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mcimba42
Profile Joined October 2011
192 Posts
April 30 2012 19:45 GMT
#40941
On May 01 2012 04:24 SheaR619 wrote:
What I dont understand is why she even likes him considering that he has nothing good about him + Show Spoiler +
(cant really remember the episode, she did semi confess to him right)
. He has no charm, hasnt done anything interersting for anyone to take notice in him. It seem to me like Chiyu just has a fetish for thick boys....possibly.

I guess it's easier for most anime fans to self insert now though.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 20:10:06
April 30 2012 19:55 GMT
#40942
On May 01 2012 00:02 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 23:39 Nagisama wrote:
On April 30 2012 17:06 KazeHydra wrote:
Also
Hanazawa will play Ichiko Sakura, a girl whose blissful life comes from her bountiful "happiness energy" — gained by sapping that energy from other people.

lol happiness energy sounds like something that really fits her typical moe voice. Maybe Kana Hanazawa is actually a soul eating demon?! Run away Nagi, it's a trap!

LOL what show is this?

Binbougami ga! Airs this summer.

Ooo interesting.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]:D


AKB0048 was surprisingly entertaining.
+ Show Spoiler +
I kept thinking at first it was only about Earth, but they keep mentioning it the possibility of other planets. Insert/ED at the end was pretty good with what was happening. Chasing a rocket bound for orbit with your unicycle bike/running was funny to watch.

Whatever, anti-idol missiles are cool!
[image loading]


On May 01 2012 04:24 SheaR619 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 04:14 Emnjay808 wrote:
Chiyuri World 04:

If you can look past the shitty alternate world, and its shitty rules and logic, and focus more on the "school life" aspect, then this anime isnt half bad.

The "love triangle" between Chiyu, Kuroyuki, and Haru is pretty entertaining. + Show Spoiler +
The part where Kuroyuki acts all upset cause she found out that Haru really did direct link with Chiyu was golden.


At least in this anime the MC isnt braindead dense, he just really isnt that good looking so he has very low self esteem. Finally a good reason. Most other fcking anime, you would see the MC all chiseled and skinny and shit, with their big stylish japanese hair. Then when they got chicks all over their dick, they act all dense as fck. Kinda pisses me off sometimes but I learned to get used to it.

The background music is pretty good too I guess. It adds more to the "school life" banter parts.

Also when I checked MAL and saw that it was 24 eps.... Ya... DA FCK?! How the hell are they gonna stretch this shit out for 24 eps? Jesus christ, wtf is Sunrise thinking?

Anyways, Chiyu-service is the only real reason to watch this anime:
+ Show Spoiler [NSFWish image] +
[image loading]
I have a soft spot for dem short-haired childhoold friends. INB4 DEATHFLAG.



The series is based off of a light novel that is up to like 10+ volume or almost 10 volume so it possible to make it into 24 episode. If they drag it on with school life stuff it possible.

What I dont understand is why she even likes him considering that he has nothing good about him + Show Spoiler +
(cant really remember the episode, she did semi confess to him right)
. He has no charm, hasnt done anything interersting for anyone to take notice in him. It seem to me like Chiyu just has a fetish for thick boys....possibly.

Accel World
+ Show Spoiler +
Childhood friends always fall in love with protag, regardless of circumstances/parameters! :D
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 20:20:03
April 30 2012 20:19 GMT
#40943
On May 01 2012 04:14 Emnjay808 wrote:
Chiyuri World 04:

If you can look past the shitty alternate world, and its shitty rules and logic, and focus more on the "school life" aspect, then this anime isnt half bad.

The "love triangle" between Chiyu, Kuroyuki, and Haru is pretty entertaining. + Show Spoiler +
The part where Kuroyuki acts all upset cause she found out that Haru really did direct link with Chiyu was golden.


At least in this anime the MC isnt braindead dense, he just really isnt that good looking so he has very low self esteem. Finally a good reason. Most other fcking anime, you would see the MC all chiseled and skinny and shit, with their big stylish japanese hair. Then when they got chicks all over their dick, they act all dense as fck. Kinda pisses me off sometimes but I learned to get used to it.

The background music is pretty good too I guess. It adds more to the "school life" banter parts.

Also when I checked MAL and saw that it was 24 eps.... Ya... DA FCK?! How the hell are they gonna stretch this shit out for 24 eps? Jesus christ, wtf is Sunrise thinking?

