Would be a good refresher. I did the same with HxH. Technically they haven't shown any new content yet.... Extending the first part would also allow people new to the series to get a better understanding of it. True but you kinda have to see thier thoughts for viewers when it was airing. They were probably worried that alot of people would think its the same thing as last FMA and wouldn't bother watching. I do agree tho the series would of been alot better and more complete if the extended tho 13 episodes to like 20
Well HxH is pure recap. They haven't shown any new content yet (at least 50 more episodes before they reach that stage), and they've been pretty successful thus far.
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On June 15 2012 03:15 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 03:07 Tabbris wrote:On June 15 2012 03:03 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:47 Tabbris wrote:On June 15 2012 02:02 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:00 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 01:53 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 01:08 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 00:13 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 00:10 Heh_ wrote:
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Duh, it's an opinion. I'm free to express it. So you liked the endings of those animes? Stay classy. How can you hate on SUDDENTLY NAZI ZEPPELINS? Soul Eater was shit though, and I'm indifferent when it comes to Beelzebub. NAZI ZEPPELINS was the part where I stopped taking FMA's ending seriously. I guess it wasn't as bad as CONGRATULATIONS, but it was still shit. Brotherhood's ending was 100x better. Brotherhood's ending was a bit better. Shame the rest of the series sucks in comparison though. Though as I've said it's to be expected considering who made it. Also Echo, NAZI ZEPPELINS sounds better than ZEPPELINS, so deal with it. Zeppelins never bombed London. Period. It was retarded. Are you saying the rest of Brotherhood sucked compared to the first anime...? If you, u are craze They rushed through the first few episodes at blazing speed. I guess it would be better to slow down a bit. But the entire series was good. Only the first 13 episodes out of wut? 63? If they didnt speed through that shit it would be like 10 more episodes of shit that people already seen. Its a waste of production time. Everyone can agree that the first 13 episodes are the low point of the series but no one can really blame it for that I wouldn't mind re-watching it though. Would be a good refresher. I did the same with HxH. Technically they haven't shown any new content yet.... Extending the first part would also allow people new to the series to get a better understanding of it. True but you kinda have to see thier thoughts for viewers when it was airing. They were probably worried that alot of people would think its the same thing as last FMA and wouldn't bother watching. I do agree tho the series would of been alot better and more complete if the extended tho 13 episodes to like 20 Well HxH is pure recap. They haven't shown any new content yet (at least 50 more episodes before they reach that stage), and they've been pretty successful thus far.
There was nothing wrong with it, no one wants to go through the relative snorefest of the first 13 episodes of the original all over again just to get to the part where the story deviates which is what your watching it for in the first place. Otherwise whats the point ?
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On June 15 2012 03:13 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:44 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 02:00 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 01:53 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 01:08 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 00:13 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 00:10 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 00:08 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 00:06 Heh_ wrote:On June 14 2012 14:00 DarthXX wrote:[quote] Lol Soul Eater, this pretty much sums up the show in a simple .gif + Show Spoiler + Most anime with a unique ending that's not in the manga turn out to be utter crap. A few examples I can think of: FMA original, Soul Eater, Beelzebub. Can't think of any with an awesome ending. That's like, your opinion dude. Duh, it's an opinion. I'm free to express it. So you liked the endings of those animes? Stay classy. How can you hate on SUDDENTLY NAZI ZEPPELINS? Soul Eater was shit though, and I'm indifferent when it comes to Beelzebub. NAZI ZEPPELINS was the part where I stopped taking FMA's ending seriously. I guess it wasn't as bad as CONGRATULATIONS, but it was still shit. Brotherhood's ending was 100x better. Brotherhood's ending was a bit better. Shame the rest of the series sucks in comparison though. Though as I've said it's to be expected considering who made it. Also Echo, NAZI ZEPPELINS sounds better than ZEPPELINS, so deal with it. Zeppelins never bombed London. Period. It was retarded. Are you saying the rest of Brotherhood sucked compared to the first anime...? If you, u are craze I'm proudly crazy then lol. Imo original FMA is in my top 3 for sure while I'd be suprised if Brotherhood was in the top 50. Curious, if you agree Brotherhood's ending is better, but still liked the original more, why is that? Is it because the early episodes were done better? Did you not like the inclusion of Xing, or the stuff in the North? I really liked the original FMA too, at least until after their first encounter with Greed. After that I felt Brotherhood got alot better. The "new" or manga plot wasn't bad in that sense. It was interesting enough to keep me watching, but I prefered everything up until the last...5-6 episodes? in original.
