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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 01 2012 02:28 GMT
#40961
On May 01 2012 11:15 NationInArms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 03:03 mcimba42 wrote:
Holy fucking shit, I'm sorry for bringing up the CG discussion. I had no idea people cared so much about it. Jesus.

Welcome to TLADT. n_n

Is Sentenal including SEED Destiny with SEED? Nice to see that Madoka sold so much~

Nah, SEED Destiny is legitimately a different show. Its a sequel, a really bad sequel, but not simply "season 2" of SEED.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
May 01 2012 02:31 GMT
#40962
On May 01 2012 11:16 Requizen wrote:
Alright, seriously? This has gone past shitstorm and into something else. Take it to PMs or something, imo.


Gundam otaku to stronk..
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 02:31:47
May 01 2012 02:31 GMT
#40963
seed was as ridiculous as code geass in terms of trainwreck, but at least I got some fun out of CG
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
May 01 2012 02:33 GMT
#40964
On May 01 2012 11:31 iky43210 wrote:
seed was as ridiculous as code geass in terms of trainwreck, but at least I got some fun out of CG

Just throwing more fuel to dying flames aren't you?
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Dullahan
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States248 Posts
May 01 2012 03:52 GMT
#40965
On May 01 2012 06:58 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 21:43 Dullahan wrote:
On April 30 2012 18:27 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 18:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:

On April 30 2012 14:39 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:32 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:29 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:16 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:


On April 30 2012 14:10 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 12:53 Dullahan wrote:


Very much agreed about Clannad, I think one of the big reasons I liked the anime so much was how well they managed to incorporate all the different routes.
No. You have no soul.


I didn't play the VN, and I heard a lot was left out (how much exactly? probably not too much, or were the different routes actually fleshed out that far past just dating?) but it's nice to hear that :D

I tried to watch Kanon (watched like 13 episodes or so on request of friend, claiming it was great) but I got bored... the arcs weren't smooth, but in Clannad they did a good job focusing on each arc while also developing the other characters and plot etc.
In all seriousness, when you've both watched the anime and read the VN it feels like that your feelings about the anime depends on which characters you liked in the VN. I for one really disliked Nagisa so the anime ends up really meh to me, especially as my fave heroine (Kotomi) has her route violently raped and then fed to the dogs, with no chance of being saved. I feel like I'm the only person that really liked Kotomi though, lol. Just get a lot of hate from people when I mention her, especially from people who only watched the anime.


Wait whoa whoa that is seriously what happens in the kotomi route? i didn't know a romance/drama could be so... cruel? or is that just one of her endings?

Also, I also didn't like Nagisa that much, though I didn't play the VN. In the anime I liked tomoyo the most, so I was quite disappointed to see no "arc" for her. How much of the game, would you say, is Nagisa compared to each of the other heroines?

I, having only watched the anime, will say that I liked Kotomi too ^^. Sunohara was the best though ! kekek
I didn't mean literally...it was figuratively speaking. >_> Though what they did was about as bad.

In the VN Nagisa is still the main heroine and she usually plays a part in other routes (for no reason at all, seriously fuck her can't she gtfo she just pisses me off lol) but the other ones actually don't get hella friendzoned in their routes (obviously) and they cut out a lot of things,even a whole route though it wasn't really relevant to the main plot anyway. It's obvious why they did it but still sucks.


Oh, rofl kk xD

Hm, what is this route that wasn't in the anime?

Is it possibly... + Show Spoiler +
The sunohara ending? xD. Or I'm guessing there is an imouto route?



No imouto route. It's technically one, but at the same time not at all. Sumohara ending is a bit...different. There are a lot of small details. You should give the VN a try if you enjoyed the anime, it's far better imo (though that's the case with most VNs that have an anime attached to them)


There's a side character (doesn't show up at all in the anime) that gets his own route where he pairs up with Ryou


Wait, you play as a male side character ? o.o interesting
Well, I guess that's the obvious reason why it wasn't in the show now xD


You're still Tomoya, but instead of you getting together with one of the girls, you help Kappei pair off with Ryou. I suppose you could say it makes up for Ryou not getting a proper route with Tomoya (her "route" is essentially a bad end in the middle of Kyou's route).
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 04:08:27
May 01 2012 04:07 GMT
#40966
On May 01 2012 11:06 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 10:03 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On May 01 2012 07:22 Kaal wrote:
Code Geass sold ~90% of what Gundam SEED has


That was what SEED sold in it's first WEEK of release in japan.

