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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
but yeah, not the best season/finale of the show. still pretty decent though. | ||
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Frits
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yhnmk
Canada630 Posts
Would make for good tv | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On December 16 2009 03:36 AtlaS wrote: I second this recommendation. I didn't really like this season's season finale though. Pretty disappointed to tell you the truth but I still cant wait for next season Im halfway through Season 1 and the poor mans wife.. Obviously the ones wife who has cancers is TOTALLY pissing me off Id like to punch her in the face , dear lord.. fuck.. O_O end of off topic ^^ | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On December 16 2009 06:16 Frits wrote: i was kind of expecting a bigger showdown, at least the end was brutal and next season will be interesting I thought that too at first, that it was a little too one-sided for my tastes... but oddly fitting for what happened in the end. | ||
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ShAsTa
Belgium2841 Posts
On December 15 2009 07:06 Warrior Madness wrote: + Show Spoiler + Thinking about the circumstances of Rita's death leaves me really sad and infuriated. It was just so cruel. The whole time Trinity was on the table, he was at total peace, lecturing Dexter on his naivety, listening to Dexter explain how he had a family, knowing the whole time that he really didn't anymore.... The cruelness of Rita's murder, and the way that Trinity sent a message with it, stands in contrast to Dexter's small act of kindness by letting him die to the sound of his train set and Vera's favorite record. Holy fuck.... Add the fact that Dexter SAVED Trinity's life and it makes Rita's murder all the more tragic. This will be all on Dexter. He is going to have to somehow, come to grips with all this next season. + Show Spoiler + Yeah. Poor, sweet, innocent Rita. Can you imagine? She probably died like the girl in the first episode. Maybe Trinity whispering some twisted things before he cuts her. I can't believe they killed her. For the first time there seemed to be a real bond between Dexter and Rita. I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally hope they won't do the whole code teaching thing with Harrison (or Cody or Astor), that would be so dumb. Just leave it at this "poetic" born in blood thing. Also Quinn becoming the new Doakes in s5 (and indeed it seems like this season is setting that up) would suck. At the end it seemed like Dexter was contemplating giving up killing and trying to do the normal family thing. Trying to gain control of his demons. Maybe Rita's death sends him into a downward spiral and he starts losing it. Maybe he'll kill more and more people while needing less and less evidence. So for 4 seasons Dexter has shown emotional growth, which seemed to be at an all time high 5 minutes before the end and then Rita's death sends him into madness. Sounds a bit cliché I guess, but could be cool to watch. I can't see how he could possibly continue on this path of emotional growth after this. | ||
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Jin
Canada439 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + It was not a dream. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On December 16 2009 07:01 yhnmk wrote: you know one thing I have to say, is that most serial killers cravings grow over time, and they go for more daring and difficult targets, but they also do it more frequently and in a more frenzied, sadistic manner Is that really true? Just interested where you got that from I'd love to read some literature on the subject since vacation is coming up for me in a few days. | ||
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Slox
United States21 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + While season four wasn't by any means my favorite, I think it will do a very nice job of advancing the series. This whole season I was liking the direction everything was moving (Dexter growing closer and closer to Rita and the kids, and at times showing the slightest possibility that he could one day put his dark passenger to rest) but all the while I knew that this would result in one of two things: a fairly weak season five, followed most likely by the end of the show; or a plot twist to shake things back up. The season finale delivered a pretty good plot twist, in that it really opens up the direction they can take the show from here on out. Not to mention watching that final scene as Dexter walks in to see his son in a pool of his wife's blood gave me chills. After so much character development with Rita, and watching Dexter get close to her, I really felt invested in her by this point, and it just made it that much more dramatic to see her lying there in the tub. It was absolutely no comfort that the Trinity Killer is dead at this point for me, but I guess that's the whole point... Overall I think the show has a lot of directions it can go now, and I'm sure it will be enjoyable to watch, though I don't see many happy endings in the near future. My guess would be that next season is going to be based heavily around the relationships between Debra, Quinn, and Dexter. What is going to happen with Dexter and the kids should also be interesting, but I have no idea what direction they will take that... One thing I would also like to add as a side note is that I really hope they don't have any more main characters form relationships with one of the "villains". Not only has it now been a bit overused in the show, but it made me see the reporter Quinn was with (I forget her name right now) for what she was way too early. I had a bad feeling about her all along and was worried it would come out that she was somehow connected to everything. I just kept hoping otherwise, thinking to myself, they wouldn't do that again would they? As soon as Deb and Vince did the whole height of the shooter thing, I knew it had to be her, and was pretty disappointed. That was really my only big problem with this season I guess. | ||
