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illsick
United States1770 Posts
On April 10 2013 01:27 Shelke14 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 01:18 VirtuallyJesse wrote:
I feel like a total idiot, I watched the episode last night and I've been thinking and still don't get it. Who is that boy and girl that found/rudely introduced themselves to Bran? And why are they traveling together now? We don't really know other than those two are having dreams about each others lives among other things. It seems Bran has magical capabilities that we don't fully understand yet, just give it a episode or two and I'm sure they will provide more details. (Squall said it better than I did). To respond to Squall, are you sure they can see the future though? I agree on maybe seeing past events but even then I don't even fully believe that yet. The Warg in the North seemed like a very well trained one and it didn't seem like he had any of those "future" seeing powers, he was only able to master the skill of seeing through animals eyes where and when he wanted to. On the other hand, Bran is still only able to do it when he loses control of his mind.... aka when he is sleeping. @ the posts above about why would Jaime try and flee. He doesn't want to show up in cuffs looking like a rag tag bum when he holds probably the most prideful, honorable family name among the kingdoms. Being that they base their whole image on being portrayed a certain way, could you even picture what Tywin would do if his son showed up looking like that in front of the common people.... The guy would probably lose his shit not only on the people that captured his son but also Jaime for damaging the family name. The whole thing about these families is keeping up a perfect image in front of the common people.
I believe, in the last episode. that jojen says it outright that they can see past/future. If you remember last season when winterfell was being ambushed by Theon and company, Bran had a dream of winterfell being swallowed by the sea.
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On April 10 2013 03:17 illsick wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 01:27 Shelke14 wrote:On April 10 2013 01:18 VirtuallyJesse wrote:
I feel like a total idiot, I watched the episode last night and I've been thinking and still don't get it. Who is that boy and girl that found/rudely introduced themselves to Bran? And why are they traveling together now? We don't really know other than those two are having dreams about each others lives among other things. It seems Bran has magical capabilities that we don't fully understand yet, just give it a episode or two and I'm sure they will provide more details. (Squall said it better than I did). To respond to Squall, are you sure they can see the future though? I agree on maybe seeing past events but even then I don't even fully believe that yet. The Warg in the North seemed like a very well trained one and it didn't seem like he had any of those "future" seeing powers, he was only able to master the skill of seeing through animals eyes where and when he wanted to. On the other hand, Bran is still only able to do it when he loses control of his mind.... aka when he is sleeping. @ the posts above about why would Jaime try and flee. He doesn't want to show up in cuffs looking like a rag tag bum when he holds probably the most prideful, honorable family name among the kingdoms. Being that they base their whole image on being portrayed a certain way, could you even picture what Tywin would do if his son showed up looking like that in front of the common people.... The guy would probably lose his shit not only on the people that captured his son but also Jaime for damaging the family name. The whole thing about these families is keeping up a perfect image in front of the common people. I believe, in the last episode. that jojen says it outright that they can see past/future. If you remember last season when winterfell was being ambushed by Theon and company, Bran had a dream of winterfell being swallowed by the sea.
I think the whole Warg thing is done very well. Since the first episodes we see the dreams of Brann in which he was an animal or saw a 3-eyed raven without an explanation. Then there was the guy behind the wall who had the special ability to look through the eyes of a bird, but at that point I didn't make a connection to Brann. Just didn't think of it but you could have seen it coming.
Now these things are put together very nicely I think.
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On April 10 2013 02:28 sc4k wrote:
Enjoying the first two episodes of this season, although I was annoyed by the ginger haired girl who captured Jon Snow saying 'What, you've never seen x before?' regarding the giants and wargs. If she says it one more fucking time...lol.
Also, it's funny how there are now so many storylines that they have to spread them over two episodes to actually cover everyone's progress. Still, I'm on tentahooks to find out how they all turn out, and I can't really say anyone's story is particularly bad. Although I don't enjoy watching Sansa muddle her way through 50 shades of grief. I swear someone could come up to her and offer her a scone and she would spend about 10 seconds staring blankly until she gathered the courage to say something like 'have you got any jam?'
Speaking of 50 shades, pleased that they didn't have too much boobage so far in Season 3. Maybe some focus groups with taste have been consulted. I still feel compelled to warn people about the clumsy addition of teenage road-movie level nudity when I tell them to watch the show. But at least it seems like it MIGHT be getting better.
Is there something wrong with nudity :O?
Love this show, love the nudity 
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On April 10 2013 02:28 sc4k wrote:
Speaking of 50 shades, pleased that they didn't have too much boobage so far in Season 3. Maybe some focus groups with taste have been consulted. I still feel compelled to warn people about the clumsy addition of teenage road-movie level nudity when I tell them to watch the show. But at least it seems like it MIGHT be getting better.
But the part where they were torturing theon was totally fine by you right?