SEED is easily the most popular anime that's come out in the last 15 years. It singlehandedly revived the entire anime industry.


Well actually wiki says:

In April 2004, Bandai Visual announced that one million copies of the Gundam SEED DVD had been sold in Japan, with the first volume having sold over 100,000 copies.


The series ended in september 2003, so that's ~7 months after. If you look at Code Geass,

By August 2008, over 900,000 Code Geass discs have been sold in Japan.


That's 1 year after season 1 but 1 month before R2 finished airing. Both series are about ~50 episodes so in terms of sales, it seems like Code Geass has the stronger numbers there?


Anyways, me and Sentenal have cleared things up, there were some silly misconceptions which had a snowball effect but now everything's good xD I think everyone should just ignore the majority of our posts since it would take quite a long time to see what went wrong especially if you want to try to dissect our actual opinions from them.


Based wikipedia. Here's an actual sales chart. Number in parentheses is excluding BD-release, no idea why its there.

Show nested quote +


01)  *78,671  ¥3,558m  15 ep  2009  Shaft__________  Aniplex______  Bakemonogatari
02)  *71,057  ¥3,069m  12 ep  2011  Shaft__________  Aniplex______  Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica
03)  *68,734  ¥5,629m  50 ep  2004  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED Destiny
04)  *58,589  ¥4,798m  50 ep  2002  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED
05)  *50,551 (45,366)  ¥2,673m  25 ep  2006  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch
06)  *50,103  ¥1,999m  13 ep  2011  ufotable_______  Aniplex______  Fate/Zero ★(box/cour 1)
07)  *46,146  ¥2,705m  25 ep  2008  Satelight______  Bandai_______  Macross Frontier
08)  *43,883  ¥2,309m  14 ep  2009  Kyoto Animation  Pony Canyon__  K-ON!
09)  *42,690  ¥2,370m  25 ep  2008  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch R2


Wow, where do you get those from? (like page or link)

Also, is the first number the number of sales sold in the first week, or...? I heard madoka sold a lot, but wow that is a lot.


On May 01 2012 12:52 Dullahan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 06:58 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 30 2012 21:43 Dullahan wrote:
On April 30 2012 18:27 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 18:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:

On April 30 2012 14:39 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:32 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:29 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:16 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:


On April 30 2012 14:10 Elem wrote:
[quote]No. You have no soul.


I didn't play the VN, and I heard a lot was left out (how much exactly? probably not too much, or were the different routes actually fleshed out that far past just dating?) but it's nice to hear that :D

I tried to watch Kanon (watched like 13 episodes or so on request of friend, claiming it was great) but I got bored... the arcs weren't smooth, but in Clannad they did a good job focusing on each arc while also developing the other characters and plot etc.
In all seriousness, when you've both watched the anime and read the VN it feels like that your feelings about the anime depends on which characters you liked in the VN. I for one really disliked Nagisa so the anime ends up really meh to me, especially as my fave heroine (Kotomi) has her route violently raped and then fed to the dogs, with no chance of being saved. I feel like I'm the only person that really liked Kotomi though, lol. Just get a lot of hate from people when I mention her, especially from people who only watched the anime.


Wait whoa whoa that is seriously what happens in the kotomi route? i didn't know a romance/drama could be so... cruel? or is that just one of her endings?

Also, I also didn't like Nagisa that much, though I didn't play the VN. In the anime I liked tomoyo the most, so I was quite disappointed to see no "arc" for her. How much of the game, would you say, is Nagisa compared to each of the other heroines?

I, having only watched the anime, will say that I liked Kotomi too ^^. Sunohara was the best though ! kekek
I didn't mean literally...it was figuratively speaking. >_> Though what they did was about as bad.

In the VN Nagisa is still the main heroine and she usually plays a part in other routes (for no reason at all, seriously fuck her can't she gtfo she just pisses me off lol) but the other ones actually don't get hella friendzoned in their routes (obviously) and they cut out a lot of things,even a whole route though it wasn't really relevant to the main plot anyway. It's obvious why they did it but still sucks.


Oh, rofl kk xD

Hm, what is this route that wasn't in the anime?

Is it possibly... + Show Spoiler +
The sunohara ending? xD. Or I'm guessing there is an imouto route?



