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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
September 24 2013 13:49 GMT
#10061
On September 24 2013 15:49 flamewheel wrote:
Yah what energy ball above me said

The last like 10 pages of the thread are unreadable.
judochopaction
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States533 Posts
September 24 2013 13:56 GMT
#10062
all i know is i keep being tricked into thinking there is a new chapter, getting excited, going to read it, and being sad.
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
September 24 2013 14:09 GMT
#10063
On September 24 2013 22:25 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
http://www.mangaspoiler.com/

Keke, spoilers, if u cannot wait for tml.


anytime there is a 2 week break I become very tempted to read the spoilers but I just can't quite do it.
"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it." - Thomas Sowell
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 14:40:46
September 24 2013 14:31 GMT
#10064
On September 24 2013 17:53 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 11:52 Forikorder wrote:
On September 24 2013 11:46 sc2holar wrote:
What are Wapol doing in a Call to arms against the most dangerous man in the world. Whats even cobra and vivi there for. they are small "fodder" countries in paradise. i guess you would get togheter the schichibukai and the admirals, tell them what you know, then gather some people from CP9 and try to get them to infiltrate the revolutionaries and climb the ranks to find out more. its like the gov never even tried with dragon :/

taht makes no sense because A) you dont know that they havent tried infiltrating Dragons army and B) if your trying to find something that you dont know where is its best to look in as many palces as possible which is why they were trying to get all the countries on board and C) Dragon is marshalling an army theyd want to see how many countries are willing to stand against him so they know how much military they can expect in case of war


Classic Forik pattern of logic..:

A: Ask for hard evidence from others when it comes to their theories, or parts of the arc he doesnt want to believe, like DD+Law. but disregard every clue Oda has given us when pointed out to him because it doesnt "hold up" against his bias.

B: Feels free to make shit up himself, come up with assumptions or crazy theories (like DD beomg crazy and delusional and never having actually met law). twist around the order of events (ie Shanks holds off aikanu->the marines stop the war because that gave them one minute to think, instead of how it happened: Shanks forcing Sengoku to stop the war by bringing his crew between the retreating pirates and the marines and tells SG that if he wants a fight they are welcome to take on him instead of the retreating WB pirates, something the marines are not ready for yet) to suit your standpoint.

No need to send me more PMs everyone, i have gotten the hint. im not gonna take the bait again, and i will ignore the dude from now on. Thanks for all the support

ive never asked for hard evidence just any evidence
i never said DD never met law just only after time skip
shanks interfering allowed cooler heads to prevail instead of hotheads like Akainu
*edited with a cooler head*
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
September 24 2013 14:37 GMT
#10065
On September 24 2013 23:31 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 17:53 sc2holar wrote:
On September 24 2013 11:52 Forikorder wrote:
On September 24 2013 11:46 sc2holar wrote:
What are Wapol doing in a Call to arms against the most dangerous man in the world. Whats even cobra and vivi there for. they are small "fodder" countries in paradise. i guess you would get togheter the schichibukai and the admirals, tell them what you know, then gather some people from CP9 and try to get them to infiltrate the revolutionaries and climb the ranks to find out more. its like the gov never even tried with dragon :/

taht makes no sense because A) you dont know that they havent tried infiltrating Dragons army and B) if your trying to find something that you dont know where is its best to look in as many palces as possible which is why they were trying to get all the countries on board and C) Dragon is marshalling an army theyd want to see how many countries are willing to stand against him so they know how much military they can expect in case of war


Classic Forik pattern of logic..:

A: Ask for hard evidence from others when it comes to their theories, or parts of the arc he doesnt want to believe, like DD+Law. but disregard every clue Oda has given us when pointed out to him because it doesnt "hold up" against his bias.

B: Feels free to make shit up himself, come up with assumptions or crazy theories (like DD beomg crazy and delusional and never having actually met law). twist around the order of events (ie Shanks holds off aikanu->the marines stop the war because that gave them one minute to think, instead of how it happened: Shanks forcing Sengoku to stop the war by bringing his crew between the retreating pirates and the marines and tells SG that if he wants a fight they are welcome to take on him instead of the retreating WB pirates, something the marines are not ready for yet) to suit your standpoint.