Anyways, Chiyu-service is the only real reason to watch this anime:
+ Show Spoiler [NSFWish image] +
[image loading]
I have a soft spot for dem short-haired childhoold friends. INB4 DEATHFLAG.


Must be in Bizzaro world or something... The only good part of this anime is the alternate world and things concerning that, lol
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 20:22:34
April 30 2012 20:21 GMT
#40944
On May 01 2012 05:19 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 04:14 Emnjay808 wrote:
Chiyuri World 04:

If you can look past the shitty alternate world, and its shitty rules and logic, and focus more on the "school life" aspect, then this anime isnt half bad.

The "love triangle" between Chiyu, Kuroyuki, and Haru is pretty entertaining. + Show Spoiler +
The part where Kuroyuki acts all upset cause she found out that Haru really did direct link with Chiyu was golden.


At least in this anime the MC isnt braindead dense, he just really isnt that good looking so he has very low self esteem. Finally a good reason. Most other fcking anime, you would see the MC all chiseled and skinny and shit, with their big stylish japanese hair. Then when they got chicks all over their dick, they act all dense as fck. Kinda pisses me off sometimes but I learned to get used to it.

The background music is pretty good too I guess. It adds more to the "school life" banter parts.

Also when I checked MAL and saw that it was 24 eps.... Ya... DA FCK?! How the hell are they gonna stretch this shit out for 24 eps? Jesus christ, wtf is Sunrise thinking?

Anyways, Chiyu-service is the only real reason to watch this anime:
+ Show Spoiler [NSFWish image] +
[image loading]
I have a soft spot for dem short-haired childhoold friends. INB4 DEATHFLAG.


Must be in Bizzaro world or something... The only good part of this anime is the alternate world and things concerning that, lol

Not sure if you were in irc when I quoted him and said how he managed to single out the only part of the anime that can go well and call it bad.

About AW -
16:16 nagisama harems make moar money
16:16 nagisama selling those dakimakuras
16:16 ecael essentially, since easier to have additional goods, it is better to have harem and things catchy to eye
16:17 ecael and since harem then weak and dense protagonist
16:17 ecael AW took it from the other way around and just say, here is a fat otaku for you to identify yourself to, since you get to identify to him we'll just say fuck it w/ excuses and give him a harem
16:17 ecael oh need action
16:17 ecael well here is an alternative world where he is cool and stronk


On May 01 2012 04:24 SheaR619 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 04:14 Emnjay808 wrote:
Chiyuri World 04:

If you can look past the shitty alternate world, and its shitty rules and logic, and focus more on the "school life" aspect, then this anime isnt half bad.

The "love triangle" between Chiyu, Kuroyuki, and Haru is pretty entertaining. + Show Spoiler +
The part where Kuroyuki acts all upset cause she found out that Haru really did direct link with Chiyu was golden.


At least in this anime the MC isnt braindead dense, he just really isnt that good looking so he has very low self esteem. Finally a good reason. Most other fcking anime, you would see the MC all chiseled and skinny and shit, with their big stylish japanese hair. Then when they got chicks all over their dick, they act all dense as fck. Kinda pisses me off sometimes but I learned to get used to it.

The background music is pretty good too I guess. It adds more to the "school life" banter parts.

Also when I checked MAL and saw that it was 24 eps.... Ya... DA FCK?! How the hell are they gonna stretch this shit out for 24 eps? Jesus christ, wtf is Sunrise thinking?

Anyways, Chiyu-service is the only real reason to watch this anime:
+ Show Spoiler [NSFWish image] +
[image loading]
I have a soft spot for dem short-haired childhoold friends. INB4 DEATHFLAG.



The series is based off of a light novel that is up to like 10+ volume or almost 10 volume so it possible to make it into 24 episode. If they drag it on with school life stuff it possible.

What I dont understand is why she even likes him considering that he has nothing good about him + Show Spoiler +
(cant really remember the episode, she did semi confess to him right)
. He has no charm, hasnt done anything interersting for anyone to take notice in him. It seem to me like Chiyu just has a fetish for thick boys....possibly.

Doesn't take 10 vols to do 24ep, takes more like 4.
Ushio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada868 Posts
April 30 2012 20:28 GMT
#40945
On April 30 2012 21:43 Dullahan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 18:27 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 18:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:

On April 30 2012 14:39 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:32 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:29 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:16 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:


On April 30 2012 14:10 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 12:53 Dullahan wrote:


Very much agreed about Clannad, I think one of the big reasons I liked the anime so much was how well they managed to incorporate all the different routes.
No. You have no soul.