No imouto route. It's technically one, but at the same time not at all. Sumohara ending is a bit...different. There are a lot of small details. You should give the VN a try if you enjoyed the anime, it's far better imo (though that's the case with most VNs that have an anime attached to them)


There's a side character (doesn't show up at all in the anime) that gets his own route where he pairs up with Ryou


Wait, you play as a male side character ? o.o interesting
Well, I guess that's the obvious reason why it wasn't in the show now xD


You're still Tomoya, but instead of you getting together with one of the girls, you help Kappei pair off with Ryou. I suppose you could say it makes up for Ryou not getting a proper route with Tomoya (her "route" is essentially a bad end in the middle of Kyou's route).


Ah, thanks. That's interesting. Well, now I understand why the Kyou/Ryou special episode went the way it did ^^
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
May 01 2012 04:55 GMT
#40967
On May 01 2012 13:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 11:06 Kaal wrote:
On May 01 2012 10:03 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On May 01 2012 07:22 Kaal wrote:
Code Geass sold ~90% of what Gundam SEED has


That was what SEED sold in it's first WEEK of release in japan.

SEED is easily the most popular anime that's come out in the last 15 years. It singlehandedly revived the entire anime industry.


Well actually wiki says:

In April 2004, Bandai Visual announced that one million copies of the Gundam SEED DVD had been sold in Japan, with the first volume having sold over 100,000 copies.


The series ended in september 2003, so that's ~7 months after. If you look at Code Geass,

By August 2008, over 900,000 Code Geass discs have been sold in Japan.


That's 1 year after season 1 but 1 month before R2 finished airing. Both series are about ~50 episodes so in terms of sales, it seems like Code Geass has the stronger numbers there?


Anyways, me and Sentenal have cleared things up, there were some silly misconceptions which had a snowball effect but now everything's good xD I think everyone should just ignore the majority of our posts since it would take quite a long time to see what went wrong especially if you want to try to dissect our actual opinions from them.


Based wikipedia. Here's an actual sales chart. Number in parentheses is excluding BD-release, no idea why its there.



01)  *78,671  ¥3,558m  15 ep  2009  Shaft__________  Aniplex______  Bakemonogatari
02)  *71,057  ¥3,069m  12 ep  2011  Shaft__________  Aniplex______  Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica
03)  *68,734  ¥5,629m  50 ep  2004  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED Destiny
04)  *58,589  ¥4,798m  50 ep  2002  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED
05)  *50,551 (45,366)  ¥2,673m  25 ep  2006  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch
06)  *50,103  ¥1,999m  13 ep  2011  ufotable_______  Aniplex______  Fate/Zero ★(box/cour 1)
07)  *46,146  ¥2,705m  25 ep  2008  Satelight______  Bandai_______  Macross Frontier
08)  *43,883  ¥2,309m  14 ep  2009  Kyoto Animation  Pony Canyon__  K-ON!
09)  *42,690  ¥2,370m  25 ep  2008  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch R2


Wow, where do you get those from? (like page or link)

Also, is the first number the number of sales sold in the first week, or...? I heard madoka sold a lot, but wow that is a lot.


Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 12:52 Dullahan wrote:
On May 01 2012 06:58 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 30 2012 21:43 Dullahan wrote:
On April 30 2012 18:27 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 18:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:

On April 30 2012 14:39 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:32 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:29 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:16 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:


[quote]

I didn't play the VN, and I heard a lot was left out (how much exactly? probably not too much, or were the different routes actually fleshed out that far past just dating?) but it's nice to hear that :D

I tried to watch Kanon (watched like 13 episodes or so on request of friend, claiming it was great) but I got bored... the arcs weren't smooth, but in Clannad they did a good job focusing on each arc while also developing the other characters and plot etc.
In all seriousness, when you've both watched the anime and read the VN it feels like that your feelings about the anime depends on which characters you liked in the VN. I for one really disliked Nagisa so the anime ends up really meh to me, especially as my fave heroine (Kotomi) has her route violently raped and then fed to the dogs, with no chance of being saved. I feel like I'm the only person that really liked Kotomi though, lol. Just get a lot of hate from people when I mention her, especially from people who only watched the anime.


Wait whoa whoa that is seriously what happens in the kotomi route? i didn't know a romance/drama could be so... cruel? or is that just one of her endings?