The big thing though like I said last time this discussion came up though is that Brotherhood absolutely wrecks most of the characters in favour of a less dark and more hm...lighthearted theme? Original had some lighthearted characters which were nice to not get everything all too hurrdurr real dark in here (like Armstrong) but I feel that in Brotherhood it all spread out to other characters (old and new) which really ruined my experience. It got really hard to take seriously. Also, every Original vs Brotherhood discussion until I die: + Show Spoiler +HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHES. HOW COULD THEY DO THAT?!
And yes, the removal of the first episodes REALLY hurt the series imo, they were among my favourites even. If I hadn't already watched original FMA I'd be even more angry to be honest. You get no real introduction to it all and it almost seems to expect that you have watched the original before which is absolutely dumb if you're doing a remake.
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On June 15 2012 03:15 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 03:07 Tabbris wrote:On June 15 2012 03:03 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:47 Tabbris wrote:On June 15 2012 02:02 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:00 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 01:53 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 01:08 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 00:13 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 00:10 Heh_ wrote:
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Duh, it's an opinion. I'm free to express it. So you liked the endings of those animes? Stay classy. How can you hate on SUDDENTLY NAZI ZEPPELINS? Soul Eater was shit though, and I'm indifferent when it comes to Beelzebub. NAZI ZEPPELINS was the part where I stopped taking FMA's ending seriously. I guess it wasn't as bad as CONGRATULATIONS, but it was still shit. Brotherhood's ending was 100x better. Brotherhood's ending was a bit better. Shame the rest of the series sucks in comparison though. Though as I've said it's to be expected considering who made it. Also Echo, NAZI ZEPPELINS sounds better than ZEPPELINS, so deal with it. Zeppelins never bombed London. Period. It was retarded. Are you saying the rest of Brotherhood sucked compared to the first anime...? If you, u are craze They rushed through the first few episodes at blazing speed. I guess it would be better to slow down a bit. But the entire series was good. Only the first 13 episodes out of wut? 63? If they didnt speed through that shit it would be like 10 more episodes of shit that people already seen. Its a waste of production time. Everyone can agree that the first 13 episodes are the low point of the series but no one can really blame it for that I wouldn't mind re-watching it though. Would be a good refresher. I did the same with HxH. Technically they haven't shown any new content yet.... Extending the first part would also allow people new to the series to get a better understanding of it. True but you kinda have to see thier thoughts for viewers when it was airing. They were probably worried that alot of people would think its the same thing as last FMA and wouldn't bother watching. I do agree tho the series would of been alot better and more complete if the extended tho 13 episodes to like 20 Well HxH is pure recap. They haven't shown any new content yet (at least 50 more episodes before they reach that stage), and they've been pretty successful thus far.
Also take in consideration production values. Like I said I agree with you. I think they should of done it like a recap ^^.
