On June 06 2015 18:09 Shock710 wrote: oh shit ur right O_O omg that evil person...danny definitely should have just let her die
Weeeell... you say that, but had she let her die, she would not have dragons. It's by stepping in the fire which was burning Khal Drogo and Mirri Maz Duur that she was able to hatch them.
It's interesting to look at the events from that perspective. Dany kills Mirri Maz Duur, Khal Drogo never dies, and Dany does not get her dragons. Whole story would be changed just from that one event.
On June 06 2015 15:44 B.I.G. wrote: It seems to me that if they would get a few giants and make gigantic scythes for them they would own the shit out of that undead army. Did you see what just one of them did with a tree or pole (whatever it was) and those sweeps? Top it off with a cage on his back that holds one or two archers and you have a giant clump of destruction.
Also this guy has a pretty solid theory about Jon Snow's mother pieced together from just the TV show. No spoilers if you are up to date with the show (no book references whatsoever). [mod edit: book spoilers]
Actually, this is clearly book inspired. To the point where at 8:30ish in the clip he says "Even Ned Stark had nothing bad to say about him in the books". And goes on to expand about more book history after that. Gonna edit it out for that reason.
Yes I guess he did end up referring to the books for confirmation. Probably a good call to get rid of it, sorry bout that.
On June 06 2015 03:29 Ouija wrote: Small thing to add to dbizzles post
#6 The first scene from this season answers this question for you. Cersei is worried about the prophecy she was told as a child and she believes that Margaery is this more beautiful woman who has come to push her aside and take everything that she holds dear.
i agree with this, but on another note with the prophecy/witch lady, are we even sure its a prophecy all she said was ur kids have gold hair (well...if u think about it all lanisters seem to have gold hair, i know the bartheon black hair gene is more dominate as ned found out but i assume with so many blonde lanisters their blonde hair gene is more dominant than most.
I thought it was like a flash back but really to show why cersi is acting like this because she believes its true, but it probably was just fortuneteller bullshit) and the queen thing, well idk it think its just to spite cersi, theres alot of princesses and queens of other places right? magergy is consider a princess/queen of highgarden? (not sure about this but i think so?) and i guess sansa and arya would kind be princesses? and walder frey had like a million daughters which are consider royalty (i think?) or even if the moonlady had had a girl instead of robin
also people are saying they're going to trial by combat to get out of it with zombie mountain, well if its not loras vs the mountain i dont see why it would work like that, it should loras trail by combat vs some random sparrow dude (easy win) and for cersi zombie mountain obliterates whoever hes up against, i really really doubt anyone is going to be able to beat loras (who was on par with jamie right a bit weaker? before he lost his hand beat him in a joust i know thats not a full fight but hes pretty strong, lost to briene but she was even handling jamie for a bit)
I think thats how they're gonna get out of it and maybe theres like a double jeopardy thing too? where if they've won the trail they cant be reaccused of the same thing as the gods let them win. Then i the sparrow is gonna basically die reinstall a corrupt septon and on with the fight between margery and cersi
No, it's quite clear that the only ones considered royalty are kings or their heirs. Balon Greyjoy is a king, so Theon might have kingsblood, technically. Possibly, the same could be true for the surviving starks, due to Robb's tenure as king, though it's less likely. Mostly, however, it's Baratheons (or maybe Targaryens) that are used for the purpose of kingsblood, like in Melisandre's blood rituals.
Margaery, of course is the queen, not of Highgarden but of the iron throne.
ah okay, well i guess then the witch lady could have just guessed that u know cersi being part of the powerful lanister family was probably going to marry some royalty (tywin deals) and since the witch already gave her kids its alright to assume that her kid who is now royalty will marry some girl who will replace her as queen (as for a more beautiful queen, well cersi's old now and its just a spiteful thing to say cause cersi was acting like an entitled prick) just basically the scene was to show why cersi hates margergy more so than margergy trying to cuddle up to tommen and stop cersi being queen (which she shouldnt even be trying to fight for, isnt it common that cersi should just lose her power once tommen is married, its not something shes entitled to she just hates margergy)
Guessed!!!????!?!?! In the world of GoT we have dragons, white walkers, wargs , and much much more. Blood magic is real. We saw it during season 2 when Miir Maaz Durr ( i think thats how you spell her name ) tried using blood magic to heal khal drogo. That didn't work out well IMO because she told jorah/daenarys that once the ritual begins that no one may enter the tent, but they went ahead and did anyway because daenarys was about to give birth to her son. The witch also said that this queen would take everything she holds dear. Joffery obviously is dead now, and we and cersei have both seen margaery essentially manipulating little tommen. The prophecy is real. I dont believe that the woman to take her spot in this prophecy is margaery, but cersei is not willing to take that risk.
