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ishyishy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
May 02 2012 22:19 GMT
#41041
Hello,

this is a ridiculously large thread

I am a quickly growing anime fan, and my collection is reflective of that for sure. I'd just like to say a couple things about the ones I just recently watched(no spoilers at all, just my quick and simple thoughts):

Trigun: Badlands Rumble
This is the trigun movie, for those that are unaware. Fairly recent release in blu-ray, I think. I bought mine from amazon, and it recently got released there. I am a trigun fan, and I liked this movie a lot. It didnt blow me away, but i was glad that I bought it, i enjoyed it, and I am definitely happy about it. Very well done in all aspects. Blu ray looks good too.

Heaven's Lost Property
Very goofy, very 'juvenile', very very funny show. I loved this show. The animation styles they used took a little getting used to, but when I stopped worrying about that so much and started enjoying the show, I adapted to it and really enjoyed what I was watching. Amazon has it on blu ray, and it says "complete series" but be warned it is not the complete series, the one that says that is only season 1. There is a second season called "Forte" that I never knew about until I googled some stuff on this show. I have it in the mail as I type this, and apparently there is also a movie, but that isnt dubbed yet. You can bet I'll be pre-ordering it when it does.

Infinite Stratos
Some people were saying how this is a very stereotypical modern day anime; it's high school kids that pilot these battle suits. However, I really enjoyed this show and I am very happy that I bought it on blu-ray. Very well done animation, that was one of my favorite aspects of this show; the animation was amazing, especially on blu ray. It is a short series, so it isnt long enough to become 'repetitive' or 'old' because of it's nature. They did a very good job on this show.

Thanks :D
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 22:45:28
May 02 2012 22:21 GMT
#41042
On May 03 2012 07:19 ishyishy wrote:
Hello,

this is a ridiculously large thread

I am a quickly growing anime fan, and my collection is reflective of that for sure. I'd just like to say a couple things about the ones I just recently watched(no spoilers at all, just my quick and simple thoughts):

Trigun: Badlands Rumble
This is the trigun movie, for those that are unaware. Fairly recent release in blu-ray, I think. I bought mine from amazon, and it recently got released there. I am a trigun fan, and I liked this movie a lot. It didnt blow me away, but i was glad that I bought it, i enjoyed it, and I am definitely happy about it. Very well done in all aspects. Blu ray looks good too.

Heaven's Lost Property
Very goofy, very 'juvenile', very very funny show. I loved this show. The animation styles they used took a little getting used to, but when I stopped worrying about that so much and started enjoying the show, I adapted to it and really enjoyed what I was watching. Amazon has it on blu ray, and it says "complete series" but be warned it is not the complete series, the one that says that is only season 1. There is a second season called "Forte" that I never knew about until I googled some stuff on this show. I have it in the mail as I type this, and apparently there is also a movie, but that isnt dubbed yet. You can bet I'll be pre-ordering it when it does.

Infinite Stratos
Some people were saying how this is a very stereotypical modern day anime; it's high school kids that pilot these battle suits. However, I really enjoyed this show and I am very happy that I bought it on blu-ray. Very well done animation, that was one of my favorite aspects of this show; the animation was amazing, especially on blu ray. It is a short series, so it isnt long enough to become 'repetitive' or 'old' because of it's nature. They did a very good job on this show.

Thanks :D


I have a question, when do you decide you want to buy an anime? Do you check out some episodes before deciding? Do you buy it after you've watched it all and think that the creators deserve your money? Do you just buy things that look appealing? Cos anime tends to be very expensive.

On May 03 2012 05:40 Heh_ wrote:
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On May 03 2012 05:33 Emnjay808 wrote:
On May 03 2012 02:27 solidbebe wrote:
Maria Holic, what the FUCK did i just watch?

+ Show Spoiler +
Lesbo girl goes to all girl catholic school to pick up hot chicks. Falls in love with first girl she sees who turns out to be some fucked up cross dressing dude.


Dammit you spoiled it for me.

Nevertheless Im still gonna add this to my "to watch" list. ^_^

Back then I thought it was about vampires and schools. Idk why, just did.