I didn't play the VN, and I heard a lot was left out (how much exactly? probably not too much, or were the different routes actually fleshed out that far past just dating?) but it's nice to hear that :D

I tried to watch Kanon (watched like 13 episodes or so on request of friend, claiming it was great) but I got bored... the arcs weren't smooth, but in Clannad they did a good job focusing on each arc while also developing the other characters and plot etc.
In all seriousness, when you've both watched the anime and read the VN it feels like that your feelings about the anime depends on which characters you liked in the VN. I for one really disliked Nagisa so the anime ends up really meh to me, especially as my fave heroine (Kotomi) has her route violently raped and then fed to the dogs, with no chance of being saved. I feel like I'm the only person that really liked Kotomi though, lol. Just get a lot of hate from people when I mention her, especially from people who only watched the anime.


Wait whoa whoa that is seriously what happens in the kotomi route? i didn't know a romance/drama could be so... cruel? or is that just one of her endings?

Also, I also didn't like Nagisa that much, though I didn't play the VN. In the anime I liked tomoyo the most, so I was quite disappointed to see no "arc" for her. How much of the game, would you say, is Nagisa compared to each of the other heroines?

I, having only watched the anime, will say that I liked Kotomi too ^^. Sunohara was the best though ! kekek
I didn't mean literally...it was figuratively speaking. >_> Though what they did was about as bad.

In the VN Nagisa is still the main heroine and she usually plays a part in other routes (for no reason at all, seriously fuck her can't she gtfo she just pisses me off lol) but the other ones actually don't get hella friendzoned in their routes (obviously) and they cut out a lot of things,even a whole route though it wasn't really relevant to the main plot anyway. It's obvious why they did it but still sucks.


Oh, rofl kk xD

Hm, what is this route that wasn't in the anime?

Is it possibly... + Show Spoiler +
The sunohara ending? xD. Or I'm guessing there is an imouto route?



No imouto route. It's technically one, but at the same time not at all. Sumohara ending is a bit...different. There are a lot of small details. You should give the VN a try if you enjoyed the anime, it's far better imo (though that's the case with most VNs that have an anime attached to them)


There's a side character (doesn't show up at all in the anime) that gets his own route where he pairs up with Ryou



The Hiiragi Kappei route was one of the best ones imo, I found myself crying like a bitch alot more in the VN than the anime
http://myanimelist.net/profile/billng
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
April 30 2012 20:31 GMT
#40946
On May 01 2012 05:28 Ushio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 21:43 Dullahan wrote:
On April 30 2012 18:27 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 18:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:

On April 30 2012 14:39 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:32 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:29 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:16 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:


On April 30 2012 14:10 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 12:53 Dullahan wrote:


Very much agreed about Clannad, I think one of the big reasons I liked the anime so much was how well they managed to incorporate all the different routes.
No. You have no soul.


I didn't play the VN, and I heard a lot was left out (how much exactly? probably not too much, or were the different routes actually fleshed out that far past just dating?) but it's nice to hear that :D

I tried to watch Kanon (watched like 13 episodes or so on request of friend, claiming it was great) but I got bored... the arcs weren't smooth, but in Clannad they did a good job focusing on each arc while also developing the other characters and plot etc.
In all seriousness, when you've both watched the anime and read the VN it feels like that your feelings about the anime depends on which characters you liked in the VN. I for one really disliked Nagisa so the anime ends up really meh to me, especially as my fave heroine (Kotomi) has her route violently raped and then fed to the dogs, with no chance of being saved. I feel like I'm the only person that really liked Kotomi though, lol. Just get a lot of hate from people when I mention her, especially from people who only watched the anime.


Wait whoa whoa that is seriously what happens in the kotomi route? i didn't know a romance/drama could be so... cruel? or is that just one of her endings?

Also, I also didn't like Nagisa that much, though I didn't play the VN. In the anime I liked tomoyo the most, so I was quite disappointed to see no "arc" for her. How much of the game, would you say, is Nagisa compared to each of the other heroines?

I, having only watched the anime, will say that I liked Kotomi too ^^. Sunohara was the best though ! kekek
I didn't mean literally...it was figuratively speaking. >_> Though what they did was about as bad.