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On June 15 2012 03:15 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 03:07 Tabbris wrote:On June 15 2012 03:03 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:47 Tabbris wrote:On June 15 2012 02:02 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:00 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 01:53 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 01:08 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 00:13 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 00:10 Heh_ wrote:
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Duh, it's an opinion. I'm free to express it. So you liked the endings of those animes? Stay classy. How can you hate on SUDDENTLY NAZI ZEPPELINS? Soul Eater was shit though, and I'm indifferent when it comes to Beelzebub. NAZI ZEPPELINS was the part where I stopped taking FMA's ending seriously. I guess it wasn't as bad as CONGRATULATIONS, but it was still shit. Brotherhood's ending was 100x better. Brotherhood's ending was a bit better. Shame the rest of the series sucks in comparison though. Though as I've said it's to be expected considering who made it. Also Echo, NAZI ZEPPELINS sounds better than ZEPPELINS, so deal with it. Zeppelins never bombed London. Period. It was retarded. Are you saying the rest of Brotherhood sucked compared to the first anime...? If you, u are craze They rushed through the first few episodes at blazing speed. I guess it would be better to slow down a bit. But the entire series was good. Only the first 13 episodes out of wut? 63? If they didnt speed through that shit it would be like 10 more episodes of shit that people already seen. Its a waste of production time. Everyone can agree that the first 13 episodes are the low point of the series but no one can really blame it for that I wouldn't mind re-watching it though. Would be a good refresher. I did the same with HxH. Technically they haven't shown any new content yet.... Extending the first part would also allow people new to the series to get a better understanding of it. True but you kinda have to see thier thoughts for viewers when it was airing. They were probably worried that alot of people would think its the same thing as last FMA and wouldn't bother watching. I do agree tho the series would of been alot better and more complete if the extended tho 13 episodes to like 20 Well HxH is pure recap. They haven't shown any new content yet (at least 50 more episodes before they reach that stage), and they've been pretty successful thus far.
You have to take into account the difference in audience though. HxH is being reanimated for the sake of a remake and is aimed at people who have not seen the original. There is no confirmation the chimera arc will even be animated. FMA was remade for the sake of the fans who wanted the manga to be animated. Brotherhood was made with the expectation that everyone had already seen the original and did not want to sit through a ton of material they had already seen. However, at the same time, they wanted to make it a standalone anime that followed the manga pretty much perfectly which is why it was not done as a short recap. They succeeded in what they aimed to do, at the very least.
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On June 15 2012 03:32 Elem wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 03:13 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 02:44 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 02:00 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 01:53 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 01:08 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 00:13 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 00:10 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 00:08 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 00:06 Heh_ wrote:
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Most anime with a unique ending that's not in the manga turn out to be utter crap. A few examples I can think of: FMA original, Soul Eater, Beelzebub. Can't think of any with an awesome ending. That's like, your opinion dude. Duh, it's an opinion. I'm free to express it. So you liked the endings of those animes? Stay classy. How can you hate on SUDDENTLY NAZI ZEPPELINS? Soul Eater was shit though, and I'm indifferent when it comes to Beelzebub. NAZI ZEPPELINS was the part where I stopped taking FMA's ending seriously. I guess it wasn't as bad as CONGRATULATIONS, but it was still shit. Brotherhood's ending was 100x better. Brotherhood's ending was a bit better. Shame the rest of the series sucks in comparison though. Though as I've said it's to be expected considering who made it. Also Echo, NAZI ZEPPELINS sounds better than ZEPPELINS, so deal with it. Zeppelins never bombed London. Period. It was retarded. Are you saying the rest of Brotherhood sucked compared to the first anime...? If you, u are craze I'm proudly crazy then lol. Imo original FMA is in my top 3 for sure while I'd be suprised if Brotherhood was in the top 50. Curious, if you agree Brotherhood's ending is better, but still liked the original more, why is that? Is it because the early episodes were done better? Did you not like the inclusion of Xing, or the stuff in the North? I really liked the original FMA too, at least until after their first encounter with Greed. After that I felt Brotherhood got alot better. The "new" or manga plot wasn't bad in that sense. It was interesting enough to keep me watching, but I prefered everything up until the last...5-6 episodes? in original. The big thing though like I said last time this discussion came up though is that Brotherhood absolutely wrecks most of the characters in favour of a less dark and more hm...lighthearted theme? Original had some lighthearted characters which were nice to not get everything all too hurrdurr real dark in here (like Armstrong) but I feel that in Brotherhood it all spread out to other characters (old and new) which really ruined my experience. It got really hard to take seriously. Also, every Original vs Brotherhood discussion until I die: + Show Spoiler +HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHES. HOW COULD THEY DO THAT?! And yes, the removal of the first episodes REALLY hurt the series imo, they were among my favourites even. If I hadn't already watched original FMA I'd be even more angry to be honest. You get no real introduction to it all and it almost seems to expect that you have watched the original before which is absolutely dumb if you're doing a remake.