For those interested in rewatching this prophecy being told --
Yeah theres alot of magical things in the show but the witch in the tent said like two super vague probabale things (isnt that how fortune tellers work?) idk for its like she was giving cersi something then turning it back to hurt her, like when she said oh yes u'll be queen but a more beautiful queen will come and knock you off the throne. I think margery is the queen to knock her off (if it was a real prophecy) but just seems like another queen coming to to replace you is quite likely in this world, conquest, ur kid marrying someone else, idk some female assassin who is a lost princess (like if danny turned into a ninja lol) hhahaha but yeah so far the queen would take everything that she holds dear right, joffery didnt really die to margery more like olena and marcia was sent to dorne by tyrion (i cant really see her dying anytime seeing how dorne loves her and jamie is on okay terms with them tommen (might die cause i think hes a wimp and dont see being importnat to the story) and i dont think it'll be margery who kills tommen or olena i just feel like this "prophecy" was too vague (then again most are )
The witch prophesied that Cersei would marry the King, not the Prince she was promised to. That's a big guess to just be a coincidence. And more convincingly, she prophesied that the King would have 20 children and Cersei would only have 3. Cersei has 3 children and Robert had a lot more although I don't think we know the exact number without trusting the prophecy.
Parts of the prophecy are too specific to be regular fortune teller crap. However, other parts are still vague enough to have multiple meanings. Overall, a very interesting prophecy that is meant to convey true magic, but still keeps us guessing.
On June 06 2015 20:50 Sterlymobile wrote: Just by going off the no sound coming from outside the Hardhome gates. It looked like the people died pretty instantly. Maybe Whitewalkers got some sick Frost Psi Storm ability thing, I mean people were running from something which I want to know what. I don't like how they only showed two of the four Whitewalkers unless the other two were just the horses.
On June 06 2015 18:09 Shock710 wrote: oh shit ur right O_O omg that evil person...danny definitely should have just let her die
Weeeell... you say that, but had she let her die, she would not have dragons. It's by stepping in the fire which was burning Khal Drogo and Mirri Maz Duur that she was able to hatch them.
It's interesting to look at the events from that perspective. Dany kills Mirri Maz Duur, Khal Drogo never dies, and Dany does not get her dragons. Whole story would be changed just from that one event.
On June 06 2015 18:09 Shock710 wrote: oh shit ur right O_O omg that evil person...danny definitely should have just let her die
Weeeell... you say that, but had she let her die, she would not have dragons. It's by stepping in the fire which was burning Khal Drogo and Mirri Maz Duur that she was able to hatch them.
It's interesting to look at the events from that perspective. Dany kills Mirri Maz Duur, Khal Drogo never dies, and Dany does not get her dragons. Whole story would be changed just from that one event.
From Westeros POV atm, nothing changed ^^
It could change actually, Khal Drogo would be probably alive and will cross to Westeros.
On June 06 2015 03:29 Ouija wrote: Small thing to add to dbizzles post
#6 The first scene from this season answers this question for you. Cersei is worried about the prophecy she was told as a child and she believes that Margaery is this more beautiful woman who has come to push her aside and take everything that she holds dear.
i agree with this, but on another note with the prophecy/witch lady, are we even sure its a prophecy all she said was ur kids have gold hair (well...if u think about it all lanisters seem to have gold hair, i know the bartheon black hair gene is more dominate as ned found out but i assume with so many blonde lanisters their blonde hair gene is more dominant than most.
I thought it was like a flash back but really to show why cersi is acting like this because she believes its true, but it probably was just fortuneteller bullshit) and the queen thing, well idk it think its just to spite cersi, theres alot of princesses and queens of other places right? magergy is consider a princess/queen of highgarden? (not sure about this but i think so?) and i guess sansa and arya would kind be princesses? and walder frey had like a million daughters which are consider royalty (i think?) or even if the moonlady had had a girl instead of robin
also people are saying they're going to trial by combat to get out of it with zombie mountain, well if its not loras vs the mountain i dont see why it would work like that, it should loras trail by combat vs some random sparrow dude (easy win) and for cersi zombie mountain obliterates whoever hes up against, i really really doubt anyone is going to be able to beat loras (who was on par with jamie right a bit weaker? before he lost his hand beat him in a joust i know thats not a full fight but hes pretty strong, lost to briene but she was even handling jamie for a bit)
I think thats how they're gonna get out of it and maybe theres like a double jeopardy thing too? where if they've won the trail they cant be reaccused of the same thing as the gods let them win. Then i the sparrow is gonna basically die reinstall a corrupt septon and on with the fight between margery and cersi
No, it's quite clear that the only ones considered royalty are kings or their heirs. Balon Greyjoy is a king, so Theon might have kingsblood, technically. Possibly, the same could be true for the surviving starks, due to Robb's tenure as king, though it's less likely. Mostly, however, it's Baratheons (or maybe Targaryens) that are used for the purpose of kingsblood, like in Melisandre's blood rituals.