Season 1 was ok, season 2 is pretty bad. Just pretend the second season never happened.


+ Show Spoiler +
Why did the hot chick have to be a dude WHYYYYY???
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
May 02 2012 22:29 GMT
#41043
On May 03 2012 06:53 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 05:42 Latham wrote:
CLAYMORE #126 + Show Spoiler +
Am I reading this right? Claymore is over? like finally finished over? What happened to Pruscilla and Claire? Why let that new abysmal one walk away freely? What happens with the boy/guy and the 2 men (scientist and recruiter)? WTF I AM SO CONFUSE.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yes what the fuck. Did it get axed because its popularity was dropping? I admit, I started to grow bored with the plot. Super strong unstoppable rebels? Just resurrect a few abyssal ones!

There's so many things left hanging (like Rimuto's head lololol), they better have a sequel or something similar.


I dont think its over, just seems like a pivotal point in the series.

Its been dragging along with stuff I dont care about for a while nowa super long uninteresting battle with some thick ass plot armour, (but I guess you can get away with that when everyone can just put their limbs back together). Im hoping it moves to stuff that actually matters now. Otherwise its probably the biggest copout Ive experienced and would take some beating.
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 23:04:10
May 02 2012 22:53 GMT
#41044
Woah, I don't want to get into a big argument but comparing CG to Dune?

they're both relatives to the ruling emperor

Paul is the grandson of the Baron but only through the manipulation of the Bene Gesserit. In terms of inheritance or any familial significance like in CG, there isn't really any. It only makes for good irony (Alia's "sorry, grandfather" was hilarious as she poisons him to death. Gom Jabber still scares me) and adds to the depth of the Bene Gesserit influence. Furthermore, the Baron is but a figurehead in the grand scheme of things. His greed and hate of the Atreides was taken advantage of. Granted, he is still the leader of one of the great houses, but he is far from the enemy of Padinshah Emperor who instigated the betrayal of House Atreides. I recall there is a bloodline relation between the Padinshah Emperor and the great houses, and if that's what you're referring to then that's even less significant than being the grandson the Baron.

they both have above normal powers

Sure, like in almost any shounen?

they gather their own armies

okay, I can see this as a reasonable comparison. However, the premise, circumstances, reasoning, etc. are all so different. Lelouch is just manipulating everyone as a necessary means to achieve his own goal. Once he gains power, he plans out how to use it to get his revenge. Paul is thrown into the situation completely against his will and has trouble even accepting himself. The Fremen would've killed him if not for the prophecy, which further shows the influence of the Bene Gesserit in the Dune universe, and because of this, they follow him. He does not really gather an army - he accepts his position as that of a god among them, even if he remains disgusted at this thought. Yes, he uses this army as a necessary means to overthrow a ruler just like in CG, but you forget the Fremen are all freaking OP compared to the laughable Harkonnen soldiers ruled by a fat pig who ignores the huge threat of the Fremen. In all honesty, they probably didn't need Paul to eventually wreck havoc but this circles back to the religious aspect of their culture and following Paul.

CG story seems very similar to the Dune story of Paul

except for the part where CG story is incredibly simple, which inherently isn't a bad thing given the medium. What makes it complex is the strategies and keikaku that goes on. The entire universe of Dune is a complex web of political, religious, and social issues that are centered on the spice planet of Dune. It is a story of the accumulation of hundreds of thousands of years of planning gone wrong at the whim of a single woman and how Paul accepts the consequences of his mother and chooses to change the course of time that the Bene Gesserit had been controlling until this point. Not only does he halt their plan for several thousands of years, but his actions cause a permanent fear of ever creating another God Emperor. Not to mention all the other consequences that occur due to the God Emperor's choices such as the Ixians and the Scattering of the Fish Speakers. CG's story is NOWHERE near this depth, which again, is understandable since it's a different medium.

And ultimately they realize the purpose that they have been fighting for,a better world for Lelouch and being the Emperor for Paul.

