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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
August 09 2013 16:48 GMT
#9001
Sanji is the most handsome male on the thousand sunny. Outside the SH crew, Law, Aokiji and Doflamingo are probably the most badass characters,
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 09 2013 16:58 GMT
#9002
Shanks #1 ez
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
August 09 2013 17:13 GMT
#9003
Jimbei is up there aswell. Real baller
you no take candle
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
August 09 2013 17:22 GMT
#9004
On August 10 2013 01:34 Dreamer.T wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 21:31 amaDeus wrote:
On August 09 2013 18:05 Dreamer.T wrote:
On August 09 2013 07:06 SkelA wrote:
I miss the really old Luffy when he was a badass tall boy instead of a short midget nowadays


Yeah same. I've got nothing against the new design, but the old art style had a lot more feeling going with it.


true..
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just my opinion:
luffy: should have been a bit taller
chopper: good
brooke: freaky..but ok ^^
zoro: goddamn badass
sanji: good
robin: good
usopp: good
nami: ok..dunno, maybe a bit too much fanservice? just like with hancock
franky: :x


This is a great example of the many moments where the badass level went above 9000. As for the guy saying the old designs aren't manly...I question your judgement of what's manly. Nothing so far is as manly as this.

There's a obvious dissonance in cirumstancial meaning when people say design and point to older stuff. That picture may be an example of manliness, but it has nothing to do with old vs. new character design due to the "badass" factor coming from the art, pose and invoked emotion. Just comparing character design the new one is obviously more grown up, i.e. "manly".

My theory is that Luffy had almost all of those badass moments before the 2 year skip that people just associate his old design with the "awesome and manly Luffy".
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
August 09 2013 17:30 GMT
#9005
If you want manly character, i dont think shonen manga is for you.The general rule for almost all shonen is that the more effiminate, the more powerful. One Piece is somewhat of an exception (along with dragon ball Z) but the strawhats where never Macho except for Zoro, who is more badass than ever post-timeskip.
you no take candle
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden890 Posts
August 09 2013 17:30 GMT
#9006
Btw robin was such a missed oppertunity of a charracter. Her abilities now are just lame. Just look at the robin vs pell fight. Thats how robin should be as a fighter imo. A semi agile fighter using the devil fruit in smart ways. Instead the abilities now are just big foot and stuff.. its just lame.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
August 09 2013 17:34 GMT
#9007
Who cares about the fighting, Luffy and Zoros fights have always been the only interesting ones anyways. Robin has an awesome personality and her mature yet laidback attitude is an awesome contrast to the other SH crewmembers. She is hands down the most intelligent nakama
you no take candle
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden890 Posts
August 09 2013 17:43 GMT
#9008
On August 10 2013 02:34 sc2holar wrote:
Who cares about the fighting, Luffy and Zoros fights have always been the only interesting ones anyways. Robin has an awesome personality and her mature yet laidback attitude is an awesome contrast to the other SH crewmembers. She is hands down the most intelligent nakama


Well i dissagree with only luffy and zoro being interesting. I mean its kinda true. At least the last few years. Alabasta arc had some nice fights, obv luffy and zoros fights still where the best there. But the others werent all that bad. Ex sanji vs mr2. Robin owning pell was also a pretty awesome stomp. But robin was changed completely from the original charracter she was.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 17:59:12
August 09 2013 17:54 GMT
#9009
Since Robin hanged out with the revolutionarys during the timeskip, imagine if she had a little romantic fling with Dragon and gave birth to Luffys brother who will grow up and eat a mythical zoan: god god fruit. He will kick blackbeards ass and take down the gorosei and lock up all celestial dragons in impel down.
you no take candle
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
August 09 2013 18:00 GMT
#9010
On August 10 2013 01:48 sc2holar wrote:
Sanji is the most handsome male on the thousand sunny. Outside the SH crew, Law, Aokiji and Doflamingo are probably the most badass characters,

No one is more badass than Benn Beckman.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 18:37:23
August 09 2013 18:28 GMT
#9011
Badass tiers:

Super Badass Tier (super powerful and cool/mysterious personalities):
Dragon
Doflamingo
Jimbei
Kizaru
Pre-pacifista Kuma
The entire Red Hair Crew
Aokiji
Blackbeard
Rayleigh


Badass Tier:
Law
Crocodile
Arlong
Akainu
Marco
Garp
Jesus Burgess
Enel
Smoker
Vergo
Shinryu of the Rain
Eustass Kidd
Basil Hawkins
Vista
Dadan
Issho
you no take candle
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 09 2013 18:28 GMT
#9012
I imagine the only reason Whitebeard isn't first tier is because he's dead
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 18:37:50
August 09 2013 18:30 GMT
#9013
Correct. If he was alive he would have his own "Whitebeard Tier" above everyone else. Rest in peace, pops!
you no take candle
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 19:00:50
August 09 2013 19:00 GMT
#9014
how are none of the strawhats in that list lol edit: oh its not including them i guess? Zoro / Luffy > All.
Useless wet fish.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 19:03:54
August 09 2013 19:03 GMT
#9015
On August 10 2013 04:00 Capped wrote:
how are none of the strawhats in that list lol edit: oh its not including them i guess? Zoro / Luffy > All.