Also, I also didn't like Nagisa that much, though I didn't play the VN. In the anime I liked tomoyo the most, so I was quite disappointed to see no "arc" for her. How much of the game, would you say, is Nagisa compared to each of the other heroines?

I, having only watched the anime, will say that I liked Kotomi too ^^. Sunohara was the best though ! kekek
I didn't mean literally...it was figuratively speaking. >_> Though what they did was about as bad.

In the VN Nagisa is still the main heroine and she usually plays a part in other routes (for no reason at all, seriously fuck her can't she gtfo she just pisses me off lol) but the other ones actually don't get hella friendzoned in their routes (obviously) and they cut out a lot of things,even a whole route though it wasn't really relevant to the main plot anyway. It's obvious why they did it but still sucks.


Oh, rofl kk xD

Hm, what is this route that wasn't in the anime?

Is it possibly... + Show Spoiler +
The sunohara ending? xD. Or I'm guessing there is an imouto route?



No imouto route. It's technically one, but at the same time not at all. Sumohara ending is a bit...different. There are a lot of small details. You should give the VN a try if you enjoyed the anime, it's far better imo (though that's the case with most VNs that have an anime attached to them)


There's a side character (doesn't show up at all in the anime) that gets his own route where he pairs up with Ryou


Wait, you play as a male side character ? o.o interesting
Well, I guess that's the obvious reason why it wasn't in the show now xD


You're still Tomoya, but instead of you getting together with one of the girls, you help Kappei pair off with Ryou. I suppose you could say it makes up for Ryou not getting a proper route with Tomoya (her "route" is essentially a bad end in the middle of Kyou's route).


Ah, thanks. That's interesting. Well, now I understand why the Kyou/Ryou special episode went the way it did ^^

Googling around, found some more sales charts that include CG and SEED/SEED Destiny. Don't know how accurate or good the source is though.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 06:05:31
May 01 2012 05:57 GMT
#40968
On May 01 2012 13:55 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 13:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On May 01 2012 11:06 Kaal wrote:
On May 01 2012 10:03 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On May 01 2012 07:22 Kaal wrote:
Code Geass sold ~90% of what Gundam SEED has


That was what SEED sold in it's first WEEK of release in japan.

SEED is easily the most popular anime that's come out in the last 15 years. It singlehandedly revived the entire anime industry.


Well actually wiki says:

In April 2004, Bandai Visual announced that one million copies of the Gundam SEED DVD had been sold in Japan, with the first volume having sold over 100,000 copies.


The series ended in september 2003, so that's ~7 months after. If you look at Code Geass,

By August 2008, over 900,000 Code Geass discs have been sold in Japan.


That's 1 year after season 1 but 1 month before R2 finished airing. Both series are about ~50 episodes so in terms of sales, it seems like Code Geass has the stronger numbers there?


Anyways, me and Sentenal have cleared things up, there were some silly misconceptions which had a snowball effect but now everything's good xD I think everyone should just ignore the majority of our posts since it would take quite a long time to see what went wrong especially if you want to try to dissect our actual opinions from them.


Based wikipedia. Here's an actual sales chart. Number in parentheses is excluding BD-release, no idea why its there.



01)  *78,671  ¥3,558m  15 ep  2009  Shaft__________  Aniplex______  Bakemonogatari
02)  *71,057  ¥3,069m  12 ep  2011  Shaft__________  Aniplex______  Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica
03)  *68,734  ¥5,629m  50 ep  2004  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED Destiny
04)  *58,589  ¥4,798m  50 ep  2002  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED
05)  *50,551 (45,366)  ¥2,673m  25 ep  2006  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch
06)  *50,103  ¥1,999m  13 ep  2011  ufotable_______  Aniplex______  Fate/Zero ★(box/cour 1)
07)  *46,146  ¥2,705m  25 ep  2008  Satelight______  Bandai_______  Macross Frontier
08)  *43,883  ¥2,309m  14 ep  2009  Kyoto Animation  Pony Canyon__  K-ON!
09)  *42,690  ¥2,370m  25 ep  2008  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch R2


Wow, where do you get those from? (like page or link)

Also, is the first number the number of sales sold in the first week, or...? I heard madoka sold a lot, but wow that is a lot.


