Hey, I love the UK. The only US-based world on the list (there's a reason for the dearth, we're worse at stories) is the least interesting and fleshed out world there. The UK invented modern fantasy, and they still do it better, and probably always will.
But fantasy means the making manifest of moral struggles. So the authors, to talk about things in a relevant way, are going to have to rely on their world. There are ways of getting around the issue of allegorizing our worldview, but I don't personally find them generally as convincing (His Dark Materials, set in our world with minor changes, for example).
Long story short, Brits rock, and their literature blows ours out of the water in every medium except film. And even then many of our best are adaptations of their stuff.
Britain isn't really Martin's world though. Martin was born in New Jersey.
Cersei was gifted every conceivable advantage a women in Westeros could have. Wealthiest father in the land, married the King, lover with best knight in the land.
she's now in a spot where she has largely lost control of her son (the King, btw) and is in an emerging political battle with 2 women who just arrived in KL (Margaery and her grandmother). forced to beg her father to listen to her, who then tells her she's not all that.
Dany meanwhile is a teenage married off to a barbarian tribe who has no respect for him or her brother. she has nothing. she forces the leader of that tribe to respect her and he falls for her. she gets dragons gifted to her, sure, but is smart enough to reject the false help of everyone in Qarth, survives the traps there, and then has the foresight to use the dragons to gain a huge army for free (this may seem LDO as a plan, but both Selmy and Mormont were dead set against this).
Hey, I love the UK. The only US-based world on the list (there's a reason for the dearth, we're worse at stories) is the least interesting and fleshed out world there. The UK invented modern fantasy, and they still do it better, and probably always will.
But fantasy means the making manifest of moral struggles. So the authors, to talk about things in a relevant way, are going to have to rely on their world. There are ways of getting around the issue of allegorizing our worldview, but I don't personally find them generally as convincing (His Dark Materials, set in our world with minor changes, for example).
Long story short, Brits rock, and their literature blows ours out of the water in every medium except film. And even then many of our best are adaptations of their stuff.
Britain isn't really Martin's world though. Martin was born in New Jersey.
On April 26 2013 06:41 B1nary wrote: I think it's pretty silly arguing over whether spoilers increase enjoyment or not when it obviously differs from person to person. I don't mind spoilers. Some people do. That's why there's 2 threads.
There's just too many story lines right now:
Jon Snow and Wildlings Sam and nights watch Robb and his rebellion Arya with Robert's son and the assassins Bran and the "Wargs" Theon getting trolled The stuff going on in King's landing Jamie and Brienne Stannis and the fire lady Dany with her dragons
Did I miss any? On average, each story only gets ~5min of screen time per episode. I really look forward to when the different stories start interweaving more and everything comes together.
i think davos is the main character of dragonstone "arc", not stannis XD so much shit happen to him and not much to stannis
Nothing has happened to either this season really. Davos got locked up, and Stannis learned that he has erectile dysfunction so he can't spawn any more assassins
Hey, I love the UK. The only US-based world on the list (there's a reason for the dearth, we're worse at stories) is the least interesting and fleshed out world there. The UK invented modern fantasy, and they still do it better, and probably always will.
But fantasy means the making manifest of moral struggles. So the authors, to talk about things in a relevant way, are going to have to rely on their world. There are ways of getting around the issue of allegorizing our worldview, but I don't personally find them generally as convincing (His Dark Materials, set in our world with minor changes, for example).
Long story short, Brits rock, and their literature blows ours out of the water in every medium except film. And even then many of our best are adaptations of their stuff.
Britain isn't really Martin's world though. Martin was born in New Jersey.
On April 26 2013 06:41 B1nary wrote: I think it's pretty silly arguing over whether spoilers increase enjoyment or not when it obviously differs from person to person. I don't mind spoilers. Some people do. That's why there's 2 threads.
There's just too many story lines right now:
Jon Snow and Wildlings Sam and nights watch Robb and his rebellion Arya with Robert's son and the assassins Bran and the "Wargs" Theon getting trolled The stuff going on in King's landing Jamie and Brienne Stannis and the fire lady Dany with her dragons
Did I miss any? On average, each story only gets ~5min of screen time per episode. I really look forward to when the different stories start interweaving more and everything comes together.
It´s always interweaving, what happens on one end can have consequences in the other end, it´s just that sometimes the impact is more subtle than others.
Also, I was watching the Dothraki hot whore with Dany's brother in the bathtub scene. She was talking about how she saw a knife made from "dragon glass" (not sure if I heard that right), a man who can change his face, and a pirate who wears his weight in gold.
