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Voros
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States222 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 00:34:42
October 05 2010 00:32 GMT
#1441
The chief problem with the children is that they are transparent stereotypes, as was their mother. Ridding the show of those three characters is a major step towards making it watchable again, and I truly hope they don't make another appearance outside of the series finale.

Quinn is a thousand times better than Doakes. The latter was saddled with ridiculous tough-guy dialogue, a sociopathic personality, and one of the worst actors ever seen on television. Quinn is just a regular guy & semi-corrupt cop who happens to have an inkling that Dexter is more than he appears.
deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
October 05 2010 00:51 GMT
#1442
On October 05 2010 09:32 Voros wrote:
The chief problem with the children is that they are transparent stereotypes, as was their mother. Ridding the show of those three characters is a major step towards making it watchable again, and I truly hope they don't make another appearance outside of the series finale.

Quinn is a thousand times better than Doakes. The latter was saddled with ridiculous tough-guy dialogue, a sociopathic personality, and one of the worst actors ever seen on television. Quinn is just a regular guy & semi-corrupt cop who happens to have an inkling that Dexter is more than he appears.


Agree with first point, but i really liked doakes. I don't hate Quinn though.

Honestly it would be extremely difficult for dexter to work as a show if he had to be a full time dad for 2 kids and a baby. I don't see how he could do anything without some major plot holes.
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
October 05 2010 02:16 GMT
#1443
On October 05 2010 09:51 deth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 09:32 Voros wrote:
The chief problem with the children is that they are transparent stereotypes, as was their mother. Ridding the show of those three characters is a major step towards making it watchable again, and I truly hope they don't make another appearance outside of the series finale.

Quinn is a thousand times better than Doakes. The latter was saddled with ridiculous tough-guy dialogue, a sociopathic personality, and one of the worst actors ever seen on television. Quinn is just a regular guy & semi-corrupt cop who happens to have an inkling that Dexter is more than he appears.


Agree with first point, but i really liked doakes. I don't hate Quinn though.

Honestly it would be extremely difficult for dexter to work as a show if he had to be a full time dad for 2 kids and a baby. I don't see how he could do anything without some major plot holes.

If they can't make it work, they shouldn't have killed off Rita. The writers chose to do that, so now they have to deal with the consequences and pawning off the kids is a cop out imo.
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
dranko
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden378 Posts
October 05 2010 02:43 GMT
#1444
Why so much hate for the kids? I love the little fuckers!
dbizzle
Profile Joined May 2010
United States395 Posts
October 05 2010 02:51 GMT
#1445
Have you guys ever met anyone that was in the special forces that did tours in other countries? They are hard ass mean ppl that dont give a fk, exactly what doakes is.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
October 05 2010 02:52 GMT
#1446
On October 05 2010 08:46 ShAsTa wrote:
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On October 05 2010 06:11 Sfydjklm wrote:
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i really hope Astor and Cody come back. That would be exactly why i loved Dexter - it always takes such a unique approach and stays original. There is no way it can top S4 in entertainment value and no way it can top S1 and 2 in philosophical value. Adding the originality of a series having the balls to deal with the issue of a single father(it's always single mothers isnt it?) in the first place, and adding him being a serial killer to that- thats what i expect from Dexter, not shipping his kids away because its the easy way out(for series producer)

Also the only reason you guy find Quinn annoying cause he's a Dokes-typecast. I watched S4 before i watched S1 and 2 and personally i found Dokes to be annoying and cliche. Quinn is a much better character and his banter with Deb was definitely entertaining.

This is so dumb; to spoiler everything, but anyways...
+ Show Spoiler +
I absolutely agree. The kids should return. Not because I absolutely want them there but because them leaving is so very much the easy way out. The writers created this huge problem for the kids, for Dexter by killing Rita. Sending the kids away, Dexter maybe getting a new place of his own is just a sad way of cleaning up. If the writers didn't want Dexter to deal with being a single father, they shouldn't have killed Rita.

I liked Doakes. I don't like Quinn.

Latest episode was pretty funny.

that being said + Show Spoiler +
for the first 2 episodes while empathizing with dexter i thought that sending the kids away with grandparents while he cleans the mess up and gets a new place is a very logical step from a RL perspective. Not that i have step-kids but i think if i did and my wife got killed thats what i would do:D
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Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 02:56:51
October 05 2010 02:54 GMT
#1447
On October 05 2010 11:51 dbizzle wrote:
Have you guys ever met anyone that was in the special forces that did tours in other countries? They are hard ass mean ppl that dont give a fk, exactly what doakes is.

have u? The general rule of the thumb is the more you talk the less you are capable of.