On May 01 2012 12:52 Dullahan wrote:
On May 01 2012 06:58 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 30 2012 21:43 Dullahan wrote:
On April 30 2012 18:27 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 18:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:

On April 30 2012 14:39 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:32 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:29 Elem wrote:
[quote]In all seriousness, when you've both watched the anime and read the VN it feels like that your feelings about the anime depends on which characters you liked in the VN. I for one really disliked Nagisa so the anime ends up really meh to me, especially as my fave heroine (Kotomi) has her route violently raped and then fed to the dogs, with no chance of being saved. I feel like I'm the only person that really liked Kotomi though, lol. Just get a lot of hate from people when I mention her, especially from people who only watched the anime.


Wait whoa whoa that is seriously what happens in the kotomi route? i didn't know a romance/drama could be so... cruel? or is that just one of her endings?

Also, I also didn't like Nagisa that much, though I didn't play the VN. In the anime I liked tomoyo the most, so I was quite disappointed to see no "arc" for her. How much of the game, would you say, is Nagisa compared to each of the other heroines?

I, having only watched the anime, will say that I liked Kotomi too ^^. Sunohara was the best though ! kekek
I didn't mean literally...it was figuratively speaking. >_> Though what they did was about as bad.

In the VN Nagisa is still the main heroine and she usually plays a part in other routes (for no reason at all, seriously fuck her can't she gtfo she just pisses me off lol) but the other ones actually don't get hella friendzoned in their routes (obviously) and they cut out a lot of things,even a whole route though it wasn't really relevant to the main plot anyway. It's obvious why they did it but still sucks.


Oh, rofl kk xD

Hm, what is this route that wasn't in the anime?

Is it possibly... + Show Spoiler +
The sunohara ending? xD. Or I'm guessing there is an imouto route?



No imouto route. It's technically one, but at the same time not at all. Sumohara ending is a bit...different. There are a lot of small details. You should give the VN a try if you enjoyed the anime, it's far better imo (though that's the case with most VNs that have an anime attached to them)


There's a side character (doesn't show up at all in the anime) that gets his own route where he pairs up with Ryou


Wait, you play as a male side character ? o.o interesting
Well, I guess that's the obvious reason why it wasn't in the show now xD


You're still Tomoya, but instead of you getting together with one of the girls, you help Kappei pair off with Ryou. I suppose you could say it makes up for Ryou not getting a proper route with Tomoya (her "route" is essentially a bad end in the middle of Kyou's route).


Ah, thanks. That's interesting. Well, now I understand why the Kyou/Ryou special episode went the way it did ^^

Googling around, found some more sales charts that include CG and SEED/SEED Destiny. Don't know how accurate or good the source is though.

http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?p=1972211#post1972211

Theres so much stuff in that thread, it does become hard to read. As far as I know, these charts are BD sales to date based upon yearly/monthly/weekly rankings or something. That's where the numbers came from though. There are sources for like, everything in there too.

But yeah, madoka vols 1-5 sold 50k+ in the first week, so thats why it's extremely high. It broke Bakemono's record of having most BDs sold in a single volume in the first week, also why it's extremely high too.

Also worth noting it's in average sales per unit (either boxset or volume), so it isnt a sum of all volumes, so I guess you can multiply it by volumes to get an approximate total sales. This way longer shows arent skewed as having an advantage.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
May 01 2012 06:43 GMT
#40969
Lol I thought I remembered SEED being on Toonami but people not liking it much or it being one of the worst Gundams, then I found it weird that people are saying SEED is good and stuff here. Then I found out there's SEED Destiny xD

On May 01 2012 13:55 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 13:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On May 01 2012 11:06 Kaal wrote:
On May 01 2012 10:03 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On May 01 2012 07:22 Kaal wrote:
Code Geass sold ~90% of what Gundam SEED has


That was what SEED sold in it's first WEEK of release in japan.

SEED is easily the most popular anime that's come out in the last 15 years. It singlehandedly revived the entire anime industry.


Well actually wiki says:

In April 2004, Bandai Visual announced that one million copies of the Gundam SEED DVD had been sold in Japan, with the first volume having sold over 100,000 copies.


The series ended in september 2003, so that's ~7 months after. If you look at Code Geass,

By August 2008, over 900,000 Code Geass discs have been sold in Japan.


That's 1 year after season 1 but 1 month before R2 finished airing. Both series are about ~50 episodes so in terms of sales, it seems like Code Geass has the stronger numbers there?


