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not gonna lie, I'm ridiculously excited for tomorrow
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Oh man, finally caught up after i got home today, have to say hands down best line so far this season: "I don't distrust you because you're a woman, I distrust you're not as smart as you think you are."
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On April 28 2013 08:01 UdderChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 04:20 LoLAdriankat wrote:On April 28 2013 01:45 Jophess wrote:
I believe this is the line of succession for Westeros:
1. True born sons
2. Brothers
3. Daughters until they marry. The husband becomes Lord/King
4. Bastards or uncles? I'm not sure if either are eligible.
(All from oldest to youngest)
Right now Robb is "King in the North" / Lord of Winterfell, and it's assumed that Bran & Rickon are dead, so Sansa is next in line for Winterfell, so whoever marries her becomes heir to Winterfell if Robb were to die.
If the person is too young to rule, like Joffrey, the mother/guardian holds power until he comes of age. In middle age succession, you can't become the heir by marrying someone. It would be their children who inherit Winterfell. Sansa would also be the main liege that Northerners would bend the knee to since she's a direct descendant of the Stark bloodline and the First Men while Loras is a Southerner and of the Andals. When it comes to Stark-Tyrell children, I think the oldest son inherits Winterfell and takes up the Stark surname while younger children inherit Loras Tyrell's lands. Bastards are not eligible at all in real life generally, but then why would they be hunted down in GoT? I assume that a bastard has just as much claim to the throne as a legitimate son in westoros. If there are no sons or daughters it moves to eldest brother of the king/queen, then thier children, then next eldest, then their children, then finally sisters, their children, ect Finaly if none can be found, it goes to eldest uncle and then repeats, his eldest son, his eldest grandson ect. Stark-Tyrell eldest son once the parents die, as far as i am aware, would carry the title Lord of High Garden and Winterfell, ie Lord of both houses. As for the marraige, Tyrell would be Lord of the high garden and sansa would be Lady of Winterfel.
fairly certain that a bastard has more claim than someone not related to the king though.
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On April 28 2013 12:03 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 08:01 UdderChaos wrote:On April 28 2013 04:20 LoLAdriankat wrote:On April 28 2013 01:45 Jophess wrote:
I believe this is the line of succession for Westeros:
1. True born sons
2. Brothers
3. Daughters until they marry. The husband becomes Lord/King
4. Bastards or uncles? I'm not sure if either are eligible.
(All from oldest to youngest)
Right now Robb is "King in the North" / Lord of Winterfell, and it's assumed that Bran & Rickon are dead, so Sansa is next in line for Winterfell, so whoever marries her becomes heir to Winterfell if Robb were to die.
If the person is too young to rule, like Joffrey, the mother/guardian holds power until he comes of age. In middle age succession, you can't become the heir by marrying someone. It would be their children who inherit Winterfell. Sansa would also be the main liege that Northerners would bend the knee to since she's a direct descendant of the Stark bloodline and the First Men while Loras is a Southerner and of the Andals. When it comes to Stark-Tyrell children, I think the oldest son inherits Winterfell and takes up the Stark surname while younger children inherit Loras Tyrell's lands. Bastards are not eligible at all in real life generally, but then why would they be hunted down in GoT? I assume that a bastard has just as much claim to the throne as a legitimate son in westoros. If there are no sons or daughters it moves to eldest brother of the king/queen, then thier children, then next eldest, then their children, then finally sisters, their children, ect Finaly if none can be found, it goes to eldest uncle and then repeats, his eldest son, his eldest grandson ect. Stark-Tyrell eldest son once the parents die, as far as i am aware, would carry the title Lord of High Garden and Winterfell, ie Lord of both houses. As for the marraige, Tyrell would be Lord of the high garden and sansa would be Lady of Winterfel. fairly certain that a bastard has more claim than someone not related to the king though.
Then Joffrey knew that his father was Jaime. Since he was the one that ordered the murders.
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On April 28 2013 13:48 Emnjay808 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 12:03 PrinceXizor wrote:On April 28 2013 08:01 UdderChaos wrote:On April 28 2013 04:20 LoLAdriankat wrote:On April 28 2013 01:45 Jophess wrote:
I believe this is the line of succession for Westeros:
1. True born sons
2. Brothers
3. Daughters until they marry. The husband becomes Lord/King
4. Bastards or uncles? I'm not sure if either are eligible.
(All from oldest to youngest)
Right now Robb is "King in the North" / Lord of Winterfell, and it's assumed that Bran & Rickon are dead, so Sansa is next in line for Winterfell, so whoever marries her becomes heir to Winterfell if Robb were to die.
