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On July 23 2013 03:03 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 21:28 Bojas wrote:
Didn´t like the car scene.. Normally Dexter has no problems getting himself out of shitty situations but all of a sudden he´s doomed to his fate. But wait.. Deb suddenly realizes killing Dexter wasn´t what she wanted and saves Dexter because he is suddenly unable to do so himself. Felt really cheesy to me.
I get that impulsive actions fit Debra´s character but when you throw a car into a lake and you get saved by a fisherman you don´t all of a sudden collect your thoughts and decide you don´t want your brother to die. I doubt she would even have the strength. It's a pretty common thing to happen in tv and movies. Whether its likely to occur in reality or not doesnt really matter, you cant even have an interesting tv show if you arent liberal with whats possible.
I disagree. I tend to skip movies and tv shows where this is a common theme. I can usually watch scenes like that but they do not improve the quality of the show for me. Especially not if it's the cliffhanger. A good example of an awesome show where practically every situation is realistic would be The Wire. But we're arguing opinions here .
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Felt really cheesy to me.
Dexter always was extremely cheesy. Well, extremely cheesy by my standards, I am sure there are many more way cheesier shows that I don't watch or care about. For me, Dexter is a popcorn TV show, good enough to watch, entertaining, but nowhere near the HBO masterpieces. Basically that's a common theme with Showtime... Borgias is the same. Watchable if you don't expect too much.
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Season 1 and 2 was a masterpiece, then it went quickly downhill. Anyways, still a good show.
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On July 23 2013 20:53 prOpSnuffe wrote:
Season 1 and 2 was a masterpiece, then it went quickly downhill. Anyways, still a good show.
Kind of my thoughts... I have, despite myself, tried keeping up with the show because I remember enjoying the first seasons so much, but each season the stories get sillier and sillier...
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On July 23 2013 20:53 prOpSnuffe wrote:
Season 1 and 2 was a masterpiece, then it went quickly downhill. Anyways, still a good show.
That's probably because Dexter transformed from a psychological thriller to a CSI knockoff in season 3.
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Fucking Debra, I hope he just kills her.
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Yeah...its actually bizarre how much its changed. if you watched season 5 and then watched season 1 or 2, everything is different. The entire style is changed, it doesnt look like the same show at all.
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Not very entertained by the story line this season. Well I guess I didn't expect anything good anyway, but I was hoping the last season would break the boring mold and try to go out with a bang. Guess not.
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On July 23 2013 13:58 Cillas wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 08:51 plogamer wrote:On July 23 2013 08:45 Cillas wrote:
looked like the high school amateur group directed it.
Felt really weird in the scenes with Dexters Dad, mumbling all the time, like he didnt wanted to act or he was pissed off and thought that it doesnt matter on the rescreen on the laptop. (I mean yeah could be a shitty normal micro, but man you dont need to be THAT fucking realistic)
And the casual guy that rescued Deb, but vanished instantly so Deb had to save Dexter...
If i were Dexter i would punch Vogel in the face, press charges on her, go to jail, write a book on bad therapy and the preconception of people. And go to death-row for murder. /edit Casual guy is obviously too casual to do it twice in a row. dont be silly, not even in every state of the usa there is a death sentence and as a last straw could make a casual trip to europe, seeking asyl, wont be turned to the us because of impeaching death setnence
Most countries have exclusionary clauses in their immigration and refugee laws to prevent criminals from entering and seeking protection - especially with serious crimes like multiple homicide.
Even without death sentence, prisons are quite horrific. Dexter will likely get shanked, given his history of killing criminals, being a former police employee - and it maybe with something other than a shiv  .
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Just got done watching the 4th episode of the season and it's bad. It's a mix of a bunch of ideas they have. Let's give Masuka a daughter because why not. And Debra's just a drag. Jamie's even worse and the whole dynamic with her being jealous of Debra just fires blanks because I can't imagine anybody gives a shit anymore. Quinn possibly getting a promotion and punching a dude... they have these side stories which don't seem to be part of the main plot whatsoever, they're just there because we have to be reminded that side characters still exist...