Anyway noone with any sort of training special forces or otherwise would come up to their mark and say i'm onto you. They would just do their stuff and something tells me they would tail Dexter instead of stalking him suggestively.
Doakes was just a giangatic stereotype.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
October 05 2010 03:32 GMT
#1448
SPOILER: I would like to give the writers credit for creating a killer for Dexter to hunt who somehow fills me with nearly as much anger as Trinity. The way he would electrocute the woman he has abducted (?) shows a disgusting disregard for human life.

I'm not sure how I feel about the Astor and Cody situation, personally I was never a fan of them as an obstacle in Dexter's way and without Rita I really do just want them to go away.
^O^
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
October 05 2010 04:03 GMT
#1449
I've hated Quinn for every episode he has ever been on except for the last episode. He actually seemed kind of laid back especially the way he handled the sitaution with Deb. I hate that the writers are jumping right back into the drama between Angel and LaGuerta.
Last.Midnight
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia906 Posts
October 05 2010 05:22 GMT
#1450
The Angel and LaGuerta shit is boring and uninteresting, but
+ Show Spoiler +
It was cool to see Angel go all badass. It's been a while. He's actually a totally likeable character.
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
October 05 2010 06:35 GMT
#1451
On October 05 2010 14:22 Last.Midnight wrote:
The Angel and LaGuerta shit is boring and uninteresting, but
+ Show Spoiler +
It was cool to see Angel go all badass. It's been a while. He's actually a totally likeable character.

Angel reminds me so much of a friend from high school, seeing him do that made me burst out laughing because it is EXACTLY how my friend would behave.
matthewfoulkes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom246 Posts
October 05 2010 06:38 GMT
#1452
Yea Angel and LaGuerta arent needed imo but i do hope they dont remove kids totally.
Lies? I Dont Tell lies! Thats no lie!
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
October 05 2010 09:29 GMT
#1453
I like Angel and LaGuerta, they seem more normal than the rest and bring more realism to the series. Everyone does not need to be special.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 05 2010 09:35 GMT
#1454
god damn I hope ep 3 starts to intrigue me. The dead animal killer is fucking awesome btw. First legit nut case I think.. in the more traditional "hollywood" sense anways.
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
October 05 2010 09:51 GMT
#1455
I think the kids going away was a great thing for the show.

It just proved to Dexter, yet again, that he cannot live a normal life. He got married, and his wife's femoral artery was sliced in a bathtub. He had two kids, and they left him because he couldn't protect their mother.

Dexter really should be as isolated from everybody as possible. It will show him that Harry was right.
Ygz
Profile Joined June 2010
England370 Posts
October 05 2010 09:59 GMT
#1456
+ Show Spoiler +
Getting rid of the kids was a great start, it was clear to me at least that they weren't pulling off their role's effectively, every time Astor would whine I couldn't help but cringe in RL, quite a shame really.

Contrary to what others believe, I love the pace of this season, you can almost feel Dexter's bewilderment about everything, that's exactly how the show feels right now, perfect!

Calling it now, Deb kills Quinn, accidentally I may add. Quinn won't be able to help him self and will venture off trying to find out who the "real" Dexter Morgan is. Skip to the clincher episode, Quinn and Dexter battling it out, Deb walks in to save the day. Queue season 6!
Everything Newton said.
Last.Midnight
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia906 Posts
October 05 2010 10:07 GMT
#1457
+ Show Spoiler +
Also, when Dex and Deb were talking on the balcony, I had this fucking SICK feeling that they were going to start kissing or something. It's probably because they're married in real life, but the whole scene seemed so intimate... eck!
Zakka
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands762 Posts
October 05 2010 10:50 GMT
#1458
+ Show Spoiler +
Quinn was hilarious when he pretended him and Deb to be a couple when Deb was checking the apartment for Dexter


I don't care about Maria but I do care about Angel, so yeah. I think Angel deserves a hotter wife.
Amsterdam
Fraidnot
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States824 Posts
October 05 2010 11:03 GMT
#1459
Last season sort of had this same vibe going where the first few episodes were such sleepers. It wasn't until like episode 7 or somethings where it really grabbed you. I'm hoping the show's just building, but it just feels impossible to tell what we're going to experience.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
October 05 2010 11:19 GMT
#1460
Haven't all Dexter seasons started kinda slowly? So I'm sure it will pick up in a few episodes.
Also the killer dexter is hunting is great. Next episode preview looked great, can't wait
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