No need to send me more PMs everyone, i have gotten the hint. im not gonna take the bait again, and i will ignore the dude from now on. Thanks for all the support

ill take this as the classic patten of everyone else, argue against me until they realise theyre wrong then just try to insult me in order to attempt to dodge the argument entirely

If it is a classic pattern of -everyone- else, perhaps it is not everyone that is at fault but the other party
tom: "dont you mean TWO g keys???" kwark: "nah, i'll probably just press it twice"
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2539 Posts
September 24 2013 14:38 GMT
#10066
On September 24 2013 23:31 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 17:53 sc2holar wrote:
On September 24 2013 11:52 Forikorder wrote:
On September 24 2013 11:46 sc2holar wrote:
What are Wapol doing in a Call to arms against the most dangerous man in the world. Whats even cobra and vivi there for. they are small "fodder" countries in paradise. i guess you would get togheter the schichibukai and the admirals, tell them what you know, then gather some people from CP9 and try to get them to infiltrate the revolutionaries and climb the ranks to find out more. its like the gov never even tried with dragon :/

taht makes no sense because A) you dont know that they havent tried infiltrating Dragons army and B) if your trying to find something that you dont know where is its best to look in as many palces as possible which is why they were trying to get all the countries on board and C) Dragon is marshalling an army theyd want to see how many countries are willing to stand against him so they know how much military they can expect in case of war


Classic Forik pattern of logic..:

A: Ask for hard evidence from others when it comes to their theories, or parts of the arc he doesnt want to believe, like DD+Law. but disregard every clue Oda has given us when pointed out to him because it doesnt "hold up" against his bias.

B: Feels free to make shit up himself, come up with assumptions or crazy theories (like DD beomg crazy and delusional and never having actually met law). twist around the order of events (ie Shanks holds off aikanu->the marines stop the war because that gave them one minute to think, instead of how it happened: Shanks forcing Sengoku to stop the war by bringing his crew between the retreating pirates and the marines and tells SG that if he wants a fight they are welcome to take on him instead of the retreating WB pirates, something the marines are not ready for yet) to suit your standpoint.

No need to send me more PMs everyone, i have gotten the hint. im not gonna take the bait again, and i will ignore the dude from now on. Thanks for all the support

ill take this as the classic patten of everyone else, argue against me until they realise theyre wrong then just try to insult me in order to attempt to dodge the argument entirely

You're no longer arguing about the manga and are just taking pot shots at each other. Now would be a good time to stop.
####
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
September 24 2013 14:48 GMT
#10067
Honestly, how many times to do we have to go through with this with Forikorder.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 24 2013 15:01 GMT
#10068
You should have been warned a while ago. Take it to PM please.
maru lover forever
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 15:39:02
September 24 2013 15:24 GMT
#10069
To be fair, Forikorder hasn't been anywhere as aggressive and insulting and raging as sc2holar. sc2holar has been warned several times in this argument and Forikorder has not.

In fact Forikorder should be applauded for not going off to the deep end this time, as opposed to usual, especially in the face of multiple hostile posts against him.
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
September 24 2013 15:51 GMT
#10070
I can't wait for the next chapter to see Forik vs sc2holar round 3.
b3n3tt3
Profile Joined January 2012
595 Posts
September 24 2013 16:12 GMT
#10071
just found this somewhere on the mangaspoiler site.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Apparently zoro mimics mihawk's zooming in. holy shit Oda! NOW WERE TALKIN'
Sharkey
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
668 Posts
September 24 2013 19:16 GMT
#10072
On September 25 2013 00:24 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
To be fair, Forikorder hasn't been anywhere as aggressive and insulting and raging as sc2holar. sc2holar has been warned several times in this argument and Forikorder has not.

In fact Forikorder should be applauded for not going off to the deep end this time, as opposed to usual, especially in the face of multiple hostile posts against him.


QFT. Although I disagree with many opinions in this thread, it is nice when people are civil about their disagreements and don't resort to name calling. It makes for a much more interesting and enjoyable reading experience. It would be dull if everyone always agreed with each other. Plus most of the stuff people argue about are not objective facts but their opinions of: 1) what went unsaid or 2) what will happen next. It is pretty hard to predict stuff but also pretty enjoyable to try and think of how things will turn out in the manga.

DD and Law knew each other ten years ago (I think people were disagreeing on this point).
If anyone has any serious prayer requests please PM me. Thx.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 20:58:15
September 24 2013 20:51 GMT
#10073
On September 25 2013 00:24 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
To be fair, Forikorder hasn't been anywhere as aggressive and insulting and raging as sc2holar. sc2holar has been warned several times in this argument and Forikorder has not.

