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On April 30 2012 18:27 Elem wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 18:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On April 30 2012 14:39 Elem wrote:On April 30 2012 14:32 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On April 30 2012 14:29 Elem wrote:On April 30 2012 14:16 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On April 30 2012 14:10 Elem wrote:On April 30 2012 12:53 Dullahan wrote:
Very much agreed about Clannad, I think one of the big reasons I liked the anime so much was how well they managed to incorporate all the different routes. No. You have no soul. I didn't play the VN, and I heard a lot was left out (how much exactly? probably not too much, or were the different routes actually fleshed out that far past just dating?) but it's nice to hear that :D I tried to watch Kanon (watched like 13 episodes or so on request of friend, claiming it was great) but I got bored... the arcs weren't smooth, but in Clannad they did a good job focusing on each arc while also developing the other characters and plot etc. In all seriousness, when you've both watched the anime and read the VN it feels like that your feelings about the anime depends on which characters you liked in the VN. I for one really disliked Nagisa so the anime ends up really meh to me, especially as my fave heroine (Kotomi) has her route violently raped and then fed to the dogs, with no chance of being saved. I feel like I'm the only person that really liked Kotomi though, lol. Just get a lot of hate from people when I mention her, especially from people who only watched the anime.  Wait whoa whoa that is seriously what happens in the kotomi route? i didn't know a romance/drama could be so... cruel? or is that just one of her endings? Also, I also didn't like Nagisa that much, though I didn't play the VN. In the anime I liked tomoyo the most, so I was quite disappointed to see no "arc" for her. How much of the game, would you say, is Nagisa compared to each of the other heroines? I, having only watched the anime, will say that I liked Kotomi too ^^. Sunohara was the best though ! kekek I didn't mean literally...it was figuratively speaking. >_> Though what they did was about as bad. In the VN Nagisa is still the main heroine and she usually plays a part in other routes (for no reason at all, seriously fuck her can't she gtfo she just pisses me off lol) but the other ones actually don't get hella friendzoned in their routes (obviously) and they cut out a lot of things,even a whole route though it wasn't really relevant to the main plot anyway. It's obvious why they did it but still sucks. Oh, rofl kk xD Hm, what is this route that wasn't in the anime? Is it possibly... + Show Spoiler +The sunohara ending? xD. Or I'm guessing there is an imouto route? No imouto route. It's technically one, but at the same time not at all. Sumohara ending is a bit...different. There are a lot of small details. You should give the VN a try if you enjoyed the anime, it's far better imo (though that's the case with most VNs that have an anime attached to them)
There's a side character (doesn't show up at all in the anime) that gets his own route where he pairs up with Ryou
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On November 25 2011 04:04 Ferrose wrote:
Oh my God you people need to get over yourselves. You "intellectual anime viewers" sicken me. Not being able to enjoy good shows becuase it's "a slap in the face to my intellegence as a learned anime viewer" is the most pretentious and ridiculous thing I've ever read.
Don't know what you're talking about Ferrose, but I watched K-ON intellectually.
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I thought gundam was pretty influential since they made a life-sized model of rx-78-2 and put it on display in Odaiba for a year or two. Haven't seen any knightmare frames there yet though.
On April 30 2012 17:06 KazeHydra wrote:Also Show nested quote +Hanazawa will play Ichiko Sakura, a girl whose blissful life comes from her bountiful "happiness energy" — gained by sapping that energy from other people. lol happiness energy sounds like something that really fits her typical moe voice. Maybe Kana Hanazawa is actually a soul eating demon?! Run away Nagi, it's a trap!
LOL what show is this?
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On April 30 2012 22:03 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 04:04 Ferrose wrote:
Oh my God you people need to get over yourselves. You "intellectual anime viewers" sicken me. Not being able to enjoy good shows becuase it's "a slap in the face to my intellegence as a learned anime viewer" is the most pretentious and ridiculous thing I've ever read. Don't know what you're talking about Ferrose, but I watched K-ON intellectually.
Yea me too !
I dropped it right after the 2nd episode ..... I think that was the most intellectual thing i did with K-ON.
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Clearly you didn't allow a masterpiece to unfold itself. Intellectual anime viewers really have a knack for picking out well fleshed out characters and a one in a life time storyline.
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On April 30 2012 21:14 Maxie wrote:
I honestly believe that whether something is a masterpiece or not is subjective. There's no way you can end this discussion peacefully, unless you just agree to disagree.
Although there's always going to be subjectivity, I think there is a much larger degree of objectivity there when discussing whether something is a masterpiece. Yoshi has retracted his statement that CG is a masterpiece so that part of the argument is actually settled.