So the whole dragon knife glass thing. Was that the same knife used on the attempted assassination on Bran. Not asking for spoilers, but is it a fair assumption that is the same knife she was referring to. Since it was quite obvious who the face changer and the pirate was lol.
This is a very good show to rewatch, you catch small details like these.
On April 26 2013 11:31 Emnjay808 wrote: Also, I was watching the Dothraki hot whore with Dany's brother in the bathtub scene. She was talking about how she saw a knife made from "dragon glass" (not sure if I heard that right), a man who can change his face, and a pirate who wears his weight in gold.
So the whole dragon knife glass thing. Was that the same knife used on the attempted assassination on Bran. Not asking for spoilers, but is it a fair assumption that is the same knife she was referring to. Since it was quite obvious who the face changer and the pirate was lol.
This is a very good show to rewatch, you catch small details like these.
I think that was Valaryin? steel like Ned starks sword, Jon's sword etc
So the whole dragon knife glass thing. Was that the same knife used on the attempted assassination on Bran. Not asking for spoilers, but is it a fair assumption that is the same knife she was referring to. Since it was quite obvious who the face changer and the pirate was lol.
This is a very good show to rewatch, you catch small details like these.
this is referring to the dragon glass that Sam found at the fist of the first men, IIRC
On April 26 2013 11:31 Emnjay808 wrote: Also, I was watching the Dothraki hot whore with Dany's brother in the bathtub scene. She was talking about how she saw a knife made from "dragon glass" (not sure if I heard that right), a man who can change his face, and a pirate who wears his weight in gold.
So the whole dragon knife glass thing. Was that the same knife used on the attempted assassination on Bran. Not asking for spoilers, but is it a fair assumption that is the same knife she was referring to. Since it was quite obvious who the face changer and the pirate was lol.
This is a very good show to rewatch, you catch small details like these.
I have no idea, Valarian steel and dragon glass are 2 different things. Valarian steel is basically a super sharp sword, think of Damascus steel for all intends and puposes. Dragon glass is what Samwell, Grenn and Edd find near the Fist of the First Men according to the TV show wiki.
Remember that guy that was a total dick to Jon when he joined the Night's watch? I seem to remember the lord Commander sending him for King's landing with the dead hand, but I don't recall what the response was. Did we ever get one?
On April 27 2013 05:47 Faceroll52 wrote: Remember that guy that was a total dick to Jon when he joined the Night's watch? I seem to remember the lord Commander sending him for King's landing with the dead hand, but I don't recall what the response was. Did we ever get one?
I think they just forgot about him, it shouldn't take a full series to get from Castle Black to Kings Landing.
I don't think we'll be seeing Alistair Thorne again.
On April 27 2013 05:47 Faceroll52 wrote: Remember that guy that was a total dick to Jon when he joined the Night's watch? I seem to remember the lord Commander sending him for King's landing with the dead hand, but I don't recall what the response was. Did we ever get one?
I think they just forgot about him, it shouldn't take a full series to get from Castle Black to Kings Landing.
I don't think we'll be seeing Alistair Thorne again.
I would think we see him again, if you recall he was the one who let Tyrion know that the wall needed more men (you hear this in a council meeting and I believe Cersei shrugs it off). This was before the Lord Commander decided to go out into the north and bring the fight there.
On April 26 2013 11:31 Emnjay808 wrote: Also, I was watching the Dothraki hot whore with Dany's brother in the bathtub scene. She was talking about how she saw a knife made from "dragon glass" (not sure if I heard that right), a man who can change his face, and a pirate who wears his weight in gold.
So the whole dragon knife glass thing. Was that the same knife used on the attempted assassination on Bran. Not asking for spoilers, but is it a fair assumption that is the same knife she was referring to. Since it was quite obvious who the face changer and the pirate was lol.
This is a very good show to rewatch, you catch small details like these.
I have no idea, Valarian steel and dragon glass are 2 different things. Valarian steel is basically a super sharp sword, think of Damascus steel for all intends and puposes. Dragon glass is what Samwell, Grenn and Edd find near the Fist of the First Men according to the TV show wiki.
There's really something to this dragon glass/obsidion. Or else why have that scene in the second season? My first reaction was that it was something better than valarian steel or maybe even more rare. Or maybe somehow it's the cryptonite for dragons lol. Though I doubt it since the Targaryens stayed in Dragon Stone for a while which is filled with dragon glass. Have no doubt that it's important somehow.
This video is from Stannis point of view. He talks about the Targaryens in Dragon Stone and and talks about how it's filled with dragon glass. He claims it's totally useless. "Too brittle for war and too sharp for building." The show has made it obvious that he's wrong though in saying it's useless. This also tells us that it's probably not that valuable.