They had more gag moments, thats true. But I don't think it turned lighthearted, either. Maybe "more" lighthearted, but still serious enough. Like for example, Mustang's group did get alot more jokes, and I guess you can see that as making them "worse". But they also included many new characters at Briggs, and every one of them was a badass. Then they gave Mustang two really great scenes, while he was practically worthless in the original.
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On June 15 2012 03:55 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 03:32 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 03:13 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 02:44 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 02:00 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 01:53 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 01:08 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 00:13 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 00:10 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 00:08 Elem wrote:
[quote]That's like, your opinion dude.
Duh, it's an opinion. I'm free to express it. So you liked the endings of those animes? Stay classy. How can you hate on SUDDENTLY NAZI ZEPPELINS? Soul Eater was shit though, and I'm indifferent when it comes to Beelzebub. NAZI ZEPPELINS was the part where I stopped taking FMA's ending seriously. I guess it wasn't as bad as CONGRATULATIONS, but it was still shit. Brotherhood's ending was 100x better. Brotherhood's ending was a bit better. Shame the rest of the series sucks in comparison though. Though as I've said it's to be expected considering who made it. Also Echo, NAZI ZEPPELINS sounds better than ZEPPELINS, so deal with it. Zeppelins never bombed London. Period. It was retarded. Are you saying the rest of Brotherhood sucked compared to the first anime...? If you, u are craze I'm proudly crazy then lol. Imo original FMA is in my top 3 for sure while I'd be suprised if Brotherhood was in the top 50. Curious, if you agree Brotherhood's ending is better, but still liked the original more, why is that? Is it because the early episodes were done better? Did you not like the inclusion of Xing, or the stuff in the North? I really liked the original FMA too, at least until after their first encounter with Greed. After that I felt Brotherhood got alot better. The "new" or manga plot wasn't bad in that sense. It was interesting enough to keep me watching, but I prefered everything up until the last...5-6 episodes? in original. The big thing though like I said last time this discussion came up though is that Brotherhood absolutely wrecks most of the characters in favour of a less dark and more hm...lighthearted theme? Original had some lighthearted characters which were nice to not get everything all too hurrdurr real dark in here (like Armstrong) but I feel that in Brotherhood it all spread out to other characters (old and new) which really ruined my experience. It got really hard to take seriously. Also, every Original vs Brotherhood discussion until I die: + Show Spoiler +HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHES. HOW COULD THEY DO THAT?! And yes, the removal of the first episodes REALLY hurt the series imo, they were among my favourites even. If I hadn't already watched original FMA I'd be even more angry to be honest. You get no real introduction to it all and it almost seems to expect that you have watched the original before which is absolutely dumb if you're doing a remake. They had more gag moments, thats true. But I don't think it turned lighthearted, either. Maybe "more" lighthearted, but still serious enough. Like for example, Mustang's group did get alot more jokes, and I guess you can see that as making them "worse". But they also included many new characters at Briggs, and every one of them was a badass. Then they gave Mustang two really great scenes, while he was practically worthless in the original.
I also didn't like the way the homunculus were weak to their own body parts. Made for really stupid deaths. And Sloth (female vers) got transmuted into ethanol (won't argue about the science of this part, too much wrong) because of wordplay? That's pretty fail.
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On June 15 2012 03:55 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 03:32 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 03:13 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 02:44 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 02:00 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 01:53 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 01:08 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 00:13 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 00:10 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 00:08 Elem wrote:
[quote]That's like, your opinion dude.