On April 30 2012 23:39 Nagisama wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 17:06 KazeHydra wrote:Also Hanazawa will play Ichiko Sakura, a girl whose blissful life comes from her bountiful "happiness energy" — gained by sapping that energy from other people. lol happiness energy sounds like something that really fits her typical moe voice. Maybe Kana Hanazawa is actually a soul eating demon?! Run away Nagi, it's a trap! LOL what show is this?
Binbougami ga! Airs this summer.
On April 30 2012 23:55 Zergneedsfood wrote:Clearly you didn't allow a masterpiece to unfold itself. Intellectual anime viewers really have a knack for picking out well fleshed out characters and a one in a life time storyline.
znf so cool. teach me how to be moe intellectual like you!
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On May 01 2012 00:02 KazeHydra wrote:
znf so cool. teach me how to be intellectual intellectually moe like you!
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@KazeHydra true enough. I'm just glad the "war" is over.
Earlier on I asked for anime that was like Fate Zero, and yeah, I guess the main thing I like about it is the lack of a main character like Shirou/because villains (antiheroes?) are more fun.
Also, the amount of anime featuring a weak ass pathetic male lead is too damn high.
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On May 01 2012 00:29 Maxie wrote:
@KazeHydra true enough. I'm just glad the "war" is over.
Earlier on I asked for anime that was like Fate Zero, and yeah, I guess the main thing I like about it is the lack of a main character like Shirou/because villains (antiheroes?) are more fun.
Also, the amount of anime featuring a weak ass pathetic male lead is too damn high.
Mononoke
Mushishi
First ones a bit of an acquired taste but I reckon its probably one of my top 5.. Neither of them have a major plot or anything . Mushishi is pretty episodic and Mononoke has unrelated story arcs but you you will probably like the MC's. Infact Im sure. They arent anti hero's though.
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On May 01 2012 00:43 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 00:29 Maxie wrote:
@KazeHydra true enough. I'm just glad the "war" is over.
Earlier on I asked for anime that was like Fate Zero, and yeah, I guess the main thing I like about it is the lack of a main character like Shirou/because villains (antiheroes?) are more fun.
Also, the amount of anime featuring a weak ass pathetic male lead is too damn high.
Mononoke Mushishi First ones a bit of an acquired taste but I reckon its probably one of my top 5.. Neither of them have a major plot or anything . Mushishi is pretty episodic and Mononoke has unrelated story arcs but you you will probably like the MC's. Infact Im sure. They arent anti hero's though.
A long as it's not a Shirou or pathetic weak male lead I'm sure it's ok.
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On April 30 2012 14:51 Spazer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 12:53 Dullahan wrote:On April 30 2012 12:29 Ecael wrote:
a lulzy comparison that I'd just like to throw out, probably both Uta and I would put LB>S;G simply because of Refrain being better than Kurisu route into true end. Mmm, perhaps when comparing the routes as a whole... I was thinking more along the lines of comparing the + Show Spoiler +plot-reset-go-back-and-fix-it moment. S;G has the entire story dedicated to explaining how it happens whereas LB is basically, oh that wasn't quite the ending you wanted? Here, try again! I mean, I still liked LB, just saying that for me at least, the concrete explanations for the plot reset and time looping in S;G made the moment more epic compared to the standard Key magic arm-waving business in LB + Show Spoiler [Little Busters/Steins;Gate] +Personally, I consider them both to be happy endings just for the sake of having a happy ending. The majority of Steins;Gate's story is about Kyouma's quest to save whats-her-face from dying. He then learns that in order to do this, he has to undo all of the changes he's made to the timeline. This, of course, hints at and leads to the revelation that if he returns to the original timeline, Kurisu is gonna die. At which point he promptly breaks down, recovers, and goes through with the deed.
And then it turns out that there's a loophole he can abuse to save Kurisu as well. This development isn't strictly bad, but considering the emotional scene he just had, and considering that every other time he tried to change past/future events it fucked him over, it feels like a cheap way to get a happy end.
Now compare that with Little Busters magic. Certainly, the reasoning that Steins;Gate gives for the happy end is more concrete due to the well defined rules they've established for the universe. Little Busters, on the other hand, has no such rules in place. I mean they didn't really explain how they made their fictional world, so in that sense, rewinding is also fair game. In the end, the sequences in both VNs are more or less the same thing. Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 12:29 Ecael wrote:
Jokes aside, Kanon was standard early works of Key, all emotion and drama but weak thematically. Clannad was strong w/ the family theme and was an excellent adaptation of the Key formula up to that point into their new style but ultimately fell a bit short from point to point. Neither can really match up to LB in terms of how the VN wraps up, though far as individual routes go Clannad trumps LB hard.