Margaery, of course is the queen, not of Highgarden but of the iron throne.
ah okay, well i guess then the witch lady could have just guessed that u know cersi being part of the powerful lanister family was probably going to marry some royalty (tywin deals) and since the witch already gave her kids its alright to assume that her kid who is now royalty will marry some girl who will replace her as queen (as for a more beautiful queen, well cersi's old now and its just a spiteful thing to say cause cersi was acting like an entitled prick) just basically the scene was to show why cersi hates margergy more so than margergy trying to cuddle up to tommen and stop cersi being queen (which she shouldnt even be trying to fight for, isnt it common that cersi should just lose her power once tommen is married, its not something shes entitled to she just hates margergy)
Guessed!!!????!?!?! In the world of GoT we have dragons, white walkers, wargs , and much much more. Blood magic is real. We saw it during season 2 when Miir Maaz Durr ( i think thats how you spell her name ) tried using blood magic to heal khal drogo. That didn't work out well IMO because she told jorah/daenarys that once the ritual begins that no one may enter the tent, but they went ahead and did anyway because daenarys was about to give birth to her son. The witch also said that this queen would take everything she holds dear. Joffery obviously is dead now, and we and cersei have both seen margaery essentially manipulating little tommen. The prophecy is real. I dont believe that the woman to take her spot in this prophecy is margaery, but cersei is not willing to take that risk.
Yeah theres alot of magical things in the show but the witch in the tent said like two super vague probabale things (isnt that how fortune tellers work?) idk for its like she was giving cersi something then turning it back to hurt her, like when she said oh yes u'll be queen but a more beautiful queen will come and knock you off the throne. I think margery is the queen to knock her off (if it was a real prophecy) but just seems like another queen coming to to replace you is quite likely in this world, conquest, ur kid marrying someone else, idk some female assassin who is a lost princess (like if danny turned into a ninja lol) hhahaha but yeah so far the queen would take everything that she holds dear right, joffery didnt really die to margery more like olena and marcia was sent to dorne by tyrion (i cant really see her dying anytime seeing how dorne loves her and jamie is on okay terms with them tommen (might die cause i think hes a wimp and dont see being importnat to the story) and i dont think it'll be margery who kills tommen or olena i just feel like this "prophecy" was too vague (then again most are )
The witch prophesied that Cersei would marry the King, not the Prince she was promised to. That's a big guess to just be a coincidence. And more convincingly, she prophesied that the King would have 20 children and Cersei would only have 3. Cersei has 3 children and Robert had a lot more although I don't think we know the exact number without trusting the prophecy.
Parts of the prophecy are too specific to be regular fortune teller crap. However, other parts are still vague enough to have multiple meanings. Overall, a very interesting prophecy that is meant to convey true magic, but still keeps us guessing.
oh yeah, you're right i totally forgot about the 20 kids but only 3 will be hers O_O opps lol. I guess it is a prophecy that bit is way to accurate to just be coincidence
On June 06 2015 18:09 Shock710 wrote: oh shit ur right O_O omg that evil person...danny definitely should have just let her die
Weeeell... you say that, but had she let her die, she would not have dragons. It's by stepping in the fire which was burning Khal Drogo and Mirri Maz Duur that she was able to hatch them.
It's interesting to look at the events from that perspective. Dany kills Mirri Maz Duur, Khal Drogo never dies, and Dany does not get her dragons. Whole story would be changed just from that one event.
From Westeros POV atm, nothing changed ^^
It could change actually, Khal Drogo would be probably alive and will cross to Westeros.
Yup, Dani is also going
Dani now is much scarier than Khal Drogo. No dragons = no go
It's almost has if HBO knows that only have two seasons left after this one so they have to eliminate almost every other major character in hopes of having enough time to try and finish whatever story-line they have decided on. If it wasn't for Hardhome this season could almost be considered filler IMO.
Only person still contending for the throne who is still remotely worthy is Dany. Stannis can really go die now. YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE OUR RIGHTEOUS SAVIOR STANNIS WHYYYYYYYYYYYY
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