In the VN Nagisa is still the main heroine and she usually plays a part in other routes (for no reason at all, seriously fuck her can't she gtfo she just pisses me off lol) but the other ones actually don't get hella friendzoned in their routes (obviously) and they cut out a lot of things,even a whole route though it wasn't really relevant to the main plot anyway. It's obvious why they did it but still sucks.


Oh, rofl kk xD

Hm, what is this route that wasn't in the anime?

Is it possibly... + Show Spoiler +
The sunohara ending? xD. Or I'm guessing there is an imouto route?



No imouto route. It's technically one, but at the same time not at all. Sumohara ending is a bit...different. There are a lot of small details. You should give the VN a try if you enjoyed the anime, it's far better imo (though that's the case with most VNs that have an anime attached to them)


There's a side character (doesn't show up at all in the anime) that gets his own route where he pairs up with Ryou



The Hiiragi Kappei route was one of the best ones imo, I found myself crying like a bitch alot more in the VN than the anime

That was one of the weakest routes to me, felt like they just needed to make the whole kyou-ryou routes even more kdrama like and completely lost focus of the VN as a whole.
mcimba42
Profile Joined October 2011
192 Posts
April 30 2012 20:50 GMT
#40947
Hm, I keep hearing great things about the Clannad VN, but is it typical KEY "hey here are some cute girls, now look as every terrible tragedy that could happen to them happens at the same time, are you depressed yet?" stuff? I feel like I'm some sort of heartless bastard, but I could never really feel any lasting emotional impact from reading stuff like that.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 22:07:45
April 30 2012 21:58 GMT
#40948
On April 30 2012 21:43 Dullahan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 18:27 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 18:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:

On April 30 2012 14:39 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:32 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:29 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:16 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:


On April 30 2012 14:10 Elem wrote:
On April 30 2012 12:53 Dullahan wrote:


Very much agreed about Clannad, I think one of the big reasons I liked the anime so much was how well they managed to incorporate all the different routes.
No. You have no soul.


I didn't play the VN, and I heard a lot was left out (how much exactly? probably not too much, or were the different routes actually fleshed out that far past just dating?) but it's nice to hear that :D

I tried to watch Kanon (watched like 13 episodes or so on request of friend, claiming it was great) but I got bored... the arcs weren't smooth, but in Clannad they did a good job focusing on each arc while also developing the other characters and plot etc.
In all seriousness, when you've both watched the anime and read the VN it feels like that your feelings about the anime depends on which characters you liked in the VN. I for one really disliked Nagisa so the anime ends up really meh to me, especially as my fave heroine (Kotomi) has her route violently raped and then fed to the dogs, with no chance of being saved. I feel like I'm the only person that really liked Kotomi though, lol. Just get a lot of hate from people when I mention her, especially from people who only watched the anime.


Wait whoa whoa that is seriously what happens in the kotomi route? i didn't know a romance/drama could be so... cruel? or is that just one of her endings?

Also, I also didn't like Nagisa that much, though I didn't play the VN. In the anime I liked tomoyo the most, so I was quite disappointed to see no "arc" for her. How much of the game, would you say, is Nagisa compared to each of the other heroines?

I, having only watched the anime, will say that I liked Kotomi too ^^. Sunohara was the best though ! kekek
I didn't mean literally...it was figuratively speaking. >_> Though what they did was about as bad.

In the VN Nagisa is still the main heroine and she usually plays a part in other routes (for no reason at all, seriously fuck her can't she gtfo she just pisses me off lol) but the other ones actually don't get hella friendzoned in their routes (obviously) and they cut out a lot of things,even a whole route though it wasn't really relevant to the main plot anyway. It's obvious why they did it but still sucks.


Oh, rofl kk xD

Hm, what is this route that wasn't in the anime?

Is it possibly... + Show Spoiler +
The sunohara ending? xD. Or I'm guessing there is an imouto route?



No imouto route. It's technically one, but at the same time not at all. Sumohara ending is a bit...different. There are a lot of small details. You should give the VN a try if you enjoyed the anime, it's far better imo (though that's the case with most VNs that have an anime attached to them)


There's a side character (doesn't show up at all in the anime) that gets his own route where he pairs up with Ryou


Wait, you play as a male side character ? o.o interesting
Well, I guess that's the obvious reason why it wasn't in the show now xD


On May 01 2012 05:50 mcimba42 wrote:
Hm, I keep hearing great things about the Clannad VN, but is it typical KEY "hey here are some cute girls, now look as every terrible tragedy that could happen to them happens at the same time, are you depressed yet?" stuff? I feel like I'm some sort of heartless bastard, but I could never really feel any lasting emotional impact from reading stuff like that.