No, Paul never does achieve his final goal, at least not himself. Becoming emperor is only a step to set up the requirements. The first book of Dune is an introduction; all the sequels can be seen as consequences of his actions. The prequels are a whole other thing to deal with. Afaik, we never come to know what Paul's true goal was. We know he wanted to turn Dune into a planet of life. This does happen eventually, I think book 5. However, in regards to the Bene Gesserit, we do not know whether he wanted to destroy them completely for revenge (most likely wanted to but understood the insane consequences this would have on the political and religious world) or if halting their goals sufficed. Also, while he may have achieved his goals or not, they came with many underlying consequences that he may or may not have predicted, such as the gholas of Duncan Idaho and the roles he would play or the fact that the Bene Gesserit took advantage of the Atreides bloodline which had created powerful genes they did not originally expect.

I don't want to take anything from the guy who made the CG story,it's just that the stories are similar.

LOL Saying CG is like Dune is one the greatest praises of CG I've ever heard. You take nothing away from the creators; you're saying they managed to make a story that manages to compare to the world of Dune. Unbelievable.

I could go on and on but I won't. There are a few similarities. But to compare the eventual trainwreck of CG to the sci-fi masterpiece of Dune is ludicrous. If anything, CG is Dune simplified a million fold and then has its second half ruined. But thanks, you've reminded me to keep reading Dune. I still have like 10 books to get through.

edit: woah realized I wrote a lot more than I intended. I'm not angry or anything, if that's what it sounds/looks like, but it's more the result of how good Dune is.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
May 02 2012 23:01 GMT
#41045
First say I don't want to get into a big argument, then post a huge wall of argument.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
May 03 2012 04:42 GMT
#41046
On May 03 2012 07:29 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 06:53 Heh_ wrote:
On May 03 2012 05:42 Latham wrote:
CLAYMORE #126 + Show Spoiler +
Am I reading this right? Claymore is over? like finally finished over? What happened to Pruscilla and Claire? Why let that new abysmal one walk away freely? What happens with the boy/guy and the 2 men (scientist and recruiter)? WTF I AM SO CONFUSE.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yes what the fuck. Did it get axed because its popularity was dropping? I admit, I started to grow bored with the plot. Super strong unstoppable rebels? Just resurrect a few abyssal ones!

There's so many things left hanging (like Rimuto's head lololol), they better have a sequel or something similar.


I dont think its over, just seems like a pivotal point in the series.

Its been dragging along with stuff I dont care about for a while nowa super long uninteresting battle with some thick ass plot armour, (but I guess you can get away with that when everyone can just put their limbs back together). Im hoping it moves to stuff that actually matters now. Otherwise its probably the biggest copout Ive experienced and would take some beating.

Didn't they have an anime for Claymore? Does anyone know where it ended because this manga ending is really disappointing.
BW for life | Fantasy, MMA, SlayerS_Boxer | Taengoo! n_n | "Lelouch vi Britannia commands you! Obey me, subjects! OBEY ME, WORLD!" | <3 Emi
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 03 2012 05:08 GMT
#41047
On May 03 2012 06:53 Zergneedsfood wrote:
wtf Sent? Where did that even come from?

Also, to be fair, Amuro turned man because he got Brightslapped.

i know, totally came out of nowhere. sigh people these days...
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 05:16:08
May 03 2012 05:15 GMT
#41048
On May 03 2012 14:08 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 06:53 Zergneedsfood wrote:
wtf Sent? Where did that even come from?

Also, to be fair, Amuro turned man because he got Brightslapped.

i know, totally came out of nowhere. sigh people these days...

Well, you people don't want me to rant about Code Geass when people start talking about it, so I decided to rant about Evangelion in its place.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
May 03 2012 05:20 GMT
#41049
whoa, im rewatching birdy and the dub isnt that bad. it sounds perfect for like a late nights kids show on cartoon network; would fit right in if toonami came back
jaedong the man with the huge dong
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9593 Posts
May 03 2012 06:16 GMT
#41050
On May 03 2012 13:42 NationInArms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 07:29 Rebs wrote:
On May 03 2012 06:53 Heh_ wrote:
On May 03 2012 05:42 Latham wrote:
CLAYMORE #126 + Show Spoiler +
Am I reading this right? Claymore is over? like finally finished over? What happened to Pruscilla and Claire? Why let that new abysmal one walk away freely? What happens with the boy/guy and the 2 men (scientist and recruiter)? WTF I AM SO CONFUSE.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yes what the fuck. Did it get axed because its popularity was dropping? I admit, I started to grow bored with the plot. Super strong unstoppable rebels? Just resurrect a few abyssal ones!