Anyways, me and Sentenal have cleared things up, there were some silly misconceptions which had a snowball effect but now everything's good xD I think everyone should just ignore the majority of our posts since it would take quite a long time to see what went wrong especially if you want to try to dissect our actual opinions from them.


Based wikipedia. Here's an actual sales chart. Number in parentheses is excluding BD-release, no idea why its there.



01)  *78,671  ¥3,558m  15 ep  2009  Shaft__________  Aniplex______  Bakemonogatari
02)  *71,057  ¥3,069m  12 ep  2011  Shaft__________  Aniplex______  Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica
03)  *68,734  ¥5,629m  50 ep  2004  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED Destiny
04)  *58,589  ¥4,798m  50 ep  2002  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED
05)  *50,551 (45,366)  ¥2,673m  25 ep  2006  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch
06)  *50,103  ¥1,999m  13 ep  2011  ufotable_______  Aniplex______  Fate/Zero ★(box/cour 1)
07)  *46,146  ¥2,705m  25 ep  2008  Satelight______  Bandai_______  Macross Frontier
08)  *43,883  ¥2,309m  14 ep  2009  Kyoto Animation  Pony Canyon__  K-ON!
09)  *42,690  ¥2,370m  25 ep  2008  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch R2


Wow, where do you get those from? (like page or link)

Also, is the first number the number of sales sold in the first week, or...? I heard madoka sold a lot, but wow that is a lot.


On May 01 2012 12:52 Dullahan wrote:
On May 01 2012 06:58 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 30 2012 21:43 Dullahan wrote:
On April 30 2012 18:27 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 18:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:

On April 30 2012 14:39 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:32 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:29 Elem wrote:
[quote]In all seriousness, when you've both watched the anime and read the VN it feels like that your feelings about the anime depends on which characters you liked in the VN. I for one really disliked Nagisa so the anime ends up really meh to me, especially as my fave heroine (Kotomi) has her route violently raped and then fed to the dogs, with no chance of being saved. I feel like I'm the only person that really liked Kotomi though, lol. Just get a lot of hate from people when I mention her, especially from people who only watched the anime.


Wait whoa whoa that is seriously what happens in the kotomi route? i didn't know a romance/drama could be so... cruel? or is that just one of her endings?

Also, I also didn't like Nagisa that much, though I didn't play the VN. In the anime I liked tomoyo the most, so I was quite disappointed to see no "arc" for her. How much of the game, would you say, is Nagisa compared to each of the other heroines?

I, having only watched the anime, will say that I liked Kotomi too ^^. Sunohara was the best though ! kekek
I didn't mean literally...it was figuratively speaking. >_> Though what they did was about as bad.

In the VN Nagisa is still the main heroine and she usually plays a part in other routes (for no reason at all, seriously fuck her can't she gtfo she just pisses me off lol) but the other ones actually don't get hella friendzoned in their routes (obviously) and they cut out a lot of things,even a whole route though it wasn't really relevant to the main plot anyway. It's obvious why they did it but still sucks.


Oh, rofl kk xD

Hm, what is this route that wasn't in the anime?

Is it possibly... + Show Spoiler +
The sunohara ending? xD. Or I'm guessing there is an imouto route?



No imouto route. It's technically one, but at the same time not at all. Sumohara ending is a bit...different. There are a lot of small details. You should give the VN a try if you enjoyed the anime, it's far better imo (though that's the case with most VNs that have an anime attached to them)


There's a side character (doesn't show up at all in the anime) that gets his own route where he pairs up with Ryou


Wait, you play as a male side character ? o.o interesting
Well, I guess that's the obvious reason why it wasn't in the show now xD


You're still Tomoya, but instead of you getting together with one of the girls, you help Kappei pair off with Ryou. I suppose you could say it makes up for Ryou not getting a proper route with Tomoya (her "route" is essentially a bad end in the middle of Kyou's route).


Ah, thanks. That's interesting. Well, now I understand why the Kyou/Ryou special episode went the way it did ^^

Googling around, found some more sales charts that include CG and SEED/SEED Destiny. Don't know how accurate or good the source is though.


On May 01 2012 14:57 Mysticesper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 13:55 Nagisama wrote:
On May 01 2012 13:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On May 01 2012 11:06 Kaal wrote:
On May 01 2012 10:03 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On May 01 2012 07:22 Kaal wrote:
Code Geass sold ~90% of what Gundam SEED has


That was what SEED sold in it's first WEEK of release in japan.