Have you seen the anime? Obviously, since VN and anime can give quite different experiences, I think I would recommend the anime. But i'm more of an animation dude. And KyoAni is so fucking good at animation xD. The emotions in the show are expressed exceptionally, which of course, is good since it's largely drama.

I've heard that the VN is "better", but that's usually the same with all kinds of media that come first, and again I'm not much of a VN player so our preferences may differ, but I think it would be better to watch the anime then play the VN since the VN has more than the anime, rather than playing the more expansive VN then watching a limited anime version of it.

Also the anime's tearjerkers got me ;( first anime where I actually teared up. I'm not sure if the VN is capable of that.

So I guess I'm just saying basically that I prefer things to be more theatrical; i'm less of a reader.


On May 01 2012 03:03 mcimba42 wrote:
Holy fucking shit, I'm sorry for bringing up the CG discussion. I had no idea people cared so much about it. Jesus.


Oops don't worry about it... I think I was actually the first to say Code Geass was a masterpiece (or at least in these recent pages). That was a mix of me expressing that it is one of my favorite shows and was a slight exaggeration to show how much I loved it. It wasn't a very good nor productive assertion or argument for me to make since, compared to probably many here, I've watched a lot less anime.

About Hyouka
Holy shit the animation quality is so good as usual. Yeah sure they're not moving much, but it's such fun to just watch. Now it's getting somewhere interesting with that cliff hanger. I wonder how good it can get, it's only 2 episodes in out of 21, and the novel it's based on apparently won numerous awards.

Particularly, I was amazed at the scene in the first episode when the male MC met the female MC. The camera angle being able to rotate so smoothly was amazing. Usually that kind of a scene will turn out awkward or choppy with the low fps of most anime. However, it looks like the background might have been CG? I honestly can't tell. If it's CG, I applaud them for being able to blend it in so well with the 2D parts. If it is 2D, then wooow. Because having to draw all those background details in motion must take a while.

Again in episode 2, all the settings/places look quite realistic. I'm wondering if they actually drew all that or just took photos of places and edited it a bit (like making it blurry) to make it look realistic but too much that it feels unfitting for a fiction story. xD


On April 30 2012 19:30 Sentenal wrote:
Look dude, way back here, you said:
Show nested quote +
Also, I'm sure I'm not the minority here thinking Code Geass is a top tier anime cus if you check its ratings on sites like ANN, it is rated very high. Same with a lot of reviews.
This is the beginning.
Later, you go on to say
Show nested quote +
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.

and later again,
Show nested quote +
Well I'd have to disagree, and the majority of viewers do as well, according to many anime websites and reviews.

These are clearly an "appeal to the majority", as if that somehow justified your [then] position that Geass is a masterpiece. It is essentially saying, "Well, everyone else believes it, so it must be true". It is a fallacy. Hence my many objections. If you don't believe those statements to be an appeal to the majority, then wtf did you even bring up the "majority" for?

In the case of my mention of sales numbers, it was in direct to your statement that "The majority of viewers disagree those shows [gundam, mazinger, etc] are better". That was making the statement, "Code Geass is more popular than those shows" (because if more people like something more than another thing, that necessarily makes it more popular, because that's what popular means). And Geass is not, this is a fact. The flow of discussion is clear, just go back, look at what was quoted, and what was said in response. While popularity is not a measure of quality, does that mean I'm unable to comment entirely on something's popularity vs another's?


CG discussion spoilered so as to stop bothering other people xD
+ Show Spoiler +
Well, I said
"Majority of Code Geass viewers" means viewers who watched Code Geass.
"though Code Geass was good" means they thought it was good, not bad.

Please stop changing what I am saying. Also, to clear up, I was saying that simply to express my surprise that the opinion that Code Geass was good was relatively, in my experiences, uncommon and looked down upon here.

Uh, the second paragraph, noooo. How do those things even link together?
"Majority of Code Geass viewers" means viewers who watched Code Geass.
"though Code Geass was good" means they thought it was good, not bad.

