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Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
June 03 2014 19:59 GMT
#24421
On June 04 2014 04:16 RCMDVA wrote:
Simple explanation is ...

Mountain = Orson
Oberyn's head = beetle


haha, love it
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
June 03 2014 20:00 GMT
#24422
On June 04 2014 04:27 Mataza wrote:
Bronn uses light armor, I guess leather, which also means he is less agile than Oberyn who was fighting without any armor.
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If Sandor can strike through a block and kill a guy, than the Mountain surely can strike a block and cleave a guy in two.


This post has some strong analysis. Nitpicking on two points:
1) Oberyn was clearly wearing light leather armor. Beats the hell out of me why, but he was wearing pleated leather.
2) Movies sometimes give a bad impression of sword fighting, suggesting that a parry always consists of straight-blocking a blow. This is false. A perpendicular block is a very inefficient move, is easily broken, and is really only done to avoid imminent death. The classic case is a swordsman in the ground defending against a killing chop. But in almost every case, the better move is to deflect the blade aside without properly blocking. Most of the longsword-style fights we've seen in GoT rely on this kind of deflection. Oberyn actually used is quite a few times in his fight, pushing against the flat of the Mountain's blade with the haft of his spear.

On June 04 2014 04:20 Zooper31 wrote:
I took it as the cousin being God and the beetles being everyone else alive in the world. As much as you want to explain and understand why God chooses which people live and die there's just no reason to it sometimes and you have to not obsess over it and move on and just accept it..


I think it's this as well as the Martin thing; Martin is, of course, the god of this world. And it's theologically clever; to everyone with a bugs-eye-view (and a handful of clueless fans) there seems to be no order to the killing. But if you're actually able to step back and look, everybody's arc finishes before they die, either heroically or tragically. You may or may not believe life works like that, but Game of Thrones certainly does.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
June 03 2014 20:04 GMT
#24423
Yeah sort of, first blow knocked him off his horse and the rest he blocked with his shield while on the ground.
Logo
Snotling
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany885 Posts
June 03 2014 20:39 GMT
#24424
Huge dude without a shield? Just let any half skilled archer do the job and be don with it^^
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
June 03 2014 20:43 GMT
#24425
medieval quality arrows couldnt peirce medieval quality full knight armor.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
June 03 2014 20:46 GMT
#24426
On June 04 2014 05:43 turdburgler wrote:
medieval quality arrows couldnt peirce medieval quality full knight armor.


Crossbows could, Joffrey's weapon of choice.
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
June 03 2014 21:03 GMT
#24427
On June 04 2014 05:46 Leporello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 05:43 turdburgler wrote:
medieval quality arrows couldnt peirce medieval quality full knight armor.


Crossbows could, Joffrey's weapon of choice.

I guess you better make your first arrow count then or you will get your head chopped off while reloading.
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
June 03 2014 21:05 GMT
#24428
On June 04 2014 05:46 Leporello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 05:43 turdburgler wrote:
medieval quality arrows couldnt peirce medieval quality full knight armor.


Crossbows could, Joffrey's weapon of choice.


But then you only get 1 shot until you have to reload the thing, which is harder than a bow & arrow.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 03 2014 21:05 GMT
#24429
On June 04 2014 06:03 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 05:46 Leporello wrote:
On June 04 2014 05:43 turdburgler wrote:
medieval quality arrows couldnt peirce medieval quality full knight armor.


Crossbows could, Joffrey's weapon of choice.

I guess you better make your first arrow count then or you will get your head chopped off while reloading.

Yeah especially if you've got an arm like Joffrey. I know he showed Margeary the crossbow he had that was easier to load but the guy still took 30 seconds to be ready to shoot.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 03 2014 21:10 GMT
#24430
i could be wrong but I don't believe you can use bows/xbows in trials by combat/duels.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
June 03 2014 21:17 GMT
#24431
On June 04 2014 03:48 Acertos wrote:
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On June 04 2014 03:05 biology]major wrote:
On June 04 2014 02:59 []Phase[] wrote:
On June 04 2014 01:11 Roswell wrote:
On June 04 2014 01:01 TheFish7 wrote:
Grey Worm so underrated. He spent his whole life training, and survived what killed many other boys. He's skinny only from lack of testosterone.

Testosterone is so underrated.

About that. Wouldn't castrating them reduce their muscle growth, and ultimately making them weaker, which contradicts the masters trying to create a super fighting force?


pretty sure he still has his balls. Which is why he enjoyed looking at boobs. Also provides him strength. If they fully castrated him, he would develop breasts and lose a large chunk of his muscle mass.