There's so many things left hanging (like Rimuto's head lololol), they better have a sequel or something similar.


I dont think its over, just seems like a pivotal point in the series.

Its been dragging along with stuff I dont care about for a while nowa super long uninteresting battle with some thick ass plot armour, (but I guess you can get away with that when everyone can just put their limbs back together). Im hoping it moves to stuff that actually matters now. Otherwise its probably the biggest copout Ive experienced and would take some beating.

Didn't they have an anime for Claymore? Does anyone know where it ended because this manga ending is really disappointing.


AFAIK it ended with the winter campaign. Claire & co never returned from the North in the anime.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
May 03 2012 08:47 GMT
#41051
On May 03 2012 13:42 NationInArms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 07:29 Rebs wrote:
On May 03 2012 06:53 Heh_ wrote:
On May 03 2012 05:42 Latham wrote:
CLAYMORE #126 + Show Spoiler +
Am I reading this right? Claymore is over? like finally finished over? What happened to Pruscilla and Claire? Why let that new abysmal one walk away freely? What happens with the boy/guy and the 2 men (scientist and recruiter)? WTF I AM SO CONFUSE.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yes what the fuck. Did it get axed because its popularity was dropping? I admit, I started to grow bored with the plot. Super strong unstoppable rebels? Just resurrect a few abyssal ones!

There's so many things left hanging (like Rimuto's head lololol), they better have a sequel or something similar.


I dont think its over, just seems like a pivotal point in the series.

Its been dragging along with stuff I dont care about for a while nowa super long uninteresting battle with some thick ass plot armour, (but I guess you can get away with that when everyone can just put their limbs back together). Im hoping it moves to stuff that actually matters now. Otherwise its probably the biggest copout Ive experienced and would take some beating.

Didn't they have an anime for Claymore? Does anyone know where it ended because this manga ending is really disappointing.


Yea, it ends at the Rigaldo fight but they change the ending a fair bit so that Priscilla and Isley make an appearance. Generally just changed shit to axe any chance of continuing it. I like it up until then though Its "GrimDark".
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3579 Posts
May 03 2012 09:02 GMT
#41052
Yuru yuri s2 incoming hnnnnnggg
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 11:43:33
May 03 2012 09:40 GMT
#41053
On May 03 2012 18:02 BrTarolg wrote:
Yuru yuri s2 incoming hnnnnnggg
iknowrightsoexcite

damnit now i want to re-watch it ;; i already have so much (for once!) to watch though.
#freeshauni
Akash
Profile Joined October 2010
Romania113 Posts
May 03 2012 14:58 GMT
#41054

And ultimately they realize the purpose that they have been fighting for,a better world for Lelouch and being the Emperor for Paul.

No, Paul never does achieve his final goal, at least not himself. Becoming emperor is only a step to set up the requirements. The first book of Dune is an introduction; all the sequels can be seen as consequences of his actions. The prequels are a whole other thing to deal with. Afaik, we never come to know what Paul's true goal was. We know he wanted to turn Dune into a planet of life. This does happen eventually, I think book 5. However, in regards to the Bene Gesserit, we do not know whether he wanted to destroy them completely for revenge (most likely wanted to but understood the insane consequences this would have on the political and religious world) or if halting their goals sufficed. Also, while he may have achieved his goals or not, they came with many underlying consequences that he may or may not have predicted, such as the gholas of Duncan Idaho and the roles he would play or the fact that the Bene Gesserit took advantage of the Atreides bloodline which had created powerful genes they did not originally expect.