Duh, it's an opinion. I'm free to express it. So you liked the endings of those animes? Stay classy. How can you hate on SUDDENTLY NAZI ZEPPELINS? Soul Eater was shit though, and I'm indifferent when it comes to Beelzebub. NAZI ZEPPELINS was the part where I stopped taking FMA's ending seriously. I guess it wasn't as bad as CONGRATULATIONS, but it was still shit. Brotherhood's ending was 100x better. Brotherhood's ending was a bit better. Shame the rest of the series sucks in comparison though. Though as I've said it's to be expected considering who made it. Also Echo, NAZI ZEPPELINS sounds better than ZEPPELINS, so deal with it. Zeppelins never bombed London. Period. It was retarded. Are you saying the rest of Brotherhood sucked compared to the first anime...? If you, u are craze I'm proudly crazy then lol. Imo original FMA is in my top 3 for sure while I'd be suprised if Brotherhood was in the top 50. Curious, if you agree Brotherhood's ending is better, but still liked the original more, why is that? Is it because the early episodes were done better? Did you not like the inclusion of Xing, or the stuff in the North? I really liked the original FMA too, at least until after their first encounter with Greed. After that I felt Brotherhood got alot better. The "new" or manga plot wasn't bad in that sense. It was interesting enough to keep me watching, but I prefered everything up until the last...5-6 episodes? in original. The big thing though like I said last time this discussion came up though is that Brotherhood absolutely wrecks most of the characters in favour of a less dark and more hm...lighthearted theme? Original had some lighthearted characters which were nice to not get everything all too hurrdurr real dark in here (like Armstrong) but I feel that in Brotherhood it all spread out to other characters (old and new) which really ruined my experience. It got really hard to take seriously. Also, every Original vs Brotherhood discussion until I die: + Show Spoiler +HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHES. HOW COULD THEY DO THAT?! And yes, the removal of the first episodes REALLY hurt the series imo, they were among my favourites even. If I hadn't already watched original FMA I'd be even more angry to be honest. You get no real introduction to it all and it almost seems to expect that you have watched the original before which is absolutely dumb if you're doing a remake. They had more gag moments, thats true. But I don't think it turned lighthearted, either. Maybe "more" lighthearted, but still serious enough. Like for example, Mustang's group did get alot more jokes, and I guess you can see that as making them "worse". But they also included many new characters at Briggs, and every one of them was a badass. Then they gave Mustang two really great scenes, while he was practically worthless in the original.
Think hes talking about charaters like Izumi and Lust. Thereis a pretty big diffrence between the their counterparts. Less sad in brotherhood 
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On June 15 2012 04:22 Tabbris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 03:55 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 03:32 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 03:13 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 02:44 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 02:00 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 01:53 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 01:08 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 00:13 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 00:10 Heh_ wrote:
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Duh, it's an opinion. I'm free to express it. So you liked the endings of those animes? Stay classy. How can you hate on SUDDENTLY NAZI ZEPPELINS? Soul Eater was shit though, and I'm indifferent when it comes to Beelzebub. NAZI ZEPPELINS was the part where I stopped taking FMA's ending seriously. I guess it wasn't as bad as CONGRATULATIONS, but it was still shit. Brotherhood's ending was 100x better. Brotherhood's ending was a bit better. Shame the rest of the series sucks in comparison though. Though as I've said it's to be expected considering who made it. Also Echo, NAZI ZEPPELINS sounds better than ZEPPELINS, so deal with it. Zeppelins never bombed London. Period. It was retarded. Are you saying the rest of Brotherhood sucked compared to the first anime...? If you, u are craze I'm proudly crazy then lol. Imo original FMA is in my top 3 for sure while I'd be suprised if Brotherhood was in the top 50. Curious, if you agree Brotherhood's ending is better, but still liked the original more, why is that? Is it because the early episodes were done better? Did you not like the inclusion of Xing, or the stuff in the North? I really liked the original FMA too, at least until after their first encounter with Greed. After that I felt Brotherhood got alot better. The "new" or manga plot wasn't bad in that sense. It was interesting enough to keep me watching, but I prefered everything up until the last...5-6 episodes? in original. The big thing though like I said last time this discussion came up though is that Brotherhood absolutely wrecks most of the characters in favour of a less dark and more hm...lighthearted theme? Original had some lighthearted characters which were nice to not get everything all too hurrdurr real dark in here (like Armstrong) but I feel that in Brotherhood it all spread out to other characters (old and new) which really ruined my experience. It got really hard to take seriously. Also, every Original vs Brotherhood discussion until I die: + Show Spoiler +HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHES. HOW COULD THEY DO THAT?! And yes, the removal of the first episodes REALLY hurt the series imo, they were among my favourites even. If I hadn't already watched original FMA I'd be even more angry to be honest. You get no real introduction to it all and it almost seems to expect that you have watched the original before which is absolutely dumb if you're doing a remake. They had more gag moments, thats true. But I don't think it turned lighthearted, either. Maybe "more" lighthearted, but still serious enough. Like for example, Mustang's group did get alot more jokes, and I guess you can see that as making them "worse". But they also included many new characters at Briggs, and every one of them was a badass. Then they gave Mustang two really great scenes, while he was practically worthless in the original. Think hes talking about charaters like Izumi and Lust. Thereis a pretty big diffrence between the two.