If the person is too young to rule, like Joffrey, the mother/guardian holds power until he comes of age. In middle age succession, you can't become the heir by marrying someone. It would be their children who inherit Winterfell. Sansa would also be the main liege that Northerners would bend the knee to since she's a direct descendant of the Stark bloodline and the First Men while Loras is a Southerner and of the Andals. When it comes to Stark-Tyrell children, I think the oldest son inherits Winterfell and takes up the Stark surname while younger children inherit Loras Tyrell's lands. Bastards are not eligible at all in real life generally, but then why would they be hunted down in GoT? I assume that a bastard has just as much claim to the throne as a legitimate son in westoros. If there are no sons or daughters it moves to eldest brother of the king/queen, then thier children, then next eldest, then their children, then finally sisters, their children, ect Finaly if none can be found, it goes to eldest uncle and then repeats, his eldest son, his eldest grandson ect. Stark-Tyrell eldest son once the parents die, as far as i am aware, would carry the title Lord of High Garden and Winterfell, ie Lord of both houses. As for the marraige, Tyrell would be Lord of the high garden and sansa would be Lady of Winterfel. fairly certain that a bastard has more claim than someone not related to the king though. Then Joffrey knew that his father was Jaime. Since he was the one that ordered the murders.
it's fully possible he's just a jealous and nervous a-hole.
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On April 28 2013 13:48 Emnjay808 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 12:03 PrinceXizor wrote:On April 28 2013 08:01 UdderChaos wrote:On April 28 2013 04:20 LoLAdriankat wrote:On April 28 2013 01:45 Jophess wrote:
I believe this is the line of succession for Westeros:
1. True born sons
2. Brothers
3. Daughters until they marry. The husband becomes Lord/King
4. Bastards or uncles? I'm not sure if either are eligible.
(All from oldest to youngest)
Right now Robb is "King in the North" / Lord of Winterfell, and it's assumed that Bran & Rickon are dead, so Sansa is next in line for Winterfell, so whoever marries her becomes heir to Winterfell if Robb were to die.
If the person is too young to rule, like Joffrey, the mother/guardian holds power until he comes of age. In middle age succession, you can't become the heir by marrying someone. It would be their children who inherit Winterfell. Sansa would also be the main liege that Northerners would bend the knee to since she's a direct descendant of the Stark bloodline and the First Men while Loras is a Southerner and of the Andals. When it comes to Stark-Tyrell children, I think the oldest son inherits Winterfell and takes up the Stark surname while younger children inherit Loras Tyrell's lands. Bastards are not eligible at all in real life generally, but then why would they be hunted down in GoT? I assume that a bastard has just as much claim to the throne as a legitimate son in westoros. If there are no sons or daughters it moves to eldest brother of the king/queen, then thier children, then next eldest, then their children, then finally sisters, their children, ect Finaly if none can be found, it goes to eldest uncle and then repeats, his eldest son, his eldest grandson ect. Stark-Tyrell eldest son once the parents die, as far as i am aware, would carry the title Lord of High Garden and Winterfell, ie Lord of both houses. As for the marraige, Tyrell would be Lord of the high garden and sansa would be Lady of Winterfel. fairly certain that a bastard has more claim than someone not related to the king though. Then Joffrey knew that his father was Jaime. Since he was the one that ordered the murders.
Which murders?
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On April 28 2013 14:01 schmutttt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 13:48 Emnjay808 wrote:On April 28 2013 12:03 PrinceXizor wrote:On April 28 2013 08:01 UdderChaos wrote:On April 28 2013 04:20 LoLAdriankat wrote:On April 28 2013 01:45 Jophess wrote:
I believe this is the line of succession for Westeros:
1. True born sons
2. Brothers
3. Daughters until they marry. The husband becomes Lord/King
4. Bastards or uncles? I'm not sure if either are eligible.
(All from oldest to youngest)
Right now Robb is "King in the North" / Lord of Winterfell, and it's assumed that Bran & Rickon are dead, so Sansa is next in line for Winterfell, so whoever marries her becomes heir to Winterfell if Robb were to die.
If the person is too young to rule, like Joffrey, the mother/guardian holds power until he comes of age. In middle age succession, you can't become the heir by marrying someone. It would be their children who inherit Winterfell. Sansa would also be the main liege that Northerners would bend the knee to since she's a direct descendant of the Stark bloodline and the First Men while Loras is a Southerner and of the Andals. When it comes to Stark-Tyrell children, I think the oldest son inherits Winterfell and takes up the Stark surname while younger children inherit Loras Tyrell's lands. Bastards are not eligible at all in real life generally, but then why would they be hunted down in GoT? I assume that a bastard has just as much claim to the throne as a legitimate son in westoros. If there are no sons or daughters it moves to eldest brother of the king/queen, then thier children, then next eldest, then their children, then finally sisters, their children, ect Finaly if none can be found, it goes to eldest uncle and then repeats, his eldest son, his eldest grandson ect. Stark-Tyrell eldest son once the parents die, as far as i am aware, would carry the title Lord of High Garden and Winterfell, ie Lord of both houses. As for the marraige, Tyrell would be Lord of the high garden and sansa would be Lady of Winterfel. fairly certain that a bastard has more claim than someone not related to the king though. Then Joffrey knew that his father was Jaime. Since he was the one that ordered the murders. Which murders?