From what i remember,Paul wanted to escape the curse of his foresight.Everytime he saw the future,the timelines were altered.It was something similar to Heisenberg's principle.Everytime he looked into the future, the future was already modified compared to the future in which he didn't used his power.
That's why,after the failed Bene Tleilaxu coup d'etat which caused him to go blind and entrusting regency and his children to his sister,Alia,he dissapeared into the desert.

But enough about Dune .

I didn't mean to say that CG is comparable to Dune.It's like comparing one of those shitty 1 million $ budget fantasy movies to Lord of the Rings.But it has some similarities.That was just what i was trying to say.

Also , gz Mr KazeHydra for such a in-depth analysis of my post. I tip my hat to you .


Also i'll go watch Gundam next,as previous people strongly recommended.
The glory of the Elder Days and the hosts of Beleriand, so many great princes and captains were assembled. And yet not so many, nor so fair, as when Thangorodrim was broken, and the Elves deemed that evil was ended for ever, and it was not so!
cozzE
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia357 Posts
May 03 2012 15:04 GMT
#41055
On May 03 2012 06:39 Monokeros wrote:
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On May 03 2012 06:33 Akash wrote:
As it seems,the Code Geass feud has calmed a bit.I don't want to stir it up,i just finished watching it along a few other anime's and i want to share my 2 cents with the folks.

I'll just add spoiler tags so people who didn't watched it won't have the anime ruined for them.


+ Show Spoiler +

First of all,this is not a "OMG CG IS SO IMBA!!!!" argument.I haven't seen any other mecha anime's so i have nothing to compare it too.So i'll just state my opionion on it,no comparisons to other animes.

First of all,just a few thoughts towards the people who state that CG is having such a "fresh and unique story".I don't know why most people didn't see this,but CG story seems very similar to the Dune story of Paul Muad'dib Atreides.

They're both relatives to the ruling emperor,Lelouch being a son and Paul's Atreides line being distant relatives.They both have or receive above normal powers,Lelouch receiving Geass,while Paul being the Kwisatz Haderach with the power of foresight.Also,they gather they're own armies,Black Knights for Lelouch and the fremen legions for Paul.

And ultimately they realize the purpose that they have been fighting for,a better world for Lelouch and being the Emperor for Paul.

I don't want to take anything from the guy who made the CG story,it's just that the stories are similar.

Well,getting back to the point.CG strong points are the constant flip of events which keeps the viewer on it's toes,trying to guess what's gonna happen next.Some people call this a cheap trick,i personally loved it.

One of the things that i look for in a anime is first of all,romance.Don't laugh....for crying out loud.Some people seek mistery,others seek good battle scenes in anime's.I just seek good romance.It tends to compensate the blood and gore you find in most anime's these days.

But the amount of unrequited love, or every girl dieing after they confessed the feelings for either Lelouch or someone else it made me puke or literally spit my guts out. It just made me sick .
The only good things that saved this "eradicate all love" stuff was the last scene where you see Ohgi and Villeta togeter with her being pregnant,also Tohdoh and his girl being alive.

So that means they will just make babies and multiply like rabbits.So hope remains.

The final conclusion.It's not as good as the hardcore fanboys see it,but not as bad as the elitist squad make it sound like.
My opinion is this....it's a good anime and i enjoyed it.Comparing tastes in any matter is pointless,especially with anime.

Gustibus non discutandum.(Tastes are not something to be discussed).


Doesn't matter Gundam is a better Space Opera anime.


Which 'Gundam' Anime series are you referring to? You've intrigued me.
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
May 03 2012 15:17 GMT
#41056
On May 03 2012 23:58 Akash wrote:

Show nested quote +
And ultimately they realize the purpose that they have been fighting for,a better world for Lelouch and being the Emperor for Paul.

