On October 05 2010 02:55 Tyrio wrote: He can probably spot blood after years of his job and hiding the very same stuff over dozens of murders.
I liked how Quinn was trolling Deb the entire ep, kinda growing on me. I don't think Dexter can kill Quinn either, he hasn't done anything "wrong" has he?
It doesn't mean he can't kill him. Dexter would kill innocent people if not for the code he was taught, I think he's capable of working around it seeing as he has ignored his father's voice or whatever many times.
It will be similar to season 2. There will be a shitstorm about Kyle Butler and stuff will happen. In the end Dexter will get away but in the last episode Deb will know who Dexter really is and will either kill him, or Dexter will kill her.
This is assuming that season 5 is the last season.
the dude he murdered in the bathroom wasnt exactly guilty of anything the code is whatever he wants it to be at the time to rationalize his actions, not to confine him to be a 'good serial killer.'
Yea, child actors forced to do dramatic scenes are never really going to be effective. What can you do.
I generally like where this is going, I think that ultimately Dexter may kill Quinn. Deb is going to find out who Dexter really is though, it's been a constant possibility since the beginning and I think that this season may be the time to do it, if not next season in the wake of Dexter killing Quinn.
It will be similar to season 2. There will be a shitstorm about Kyle Butler and stuff will happen. In the end Dexter will get away but in the last episode Deb will know who Dexter really is and will either kill him, or Dexter will kill her.
This is assuming that season 5 is the last season.
Dexter will never nevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernevernever kill deb.
never.
never.
That in the absolute end of the story dexter may die, even at the hands of deb (even that i think wont happen, given how much deb has stated that dex is the most important thing in her life.
And i dont think that this will be the last season, would've been announced otherwise.
I enjoy the 5th season so far, guess after the shitstorm that was the 4ths ending it would be clear that the start of nr. 5 probably had lots of "cleaning up" to do.
Also, spotting a red spot on the ground. for a blood spatter analyst, shouldnt be that irritating. Its not like he put his finger to the ground, tasted it and drove right to the person responsible.
Quinn annoys Deb by asking questions about Dexter, etc etc
Then finally Quinn somehow knows that Dexter did it and talks to him, but somehow Quinn pulls gun and is going to shoot Dexter. Deb comes back and sees Dexter in trouble and shoots Quinn. Maybe Quinn and Deb broke up because of Quinn's obsession about Dexter and gives Deb reason to shoot him because Deb doesn't believe what Quinn says and wants to protect brother.
I don't think the writing is as air tight as it was in season 1. I just don't buy a lot of things in Dexter anymore (Including some pretty cheesy dialogue). Like Deb banging Quinn in her brother's dead wife's kitchen a week after her grisly murder? Yeah....Or that Dexter wouldn't know how to fake grieving. Harry never taught Dexter how to do that? To prepare him for his own eventual demise? He was also around when his adoptive mother died. So this isn't the first time he's been exposed to grieving. But I guess you can explain that away by saying Dexter was too much in shock (Which ironically is the human reaction anyway)to remember how to act like a typical human being.
Sometimes I really wish that the writers and directors were replaced by the guys who did The Wire.
On September 29 2010 09:52 Gene wrote: lol does anyone watch Weeds? There was a dexter reference.
"Oh, yeah? So what? So he can become one of those 'good serial killers that only kills other serial killers'?" In a mocking tone
hehehe
yeah it reminded me of when The Wire did the same thing, when Dukie was watching Dexter with that kids little brother "have you heard of this show, its about a serial killer that kills other serial killers!" which was kind of odd since The Wire was on HBO.
I really hope the formula changes from having a new "villain" or "rival" every season. I've always thought the conflict that Dexter has with himself is far more interesting than any conflict he's had with rival serial killers or cops in the series (with the sole exception of Arthur Mitchell who was the best villain I've seen on film in a long time). Season 5 seems to be going down that road, I'm very pleased with the direction so far.
I dislike Quinn, I hope Dexter kills him. The only character I hate more is Deb.
On October 04 2010 15:04 Swineflew wrote: I hope they ship Cody and Aster off to their grandparents soon, I really don't feel that they bring anything to the show now. They can play the parent story with his actual son, the one that we care about.