That was the point. To rank the non-strawhat characters.
Personally i think Reylegh is the most badass character alive and a tad more badass than Zoro/luffy at the moment.
you no take candle
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
August 09 2013 19:05 GMT
#9016
On August 10 2013 02:30 sc2holar wrote:
If you want manly character, i dont think shonen manga is for you.The general rule for almost all shonen is that the more effiminate, the more powerful. One Piece is somewhat of an exception (along with dragon ball Z) but the strawhats where never Macho except for Zoro, who is more badass than ever post-timeskip.


That's what I love about One Piece, there are girly men that are powerful, and manly men who are powerful. Lots of diversity.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 19:21:28
August 09 2013 19:10 GMT
#9017
On August 10 2013 04:05 Dreamer.T wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 02:30 sc2holar wrote:
If you want manly character, i dont think shonen manga is for you.The general rule for almost all shonen is that the more effiminate, the more powerful. One Piece is somewhat of an exception (along with dragon ball Z) but the strawhats where never Macho except for Zoro, who is more badass than ever post-timeskip.


That's what I love about One Piece, there are girly men that are powerful, and manly men who are powerful. Lots of diversity.

I agree. and One Piece has lots of characters that dont comform to any of the established manga stereotypes, both in appearance and personality. Its a completley unique piece of art.

Ivankov is a great example. He is a super strong character and a king, who also happens to be an okama. Oda seems very pro HBT-rights, the okamas in one piece are always helpful to the strawhats and luffy has great respect for ivankov and bon kurei.

The Fishmen are also a good portrayal of racism and discrimination in human society, and the celestial dragons is a hilarious caricature of the upper class.
you no take candle
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 21:18:41
August 09 2013 19:37 GMT
#9018
On August 10 2013 03:28 sc2holar wrote:
Badass tiers:

Super Badass Tier (super powerful and cool/mysterious personalities):
Dragon
Doflamingo
Jimbei
Kizaru
Pre-pacifista Kuma
The entire Red Hair Crew
Aokiji
Blackbeard
Rayleigh


Badass Tier:
Law
Crocodile
Arlong
Akainu
Marco
Garp
Jesus Burgess
Enel
Smoker
Vergo
Shinryu of the Rain
Eustass Kidd
Basil Hawkins
Vista
Dadan
Issho


I'm very surprised that you mentioned Jimbei as super badass. I actually think that he is a bit of a boring character. I'd much rather know more about the Admiral, and in general the highest tiers of World Government.

EDIT: Sorry i didn't express myself properly - "the Admiral" is of course the new Admiral Fujitora
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 19:53:20
August 09 2013 19:44 GMT
#9019
On August 10 2013 04:37 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 03:28 sc2holar wrote:
Badass tiers:

Super Badass Tier (super powerful and cool/mysterious personalities):
Dragon
Doflamingo
Jimbei
Kizaru
Pre-pacifista Kuma
The entire Red Hair Crew
Aokiji
Blackbeard
Rayleigh


Badass Tier:
Law
Crocodile
Arlong
Akainu
Marco
Garp
Jesus Burgess
Enel
Smoker
Vergo
Shinryu of the Rain
Eustass Kidd
Basil Hawkins
Vista
Dadan
Issho


I'm very surprised that you mentioned Jimbei as super badass. I actually think that he is a bit of a boring character. I'd much rather know more about the Admiral, and in general the highest tiers of World Government.

Wich admiral? its hard to rank characters in the world government that we dont know about yet.

Jimbei is top tier because he did many awesome things during impel down/marineford, he was prepared to die for luffy so that he could save Ace, and he managed to save luffy from his mental breakdown that almost drove him insane after aces death. I also respect him because he is fishman who has suffered greatly from the abuse of humans, yet he has gotten over his hatred of humans and tries bring the two races togheter.
you no take candle
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 20:32:19
August 09 2013 20:30 GMT
#9020
On August 10 2013 02:43 sertas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 02:34 sc2holar wrote:
Who cares about the fighting, Luffy and Zoros fights have always been the only interesting ones anyways. Robin has an awesome personality and her mature yet laidback attitude is an awesome contrast to the other SH crewmembers. She is hands down the most intelligent nakama


Well i dissagree with only luffy and zoro being interesting. I mean its kinda true. At least the last few years. Alabasta arc had some nice fights, obv luffy and zoros fights still where the best there. But the others werent all that bad. Ex sanji vs mr2. Robin owning pell was also a pretty awesome stomp. But robin was changed completely from the original charracter she was.


Because she was originally a ruthless back-stabbing and heartless woman who was mis-treated by the world, it's a good thing that she's become a good person.

I really like each and every one of the straw hats just the way they are.


Edit: don't you dare put arlong in the same tier as law, crocodile, etc. arlong was nothing more than a racist, hateful dip-shit who's also really fucking weak.
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