You mean like how shes actually useful in Brotherhood ? And gets her ass handed to her in the original ?
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Mustang being such an insane badass in Brotherhood when+ Show Spoiler + god I loved that scene, I don't think he actually did anything in the original.
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On June 15 2012 03:32 Elem wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 03:13 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 02:44 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 02:00 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 01:53 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 01:08 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 00:13 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 00:10 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 00:08 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 00:06 Heh_ wrote:
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Most anime with a unique ending that's not in the manga turn out to be utter crap. A few examples I can think of: FMA original, Soul Eater, Beelzebub. Can't think of any with an awesome ending. That's like, your opinion dude. Duh, it's an opinion. I'm free to express it. So you liked the endings of those animes? Stay classy. How can you hate on SUDDENTLY NAZI ZEPPELINS? Soul Eater was shit though, and I'm indifferent when it comes to Beelzebub. NAZI ZEPPELINS was the part where I stopped taking FMA's ending seriously. I guess it wasn't as bad as CONGRATULATIONS, but it was still shit. Brotherhood's ending was 100x better. Brotherhood's ending was a bit better. Shame the rest of the series sucks in comparison though. Though as I've said it's to be expected considering who made it. Also Echo, NAZI ZEPPELINS sounds better than ZEPPELINS, so deal with it. Zeppelins never bombed London. Period. It was retarded. Are you saying the rest of Brotherhood sucked compared to the first anime...? If you, u are craze I'm proudly crazy then lol. Imo original FMA is in my top 3 for sure while I'd be suprised if Brotherhood was in the top 50. Curious, if you agree Brotherhood's ending is better, but still liked the original more, why is that? Is it because the early episodes were done better? Did you not like the inclusion of Xing, or the stuff in the North? I really liked the original FMA too, at least until after their first encounter with Greed. After that I felt Brotherhood got alot better. The "new" or manga plot wasn't bad in that sense. It was interesting enough to keep me watching, but I prefered everything up until the last...5-6 episodes? in original. The big thing though like I said last time this discussion came up though is that Brotherhood absolutely wrecks most of the characters in favour of a less dark and more hm...lighthearted theme? Original had some lighthearted characters which were nice to not get everything all too hurrdurr real dark in here (like Armstrong) but I feel that in Brotherhood it all spread out to other characters (old and new) which really ruined my experience. It got really hard to take seriously. Also, every Original vs Brotherhood discussion until I die: + Show Spoiler +HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHES. HOW COULD THEY DO THAT?! And yes, the removal of the first episodes REALLY hurt the series imo, they were among my favourites even. If I hadn't already watched original FMA I'd be even more angry to be honest. You get no real introduction to it all and it almost seems to expect that you have watched the original before which is absolutely dumb if you're doing a remake.
I agree that the original anime had a bit of a darker tone, but that's just how they ran with it when it split off. Brotherhood goes straight off the manga, which, while very different from most shounens in a lot of ways, is still a shounen at it's core, so it feels in a sense more lighthearted in the designs and some of the gags, which disappeared in the original after a while.
