Grey Worm didn't suffer any directly fatal injury that I could see, other than potentially bleeding to death in the next episode. Selmy is dead though, I cannot see someone of his age and with that last injury surviving and it seemed as if Grey Worm already noticed he died.
Curious how this will affect Daenarys. She is a Targaryen in the end and sort of has dragons (atleast two in chains) which could be a nasty combination if she loses it over this, added to the fact she is trying to be a peaceful ruler and gets this in response. I could maybe even see Drogon coming back sensing her fury though it's doubtful. She was obviously shown conversing happily with Selmy earlier so that it she has a good reason to be furious in the next episode but how far they'll go with it, I'm not sure. More likely she'll have the Unsullied plowing through the city dispensing inaccurate 'justice'.
And yeah, Unsullied in close quarters, not so good, though I doubt they were trained for that. Still, they were quite outnumbered and took a lot of harpies down with them.
On May 05 2015 05:20 Thezzy wrote: Grey Worm didn't suffer any directly fatal injury that I could see, other than potentially bleeding to death in the next episode. Selmy is dead though, I cannot see someone of his age and with that last injury surviving and it seemed as if Grey Worm already noticed he died.
Curious how this will affect Daenarys. She is a Targaryen in the end and sort of has dragons (atleast two in chains) which could be a nasty combination if she loses it over this, added to the fact she is trying to be a peaceful ruler and gets this in response. I could maybe even see Drogon coming back sensing her fury though it's doubtful. She was obviously shown conversing happily with Selmy earlier so that it she has a good reason to be furious in the next episode but how far they'll go with it, I'm not sure. More likely she'll have the Unsullied plowing through the city dispensing inaccurate 'justice'.
And yeah, Unsullied in close quarters, not so good, though I doubt they were trained for that. Still, they were quite outnumbered and took a lot of harpies down with them.
Well she likely is going to feel at least partly responsible for his death. She did allow him to go down there in the first place. His duty would have normally been to be by her side.
The question is who does she push that internal and external blame onto... The slaves, the masters, the harpy's , or the whole city.
Deffo an interesting episode. Also Im more sitting here questioning why the red lady says "You know nothing Jon Snow" in kinda the same way as Ygritte used to do it. For all I know she could know it in some way she seems to know way too much.
*also I'm rly sad that noone has died so far, only selmy, pff, I liked him but come on, who cares, he's not important. same for grey worm although the review for next week implies he makes it out alive.
On May 05 2015 05:51 Wita wrote: Deffo an interesting episode. Also Im more sitting here questioning why the red lady says "You know nothing Jon Snow" in kinda the same way as Ygritte used to do it. For all I know she could know it in some way she seems to know way too much.
To me she said it because he will play a critical role in crowning a new king and he's oblivious to the whole thing.
On May 05 2015 05:42 Redox wrote: People really overthinking stuff here with the equipment of the unsullied etc.
We might as well wonder why they do not really look or talk like eunuchs. :D Answer is that its just TV.
Being "just TV" doesn't excuse it from applying assumed accumulated knowledge of warfare of such war-ridden locales and cultures as well as logic.
Contrary to what you may believe, not everyone can suspend all disbelief.
I was not deflecting criticism of the show. I just thought it was a little funny how people are critiszing the unsullied there (not the show), as if they really existed. So it was the other way around, I was surprised about the suspension of disbelief.
On May 05 2015 05:42 Redox wrote: People really overthinking stuff here with the equipment of the unsullied etc.
We might as well wonder why they do not really look or talk like eunuchs. :D Answer is that its just TV.
Being "just TV" doesn't excuse it from applying assumed accumulated knowledge of warfare of such war-ridden locales and cultures as well as logic.
Contrary to what you may believe, not everyone can suspend all disbelief.
It doesn't seem that absurd though. Their spear lengths and shield sizes look fine. Their armor is aesthetically bad (no sleeves), but wearing cloth / padded armor wouldn't be out of the ordinary.
On May 05 2015 05:51 Wita wrote: Deffo an interesting episode. Also Im more sitting here questioning why the red lady says "You know nothing Jon Snow" in kinda the same way as Ygritte used to do it. For all I know she could know it in some way she seems to know way too much.
I thought it was very clear that she was referring to Ygritte there. It was right after Jon had rejected here because of Ygritte. And she had that knowing smile after she said it. The show is hinting at Melisandre's mystic powers.