All the black-haired babies and young children in King's Landing (under the assumption that they could be King Robert's bastards), including that one girl who was the whore's baby daughter. Ned visited her in season 1 when he was trying to solve the "seed is strong" mystery and near the beginning of season 2 we saw Janos Slynt kill the baby under Joffrey's orders. That was Tyrion's reason for sending Slynt north to the Wall.
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On April 28 2013 13:48 Emnjay808 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 12:03 PrinceXizor wrote:On April 28 2013 08:01 UdderChaos wrote:On April 28 2013 04:20 LoLAdriankat wrote:On April 28 2013 01:45 Jophess wrote:
I believe this is the line of succession for Westeros:
1. True born sons
2. Brothers
3. Daughters until they marry. The husband becomes Lord/King
4. Bastards or uncles? I'm not sure if either are eligible.
(All from oldest to youngest)
Right now Robb is "King in the North" / Lord of Winterfell, and it's assumed that Bran & Rickon are dead, so Sansa is next in line for Winterfell, so whoever marries her becomes heir to Winterfell if Robb were to die.
If the person is too young to rule, like Joffrey, the mother/guardian holds power until he comes of age. In middle age succession, you can't become the heir by marrying someone. It would be their children who inherit Winterfell. Sansa would also be the main liege that Northerners would bend the knee to since she's a direct descendant of the Stark bloodline and the First Men while Loras is a Southerner and of the Andals. When it comes to Stark-Tyrell children, I think the oldest son inherits Winterfell and takes up the Stark surname while younger children inherit Loras Tyrell's lands. Bastards are not eligible at all in real life generally, but then why would they be hunted down in GoT? I assume that a bastard has just as much claim to the throne as a legitimate son in westoros. If there are no sons or daughters it moves to eldest brother of the king/queen, then thier children, then next eldest, then their children, then finally sisters, their children, ect Finaly if none can be found, it goes to eldest uncle and then repeats, his eldest son, his eldest grandson ect. Stark-Tyrell eldest son once the parents die, as far as i am aware, would carry the title Lord of High Garden and Winterfell, ie Lord of both houses. As for the marraige, Tyrell would be Lord of the high garden and sansa would be Lady of Winterfel. fairly certain that a bastard has more claim than someone not related to the king though. Then Joffrey knew that his father was Jaime. Since he was the one that ordered the murders.
Wasn't that Cersei who ordered the murders?
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No. I remember there being a scene where Cersei was talking to someone (probably Tyrion) and he commented how she couldn't even control her own son.
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On April 28 2013 14:47 doktorLucifer wrote:
No. I remember there being a scene where Cersei was talking to someone (probably Tyrion) and he commented how she couldn't even control her own son.
Cercei clearly implied in the scene that you describe(it was with Tyrion), that Joffrey ordered the killings. Whether he actually did or she was just attempting to deceive Tyrion is another matter.
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I felt loads of sympathy when he said "my real father lost his head in King's Landing."
His choice was a tough one. Family in Westeros in everything.
If he goes with Robb then he's an outcast to his childhood home and it is seen as dishonourable I think. He still cares about the Greyjoy family.
And we see what happens when he chose the other side. More ****. But more importantly he feels like he let Ned Stark down? And that's worthy of sympathy because it shows he knows he chose wrong and why.
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On April 28 2013 14:47 doktorLucifer wrote:
No. I remember there being a scene where Cersei was talking to someone (probably Tyrion) and he commented how she couldn't even control her own son.
I'm pretty sure she was referring to Bran's would-be assassination.
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On April 29 2013 03:27 kafkaesque wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 14:47 doktorLucifer wrote:
No. I remember there being a scene where Cersei was talking to someone (probably Tyrion) and he commented how she couldn't even control her own son. I'm pretty sure she was referring to Bran's would-be assassination.
Nah, that was about the baby killings. Beginning of seconds season, 2nd or 3rd episode, Tyrion accuses her of ordering the killings. She doesn't say anything. Than he says something like "You don't even have the decency to deny it". Then when she still doesn't say anything he goes "It wasn't you who gave the orders, was it?"
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I shouldn't be posting here, you guys seem to know every scene from past seasons by heart.
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On April 29 2013 04:29 kafkaesque wrote:
I shouldn't be posting here, you guys seem to know every scene from past seasons by heart.
There is a chance that the majority of us have seen them double digits amount of times..
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Of course.. >_> xD They don't want to die..
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It's a rising show and they at the very least have to finish the third book, I'm not surprised to see the show getting renewed.
My only concern is let's say Martin takes his time writing book 6, will the season catch up to the books and have to wait for Martin to finish the seventh?
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???? Why would anyone renew GoT??!??!
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On April 29 2013 05:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
It's a rising show and they at the very least have to finish the third book, I'm not surprised to see the show getting renewed.
My only concern is let's say Martin takes his time writing book 6, will the season catch up to the books and have to wait for Martin to finish the seventh?
Took him 15yrs to finish one book if I remember correctly. That worries me with 1 season roughly per book. That doesn't give him much time to write the books. Hopefully they don't start making filler episodes.
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