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On June 05 2013 04:05 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 03:36 Thor.Rush wrote:On June 05 2013 00:21 pyrogenetix wrote:
Man as soon as that cello/violin started playing after the doors shut I knew they were all going to die.
Arya has way too much potential and cool lines now to be killed off. Bran is still a newb and still needs to come into his own with his power so he won't die soon either. Jon Snow just narrowly missed death but now he's got a crazy ex hunting him down, but I suspect he has more stuff to do before he dies. I think that the little kid brother is going to die, and so is the wildling woman, though I've come to like her more and more.
Is the next episode the last of the season? The guy refusing to drink wine gave it away for me. Arya was great. He said he didnt drink wine in a scene with jaime and brienne. "I dont partake". ---- I cant believe I never thought of it before, but if Bran can control animals hes probably going to control a dragon. Makes you wonder why the northerners didnt do that the first time the targs came with dragons though. Maybe you have to be an incredibly powerful warg? Bran certainly is that. Though perhaps Bran warging a Dragon and defending the north from Danny is too idealistic for this series. 
Yeah but it was the way he looked when he said it. I just instantly felt something was going to happen.
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On June 05 2013 06:54 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 06:45 Grovbolle wrote:On June 05 2013 06:41 Madars wrote:On June 05 2013 06:36 Talack wrote:On June 05 2013 06:32 Gosi wrote:
I can't even remember how much Jon Snow knows. Does he even know that they are at war? He doesn't even know about Winterfell does he? He had no reason to even think that Bran was all the way out there and didn't think about the wolf in the heat of the moment.
I think it was a pretty good scene with how he just ditched Ygritte and how broken she looked. ^^ John Snow knows nothing of course, he doesn't read books! He knows how to pleasure a woman without breaking his vow :D I'm fairly certain he still broke his vows, if comments about his pretty pecker are to believed. Also, that does raise the question of when he has broken them. What level of sexual intimacy counts? Because this is important damnit. If he's still a virgin, he may qualify for wizardhood like Sam.
"Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all nights to come."
He hasn't taken a wife and hasn't fathered children so he has broken no vows.
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Its pretty clear that your not meant to have a girlfriend so long as your shooting blanks or exclusively partake in anal sex. He broke his vows, but he did so in order to uphold the spirit of service to the nights watch.
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I don't get how the Frey's knew Talisa was pregnant. I mean I think we can assume she was repeatedly stabbed in the stomach to ensure Robb's heir would die, but how did the Frey's know she was carrying a child?
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On June 05 2013 09:12 Tewks44 wrote:
I don't get how the Frey's knew Talisa was pregnant. I mean I think we can assume she was repeatedly stabbed in the stomach to ensure Robb's heir would die, but how did the Frey's know she was carrying a child?
I'm pretty sure just killing her was enough to ensure Robb's heir would die.
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On June 05 2013 09:12 Tewks44 wrote:
I don't get how the Frey's knew Talisa was pregnant. I mean I think we can assume she was repeatedly stabbed in the stomach to ensure Robb's heir would die, but how did the Frey's know she was carrying a child?
"I see what is going on under that dress"....
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On June 05 2013 09:13 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 09:12 Tewks44 wrote:
I don't get how the Frey's knew Talisa was pregnant. I mean I think we can assume she was repeatedly stabbed in the stomach to ensure Robb's heir would die, but how did the Frey's know she was carrying a child? I'm pretty sure just killing her was enough to ensure Robb's heir would die.
That's not the point of my question at all.
On June 05 2013 09:15 Ghostcom wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 09:12 Tewks44 wrote:
I don't get how the Frey's knew Talisa was pregnant. I mean I think we can assume she was repeatedly stabbed in the stomach to ensure Robb's heir would die, but how did the Frey's know she was carrying a child? "I see what is going on under that dress"....
I thought he was just saying that to mean he saw that she had a nice body considering it was coupled with the creepy "I bet everything stays right where it is" comment.
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On June 05 2013 09:12 Tewks44 wrote:
I don't get how the Frey's knew Talisa was pregnant. I mean I think we can assume she was repeatedly stabbed in the stomach to ensure Robb's heir would die, but how did the Frey's know she was carrying a child?