In fact Forikorder should be applauded for not going off to the deep end this time, as opposed to usual, especially in the face of multiple hostile posts against him.



I recieved one warning for caps lock and one warning for overuse of bold text. has nothing to do with the content of the posts.

on the other hand i recieved about 9-10PMs from people telling me not to mind forik because most people ignore his posts because he is a known baiter/troll. and lots of heads up.

i dont think hes a troll though, and im not insulting nor raging, im trying to be straight to the point and pinpoint the issues so forik can understand what people take issue with. this might seem passive agressive but if you were stuck debating with someone who constantly backtracks his statements to make it sound like he was saying something he originally wasnt, you would get just as frustrated. the one where he asked me for evidence regarding my statement about law and DD having some sort of history and i kindly post and example, and he backtracked to "i asked for evidence that DD raised law as a child" wich
1. i never said
2. he didnt ask for

is enough to prove how frustrating it is to try to maintain a discussion with a guy like that. and the marineford example. Someone mentioned that the marines arent really good guys since they were going to leave their wounded just to murder every retreating pirate alive, despite that they already surrendered. He replies by claiming that the marines themselves ultimately took a second to think about it and decided to stop, when everyone knows that it stopped because shanks got in the way and ordered them to stop or they would have to fight another yonkou that day. Now even after this has been pointed out he tries to attribute the end of the war to "marines letting cooler heads prevail" wich is bullshit and is just ignoring facts to help support his claims. how can it be attributed to cooler heads when shanks crew was literary blocking their way and told them that they would have to fight throught them first, and the marines didnt have enough power left to fight another yonkou after WB and their clash with soon-to-be yonkou blackbeard pirates. The Marine still wanted the remains of the WB pirates dead and if shanks didnt show up they would have kept the onlslaught, but hes acting like shanks intervention has nothing to do with it and the only reason being that marines are noble enought to spare so many lives..
you no take candle
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
September 24 2013 21:07 GMT
#10074
TLDR: constantly posting flat out lies regarding manga content and backtracking previous posts when proven wrong, claiming he meant something else (altough he stuck with the initial claim until it got shut down) is more serious and annoying than someone losing their temper (because of this very behaviour). Like someone posted a few pages back, almost everyone who tries to argue with this guy seems to end up with a warning. altought i was never warned for flaming wich seems to be how it usually happens.
you no take candle
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 24 2013 23:26 GMT
#10075
You both should just leave. This is undigestable, and not funny anymore
The heart's eternal vow
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
September 24 2013 23:48 GMT
#10076
You sc2holar has said repeatedly that you'll ignore forikorder/ this topic. Yet here you are again, double posting with a wall of text. Don't blame forikorder, blame yourself and move on. Why turn a discussion on one piece and one piece theories into something so unfriendly.

Yeah, I can make up random theories like Doflamingo is actually a Tenryuubito, back it up with some random pages, but at the end of the day, it just an idea, it can never be validiated or unvalidiated, and I wouldn't make the last 10 frigging pages unreadable.
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
September 24 2013 23:51 GMT
#10077
On September 24 2013 23:09 terranghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 22:25 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
http://www.mangaspoiler.com/

Keke, spoilers, if u cannot wait for tml.


anytime there is a 2 week break I become very tempted to read the spoilers but I just can't quite do it.


Wait hold up it's a two week break?
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
September 25 2013 00:22 GMT
#10078
he means there's two weeks between chapters (ie a week is skipped)

so i read the spoilers, this chapter should be quite good
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 02:45:13
September 25 2013 02:44 GMT
#10079
On September 25 2013 08:26 PVJ wrote:
You both should just leave. This is undigestable, and not funny anymore


Agreed. As someone said before you alrdy said you would stop argueing with him and here you are again at it still, even though I'm on Forik side this time around.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
September 25 2013 03:52 GMT
#10080
I've read more of this argument than I should have, and all I can say is give Forikorder a break.
Especially if you're all so much smarter than him, you should be able to notice that he tends to phrase his opinions clumsy or imprecise.

If you read carefully, you will notice multiple posts of people actually agreeing with Forikorder's side of the argument. If you sink to attacking how he phrased his arguments rather than the arguments themselves, maybe, just maybe, you only keep arguing against him because he has a bad reputation.



(Yes, I'm late with this. I was curious to what extents people would go to "battle" Forikorder)
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