The most important thing is, Vogel was apparently witholding the information about the guy's scar from Dexter which is the most ridiculous thing ever. Why would Dexter just tell her "hey one of your patient just happens to have the exact same scar as the victims, why didn't you tell me" and she's like "oh you know lol whateverz!" and it's all fucking dandy. I don't know if Vogel is perhaps the main villain and that was her manipulating Dexter, that's entirely possible, but there's no way Dexter would be fine with that blatant "oversight" from her.
I don't know if I'm in a bad mood and that's me nitpicking or being pessimistic but the only thing I liked from the last few episodes is some Jamie ass and sideboob, pardon my crudeness.
I've enjoyed the first 7 seasons to variable degrees, never even came close to saying I should abandon the show. Right now it's just bad. I won't stop watching because we're almost at the end, but it has reached new heights in terms of shitty writing.
QOTD: But what if Vogel is Ayn Rand?
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On July 24 2013 12:44 Djzapz wrote:
Just got done watching the 4th episode of the season and it's bad. It's a mix of a bunch of ideas they have. Let's give Masuka a daughter because why not. And Debra's just a drag. Jamie's even worse and the whole dynamic with her being jealous of Debra just fires blanks because I can't imagine anybody gives a shit anymore. Quinn possibly getting a promotion and punching a dude... they have these side stories which don't seem to be part of the main plot whatsoever, they're just there because we have to be reminded that side characters still exist...
The most important thing is, Vogel was apparently witholding the information about the guy's scar from Dexter which is the most ridiculous thing ever. Why would Dexter just tell her "hey one of your patient just happens to have the exact same scar as the victims, why didn't you tell me" and she's like "oh you know lol whateverz!" and it's all fucking dandy. I don't know if Vogel is perhaps the main villain and that was her manipulating Dexter, that'd entirely possible, but there's no way Dexter would be fine with that blatant "oversight" from her.
I don't know if I'm in a bad mood and that's me nitpicking or being pessimistic but the only thing I liked from the last few episodes is some Jamie ass and sideboob, pardon my crudeness.
I've enjoyed the first 7 seasons to variable degrees, never even came close to saying I should abandon the show. Right now it's just bad. I won't stop watching because we're almost at the end, but it has reached new heights in terms of shitty writing.
QOTD: But what if Vogel is Ayn Rand?
This voices my thoughts pretty well. I've been willing to give this season it's fair shot to build up the final story lines, but it is all really tedious. Just let it end. At least Hannah was an interesting character last season. Which is also pissing me off: they bother to have a last-episode cliff hanger with her escaping from jail, and this whole season nobody has given two shits about that. Shouldn't the whole department be in a manhunt for the escaped serial killer? Even if she is no longer interested in Dex, which seems out of character enough in and of itself.
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On July 24 2013 13:04 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 12:44 Djzapz wrote:
Just got done watching the 4th episode of the season and it's bad. It's a mix of a bunch of ideas they have. Let's give Masuka a daughter because why not. And Debra's just a drag. Jamie's even worse and the whole dynamic with her being jealous of Debra just fires blanks because I can't imagine anybody gives a shit anymore. Quinn possibly getting a promotion and punching a dude... they have these side stories which don't seem to be part of the main plot whatsoever, they're just there because we have to be reminded that side characters still exist...
The most important thing is, Vogel was apparently witholding the information about the guy's scar from Dexter which is the most ridiculous thing ever. Why would Dexter just tell her "hey one of your patient just happens to have the exact same scar as the victims, why didn't you tell me" and she's like "oh you know lol whateverz!" and it's all fucking dandy. I don't know if Vogel is perhaps the main villain and that was her manipulating Dexter, that'd entirely possible, but there's no way Dexter would be fine with that blatant "oversight" from her.
I don't know if I'm in a bad mood and that's me nitpicking or being pessimistic but the only thing I liked from the last few episodes is some Jamie ass and sideboob, pardon my crudeness.