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Gangrel
United States137 Posts
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ShAsTa
Belgium2841 Posts
On December 16 2009 10:16 Slox wrote: This is my first post in this thread, and I don't know what protocol is for spoilers so I'm just going to do this to be safe: + Show Spoiler + While season four wasn't by any means my favorite, I think it will do a very nice job of advancing the series. This whole season I was liking the direction everything was moving (Dexter growing closer and closer to Rita and the kids, and at times showing the slightest possibility that he could one day put his dark passenger to rest) but all the while I knew that this would result in one of two things: a fairly weak season five, followed most likely by the end of the show; or a plot twist to shake things back up. The season finale delivered a pretty good plot twist, in that it really opens up the direction they can take the show from here on out. Not to mention watching that final scene as Dexter walks in to see his son in a pool of his wife's blood gave me chills. After so much character development with Rita, and watching Dexter get close to her, I really felt invested in her by this point, and it just made it that much more dramatic to see her lying there in the tub. It was absolutely no comfort that the Trinity Killer is dead at this point for me, but I guess that's the whole point... + Show Spoiler + Yes, and right before Dexter finds her it seems like their relationship has just become so much stronger and real, making the ending even more tragic, which as you point out is probably the whole point. | ||
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DM20
Canada544 Posts
On December 16 2009 05:18 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I dunno.. this entire season based on that finale feels like a buildup for next season. I see some intriguing plots already but THIS season was a bit of a let down imo. Reminds me of a feast for crows  Ya but at least the wait for dexter is only 9 months instead of some indefinite long period of time. | ||
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yhnmk
Canada630 Posts
On December 16 2009 09:14 Frits wrote: Yeah its true. I got it from reading up on a lot of serial killers, personal interviews etc. Ted bundy in particular articulately describes his growth as a serial killer, etc. There are also a wide range psychologists who discuss it, I mean, largely I just read from excerpts from books or whatever website I could find, videos, documentaries etc. Generally they all [serial killers and experts] came to the conclusion that killing is essentially like a drug, and like a drug it demands more and more to even come close to satisfying the urge, which is in turn has a negative impact on your emotional state. There were a few examples of serial killers who stopped killing for a while, like BTK. But they were addicted to killing, so they had to come back eventually [and when they werent killing, tide themselves over by torturing animals, extortion and bullying]. Is that really true? Just interested where you got that from I'd love to read some literature on the subject since vacation is coming up for me in a few days. Anyway, I'm afraid I cant give you any books specifically, but if you look up any doctors who have studied sociopathy and serial killers, your bound to find some. For example: Robert Hare did a *lot* of research into it. I'm not sure if he has a book, though I am sure you can find a lot of quotations of his, first hand statements etc on his views [which compiled could rival a book at the very least ;P]. | ||
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
On December 16 2009 11:49 yhnmk wrote: Yeah its true. I got it from reading up on a lot of serial killers, personal interviews etc. Ted bundy in particular articulately describes his growth as a serial killer, etc. There are also a wide range psychologists who discuss it, I mean, largely I just read from excerpts from books or whatever website I could find, videos, documentaries etc. Generally they all [serial killers and experts] came to the conclusion that killing is essentially like a drug, and like a drug it demands more and more to even come close to satisfying the urge, which is in turn has a negative impact on your emotional state. There were a few examples of serial killers who stopped killing for a while, like BTK. But they were addicted to killing, so they had to come back eventually [and when they werent killing, tide themselves over by torturing animals, extortion and bullying]. Anyway, I'm afraid I cant give you any books specifically, but if you look up any doctors who have studied sociopathy and serial killers, your bound to find some. For example: Robert Hare did a *lot* of research into it. I'm not sure if he has a book, though I am sure you can find a lot of quotations of his, first hand statements etc on his views [which compiled could rival a book at the very least ;P]. Just read a John Douglas book if you want to read something over vacation. | ||