MLA...well Sent would kill me if I bitched about it, but it is just not my thing. Very much agreed about Clannad, I think one of the big reasons I liked the anime so much was how well they managed to incorporate all the different routes. I've tried to go back to the VN a few times after watching the anime, but couldn't really get back into it. Just wondering, what did you not like about MLA? + Show Spoiler [MLA] +If Eca's issues with MLA are anything like mine, it has a lot to do with the fact that almost all the deaths are telegraphed far in advance. It basically follows the oft-used formula of whoever gets character development is gonna die. For instance, Isumi has a heart to heart conversation with Takeru at one point. She promptly dies in the very next battle. With the four main girls, I felt it was made pretty clear that they weren't going to die in at least the first three quarters of the story. And once the first of them died, it was only natural that the rest would follow suit.
Basically, the way deaths were written into the story had a major detrimental effect on the emotional impact they had for me. I also wasn't overly attached to any of the characters. If Sent is to be believed, that's because I skipped over a fair amount of Extra, but I hardly think that cliche plot and petty drama would make me like them any better.
Also, the sci-fi and associated technobabble is borderline retarded. For the most part, I enjoy it when a writer puts some time into researching whatever they're writing about so that it makes some modicum of sense. What I do not enjoy is having 10-15 minute segments of science talk that is barely relevant to the story. Short, concise explanations would have sufficed.
That said, the action scenes were pretty enjoyable, and the story has its fair share of epic moments. I feel it was still a worthwhile read, but wouldn't rank it as one of my favorite VNs.
"In the end, the sequences in both VNs are more or less the same thing."
+ Show Spoiler +Essentially that, S;G gave you more bullshit science to work with and LB never cared, no real difference between the two because neither were actually important to the completion of the story. In like say, MLA, if you take the bullshit science out you lose a lot of meaning to the things that people do, S;G timeleap could be replaced w/ magic and function pretty similarly. That kind of leads to Spazer's point, since regardless of methods, shit will happen far as s;g goes, it also makes the happy end a bit contrived when it could've been done similarly to a classical tragedy. I was personally more fine with it given that I read the individual routes before true end, so I got like 5 doses of the tragedy, then true end, but that's another matter. LB on the other hand was much tighter in regards to the construction of the world and resolved all the issues w/ baseball game and had a consistent idea throughout Refrain - things change for the better if you weather through dark times, insert friendship power and stuff as you will, but that works into the plot a lot better.
Sent and I have had the talk at some point about MLA, I didn't elaborate it quite as much as spazer did here but similar ideas. While I did work through all of it, I still didn't give much of a damn about the characters overall, epic moments are epic moments, but ML has always been a pretty detached read far as I am concerned. I probably had a lot more emotional attachment to KGNE even if it is out of pure rage, MLA just posed a huge on and off for me between action and everything-not-action.
Oh and in terms of telegraph character development...hm don't really remember, but probably suffered from that too. Doubt it affected me much because that's more the norm far as I am concerned, but definitely not a plus.
On May 01 2012 00:29 Maxie wrote:
@KazeHydra true enough. I'm just glad the "war" is over.
Earlier on I asked for anime that was like Fate Zero, and yeah, I guess the main thing I like about it is the lack of a main character like Shirou/because villains (antiheroes?) are more fun.
Also, the amount of anime featuring a weak ass pathetic male lead is too damn high.
Any volunteers to dig up the countless walls of text up to this point about why weak male protagonists and harem occur?
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On May 01 2012 00:43 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 00:29 Maxie wrote:
@KazeHydra true enough. I'm just glad the "war" is over.
Earlier on I asked for anime that was like Fate Zero, and yeah, I guess the main thing I like about it is the lack of a main character like Shirou/because villains (antiheroes?) are more fun.
Also, the amount of anime featuring a weak ass pathetic male lead is too damn high.
Mononoke Mushishi First ones a bit of an acquired taste but I reckon its probably one of my top 5.. Neither of them have a major plot or anything . Mushishi is pretty episodic and Mononoke has unrelated story arcs but you you will probably like the MC's. Infact Im sure. They arent anti hero's though.
I keep hearing about Mononoke but I never got around to watching it...is it similar to Mushishi?
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On May 01 2012 00:51 Ecael wrote:
Oh and in terms of telegraph character development...hm don't really remember, but probably suffered from that too. Doubt it affected me much because that's more the norm far as I am concerned, but definitely not a plus.
Ever just though of cutting back on the volume of stuff you consume (im assuming its rather prolific), Or is it more about the fix ? After all at some point one does just end up droning through so much material. Ive used probably a little under half the stuff I go through to watch while falling asleep or during like a commute.