I did not, anywhere, make the comparison that majority of viewers (of code geass or in general?) think Code Geass is better than those. Hence, you are wrong about the popular thing again. Again, I brought up those numbers simply to try to persuade you into my belief that you are in the minority to think that Code Geass was bad in the literal sense. I did not bring up those numbers to say that Code Geass was better. So, I am definitely not trying to go by that line of logical fallacy that you have presented.

Ok, now I see. The problem here seems to be that you are using the word popular in the way to mean that it is liked a lot. I'm using popular as to regarding how many people have watched a show. So this hopefully should clear up a lot.

Well I wouldn't say you are unable to, but with the old masterpiece/good argument, popularity doesn't mean quality because something like Naruto is very popular (though it is also widely disliked) but is not "critically good" in the sense that a masterpiece should be. And I'm still not understanding why you kept claiming I was saying Code Geass was popular and hence, a masterpiece, when I stated many times that popularity is not quality. So the part about us using the word "popular" in different ways doesn't even justify that. The discussion did not flow clearly to me, and with this clearing up of the word "popular" hopefully we can get out of this ditch of a discussion. It might have felt that way to you, but I would like you to keep that in mind as well.

Ok, so let's talk about Code Geass vs other anime, mecha or not. Can you back it up that Code Geass is, by fact, less popular? Not that it has anything to do with "quality" in the kind of "critical acclaim" but only in the sense that it may show a show is liked more or less.

Though, I'm not sure if we want to even talk about popularity because
Popularity is pointless.

I'd be happy to not have use such arguments, since popular opinion is meaningless in discussions on how good something is, but if you want to use it, then so be it.

"Majority opinion" or "reviews and ratings on anime sites" don't mean anything at all to me.

And yet you say
Japanese sales numbers and ratings are the best indicators

You think Code Geass is more popular that Mobile Suit Gundam, an anime franchise that has been going strong for over 30 years, is a cultural icon in Japan? Why don't you check out some of the sales numbers for Gundam Unicorn, or Gundam SEED HD Remaster?

In 2004, Bandai announced the SEED DVDs had sold 1 million copies of it in Japan. Volume 1 alone sold over 100,000 copies. This means that, for volume 1 at least, 8 years ago, 100,000 people liked Gundam SEED enough to spend money on it (not to mention that shit is expensive in Japan).

So in some parts you seem to be saying popularity is pointless, but then you use popularity in terms of how many sales there are, even though Code Geass has sold 900,000 copies, which is quite close to 1 million?

Back to my belief that people who think Code Geass are in the minority; comparatively, Code Geass sold ~90% of what Gundam SEED has, which you seem to say is good in your blog (both in the critical sense and just entertainment factor?). You say that the sales mean that people like a show enough and thus spend money on it. Now, this doesn't necessarily mean 100% of buyers thought the show was good in a critical sense, and I believe you were using these numbers to show that Code Geass is not more popular, as you have stated before. However, comparatively, if you go just by sales alone, I could say that Code Geass is 90% as popular as SEED. When you explained why you didn't think Code Geass was, overall, good, you mentioned things along the lines of it being solid in the first season but just a disappointing mess in the second season because, I believe, you were bothered by the deus ex machina plot like the Sword of Akasha and other things that weren't done as well as in the first season. This leads me to think that you are saying CG is bad and disappointing in a critical sense. (I'm not sure if you would say it's good just for entertainment value, but let's leave that aside as it's not relevant to this exact moment). However, if you are saying CG is bad in a critical sense, and that you are using sales stats to compare popularity between shows, do you not then, think that you are in a minority (or at least at odds) regarding if CG was good in the sense of whether it delivered entertainment or not?

Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 23:10:20
April 30 2012 22:22 GMT
#40949
Code Geass sold ~90% of what Gundam SEED has


That was what SEED sold in it's first WEEK of release in japan.

SEED is easily the most popular anime that's come out in the last 15 years. It singlehandedly revived the entire anime industry.
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
April 30 2012 23:11 GMT
#40950
+ Show Spoiler [Gundam AGE 29] +

Wow the OP/ED basically tell who is going to die/live and that his Dad is going to come back as A)some kind of enemy B)come back so he can DIE, also LOL so much innuendo with Flit sitting behind Kio ah man too funny. This Season is probably going to be the best.
Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 23:17:33
April 30 2012 23:15 GMT
#40951
On May 01 2012 05:50 mcimba42 wrote:
Hm, I keep hearing great things about the Clannad VN, but is it typical KEY "hey here are some cute girls, now look as every terrible tragedy that could happen to them happens at the same time, are you depressed yet?" stuff? I feel like I'm some sort of heartless bastard, but I could never really feel any lasting emotional impact from reading stuff like that.