I've enjoyed the first 7 seasons to variable degrees, never even came close to saying I should abandon the show. Right now it's just bad. I won't stop watching because we're almost at the end, but it has reached new heights in terms of shitty writing.
QOTD: But what if Vogel is Ayn Rand? This voices my thoughts pretty well. I've been willing to give this season it's fair shot to build up the final story lines, but it is all really tedious. Just let it end. At least Hannah was an interesting character last season. Which is also pissing me off: they bother to have a last-episode cliff hanger with her escaping from jail, and this whole season nobody has given two shits about that. Shouldn't the whole department be in a manhunt for the escaped serial killer? Even if she is no longer interested in Dex, which seems out of character enough in and of itself.
Wouldn't surprise me if Hannah (YVONNE <3!) doesn't even come back 
I mean they already seem to have dropped Lumen out of the picture.
Quinn's suspicions of Dexter have completely dissipated (which was a total letdown after season 5).
Brother Sam (Mos Def) just awkwardly left the plot as a quickly as he came.
Isaac gave us one of the coolest episodes in several seasons then bit the dust in disappointing fashion.
The freaky intern that mysteriously had an interest in Dexter at the end of season 6? Dies a comedic death, had next to no impact on the story.
They just don't seem to care much anymore.
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On July 24 2013 13:04 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 12:44 Djzapz wrote:
Just got done watching the 4th episode of the season and it's bad. It's a mix of a bunch of ideas they have. Let's give Masuka a daughter because why not. And Debra's just a drag. Jamie's even worse and the whole dynamic with her being jealous of Debra just fires blanks because I can't imagine anybody gives a shit anymore. Quinn possibly getting a promotion and punching a dude... they have these side stories which don't seem to be part of the main plot whatsoever, they're just there because we have to be reminded that side characters still exist...
The most important thing is, Vogel was apparently witholding the information about the guy's scar from Dexter which is the most ridiculous thing ever. Why would Dexter just tell her "hey one of your patient just happens to have the exact same scar as the victims, why didn't you tell me" and she's like "oh you know lol whateverz!" and it's all fucking dandy. I don't know if Vogel is perhaps the main villain and that was her manipulating Dexter, that'd entirely possible, but there's no way Dexter would be fine with that blatant "oversight" from her.
I don't know if I'm in a bad mood and that's me nitpicking or being pessimistic but the only thing I liked from the last few episodes is some Jamie ass and sideboob, pardon my crudeness.
I've enjoyed the first 7 seasons to variable degrees, never even came close to saying I should abandon the show. Right now it's just bad. I won't stop watching because we're almost at the end, but it has reached new heights in terms of shitty writing.
QOTD: But what if Vogel is Ayn Rand? This voices my thoughts pretty well. I've been willing to give this season it's fair shot to build up the final story lines, but it is all really tedious. Just let it end. At least Hannah was an interesting character last season. Which is also pissing me off: they bother to have a last-episode cliff hanger with her escaping from jail, and this whole season nobody has given two shits about that. Shouldn't the whole department be in a manhunt for the escaped serial killer? Even if she is no longer interested in Dex, which seems out of character enough in and of itself.
Yeah, this is really pretty shitty. I also thought that 7-8 were supposed to be one arc, but apparently not. It's the last season, I don't know why we have so many worthless side stories. It's more LaGuerta + Batista bullshit again -_-;
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On July 23 2013 14:13 Pibacc wrote:
I think Deb saved Dexter because she didn't want to live with another murder. She was ok with it when she thought she'd die with him but him dying and her living might be too painful.
This guy gets why Deb saved Dexter. Who's to say she won't go off in another episode and try to kill him and herself again. Also I knew she was going to try and pull something. TBQH I thought she was going to pull a gun in the parking lot of the police station and off herself or off him and then try and get shot herself by the cops.
It was pretty obvious she was going to try something suicidal what with giving Quinn her last words and what not.