Btw I normally dont care about the nakedness stuff, but holy shit those boobs of Melisandre. Almost otherworldy. That also makes them very fitting for the character, as strange as that sounds.
Kind off where I was going and Im deffo interested to see how she fares a character. She has a lot of control over Stannis, maybe too much. But she has shown incredible powers, the shadow kill on Stannis' brother could be an example of that,.
On May 05 2015 05:51 Wita wrote: Deffo an interesting episode. Also Im more sitting here questioning why the red lady says "You know nothing Jon Snow" in kinda the same way as Ygritte used to do it. For all I know she could know it in some way she seems to know way too much.
I thought it was very clear that she was referring to Ygritte there. It was right after Jon had rejected here because of Ygritte. And she had that knowing smile after she said it. The show is hinting at Melisandre's mystic powers.
it was a sad moment for me, because it cast a shadow on the memory of Ygritte saying it. And the viewers just got another "subtle" hint besides the black hair that Jon Snow is Baratheon after all: The stuff that Stannis said about it being very unlikely that Ned Stark fathered a child in the way he claimed.
On May 05 2015 07:13 Wolfstan wrote: Why would he be Baratheon? As far as I know there aren't any named female Baratheons unless you think he is Robert, Stannis or Renly's bastard.
We're told Ned's main characteristic is he's an honorable guy who pretty much died doing the right thing instead of playing the game of thrones. He would never cheat on Cat. Or maybe he did. But maybe he didn't, and he was covering for someone else. He could've adopted for instance Robert Baratheon's bastard son to avoid him whatever embarrassment it would have caused with Cercei at the time.
Me and my friend got to theorizing about Jon Snow's real mom and dad. It might be from Robert and that one chick he was mourning to in the underground keep (during S1). Im not sure how to glue the timeline together, but I guess during war Robert got her pregnant and then she died (to Targarian?) Then Ned took up the motherless baby as his own. Robert didnt know she was pregnant.
On May 05 2015 07:13 Wolfstan wrote: Why would he be Baratheon? As far as I know there aren't any named female Baratheons unless you think he is Robert, Stannis or Renly's bastard.
We're told Ned's main characteristic is he's an honorable guy who pretty much died doing the right thing instead of playing the game of thrones. He would never cheat on Cat. Or maybe he did. But maybe he didn't, and he was covering for someone else. He could've adopted for instance Robert Baratheon's bastard son to avoid him whatever embarrassment it would have caused with Cercei at the time.
On May 05 2015 07:13 Wolfstan wrote: Why would he be Baratheon? As far as I know there aren't any named female Baratheons unless you think he is Robert, Stannis or Renly's bastard.
We're told Ned's main characteristic is he's an honorable guy who pretty much died doing the right thing instead of playing the game of thrones. He would never cheat on Cat. Or maybe he did. But maybe he didn't, and he was covering for someone else. He could've adopted for instance Robert Baratheon's bastard son to avoid him whatever embarrassment it would have caused with Cercei at the time.
Seems like a long shot but yeah.
Robert had a ton of bastards though. Why...
Well Robert had a lot of bastards, I think Jon is older than Gendry, maybe Jon happened when having a bastard was especially embarrassing to Robert. Then he started taking Cercei for granted. Sweet, sweet Cercei.
On May 05 2015 07:23 Emnjay808 wrote: Me and my friend got to theorizing about Jon Snow's real mom and dad. It might be from Robert and that one chick he was mourning to in the underground keep (during S1). Im not sure how to glue the timeline together, but I guess during war Robert got her pregnant and then she died (to Targarian?) Then Ned took up the motherless baby as his own. Robert didnt know she was pregnant.
Pretty sure Lyanna was kipnapped before she could get it on with Robert, And I don't see Ned keeping a son between them a secret consider she was the love of his life and taken away from him. The idea of him being a bastard of Robert makes sense tho. It would also explain the sexual interest from Melisandra. As a Baratheon he would have the blood of a king and enable her to do something similar as she did with Stannis shadow child thing.
On May 05 2015 08:05 travis wrote: What interests me most about the red chick is that she is one of the only characters left where I don't really have a read on her motivations.
Also I agree with Redox. It's no coincidence she said the same thing Ygritte would say to him.
I get the idea her motivation is a united seven kingdoms to defend against a white walker invasion but that's pure speculation.
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