For the guy who stabbed her, he probably just stabbed her not thinking about that. But its a lot more brutal for us viewers who knows.
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On June 05 2013 09:17 Tewks44 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 09:13 SKC wrote:On June 05 2013 09:12 Tewks44 wrote:
I don't get how the Frey's knew Talisa was pregnant. I mean I think we can assume she was repeatedly stabbed in the stomach to ensure Robb's heir would die, but how did the Frey's know she was carrying a child? I'm pretty sure just killing her was enough to ensure Robb's heir would die. That's not the point of my question at all. Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 09:15 Ghostcom wrote:On June 05 2013 09:12 Tewks44 wrote:
I don't get how the Frey's knew Talisa was pregnant. I mean I think we can assume she was repeatedly stabbed in the stomach to ensure Robb's heir would die, but how did the Frey's know she was carrying a child? "I see what is going on under that dress".... I thought he was just saying that to mean he saw that she had a nice body considering it was coupled with the creepy "I bet everything stays right where it is" comment.
I took it the same way initially, but considering what later transpired I feel like it might be a foreshadowing rather than just the perverse comments.
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On June 05 2013 09:17 Tewks44 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 09:13 SKC wrote:On June 05 2013 09:12 Tewks44 wrote:
I don't get how the Frey's knew Talisa was pregnant. I mean I think we can assume she was repeatedly stabbed in the stomach to ensure Robb's heir would die, but how did the Frey's know she was carrying a child? I'm pretty sure just killing her was enough to ensure Robb's heir would die. Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 09:15 Ghostcom wrote:On June 05 2013 09:12 Tewks44 wrote:
I don't get how the Frey's knew Talisa was pregnant. I mean I think we can assume she was repeatedly stabbed in the stomach to ensure Robb's heir would die, but how did the Frey's know she was carrying a child? "I see what is going on under that dress".... I thought he was just saying that to mean he saw that she had a nice body considering it was coupled with the creepy "I bet everything stays right where it is" comment.
I'm pretty sure he saw that Talisa was pregnant. He also says "I can always see what's going on beneath a dress. Been at this a long time".
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would the Boltons know that she was pregnant?
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On June 05 2013 09:38 Zexion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 09:17 Tewks44 wrote:On June 05 2013 09:13 SKC wrote:On June 05 2013 09:12 Tewks44 wrote:
I don't get how the Frey's knew Talisa was pregnant. I mean I think we can assume she was repeatedly stabbed in the stomach to ensure Robb's heir would die, but how did the Frey's know she was carrying a child? I'm pretty sure just killing her was enough to ensure Robb's heir would die. On June 05 2013 09:15 Ghostcom wrote:On June 05 2013 09:12 Tewks44 wrote:
I don't get how the Frey's knew Talisa was pregnant. I mean I think we can assume she was repeatedly stabbed in the stomach to ensure Robb's heir would die, but how did the Frey's know she was carrying a child? "I see what is going on under that dress".... I thought he was just saying that to mean he saw that she had a nice body considering it was coupled with the creepy "I bet everything stays right where it is" comment. I'm pretty sure he saw that Talisa was pregnant. He also says "I can always see what's going on beneath a dress. Been at this a long time".
I think the best bet would be that he knew considering he had like 20 children.
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On June 05 2013 09:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
would the Boltons know that she was pregnant?
They could have talked. Again though, the kid would die if the woman does, so I see no reason to stab the kid specifically. I think you guys are reading a bit too much into it. Most modern day stabbings are in the stomache (I don't have any numbers in my head right now, and it wouldn't matter because modern doesn't necessarily translate to medieval). Its a very easy spot to stab someone, and you'll end up doing a lot of damage. Most likely he just stabbed her to kill her. But for us viewers, its just that much more gruesome because we know there's an unborn child in there.
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I wish Arya managed to set free Greywind
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On June 05 2013 08:55 Papulatus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 06:54 Lord Tolkien wrote:On June 05 2013 06:45 Grovbolle wrote:On June 05 2013 06:41 Madars wrote:On June 05 2013 06:36 Talack wrote:On June 05 2013 06:32 Gosi wrote:
I can't even remember how much Jon Snow knows. Does he even know that they are at war? He doesn't even know about Winterfell does he? He had no reason to even think that Bran was all the way out there and didn't think about the wolf in the heat of the moment.