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On July 24 2013 13:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Wouldn't surprise me if Hannah (YVONNE <3!) doesn't even come back I mean they already seem to have dropped Lumen out of the picture. Quinn's suspicions of Dexter have completely dissipated (which was a total letdown after season 5). Brother Sam (Mos Def) just awkwardly left the plot as a quickly as he came. Isaac gave us one of the coolest episodes in several seasons then bit the dust in disappointing fashion. The freaky intern that mysteriously had an interest in Dexter at the end of season 6? Dies a comedic death, had next to no impact on the story. They just don't seem to care much anymore.
That's also stuff that I mean when I say that this show deserves nothing in regards to plot points / cleverness any more. The things you mentioned are so big, in particular Quinn who fucking got a nearly perfect portrait of Dexter's face and thus knew about him being involve with Trinity shit. Like how can you just throw that out of the window. How the fuck.
Pretty much nothing builds upon previous seasons and episodes. No, instead we get the mystery Psychopath expert who happens to be heavily involved into Dexter's life. Nothing ever cleverly hinted at it. But gotta come up with a shitty plot I guess, despite having a million better, previously established characters and plot lines to work with.
I imagine Hannah will probably appear in a "surprising fashion" in this season but without it making much sense either.
This particular episode was just shit in all regards once again. Whoever is writing/directing this show must be nonstop drunk by now.
Of course Dexter had to violate his code again. "Never get caught." apparently equals "Try to kidnap your victim within a hospital in bright daylight."
That's about as careless as it gets. In case he succeeded sedating the guy.... then what? Do you drag him out of the window or the hospital? No matter what you do it's bound to draw attention and in the very least dangerous as fuck for him,
But it was many seasons ago that Dexter gave a shit about working secure...
And they still keep going on with the shitty soap opera side plots. Even the final season can't escape the Dexter filler dramas going on for no good reason.
By the way, I'd not be surprised if the boss of Deb's new workspace is a bad guy, if not THE bad guy. He gets so much screentime that he must be of some higher importance (and today we learned his father was a piece of shit and he feels like the black sheep of the family still) or... well or he's just someone they wanted to get a paycheck and thus put him in the show. Works for the actor of Dexter's father as well.
The amount of inner monologue from Dex about the same shit we've heard 30times already is also just pathetic by now.
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By the way, I'd not be surprised if the boss of Deb's new workspace is a bad guy, if not THE bad guy. He gets so much screentime that he must be of some higher importance (and today we learned his father was a piece of shit and he feels like the black sheep of the family still) or... well or he's just someone they wanted to get a paycheck and thus put him in the show. Works for the actor of Dexter's father as well.
Not to mention the fact that he now twice have given her some strange energy drink and then in later episode he gives her some powder for her water.
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On July 25 2013 00:21 Nausea wrote:Show nested quote +By the way, I'd not be surprised if the boss of Deb's new workspace is a bad guy, if not THE bad guy. He gets so much screentime that he must be of some higher importance (and today we learned his father was a piece of shit and he feels like the black sheep of the family still) or... well or he's just someone they wanted to get a paycheck and thus put him in the show. Works for the actor of Dexter's father as well. Not to mention the fact that he now twice have given her some strange energy drink and then in later episode he gives her some powder for her water.
I just see it as a character introduced to emphasize how far Deb has fallen. He's a very well put together health nut, which contrasts with Deb's alcoholism and scruffiness. I mean, if you look at all of the meaningless crap going on in the season right now, it's hard to say there's a deeper reason for his character getting so much screentime. He'll be her final love interest if anything.
Also, he's not a psychopath. He was talking a lot about his emotions and his desire to piss off his dad.
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On July 25 2013 00:43 Cel.erity wrote:
Also, he's not a psychopath. He was talking a lot about his emotions and his desire to piss off his dad.
Psychopaths can lie. Also, he need not be a psychopath to be a villain.
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Deb's new boss screams "Marty McFly" to me. I just can't unsee it anymore, expecting Bill Tannen to show up around the corner, maybe even on Dex's table...
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On July 25 2013 09:45 Bleak wrote:
Deb's new boss screams "Marty McFly" to me. I just can't unsee it anymore, expecting Bill Tannen to show up around the corner, maybe even on Dex's table...
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