SEED is easily the most popular anime that's come out in the last 15 years. It singlehandedly revived the entire anime industry.


Well actually wiki says:

In April 2004, Bandai Visual announced that one million copies of the Gundam SEED DVD had been sold in Japan, with the first volume having sold over 100,000 copies.


The series ended in september 2003, so that's ~7 months after. If you look at Code Geass,

By August 2008, over 900,000 Code Geass discs have been sold in Japan.


That's 1 year after season 1 but 1 month before R2 finished airing. Both series are about ~50 episodes so in terms of sales, it seems like Code Geass has the stronger numbers there?


Anyways, me and Sentenal have cleared things up, there were some silly misconceptions which had a snowball effect but now everything's good xD I think everyone should just ignore the majority of our posts since it would take quite a long time to see what went wrong especially if you want to try to dissect our actual opinions from them.


Based wikipedia. Here's an actual sales chart. Number in parentheses is excluding BD-release, no idea why its there.



01)  *78,671  ¥3,558m  15 ep  2009  Shaft__________  Aniplex______  Bakemonogatari
02)  *71,057  ¥3,069m  12 ep  2011  Shaft__________  Aniplex______  Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica
03)  *68,734  ¥5,629m  50 ep  2004  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED Destiny
04)  *58,589  ¥4,798m  50 ep  2002  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED
05)  *50,551 (45,366)  ¥2,673m  25 ep  2006  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch
06)  *50,103  ¥1,999m  13 ep  2011  ufotable_______  Aniplex______  Fate/Zero ★(box/cour 1)
07)  *46,146  ¥2,705m  25 ep  2008  Satelight______  Bandai_______  Macross Frontier
08)  *43,883  ¥2,309m  14 ep  2009  Kyoto Animation  Pony Canyon__  K-ON!
09)  *42,690  ¥2,370m  25 ep  2008  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch R2


Wow, where do you get those from? (like page or link)

Also, is the first number the number of sales sold in the first week, or...? I heard madoka sold a lot, but wow that is a lot.


On May 01 2012 12:52 Dullahan wrote:
On May 01 2012 06:58 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 30 2012 21:43 Dullahan wrote:
On April 30 2012 18:27 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 18:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:

On April 30 2012 14:39 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:32 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
[quote]

Wait whoa whoa that is seriously what happens in the kotomi route? i didn't know a romance/drama could be so... cruel? or is that just one of her endings?

Also, I also didn't like Nagisa that much, though I didn't play the VN. In the anime I liked tomoyo the most, so I was quite disappointed to see no "arc" for her. How much of the game, would you say, is Nagisa compared to each of the other heroines?

I, having only watched the anime, will say that I liked Kotomi too ^^. Sunohara was the best though ! kekek
I didn't mean literally...it was figuratively speaking. >_> Though what they did was about as bad.

In the VN Nagisa is still the main heroine and she usually plays a part in other routes (for no reason at all, seriously fuck her can't she gtfo she just pisses me off lol) but the other ones actually don't get hella friendzoned in their routes (obviously) and they cut out a lot of things,even a whole route though it wasn't really relevant to the main plot anyway. It's obvious why they did it but still sucks.


Oh, rofl kk xD

Hm, what is this route that wasn't in the anime?

Is it possibly... + Show Spoiler +
The sunohara ending? xD. Or I'm guessing there is an imouto route?



No imouto route. It's technically one, but at the same time not at all. Sumohara ending is a bit...different. There are a lot of small details. You should give the VN a try if you enjoyed the anime, it's far better imo (though that's the case with most VNs that have an anime attached to them)


There's a side character (doesn't show up at all in the anime) that gets his own route where he pairs up with Ryou


Wait, you play as a male side character ? o.o interesting
Well, I guess that's the obvious reason why it wasn't in the show now xD


You're still Tomoya, but instead of you getting together with one of the girls, you help Kappei pair off with Ryou. I suppose you could say it makes up for Ryou not getting a proper route with Tomoya (her "route" is essentially a bad end in the middle of Kyou's route).


Ah, thanks. That's interesting. Well, now I understand why the Kyou/Ryou special episode went the way it did ^^

Googling around, found some more sales charts that include CG and SEED/SEED Destiny. Don't know how accurate or good the source is though.

http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?p=1972211#post1972211

Theres so much stuff in that thread, it does become hard to read. As far as I know, these charts are BD sales to date based upon yearly/monthly/weekly rankings or something. That's where the numbers came from though. There are sources for like, everything in there too.