No, Paul never does achieve his final goal, at least not himself. Becoming emperor is only a step to set up the requirements. The first book of Dune is an introduction; all the sequels can be seen as consequences of his actions. The prequels are a whole other thing to deal with. Afaik, we never come to know what Paul's true goal was. We know he wanted to turn Dune into a planet of life. This does happen eventually, I think book 5. However, in regards to the Bene Gesserit, we do not know whether he wanted to destroy them completely for revenge (most likely wanted to but understood the insane consequences this would have on the political and religious world) or if halting their goals sufficed. Also, while he may have achieved his goals or not, they came with many underlying consequences that he may or may not have predicted, such as the gholas of Duncan Idaho and the roles he would play or the fact that the Bene Gesserit took advantage of the Atreides bloodline which had created powerful genes they did not originally expect.


From what i remember,Paul wanted to escape the curse of his foresight.Everytime he saw the future,the timelines were altered.It was something similar to Heisenberg's principle.Everytime he looked into the future, the future was already modified compared to the future in which he didn't used his power.
That's why,after the failed Bene Tleilaxu coup d'etat which caused him to go blind and entrusting regency and his children to his sister,Alia,he dissapeared into the desert.

But enough about Dune .

I didn't mean to say that CG is comparable to Dune.It's like comparing one of those shitty 1 million $ budget fantasy movies to Lord of the Rings.But it has some similarities.That was just what i was trying to say.

Also , gz Mr KazeHydra for such a in-depth analysis of my post. I tip my hat to you .


Also i'll go watch Gundam next,as previous people strongly recommended.

hehe yeah I overreacted but it sounded like you thought they were more similar than just a couple comparisons.

Anyway, if you want to watch Gundam, you should read this if you haven't already. Probably would want to start with either 0079 (you may not like it due to old animation) or SEED, but as Sent mentions, you can choose any AU gundam as a first and you won't be lost as far as story goes.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Akash
Profile Joined October 2010
Romania113 Posts
May 03 2012 15:26 GMT
#41057
On May 04 2012 00:17 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 23:58 Akash wrote:

And ultimately they realize the purpose that they have been fighting for,a better world for Lelouch and being the Emperor for Paul.

No, Paul never does achieve his final goal, at least not himself. Becoming emperor is only a step to set up the requirements. The first book of Dune is an introduction; all the sequels can be seen as consequences of his actions. The prequels are a whole other thing to deal with. Afaik, we never come to know what Paul's true goal was. We know he wanted to turn Dune into a planet of life. This does happen eventually, I think book 5. However, in regards to the Bene Gesserit, we do not know whether he wanted to destroy them completely for revenge (most likely wanted to but understood the insane consequences this would have on the political and religious world) or if halting their goals sufficed. Also, while he may have achieved his goals or not, they came with many underlying consequences that he may or may not have predicted, such as the gholas of Duncan Idaho and the roles he would play or the fact that the Bene Gesserit took advantage of the Atreides bloodline which had created powerful genes they did not originally expect.


From what i remember,Paul wanted to escape the curse of his foresight.Everytime he saw the future,the timelines were altered.It was something similar to Heisenberg's principle.Everytime he looked into the future, the future was already modified compared to the future in which he didn't used his power.
That's why,after the failed Bene Tleilaxu coup d'etat which caused him to go blind and entrusting regency and his children to his sister,Alia,he dissapeared into the desert.

But enough about Dune .

I didn't mean to say that CG is comparable to Dune.It's like comparing one of those shitty 1 million $ budget fantasy movies to Lord of the Rings.But it has some similarities.That was just what i was trying to say.

Also , gz Mr KazeHydra for such a in-depth analysis of my post. I tip my hat to you .


Also i'll go watch Gundam next,as previous people strongly recommended.

hehe yeah I overreacted but it sounded like you thought they were more similar than just a couple comparisons.

Anyway, if you want to watch Gundam, you should read this if you haven't already. Probably would want to start with either 0079 (you may not like it due to old animation) or SEED, but as Sent mentions, you can choose any AU gundam as a first and you won't be lost as far as story goes.



The million dollar question. Does it have any romance in any of them ? Doesn't matter if it's the original Gundam or Alternate Universe.
The glory of the Elder Days and the hosts of Beleriand, so many great princes and captains were assembled. And yet not so many, nor so fair, as when Thangorodrim was broken, and the Elves deemed that evil was ended for ever, and it was not so!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 03 2012 15:41 GMT
#41058
On May 04 2012 00:26 Akash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 00:17 KazeHydra wrote:
On May 03 2012 23:58 Akash wrote:

And ultimately they realize the purpose that they have been fighting for,a better world for Lelouch and being the Emperor for Paul.