Strength doesn't help you when it comes down to weapons that's all. The only advantage having a strong build give you is range but strength doesn't rly make a difference when every blow can kill you. I guess it's the same as in kick boxing, the most annoying bastards are the tall and thin ones who are both agile and long ranged (them fast and long kicks).
I would even say that when using long range weapons like the spear Greyworm uses, being small is even better than being tall and thin because the range is mostly nullified and the target is smaller (Syrio Forrell lesson).
The thing where strength or basic muscular development might be helpful is endurance but even then, endurance can be acquired through training.

No for his fast and long weapon I think Greyworm has the perfect build.

lol what

I know in movies when you touch someone with a weapon they die, but weapons need force to do anything of merit. Muscles are what give you force and make you move fast - the idea that muscular people are inherently less 'agile' or quick than thin people is laughable. Real life is not viedogames.

Obviously there are diminishing returns when you get to someone like the Mountain's bulk, but the most agile, speedy fencers (my only point of reference) are all very strong - and that's a sport where you don't even need force on striking.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 03 2014 21:44 GMT
#24432
On June 04 2014 06:10 crms wrote:
i could be wrong but I don't believe you can use bows/xbows in trials by combat/duels.

More like you probably wouldn't want to since it'll be fairly close range.
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
June 03 2014 21:57 GMT
#24433
On June 04 2014 06:44 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 06:10 crms wrote:
i could be wrong but I don't believe you can use bows/xbows in trials by combat/duels.

More like you probably wouldn't want to since it'll be fairly close range.

Ygritte did it when she met with that bald scarred head guy
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shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 23:28:25
June 03 2014 23:21 GMT
#24434
I don't believe Bronn has a chance vs The Mountain. He is clever but he uses a sword too and not as agile as Oberyn ( he can spin mid air ffs ). Even Oberyn got knocked down a couple of times despite of his agility. Maybe Bronn can in a duel no armor vs no armor.

Why people hate Daario. he is pretty bad ass , dark and edgy. (I like his armor too) . He can probably throw that dagger on the slow Mountain's head ezpz.

and for Jamie..his duel with Ned Stark was rather sloppy imo. Sad that we won't see the real Jamie fight, unless some miracle will bring back his hand.
AKMU / IU
Frankenberry
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark302 Posts
June 03 2014 23:25 GMT
#24435
On June 04 2014 05:46 Leporello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 05:43 turdburgler wrote:
medieval quality arrows couldnt peirce medieval quality full knight armor.


Crossbows could, Joffrey's weapon of choice.


just on a sidenote, that is exactly the reason why the crossbow for a long time was banned in Europe, only to be used in war with 'the infidels' (non-europeans). Sort of a gentlemans agreement to keep nobility alive during battles (the people with heavy armor was nobility). Later on in when gunpowder was used in war, it is considered wrong to aim at officers xD

Oh well just a sidenote. On with the GoT rambling ^^
cosine
Profile Joined September 2011
313 Posts
June 03 2014 23:36 GMT
#24436
Does anyone know the faux-medieval legality of Roose legitimizing Ramsay? Can you do that? If so, why didn't Ned legitimize Jon? Did it come up at all in season one?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 03 2014 23:36 GMT
#24437
On June 04 2014 06:44 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 06:10 crms wrote:
i could be wrong but I don't believe you can use bows/xbows in trials by combat/duels.

More like you probably wouldn't want to since it'll be fairly close range.


I always hated crossbows, takes too long to load.
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 23:38:55
June 03 2014 23:38 GMT
#24438


found this . "This might help for those are still recovering from last episode"
AKMU / IU
KnT
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia243 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 23:39:12
June 03 2014 23:38 GMT
#24439
On June 04 2014 08:36 cosine wrote:
Does anyone know the faux-medieval legality of Roose legitimizing Ramsay? Can you do that? If so, why didn't Ned legitimize Jon? Did it come up at all in season one?


Probably because of Catelyn. Happy wife = Happy life
I played a PvP last night, he had stalkers I had stalkers they both shot laser. I lasered harder and won.
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
June 03 2014 23:48 GMT
#24440
On June 04 2014 08:36 cosine wrote:
Does anyone know the faux-medieval legality of Roose legitimizing Ramsay? Can you do that? If so, why didn't Ned legitimize Jon? Did it come up at all in season one?


Catelyn hated Jon remember.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
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