That's before Clannad, since Clannad and LB isn't like that except for a few individuals routes. Tomoyo after was a bit whack but not quite like that, and RW is a different type of thing entirely with Key taking in new blood. That said, some people just don't give a damn about that, so don't see what's wrong with it.

Actually some people can argue that a certain route in RW is basically Rin1 for 3+ hours, that might qualify.
mcimba42
Profile Joined October 2011
192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 23:42:24
April 30 2012 23:34 GMT
#40952
On May 01 2012 07:22 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
Code Geass sold ~90% of what Gundam SEED has


That was what SEED sold in it's first WEEK of release in japan.

SEED is easily the most popular anime that's come out in the last 15 years. It singlehandedly revived the entire anime industry.

That's because Jesus Yamato is an amazing character who could have very well been part of any of Chekhov's award winning novels.

+ Show Spoiler +
It's actually because of the pretty mechas. I forgot sarcasm doesn't do so well in this thread.
Leftwing
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada229 Posts
May 01 2012 00:01 GMT
#40953
On May 01 2012 08:11 Monokeros wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Gundam AGE 29] +

Wow the OP/ED basically tell who is going to die/live and that his Dad is going to come back as A)some kind of enemy B)come back so he can DIE, also LOL so much innuendo with Flit sitting behind Kio ah man too funny. This Season is probably going to be the best.


Last was waaaayyy better in my opinion, + Show Spoiler +
I don't like Kio for some reason and they just had to rush Aseumo's "death"... LOL
.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 01 2012 00:33 GMT
#40954
On May 01 2012 08:11 Monokeros wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Gundam AGE 29] +

Wow the OP/ED basically tell who is going to die/live and that his Dad is going to come back as A)some kind of enemy B)come back so he can DIE, also LOL so much innuendo with Flit sitting behind Kio ah man too funny. This Season is probably going to be the best.

+ Show Spoiler +
What, hes gonna come back as Crossbone Age-2, as a Pirate and be a complete badass and end the war.


On May 01 2012 08:34 mcimba42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 07:22 Kaal wrote:
Code Geass sold ~90% of what Gundam SEED has


That was what SEED sold in it's first WEEK of release in japan.

SEED is easily the most popular anime that's come out in the last 15 years. It singlehandedly revived the entire anime industry.

That's because Jesus Yamato is an amazing character who could have very well been part of any of Chekhov's award winning novels.

+ Show Spoiler +
It's actually because of the pretty mechas. I forgot sarcasm doesn't do so well in this thread.

If anything, its actually because of the fujoshi lol
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 01:03:54
May 01 2012 01:03 GMT
#40955
On May 01 2012 07:22 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
Code Geass sold ~90% of what Gundam SEED has


That was what SEED sold in it's first WEEK of release in japan.

SEED is easily the most popular anime that's come out in the last 15 years. It singlehandedly revived the entire anime industry.


Well actually wiki says:

In April 2004, Bandai Visual announced that one million copies of the Gundam SEED DVD had been sold in Japan, with the first volume having sold over 100,000 copies.


The series ended in september 2003, so that's ~7 months after. If you look at Code Geass,

By August 2008, over 900,000 Code Geass discs have been sold in Japan.


That's 1 year after season 1 but 1 month before R2 finished airing. Both series are about ~50 episodes so in terms of sales, it seems like Code Geass has the stronger numbers there?


Anyways, me and Sentenal have cleared things up, there were some silly misconceptions which had a snowball effect but now everything's good xD I think everyone should just ignore the majority of our posts since it would take quite a long time to see what went wrong especially if you want to try to dissect our actual opinions from them.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Leftwing
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 01:52:37
May 01 2012 01:50 GMT
#40956
On May 01 2012 10:03 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 07:22 Kaal wrote:
Code Geass sold ~90% of what Gundam SEED has


That was what SEED sold in it's first WEEK of release in japan.

SEED is easily the most popular anime that's come out in the last 15 years. It singlehandedly revived the entire anime industry.