But yeah, madoka vols 1-5 sold 50k+ in the first week, so thats why it's extremely high. It broke Bakemono's record of having most BDs sold in a single volume in the first week, also why it's extremely high too.

Also worth noting it's in average sales per unit (either boxset or volume), so it isnt a sum of all volumes, so I guess you can multiply it by volumes to get an approximate total sales. This way longer shows arent skewed as having an advantage.


Wow, nice links xD
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 01 2012 06:44 GMT
#40970
New Kaichou Wa Maid Sama

+ Show Spoiler +
That was actually really heartfelt. I figured there had to be some story behind her father, and that it had to do with her man-hate was a pretty good tie-in. This series, always really well written.


Anyway, has anyone watched any of the The World God Only Knows dub yet? I think I might pick it up next time I'm out, and the English cast looks good, I'm just not sure.
It's your boy Guzma!
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
May 01 2012 07:08 GMT
#40971
On May 01 2012 15:44 Requizen wrote:
New Kaichou Wa Maid Sama

+ Show Spoiler +
That was actually really heartfelt. I figured there had to be some story behind her father, and that it had to do with her man-hate was a pretty good tie-in. This series, always really well written.


Anyway, has anyone watched any of the The World God Only Knows dub yet? I think I might pick it up next time I'm out, and the English cast looks good, I'm just not sure.

How often does KWMS update? I used to read it and then it was slow at updating.
BW for life | Fantasy, MMA, SlayerS_Boxer | Taengoo! n_n | "Lelouch vi Britannia commands you! Obey me, subjects! OBEY ME, WORLD!" | <3 Emi
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 01 2012 07:12 GMT
#40972
On May 01 2012 16:08 NationInArms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 15:44 Requizen wrote:
New Kaichou Wa Maid Sama

+ Show Spoiler +
That was actually really heartfelt. I figured there had to be some story behind her father, and that it had to do with her man-hate was a pretty good tie-in. This series, always really well written.


Anyway, has anyone watched any of the The World God Only Knows dub yet? I think I might pick it up next time I'm out, and the English cast looks good, I'm just not sure.

How often does KWMS update? I used to read it and then it was slow at updating.

It's regularly monthly. Makes it better, I think.
It's your boy Guzma!
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 07:44:29
May 01 2012 07:44 GMT
#40973
TWGOK has a dub now? wow time to check it out xD

(Already seen both seasons)
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
mcimba42
Profile Joined October 2011
192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 08:27:51
May 01 2012 07:55 GMT
#40974
Which chapters does season 2 cover? Does it get into the goddess arc at all? Or is it just other conquests + some filler?
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
May 01 2012 07:57 GMT
#40975
The last one it covers is the student teacher arc, idk about chapter =/
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 08:29:58
May 01 2012 08:14 GMT
#40976
Got to watch second ep of Hyouka.

+ Show Spoiler +
Holy shit Chitanda is a pain. If she goes insane or something it'd be awesome considering her behaviour but I really doubt that it will happen. D: At least second ep was significantly better so I'll keep watching.


Edit:

Cannot wait for this. One of the few cute things I can say with a straight face that I find to be really amusing awesome..


#freeshauni
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 08:48:04
May 01 2012 08:28 GMT
#40977
On May 01 2012 16:44 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
TWGOK has a dub now? wow time to check it out xD

(Already seen both seasons)


I'll definitely rewatch the APM episode lol.

Don't really watch much anime, but does anyone else find the visual quality of AKB0048 to be pretty good?
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
May 01 2012 11:05 GMT
#40978
clannad ending, wow shit wat fuck huh damn ;..;
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Dullahan
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States248 Posts
May 01 2012 12:31 GMT
#40979
lol, welcome to Key's what-is-this-I-don't-even magic
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
May 01 2012 12:54 GMT
#40980
On May 01 2012 21:31 Dullahan wrote:
lol, welcome to Key's what-is-this-I-don't-even magic
Every time you think you're up to their scheme, and that everything will be fine. You carefully read through it as you approach what you feel is the end of it all.

THEN THEY JUST STRIKE YOU DOWN WITHOUT MERCY.

;_;

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