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
On December 16 2009 08:03 Jin wrote: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b157877_was_it_all_dream_john_lithgow_julie.html + Show Spoiler + It was not a dream. also says it was by Trinity. (just so now we are all sure) | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On December 16 2009 07:55 ShAsTa wrote: + Show Spoiler + Yeah. Poor, sweet, innocent Rita. Can you imagine? She probably died like the girl in the first episode. Maybe Trinity whispering some twisted things before he cuts her. I can't believe they killed her. For the first time there seemed to be a real bond between Dexter and Rita. I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally hope they won't do the whole code teaching thing with Harrison (or Cody or Astor), that would be so dumb. Just leave it at this "poetic" born in blood thing. Also Quinn becoming the new Doakes in s5 (and indeed it seems like this season is setting that up) would suck. At the end it seemed like Dexter was contemplating giving up killing and trying to do the normal family thing. Trying to gain control of his demons. Maybe Rita's death sends him into a downward spiral and he starts losing it. Maybe he'll kill more and more people while needing less and less evidence. So for 4 seasons Dexter has shown emotional growth, which seemed to be at an all time high 5 minutes before the end and then Rita's death sends him into madness. Sounds a bit cliché I guess, but could be cool to watch. I can't see how he could possibly continue on this path of emotional growth after this. Or it could be just the opposite. Dexter has shown emotional growth over the 4 seasons and now he learns that emotion can cause pain so he snaps back into cold and emotionless Dexter as a defense mechanism. Besides, I think people are overestimating his affection for Rita. Even until the end he was lying to her, telling her to go to the Keys just so he could take care of business. He didn't really care at all that Elliot kissed her when she told him. Of course that's probably not going to happen, but I can dream can't I? Also I would love to see Deb move in with Dexter to take care of the kids. They are both such terrible parents I think it would create a lot of funny moments. | ||
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ShAsTa
Belgium2841 Posts
On December 16 2009 15:09 BlackJack wrote: Or it could be just the opposite. Dexter has shown emotional growth over the 4 seasons and now he learns that emotion can cause pain so he snaps back into cold and emotionless Dexter as a defense mechanism. Besides, I think people are overestimating his affection for Rita. Even until the end he was lying to her, telling her to go to the Keys just so he could take care of business. He didn't really care at all that Elliot kissed her when she told him. Of course that's probably not going to happen, but I can dream can't I? Also I would love to see Deb move in with Dexter to take care of the kids. They are both such terrible parents I think it would create a lot of funny moments. They can go in a lot of different directions next season. If he didn't care that much about Rita, this whole season has been pretty useless I think. And maybe he didn't care (or thought he cared) that much about Elliott kissing Rita at first, but Dexter definitely wanted to punch him. And he didn't do it because he thought that was what Rita wanted or to seem normal. | ||
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ilovekellymore
Belgium8 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On December 16 2009 15:09 BlackJack wrote: Or it could be just the opposite. Dexter has shown emotional growth over the 4 seasons and now he learns that emotion can cause pain so he snaps back into cold and emotionless Dexter as a defense mechanism. Besides, I think people are overestimating his affection for Rita. Even until the end he was lying to her, telling her to go to the Keys just so he could take care of business. He didn't really care at all that Elliot kissed her when she told him. Of course that's probably not going to happen, but I can dream can't I? Also I would love to see Deb move in with Dexter to take care of the kids. They are both such terrible parents I think it would create a lot of funny moments. He did care and punch him in the face eventually, he just couldnt be mad at rita Also he lied to her and told her to go away to protect her, to avoid exactly what happened anyways because of bad luck I really really liked this season, a lot more than season 3, like others I was a bit disappointed about the lack of a proper showdown, it seemed a bit too easy for dexter to kill trinity but then that ending... jesus | ||
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ShAsTa
Belgium2841 Posts
On December 17 2009 00:47 7mk wrote: He did care and punch him in the face eventually, he just couldnt be mad at rita Also he lied to her and told her to go away to protect her, to avoid exactly what happened anyways because of bad luck I really really liked this season, a lot more than season 3, like others I was a bit disappointed about the lack of a proper showdown, it seemed a bit too easy for dexter to kill trinity but then that ending... jesus I hope they begin the next season exactly where they left off. And not like a couple of weeks later. I want to see what Dexter's going to do at this moment. | ||
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