On May 01 2012 00:52 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 00:43 Rebs wrote:On May 01 2012 00:29 Maxie wrote:
@KazeHydra true enough. I'm just glad the "war" is over.
Earlier on I asked for anime that was like Fate Zero, and yeah, I guess the main thing I like about it is the lack of a main character like Shirou/because villains (antiheroes?) are more fun.
Also, the amount of anime featuring a weak ass pathetic male lead is too damn high.
Mononoke Mushishi First ones a bit of an acquired taste but I reckon its probably one of my top 5.. Neither of them have a major plot or anything . Mushishi is pretty episodic and Mononoke has unrelated story arcs but you you will probably like the MC's. Infact Im sure. They arent anti hero's though. I keep hearing about Mononoke but I never got around to watching it...is it similar to Mushishi?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=201973
Should probably take a look at the last story of Ayakashi for the Bakeneko story to if you end up liking it, thats where it spun off from. (Edit: actually do that first and then move to Mononoke.) If youve seen Bakemonogatari and xxxholic you wont need to read up to much on the ayakashi/mononke involved.
On May 01 2012 01:38 Ryndika wrote:
Started watching Phantom - Requiem for the Phantom.. So is this a turnoff brain anime or not?
No.
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Fail double, l2click edit..
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Started watching Phantom - Requiem for the Phantom.. So is this a turnoff brain anime or not? Doesn't look like one. :D Seems pretty deep but we'll see if I like it.
What can I say about first 5m. + Show Spoiler +
=D
Love the soundstracks they use.
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Holy fucking shit, I'm sorry for bringing up the CG discussion. I had no idea people cared so much about it. Jesus.
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this might just be me but whenever I read Air Gear, 90% of the time I can not tell wtf is going....but the art is so top tier. Kinda sad it going to end in 3 chapters but I kinda hope that the new art will be put into a new series that actually make more sense.
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man those intellectual food tasters make me sick to my stomach, so pretentious and critical about everything.
sometimes you gotta enjoy food while holding your nose, that way shit dont taste as bad
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Chiyuri World 04:
If you can look past the shitty alternate world, and its shitty rules and logic, and focus more on the "school life" aspect, then this anime isnt half bad.
The "love triangle" between Chiyu, Kuroyuki, and Haru is pretty entertaining. + Show Spoiler +The part where Kuroyuki acts all upset cause she found out that Haru really did direct link with Chiyu was golden.
At least in this anime the MC isnt braindead dense, he just really isnt that good looking so he has very low self esteem. Finally a good reason. Most other fcking anime, you would see the MC all chiseled and skinny and shit, with their big stylish japanese hair. Then when they got chicks all over their dick, they act all dense as fck. Kinda pisses me off sometimes but I learned to get used to it.
The background music is pretty good too I guess. It adds more to the "school life" banter parts.
Also when I checked MAL and saw that it was 24 eps.... Ya... DA FCK?! How the hell are they gonna stretch this shit out for 24 eps? Jesus christ, wtf is Sunrise thinking?
Anyways, Chiyu-service is the only real reason to watch this anime:
+ Show Spoiler [NSFWish image] +![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sa6mu.png) I have a soft spot for dem short-haired childhoold friends. INB4 DEATHFLAG.
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On May 01 2012 04:14 Emnjay808 wrote:Chiyuri World 04: If you can look past the shitty alternate world, and its shitty rules and logic, and focus more on the "school life" aspect, then this anime isnt half bad. The "love triangle" between Chiyu, Kuroyuki, and Haru is pretty entertaining. + Show Spoiler +The part where Kuroyuki acts all upset cause she found out that Haru really did direct link with Chiyu was golden. At least in this anime the MC isnt braindead dense, he just really isnt that good looking so he has very low self esteem. Finally a good reason. Most other fcking anime, you would see the MC all chiseled and skinny and shit, with their big stylish japanese hair. Then when they got chicks all over their dick, they act all dense as fck. Kinda pisses me off sometimes but I learned to get used to it. The background music is pretty good too I guess. It adds more to the "school life" banter parts. Also when I checked MAL and saw that it was 24 eps.... Ya... DA FCK?! How the hell are they gonna stretch this shit out for 24 eps? Jesus christ, wtf is Sunrise thinking? Anyways, Chiyu-service is the only real reason to watch this anime: + Show Spoiler [NSFWish image] +I have a soft spot for dem short-haired childhoold friends. INB4 DEATHFLAG.
The series is based off of a light novel that is up to like 10+ volume or almost 10 volume so it possible to make it into 24 episode. If they drag it on with school life stuff it possible.
What I dont understand is why she even likes him considering that he has nothing good about him + Show Spoiler +(cant really remember the episode, she did semi confess to him right)
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