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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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KwarK
United States43203 Posts
On June 05 2012 21:15 jeremysaint wrote: it was just a poor episode. anticlimatic and some serious plot issues. the iron islanders can just leave after buring down winterfell?!!? the warlock who is immune to getting stabbed in the heart and apparently has magic powers is so stupid he lets himself get burned by baby dragons?!!? daenerys and her handful of soldier/fighter/whatever people can just walk into the king of qarth's home where i guess he has no guards, employees, or defenses whatsoever?!!? You don't feel it was adequately explained what happened in Winterfell but nor does Bran/Theon, the point of view characters. The episode isn't at fault, your understanding is meant to be flawed, if your explanation doesn't make sense then question that. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On June 05 2012 22:31 KwarK wrote: You don't feel it was adequately explained what happened in Winterfell but nor does Bran/Theon, the point of view characters. The episode isn't at fault, your understanding is meant to be flawed, if your explanation doesn't make sense then question that. Actually I agree. There are many things in almost all episodes that they could have done so much better. Main thing in the last one was the warlock fiasco. They presented him kinda like an end boss only to be squashed like a fly in the most silly way possible. Adapting books to movies takes really talented directors. It just so happened that the season 1 directors were that much better than the current ones(yes there are many different directors, not just 1). | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On June 05 2012 21:45 Euronyme wrote: They've been in the frozen wastes for thousands of years.. They've gotta be freezing their balls off. Who wouldn't like a nice bonfire in that position? Seriously though, I have no clue. Lannisters? Tywin doesn't actually know of the Theon business, and I recall Rodric telling Brann that it's probably Lannister payed mercenaries who were raiding the other city when he asked to take it back. Tywin might have come to the same conclusion as Theon and decided to strike Winterfell to buy time to go back to King's Landing and save Joffrey's ass. Tywin being in King's Landing, it seems a strech to say that mercenaries were raiding Winterfell under the Lannister's orders. It seems that the most likely outcome was that either Yara or Balon decided to save Theon, who was likely doomed, and crushed the sieging force, entering the city and burning it down. In this case, Theon's men might have knocked him out in order to forcefully send him back to Pyke (which he refused to do) or to give him to the Starks, who were only later attacked by Yara's men. We will see... | ||
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Gaga
Germany433 Posts
you people should keep that in mind when talking about the warlock guy who was so easily killed by dragon breath. you can immune to a lot of things but the thing that is the source of magic in this world are dragons (warlock said when dragon returned, their magic returned) ... which makes them kinda superior to magic users. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On June 05 2012 22:31 KwarK wrote: You don't feel it was adequately explained what happened in Winterfell but nor does Bran/Theon, the point of view characters. The episode isn't at fault, your understanding is meant to be flawed, if your explanation doesn't make sense then question that. Lol the Ironborn had a pact (if you recall Robb's terms). They would be allowed to leave but Theon must be given up alive. As to why Winterfell was burned, it's the plot. Dragons are dragons. Their magic is stronger than the Warlock's. In fact the warlocks even said that their magic derives from Dragons. Dany and her guards were guests in Xaro's house so it's easy for them to just waltz in. | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On June 05 2012 22:46 Steveling wrote: It just so happened that the season 1 directors were that much better than the current ones You have no idea what you're talking about. The exact same director did both season finales. Any disappointment you have with this season's finale has nothing at all to do with the director. | ||
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Rickh
14 Posts
I didnt really get the whole Xaro's situation tho :s | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On June 06 2012 00:59 Rickson  )) wrote:I so am going to buy the books i just cant wait for another year. I didnt really get the whole Xaro's situation tho :s Make sure you start reading from book one so you can read about the awesome stuff they left out of Seasons 1 and 2. | ||
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albis
United States652 Posts
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SKDN
Sweden243 Posts
On June 05 2012 21:24 Nizaris wrote: obviously not, which probably means some third-party came in and raped every1. we will know next season i'm sure. Maybe theons father came with all the troops? I mean they had sent ravens but no responses? so maybe they were on their way? but sounds highly unlikely, Maybe they just knocked him out, burned everything to the ground and used one of the escape tunnels, but Im not sure how they would know about those tunnels | ||
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shizna
United Kingdom803 Posts
it's not like every soldier from the north would die to save the starks or winterfell... what makes you think some of the northmen wouldn't think to spit on winterfell if they had half a chance? there are very few 'honorable' people in westeros! | ||
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Tewks44
United States2032 Posts
Earlier Robb said he would accept the surrender of every iron born soldier with the exception of Theon Greyjoy. Word probably got to the soldiers in Winterfell. Now, they're in a tough spot. They know they don't stand a chance, but they can't just explain this plan to Theon. So they knock him out, throw him in a cell somewhere, and exit the gates to surrender to the Northmen. However this theory would imply that its the Northmen that burn down Winterfell. As strange as that sounds, I think it's the most likely. From what I could tell Dagmer just wanted to go home, he didn't seem to have any fight in him, and the last we saw of him he said "let's go home" | ||
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CursedRich
United Kingdom737 Posts
On June 05 2012 21:15 jeremysaint wrote: it was just a poor episode. anticlimatic and some serious plot issues. the iron islanders can just leave after buring down winterfell?!!? the warlock who is immune to getting stabbed in the heart and apparently has magic powers is so stupid he lets himself get burned by baby dragons?!!? daenerys and her handful of soldier/fighter/whatever people can just walk into the king of qarth's home where i guess he has no guards, employees, or defenses whatsoever?!!? Patience mate, they will explain anything that seems odd now in future episodes | ||
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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
On June 06 2012 01:36 shizna wrote: ppl are reading too deeply into the 'who burned winterfell' conspiracy. it's not like every soldier from the north would die to save the starks or winterfell... what makes you think some of the northmen wouldn't think to spit on winterfell if they had half a chance? there are very few 'honorable' people in westeros! You need to also remember who was sent out. The bastard from the Dreadfort, a Bolten. Ya know, those guys with the flayed man on their banner with the words "a flayed man has no secrets". These are not nice people, so it would make sense. Hell they could probably bring Theon back and tell Robb that the Winterfull was burnt before they got there. xD | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On June 06 2012 00:45 Serejai wrote: You have no idea what you're talking about. The exact same director did both season finales. Any disappointment you have with this season's finale has nothing at all to do with the director. I obviously meant that last season last episode was bad as well, xP. But actually you are right, they aren't to blame. The guys writing the script and Martin are. | ||
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
holy shit hahahaha :D :D :D :D i was expecting his new face :D :D :D well done. | ||
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On June 05 2012 20:48 zatic wrote: Too bad Dany killed the most interesting part about her story arc: Doreah, you will be missed  RIP | ||
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Quexana
98 Posts
On June 06 2012 01:51 Steveling wrote: I obviously meant that last season last episode was bad as well, xP. But actually you are right, they aren't to blame. The guys writing the script and Martin are. Martin is not to blame, most of the problems people are having with the end of the 2nd season have to do with the way the show runners have deviated from Martin's book, not the way they are alike. The burning of Winterfell is a key part of the story and one that I am 100% certain will be explained next season, but it's not Martin's fault. In Martin's version of the story there was absolutely no ambiguity about who burned Winterfell and why. Also people are having problems with the Dany storyline, also not Martin's fault. The entire sequence in the House of the Undying and afterwards is different from the book to the show. Granted, I believe, it needed to be changed. The original sequence in the House of the Undying is probably unfilmable. Yet, the choices they made in how they changed it can be called into question. Overall, I think they did okay with the Dany storyline though. However you slice it though, neither of the major problems people have with the season finale is the fault of Martin. | ||
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