I love both, though I doubt I'd be as big of a fan of Brotherhood if I didn't love the manga so much (was one of the first I actually bought), so I'm sure it differs person to person. There were scenes that were great in both, though Brotherhood will always hold a special place in my heart for the scenes where + Show Spoiler +Mustang goes nuts on Lust and Envy
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On June 15 2012 04:36 solidbebe wrote:Mustang being such an insane badass in Brotherhood when + Show Spoiler + god I loved that scene, I don't think he actually did anything in the original.
It was clearly shown that he was the deadliest alchemist. In the original he really didn't do shit at all except kill pride, And even that was luck
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On June 15 2012 04:30 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 04:22 Tabbris wrote:On June 15 2012 03:55 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 03:32 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 03:13 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 02:44 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 02:00 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 01:53 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 01:08 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 00:13 Elem wrote:
[quote]How can you hate on SUDDENTLY NAZI ZEPPELINS?
Soul Eater was shit though, and I'm indifferent when it comes to Beelzebub.
NAZI ZEPPELINS was the part where I stopped taking FMA's ending seriously. I guess it wasn't as bad as CONGRATULATIONS, but it was still shit. Brotherhood's ending was 100x better. Brotherhood's ending was a bit better. Shame the rest of the series sucks in comparison though. Though as I've said it's to be expected considering who made it. Also Echo, NAZI ZEPPELINS sounds better than ZEPPELINS, so deal with it. Zeppelins never bombed London. Period. It was retarded. Are you saying the rest of Brotherhood sucked compared to the first anime...? If you, u are craze I'm proudly crazy then lol. Imo original FMA is in my top 3 for sure while I'd be suprised if Brotherhood was in the top 50. Curious, if you agree Brotherhood's ending is better, but still liked the original more, why is that? Is it because the early episodes were done better? Did you not like the inclusion of Xing, or the stuff in the North? I really liked the original FMA too, at least until after their first encounter with Greed. After that I felt Brotherhood got alot better. The "new" or manga plot wasn't bad in that sense. It was interesting enough to keep me watching, but I prefered everything up until the last...5-6 episodes? in original. The big thing though like I said last time this discussion came up though is that Brotherhood absolutely wrecks most of the characters in favour of a less dark and more hm...lighthearted theme? Original had some lighthearted characters which were nice to not get everything all too hurrdurr real dark in here (like Armstrong) but I feel that in Brotherhood it all spread out to other characters (old and new) which really ruined my experience. It got really hard to take seriously. Also, every Original vs Brotherhood discussion until I die: + Show Spoiler +HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHES. HOW COULD THEY DO THAT?! And yes, the removal of the first episodes REALLY hurt the series imo, they were among my favourites even. If I hadn't already watched original FMA I'd be even more angry to be honest. You get no real introduction to it all and it almost seems to expect that you have watched the original before which is absolutely dumb if you're doing a remake. They had more gag moments, thats true. But I don't think it turned lighthearted, either. Maybe "more" lighthearted, but still serious enough. Like for example, Mustang's group did get alot more jokes, and I guess you can see that as making them "worse". But they also included many new characters at Briggs, and every one of them was a badass. Then they gave Mustang two really great scenes, while he was practically worthless in the original. Think hes talking about charaters like Izumi and Lust. Thereis a pretty big diffrence between the two. You mean like how shes actually useful in Brotherhood ? And gets her ass handed to her in the original ?
Most people in the original where too down in their own grief to do much of anything. ^^
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On June 15 2012 04:39 Tabbris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 04:36 solidbebe wrote:Mustang being such an insane badass in Brotherhood when + Show Spoiler + god I loved that scene, I don't think he actually did anything in the original. It was clearly shown that he was the deadliest alchemist. In the original i really didn't do shit at all except kill pride, And even that was luck
The original never really portrayed him as a soldier, so he never really got any action sequences aside from a couple. In Brotherhood, that was a huuuuge part of his story as a character, especially if you paid attention to his background and his association with Riza's father, that he is designed to be the most brutal alchemist and soldier, and he's working to make a world where that's not necessary, even going so far as to burn his alchemy off of her back.