I love GRRM's view on this whole cultural phenomenon:
+ Show Spoiler +I can describe an axe entering a human skull in great explicit detail and no one will blink twice at it. I provide a similar description, just as detailed, of a penis entering a vagina, and I get letters about it and people swearing off. To my mind this is kind of frustrating, it's madness. Ultimately, in the history of [the] world, penises entering vaginas have given a lot of people a lot of pleasure. Axes entering skulls, well, not so much.
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Sandor has got such a cool voice
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On April 10 2013 08:13 scudst0rm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 02:28 sc4k wrote:
Speaking of 50 shades, pleased that they didn't have too much boobage so far in Season 3. Maybe some focus groups with taste have been consulted. I still feel compelled to warn people about the clumsy addition of teenage road-movie level nudity when I tell them to watch the show. But at least it seems like it MIGHT be getting better. But the part where they were torturing theon was totally fine by you right? I love GRRM's view on this whole cultural phenomenon: + Show Spoiler +I can describe an axe entering a human skull in great explicit detail and no one will blink twice at it. I provide a similar description, just as detailed, of a penis entering a vagina, and I get letters about it and people swearing off. To my mind this is kind of frustrating, it's madness. Ultimately, in the history of [the] world, penises entering vaginas have given a lot of people a lot of pleasure. Axes entering skulls, well, not so much.
Yeah, I see it the same way. I find it silly how people complain about sex.
I think GoT has a good level of nudity and violence. It always comes with the story and I enjoy both.
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Warging is the power to enter the mind of an animal (Like the Wildling who controls the bird)
Prescient dreams (seeing things in the past, future, and things in the present 1000 miles away) are a different power. Jojen Reed has this ability.
Bran has both.
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That scene with Lady Stark talking about Jon.. God damn that acting. Fucking 10/10 by her, seriously.
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On April 10 2013 10:40 Fruscainte wrote:
That scene with Lady Stark talking about Jon.. God damn that acting. Fucking 10/10 by her, seriously.
completely agree on this.
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On April 10 2013 02:28 sc4k wrote:
Enjoying the first two episodes of this season, although I was annoyed by the ginger haired girl who captured Jon Snow saying 'What, you've never seen x before?' regarding the giants and wargs. If she says it one more fucking time...lol.
I liked it that he didn't say no when she asked have you never seen a warg before.
He probably thought of Bran.
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On April 10 2013 07:17 Reason wrote:
Speaking of 50 shades, pleased that they didn't have too much boobage so far in Season 3. Maybe some focus groups with taste have been consulted. I still feel compelled to warn people about the clumsy addition of teenage road-movie level nudity when I tell them to watch the show. But at least it seems like it MIGHT be getting better.
It's an adult rated show. What the hell is wrong with some nudity.
I think it's done really well in GoT. Not over the top at all. For example, Spartacus and Rome were so much more explicit.
100 people can get killed in full gory detail and no one complaints but when we see a nipple, all hell breaks lose? Grow up.
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On April 10 2013 18:17 Zandar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 07:17 Reason wrote:
Speaking of 50 shades, pleased that they didn't have too much boobage so far in Season 3. Maybe some focus groups with taste have been consulted. I still feel compelled to warn people about the clumsy addition of teenage road-movie level nudity when I tell them to watch the show. But at least it seems like it MIGHT be getting better. It's an adult rated show. What the hell is wrong with some nudity. I think it's done really well in GoT. Not over the top at all. For example, Spartacus and Rome were so much more explicit. 100 people can get killed in full gory detail and no one complaints but when we see a nipple, all hell breaks lose? Grow up.
We have a word in French that corresponds exactly to GoT's toward sex and violence : racoleur, which means something like enticing but in a very negative way. It's not because Spartacus is even worse that it's not extremely gratuitous and childish in Game of Throne. A serious pretext to tacky content, I'm not surprised this bad show has so much success, especially among geeks.
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On April 10 2013 02:28 sc4k wrote:
Enjoying the first two episodes of this season, although I was annoyed by the ginger haired girl who captured Jon Snow saying 'What, you've never seen x before?' regarding the giants and wargs. If she says it one more fucking time...lol.
Whats the matter Jon Snow? You've never seen a t-rex do a cartwheel before?
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On April 10 2013 18:32 corumjhaelen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 18:17 Zandar wrote:On April 10 2013 07:17 Reason wrote:
Speaking of 50 shades, pleased that they didn't have too much boobage so far in Season 3. Maybe some focus groups with taste have been consulted. I still feel compelled to warn people about the clumsy addition of teenage road-movie level nudity when I tell them to watch the show. But at least it seems like it MIGHT be getting better. It's an adult rated show. What the hell is wrong with some nudity. I think it's done really well in GoT. Not over the top at all. For example, Spartacus and Rome were so much more explicit. 100 people can get killed in full gory detail and no one complaints but when we see a nipple, all hell breaks lose? Grow up. We have a word in French that corresponds exactly to GoT's toward sex and violence : racoleur, which means something like enticing but in a very negative way. It's not because Spartacus is even worse that it's not extremely gratuitous and childish in Game of Throne. A serious pretext to tacky content, I'm not surprised this bad show has so much success, especially among geeks.