I think it was a pretty good scene with how he just ditched Ygritte and how broken she looked. ^^ John Snow knows nothing of course, he doesn't read books! He knows how to pleasure a woman without breaking his vow :D I'm fairly certain he still broke his vows, if comments about his pretty pecker are to believed. Also, that does raise the question of when he has broken them. What level of sexual intimacy counts? Because this is important damnit. If he's still a virgin, he may qualify for wizardhood like Sam. "Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all nights to come." He hasn't taken a wife and hasn't fathered children so he has broken no vows.
It was to my understanding that they keep houses full of whores near the wall for the Nightwatch, Tyrion mentioned about visiting them.
It also makes sense to have them so the men dont go bat shit crazy... they just wont recognice any child that might happen, and as bastards use them in the Nightwatch as stableboys.
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On June 05 2013 10:03 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 09:38 Zexion wrote:On June 05 2013 09:17 Tewks44 wrote:On June 05 2013 09:13 SKC wrote:On June 05 2013 09:12 Tewks44 wrote:
I don't get how the Frey's knew Talisa was pregnant. I mean I think we can assume she was repeatedly stabbed in the stomach to ensure Robb's heir would die, but how did the Frey's know she was carrying a child? I'm pretty sure just killing her was enough to ensure Robb's heir would die. On June 05 2013 09:15 Ghostcom wrote:On June 05 2013 09:12 Tewks44 wrote:
I don't get how the Frey's knew Talisa was pregnant. I mean I think we can assume she was repeatedly stabbed in the stomach to ensure Robb's heir would die, but how did the Frey's know she was carrying a child? "I see what is going on under that dress".... I thought he was just saying that to mean he saw that she had a nice body considering it was coupled with the creepy "I bet everything stays right where it is" comment. I'm pretty sure he saw that Talisa was pregnant. He also says "I can always see what's going on beneath a dress. Been at this a long time". I think the best bet would be that he knew considering he had like 20 children.
Exactly.
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If you guys comment on the correctness of speculation, or ban certain 'correct' speculation that's doing more harm than good.. hope that dawns on people.
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On June 05 2013 10:19 Usagi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 08:55 Papulatus wrote:On June 05 2013 06:54 Lord Tolkien wrote:On June 05 2013 06:45 Grovbolle wrote:On June 05 2013 06:41 Madars wrote:On June 05 2013 06:36 Talack wrote:On June 05 2013 06:32 Gosi wrote:
I can't even remember how much Jon Snow knows. Does he even know that they are at war? He doesn't even know about Winterfell does he? He had no reason to even think that Bran was all the way out there and didn't think about the wolf in the heat of the moment.
I think it was a pretty good scene with how he just ditched Ygritte and how broken she looked. ^^ John Snow knows nothing of course, he doesn't read books! He knows how to pleasure a woman without breaking his vow :D I'm fairly certain he still broke his vows, if comments about his pretty pecker are to believed. Also, that does raise the question of when he has broken them. What level of sexual intimacy counts? Because this is important damnit. If he's still a virgin, he may qualify for wizardhood like Sam. "Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all nights to come." He hasn't taken a wife and hasn't fathered children so he has broken no vows. It was to my understanding that they keep houses full of whores near the wall for the Nightwatch, Tyrion mentioned about visiting them. It also makes sense to have them so the men dont go bat shit crazy... they just wont recognice any child that might happen, and as bastards use them in the Nightwatch as stableboys.
And it's considered scandalous/disreputable that they sneak out to them - thus it's a breaking of vows, not done openly.
As for the stabbing, I doubt that the people involved are practiced killers that are able to be delicate. They're not going for artistry, and probably want to make it excessively brutal because they are murdering people that betrayed them.
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The rains of Castamere was a very good episode, one that results in a significant reduction of key characters .
Tyrion doesn't appear in this installment, so I look forward to following his storyline in subsequent episodes.
I think there is a 9 out of 10 chance that we will be treated to a hot sex scene between Daenerys and Daario, this should be no less intense than when we saw the Mother of Dragons getting it off with Khal Drogo:
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