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On June 15 2012 04:41 Tabbris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 04:30 Rebs wrote:On June 15 2012 04:22 Tabbris wrote:On June 15 2012 03:55 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 03:32 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 03:13 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 02:44 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 02:00 Sentenal wrote:On June 15 2012 01:53 Elem wrote:On June 15 2012 01:08 Sentenal wrote:
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NAZI ZEPPELINS was the part where I stopped taking FMA's ending seriously. I guess it wasn't as bad as CONGRATULATIONS, but it was still shit. Brotherhood's ending was 100x better. Brotherhood's ending was a bit better. Shame the rest of the series sucks in comparison though. Though as I've said it's to be expected considering who made it. Also Echo, NAZI ZEPPELINS sounds better than ZEPPELINS, so deal with it. Zeppelins never bombed London. Period. It was retarded. Are you saying the rest of Brotherhood sucked compared to the first anime...? If you, u are craze I'm proudly crazy then lol. Imo original FMA is in my top 3 for sure while I'd be suprised if Brotherhood was in the top 50. Curious, if you agree Brotherhood's ending is better, but still liked the original more, why is that? Is it because the early episodes were done better? Did you not like the inclusion of Xing, or the stuff in the North? I really liked the original FMA too, at least until after their first encounter with Greed. After that I felt Brotherhood got alot better. The "new" or manga plot wasn't bad in that sense. It was interesting enough to keep me watching, but I prefered everything up until the last...5-6 episodes? in original. The big thing though like I said last time this discussion came up though is that Brotherhood absolutely wrecks most of the characters in favour of a less dark and more hm...lighthearted theme? Original had some lighthearted characters which were nice to not get everything all too hurrdurr real dark in here (like Armstrong) but I feel that in Brotherhood it all spread out to other characters (old and new) which really ruined my experience. It got really hard to take seriously. Also, every Original vs Brotherhood discussion until I die: + Show Spoiler +HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHES. HOW COULD THEY DO THAT?! And yes, the removal of the first episodes REALLY hurt the series imo, they were among my favourites even. If I hadn't already watched original FMA I'd be even more angry to be honest. You get no real introduction to it all and it almost seems to expect that you have watched the original before which is absolutely dumb if you're doing a remake. They had more gag moments, thats true. But I don't think it turned lighthearted, either. Maybe "more" lighthearted, but still serious enough. Like for example, Mustang's group did get alot more jokes, and I guess you can see that as making them "worse". But they also included many new characters at Briggs, and every one of them was a badass. Then they gave Mustang two really great scenes, while he was practically worthless in the original. Think hes talking about charaters like Izumi and Lust. Thereis a pretty big diffrence between the two. You mean like how shes actually useful in Brotherhood ? And gets her ass handed to her in the original ? Most people in the original where too down in their own grief to do much of anything. ^^
yes it truly was a fascinating "Grimdark" experience.
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Votoms Finder Armored Trooperoid:
If you go into this anime with low expectations and an open-mind then youll enjoy it (the way I did at least). They give you a setting with little to no explanation. Even then, the first half of the movie was decent, makes you think "I wonder where theyll go with this". Then you're like, "well this is just predictable, why would they do this". Then youre like "okay wow lol, this is actually hilarious, its like a parody of almost every action/mech film I could think of". At this point im thinking, "no way it can get better than this". But oh man, it does get better lol.
7/10 for hilarity.
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On June 12 2012 13:02 Blasterion wrote:Minamoto Monogatari 35 + Show Spoiler +9 pages means no real developement -.-" hoping next chapter they will actually do something.
+ Show Spoiler +fuck man.. i hate this manga so much because its so good but 9 chapters a week is so bad
fuck this
fuck fuck fuck
like.. nothing happened.. just some minor development.. in real time it would take like 15 seconds
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Sharin Fandisc:
Just finished Masaomi chapter. Wow good stuff. Masaomi and Saburou both awesome. Really enjoyed the backstory (and baby Ken!). Also, not at all surprised but happy to see Ken x + Show Spoiler + confirmed as canon.
Just one chapter left now (Eri), probably will be pretty short considering it only has 6 windows in the CG section.
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