Well actually wiki says:

Show nested quote +
In April 2004, Bandai Visual announced that one million copies of the Gundam SEED DVD had been sold in Japan, with the first volume having sold over 100,000 copies.


The series ended in september 2003, so that's ~7 months after. If you look at Code Geass,

Show nested quote +
By August 2008, over 900,000 Code Geass discs have been sold in Japan.


That's 1 year after season 1 but 1 month before R2 finished airing. Both series are about ~50 episodes so in terms of sales, it seems like Code Geass has the stronger numbers there?


Anyways, me and Sentenal have cleared things up, there were some silly misconceptions which had a snowball effect but now everything's good xD I think everyone should just ignore the majority of our posts since it would take quite a long time to see what went wrong especially if you want to try to dissect our actual opinions from them.


Whoops, read that wrong.

Anyways, to argue the points mentioned previously: CG may have sold more DVDs than Seed, however in terms of merchandise (fucking gundams!!) Seed has probably earned 10 fold what CG made off of DVD sales. Also Seed revived Anime, without Seed would CG even have existed? Could Sunrise have afforded to produce it?
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 02:07:08
May 01 2012 02:06 GMT
#40957
On May 01 2012 10:03 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 07:22 Kaal wrote:
Code Geass sold ~90% of what Gundam SEED has


That was what SEED sold in it's first WEEK of release in japan.

SEED is easily the most popular anime that's come out in the last 15 years. It singlehandedly revived the entire anime industry.


Well actually wiki says:

Show nested quote +
In April 2004, Bandai Visual announced that one million copies of the Gundam SEED DVD had been sold in Japan, with the first volume having sold over 100,000 copies.


The series ended in september 2003, so that's ~7 months after. If you look at Code Geass,

Show nested quote +
By August 2008, over 900,000 Code Geass discs have been sold in Japan.


That's 1 year after season 1 but 1 month before R2 finished airing. Both series are about ~50 episodes so in terms of sales, it seems like Code Geass has the stronger numbers there?


Anyways, me and Sentenal have cleared things up, there were some silly misconceptions which had a snowball effect but now everything's good xD I think everyone should just ignore the majority of our posts since it would take quite a long time to see what went wrong especially if you want to try to dissect our actual opinions from them.


Based wikipedia. Here's an actual sales chart. Number in parentheses is excluding BD-release, no idea why its there.



01)  *78,671  ¥3,558m  15 ep  2009  Shaft__________  Aniplex______  Bakemonogatari
02)  *71,057  ¥3,069m  12 ep  2011  Shaft__________  Aniplex______  Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica
03)  *68,734  ¥5,629m  50 ep  2004  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED Destiny
04)  *58,589  ¥4,798m  50 ep  2002  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED
05)  *50,551 (45,366)  ¥2,673m  25 ep  2006  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch
06)  *50,103  ¥1,999m  13 ep  2011  ufotable_______  Aniplex______  Fate/Zero ★(box/cour 1)
07)  *46,146  ¥2,705m  25 ep  2008  Satelight______  Bandai_______  Macross Frontier
08)  *43,883  ¥2,309m  14 ep  2009  Kyoto Animation  Pony Canyon__  K-ON!
09)  *42,690  ¥2,370m  25 ep  2008  Sunrise________  Bandai_______  Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch R2
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
May 01 2012 02:15 GMT
#40958
On May 01 2012 03:03 mcimba42 wrote:
Holy fucking shit, I'm sorry for bringing up the CG discussion. I had no idea people cared so much about it. Jesus.

Welcome to TLADT. n_n

Is Sentenal including SEED Destiny with SEED? Nice to see that Madoka sold so much~
BW for life | Fantasy, MMA, SlayerS_Boxer | Taengoo! n_n | "Lelouch vi Britannia commands you! Obey me, subjects! OBEY ME, WORLD!" | <3 Emi
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 01 2012 02:16 GMT
#40959
Alright, seriously? This has gone past shitstorm and into something else. Take it to PMs or something, imo.
It's your boy Guzma!
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
May 01 2012 02:18 GMT
#40960
On May 01 2012 11:15 NationInArms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 03:03 mcimba42 wrote:
Holy fucking shit, I'm sorry for bringing up the CG discussion. I had no idea people cared so much about it. Jesus.

Welcome to TLADT. n_n

Is Sentenal including SEED Destiny with SEED? Nice to see that Madoka sold so much~


I agree, Madoka was really good IMO.
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