Are you kidding?
The content in GoT is fantastic, and the sex and violence are secondary, the characters actually spend minimal time fighting and sex is used as a plot device, you know, just like it is in real life...
The fact that there is sex and violence in this and you are unable to see past it to the plot is -your- shortcoming, not the show's.
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On April 10 2013 18:40 Emnjay808 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 02:28 sc4k wrote:
Enjoying the first two episodes of this season, although I was annoyed by the ginger haired girl who captured Jon Snow saying 'What, you've never seen x before?' regarding the giants and wargs. If she says it one more fucking time...lol. Whats the matter Jon Snow? You've never seen a t-rex do a cartwheel before?
That what funny when it was said 2/3 pages ago...
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On April 10 2013 08:13 scudst0rm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 02:28 sc4k wrote:
Speaking of 50 shades, pleased that they didn't have too much boobage so far in Season 3. Maybe some focus groups with taste have been consulted. I still feel compelled to warn people about the clumsy addition of teenage road-movie level nudity when I tell them to watch the show. But at least it seems like it MIGHT be getting better. But the part where they were torturing theon was totally fine by you right? I love GRRM's view on this whole cultural phenomenon: + Show Spoiler +I can describe an axe entering a human skull in great explicit detail and no one will blink twice at it. I provide a similar description, just as detailed, of a penis entering a vagina, and I get letters about it and people swearing off. To my mind this is kind of frustrating, it's madness. Ultimately, in the history of [the] world, penises entering vaginas have given a lot of people a lot of pleasure. Axes entering skulls, well, not so much.
Even though they try to make the sex scenes relevant for the plot, the actually inclusion of boobs is never really necessary.
It reminds me of what my friend said, 'every time I read GoT I can't escape the image of a sweaty George RR Martin wanking into a sock about Danaerys'.
Some of the finest dramas about some of the most twisted people are able to use zero nudity and virtually zero violence. To me it's a sign of class if you can convey this sort of stuff but not portray it. Unfortunately, class is not the target with modern dramas. See 'I, Claudius' for a show along the lines of what I'm talking about. GoT has fallen victim to needing to 'keep up with the Jones's', and when Spartacus and Rome are 'The Jones's', you need to have your quota of boobage and sloppy 10 second gay blowjob scenes.
I still find it uncomfortable though. Actual boobs belong in porn. Dicks in vaginas belong in porn. Sloppy 10 second gay blowjob scenes belong in gay porn. I get what George is saying, but I completely disagree. Nudity is taboo. Violence is not taboo, it's just illegal. Putting taboo things on a TV show immediately forces people recommending it to preface it. Unless you are recommending it to a male teenager, you will have to say 'yeah just ignore the nudity, the show isn't like that all the way through, it only has like one scene an episode'.
Basically all I'm saying is that GoT has way more class than what I would normally ascribe to a show that has a 'boob quota', and I am certain that if the sex scenes had been included but slightly toned down and all appearances of actual nips removed, you wouldn't have a suddenly worse show but you WOULD have a show that you didn't need to preface when recommending to people (especially females).
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On April 10 2013 10:51 RoMGraViTy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 10:40 Fruscainte wrote:
That scene with Lady Stark talking about Jon.. God damn that acting. Fucking 10/10 by her, seriously. completely agree on this.
i haven't seen any acting below "really fucking good" on the show thus far. Everyone is amazing.
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On April 10 2013 18:17 Zandar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 07:17 Reason wrote:
Speaking of 50 shades, pleased that they didn't have too much boobage so far in Season 3. Maybe some focus groups with taste have been consulted. I still feel compelled to warn people about the clumsy addition of teenage road-movie level nudity when I tell them to watch the show. But at least it seems like it MIGHT be getting better. It's an adult rated show. What the hell is wrong with some nudity. I think it's done really well in GoT. Not over the top at all. For example, Spartacus and Rome were so much more explicit. 100 people can get killed in full gory detail and no one complaints but when we see a nipple, all hell breaks lose? Grow up.
I bet the ones complaining about nudity are watching the show with their parents and feel awkward whenever something sex related comes up. ;D
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Nudity adds to the authenticity.
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On April 10 2013 19:05 jcroisdale wrote:
Nudity adds to the authenticity.
it's at least good to see nudity outside of ravaging porn. i think it's healthy.
that being said i thought it was a bit overdone when i first started watching. but i've come around
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