No, Paul never does achieve his final goal, at least not himself. Becoming emperor is only a step to set up the requirements. The first book of Dune is an introduction; all the sequels can be seen as consequences of his actions. The prequels are a whole other thing to deal with. Afaik, we never come to know what Paul's true goal was. We know he wanted to turn Dune into a planet of life. This does happen eventually, I think book 5. However, in regards to the Bene Gesserit, we do not know whether he wanted to destroy them completely for revenge (most likely wanted to but understood the insane consequences this would have on the political and religious world) or if halting their goals sufficed. Also, while he may have achieved his goals or not, they came with many underlying consequences that he may or may not have predicted, such as the gholas of Duncan Idaho and the roles he would play or the fact that the Bene Gesserit took advantage of the Atreides bloodline which had created powerful genes they did not originally expect.


From what i remember,Paul wanted to escape the curse of his foresight.Everytime he saw the future,the timelines were altered.It was something similar to Heisenberg's principle.Everytime he looked into the future, the future was already modified compared to the future in which he didn't used his power.
That's why,after the failed Bene Tleilaxu coup d'etat which caused him to go blind and entrusting regency and his children to his sister,Alia,he dissapeared into the desert.

But enough about Dune .

I didn't mean to say that CG is comparable to Dune.It's like comparing one of those shitty 1 million $ budget fantasy movies to Lord of the Rings.But it has some similarities.That was just what i was trying to say.

Also , gz Mr KazeHydra for such a in-depth analysis of my post. I tip my hat to you .


Also i'll go watch Gundam next,as previous people strongly recommended.

hehe yeah I overreacted but it sounded like you thought they were more similar than just a couple comparisons.

Anyway, if you want to watch Gundam, you should read this if you haven't already. Probably would want to start with either 0079 (you may not like it due to old animation) or SEED, but as Sent mentions, you can choose any AU gundam as a first and you won't be lost as far as story goes.



The million dollar question. Does it have any romance in any of them ? Doesn't matter if it's the original Gundam or Alternate Universe.

None of them have romance as the main plot, except (sort of) G Gundam. They all usually have at least one sub-plot of a relationship, but it's rarely if ever the main focus.

Also, don't get turned off to all Gundam if you don't like one of them. Most of the AU series are radically different in styles, so if you don't like Wing, or SEED, or G, or whatever, try a different one.
It's your boy Guzma!
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
May 03 2012 15:47 GMT
#41059
On May 04 2012 00:26 Akash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 00:17 KazeHydra wrote:
On May 03 2012 23:58 Akash wrote:

And ultimately they realize the purpose that they have been fighting for,a better world for Lelouch and being the Emperor for Paul.

No, Paul never does achieve his final goal, at least not himself. Becoming emperor is only a step to set up the requirements. The first book of Dune is an introduction; all the sequels can be seen as consequences of his actions. The prequels are a whole other thing to deal with. Afaik, we never come to know what Paul's true goal was. We know he wanted to turn Dune into a planet of life. This does happen eventually, I think book 5. However, in regards to the Bene Gesserit, we do not know whether he wanted to destroy them completely for revenge (most likely wanted to but understood the insane consequences this would have on the political and religious world) or if halting their goals sufficed. Also, while he may have achieved his goals or not, they came with many underlying consequences that he may or may not have predicted, such as the gholas of Duncan Idaho and the roles he would play or the fact that the Bene Gesserit took advantage of the Atreides bloodline which had created powerful genes they did not originally expect.


From what i remember,Paul wanted to escape the curse of his foresight.Everytime he saw the future,the timelines were altered.It was something similar to Heisenberg's principle.Everytime he looked into the future, the future was already modified compared to the future in which he didn't used his power.
That's why,after the failed Bene Tleilaxu coup d'etat which caused him to go blind and entrusting regency and his children to his sister,Alia,he dissapeared into the desert.