I like the kids, there is an interesting dynamic in the Dexter books in which he is secretly training them to be serial killers much like him.
i really hope Astor and Cody come back. That would be exactly why i loved Dexter - it always takes such a unique approach and stays original. There is no way it can top S4 in entertainment value and no way it can top S1 and 2 in philosophical value. Adding the originality of a series having the balls to deal with the issue of a single father(it's always single mothers isnt it?) in the first place, and adding him being a serial killer to that- thats what i expect from Dexter, not shipping his kids away because its the easy way out(for series producer)
Also the only reason you guy find Quinn annoying cause he's a Dokes-typecast. I watched S4 before i watched S1 and 2 and personally i found Dokes to be annoying and cliche. Quinn is a much better character and his banter with Deb was definitely entertaining.
On October 05 2010 05:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I really hope the formula changes from having a new "villain" or "rival" every season. I've always thought the conflict that Dexter has with himself is far more interesting than any conflict he's had with rival serial killers or cops in the series (with the sole exception of Arthur Mitchell who was the best villain I've seen on film in a long time). Season 5 seems to be going down that road, I'm very pleased with the direction so far.
I dislike Quinn, I hope Dexter kills him. The only character I hate more is Deb.
On October 05 2010 04:31 Warrior Madness wrote: I don't think the writing is as air tight as it was in season 1. I just don't buy a lot of things in Dexter anymore (Including some pretty cheesy dialogue). Like Deb banging Quinn in her brother's dead wife's kitchen a week after her grisly murder? Yeah....
Well that is what happens in half the movies so trust them that is how women behave around death.
Or that Dexter wouldn't know how to fake grieving. Harry never taught Dexter how to do that? To prepare him for his own eventual demise? He was also around when his adoptive mother died. So this isn't the first time he's been exposed to grieving. But I guess you can explain that away by saying Dexter was too much in shock (Which ironically is the human reaction anyway)to remember how to act like a typical human being.
Sometimes I really wish that the writers and directors were replaced by the guys who did The Wire.
Yea i personally agree with that explanation and i think that that is a very good one at that. I just hope it was consciously written like that and not just us thinking too deep.
On October 05 2010 05:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I really hope the formula changes from having a new "villain" or "rival" every season. I've always thought the conflict that Dexter has with himself is far more interesting than any conflict he's had with rival serial killers or cops in the series (with the sole exception of Arthur Mitchell who was the best villain I've seen on film in a long time). Season 5 seems to be going down that road, I'm very pleased with the direction so far.
I dislike Quinn, I hope Dexter kills him. The only character I hate more is Deb.
how can u hate deb
she gets really upset over dumb shit. i decided i didnt like her when she flipped on dexter for getting a blood test.
On October 05 2010 05:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I really hope the formula changes from having a new "villain" or "rival" every season. I've always thought the conflict that Dexter has with himself is far more interesting than any conflict he's had with rival serial killers or cops in the series (with the sole exception of Arthur Mitchell who was the best villain I've seen on film in a long time). Season 5 seems to be going down that road, I'm very pleased with the direction so far.
Well thats just cuz its only begun. I think more probably, whoever is behind the cult killings will be the main "villain". However, I do agree with you that Dexter's own personal conflicts are more interesting than conflicts he has had with these villains. Something that bothers me this season is the kids acting abilities, it seems sorta corny and forced - i mean i know they are kids and the emotional material is probably ridiculously difficult to portray, but still it sorta salient enough that it disengages me from viewing the show properly
i really hope Astor and Cody come back. That would be exactly why i loved Dexter - it always takes such a unique approach and stays original. There is no way it can top S4 in entertainment value and no way it can top S1 and 2 in philosophical value. Adding the originality of a series having the balls to deal with the issue of a single father(it's always single mothers isnt it?) in the first place, and adding him being a serial killer to that- thats what i expect from Dexter, not shipping his kids away because its the easy way out(for series producer)
Also the only reason you guy find Quinn annoying cause he's a Dokes-typecast. I watched S4 before i watched S1 and 2 and personally i found Dokes to be annoying and cliche. Quinn is a much better character and his banter with Deb was definitely entertaining.
This is so dumb; to spoiler everything, but anyways... + Show Spoiler +
I absolutely agree. The kids should return. Not because I absolutely want them there but because them leaving is so very much the easy way out. The writers created this huge problem for the kids, for Dexter by killing Rita. Sending the kids away, Dexter maybe getting a new place of his own is just a sad way of cleaning up. If the writers didn't want Dexter to deal with being a single father, they shouldn't have killed Rita.
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