But enough about Dune .

I didn't mean to say that CG is comparable to Dune.It's like comparing one of those shitty 1 million $ budget fantasy movies to Lord of the Rings.But it has some similarities.That was just what i was trying to say.

Also , gz Mr KazeHydra for such a in-depth analysis of my post. I tip my hat to you .


Also i'll go watch Gundam next,as previous people strongly recommended.

hehe yeah I overreacted but it sounded like you thought they were more similar than just a couple comparisons.

Anyway, if you want to watch Gundam, you should read this if you haven't already. Probably would want to start with either 0079 (you may not like it due to old animation) or SEED, but as Sent mentions, you can choose any AU gundam as a first and you won't be lost as far as story goes.



The million dollar question. Does it have any romance in any of them ? Doesn't matter if it's the original Gundam or Alternate Universe.

First of all, I'm kind of like you in liking romance in my anime regardless of genre; I don't need it but it will always be a plus to me. so yes, actually most (from what I've seen) have some amount of romance though it varies from just "being there" to actually being developed. For example, I got completely baited into thinking AGE had romance when really the girls are just there to make babies. Not joking at all. Series is still really good though. SEED, however, is my favorite (again, from what I've seen) as far as romance in Gundam series. Actually, it's my favorite Gundam series period and the romance is just another plus. Sent can give a better answer though; I know he has a favorite couple but I forget which series it's from.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 17:19:15
May 03 2012 17:17 GMT
#41060
On May 04 2012 00:26 Akash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 00:17 KazeHydra wrote:
On May 03 2012 23:58 Akash wrote:

And ultimately they realize the purpose that they have been fighting for,a better world for Lelouch and being the Emperor for Paul.

No, Paul never does achieve his final goal, at least not himself. Becoming emperor is only a step to set up the requirements. The first book of Dune is an introduction; all the sequels can be seen as consequences of his actions. The prequels are a whole other thing to deal with. Afaik, we never come to know what Paul's true goal was. We know he wanted to turn Dune into a planet of life. This does happen eventually, I think book 5. However, in regards to the Bene Gesserit, we do not know whether he wanted to destroy them completely for revenge (most likely wanted to but understood the insane consequences this would have on the political and religious world) or if halting their goals sufficed. Also, while he may have achieved his goals or not, they came with many underlying consequences that he may or may not have predicted, such as the gholas of Duncan Idaho and the roles he would play or the fact that the Bene Gesserit took advantage of the Atreides bloodline which had created powerful genes they did not originally expect.


From what i remember,Paul wanted to escape the curse of his foresight.Everytime he saw the future,the timelines were altered.It was something similar to Heisenberg's principle.Everytime he looked into the future, the future was already modified compared to the future in which he didn't used his power.
That's why,after the failed Bene Tleilaxu coup d'etat which caused him to go blind and entrusting regency and his children to his sister,Alia,he dissapeared into the desert.

But enough about Dune .

I didn't mean to say that CG is comparable to Dune.It's like comparing one of those shitty 1 million $ budget fantasy movies to Lord of the Rings.But it has some similarities.That was just what i was trying to say.

Also , gz Mr KazeHydra for such a in-depth analysis of my post. I tip my hat to you .


Also i'll go watch Gundam next,as previous people strongly recommended.

hehe yeah I overreacted but it sounded like you thought they were more similar than just a couple comparisons.

Anyway, if you want to watch Gundam, you should read this if you haven't already. Probably would want to start with either 0079 (you may not like it due to old animation) or SEED, but as Sent mentions, you can choose any AU gundam as a first and you won't be lost as far as story goes.



The million dollar question. Does it have any romance in any of them ? Doesn't matter if it's the original Gundam or Alternate Universe.

Gundams with romance as notable plot points:
08th MS Team, G, X, Turn A, SEED. Maybe some others that are slipping my mind. And virtually every one has romance, its just a question of how important and how much focus it gets. Of those I mentioned, X has the best relationship (Garrod and Tiffa), and SEED focuses the most on relationships.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
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