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Sanctimonius
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom861 Posts
July 29 2013 21:58 GMT
#5941
I'm thinking Vogel knows a lot more than she's letting on. Maybe she's tried a few times to create a 'safe' serial killer, and Dexter is simply the only one who hasn't spiralled out of control. Maybe she knows the brain surgeon. Maybe she really is the brain surgeon. But kinda surprised to see people thinking Hayes was the brain surgeon - were you watching the same show I was? Brain surgeon has shown himself to be a manipulator, uses others to control the situation and kills them when they aren't of use, to hide himself. Hayes was an angry child re-living his childhood traumas. Different MO, different ability, different reasons. I think Vogel knows these former clients of hers and keeps in contact, at least to keep tabs on them, and is controlling them somehow - we still haven't been shown why Hayes had her patient files on his computer.
You live the life you choose.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
July 29 2013 23:57 GMT
#5942
I dont care enough anymore to complain about this show :D
MatiaasS !
Profile Joined October 2011
Chile167 Posts
July 30 2013 00:08 GMT
#5943
This season it's getting better and better !
Cannot wait !
Team EG, TL and IM ! || Tennis For Life ♥ RF ♥
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
July 30 2013 00:32 GMT
#5944
On July 30 2013 08:57 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
I dont care enough anymore to complain about this show :D
So passive aggressive of you! Though I agree...theres really nothing redeeming about this season, I tried my best to be optimistic, and its such an easy series to write on a theoretical level. I bet any writer out there would thank his lucky stars to be given such a task. And they fucked it.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 30 2013 00:42 GMT
#5945
Yvonne will salvage this shit.
WriterXiao8~~
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
July 30 2013 01:09 GMT
#5946
Debra's boss will be the baddie. She is like the artosis curse for that stuff.
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
July 30 2013 01:20 GMT
#5947
On July 30 2013 09:42 Kipsate wrote:
Yvonne will salvage this shit.


Her not being in the first and every episode is just wrong you done fucked up Dexter production staff.
OMG you nasty gurl
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 30 2013 02:40 GMT
#5948
I just finished catching up to the new season and... heeeeeh...
Overall I think the theme used for the show wasn't meant to have so many seasons. It's just so bland now.

It's still enjoyable to watch, but nothing scream masterpiece like before.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
July 30 2013 03:13 GMT
#5949
On July 30 2013 11:40 Noocta wrote:
I just finished catching up to the new season and... heeeeeh...
Overall I think the theme used for the show wasn't meant to have so many seasons. It's just so bland now.

It's still enjoyable to watch, but nothing scream masterpiece like before.


Last season was really good in my opinion, but this season hasn't peaked my interest in the same way yet. Namely due to the lack of Yvonne.
OMG you nasty gurl
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 30 2013 03:15 GMT
#5950
On July 30 2013 12:13 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 11:40 Noocta wrote:
I just finished catching up to the new season and... heeeeeh...
Overall I think the theme used for the show wasn't meant to have so many seasons. It's just so bland now.

It's still enjoyable to watch, but nothing scream masterpiece like before.


Last season was really good in my opinion, but this season hasn't peaked my interest in the same way yet. Namely due to the lack of Yvonne.


I really liked the character of the old Lady ( heh, don't remember her name ! ) but it quickly turned into the biggest cliché ever
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
jeremycafe
Profile Joined March 2009
United States354 Posts
July 30 2013 14:47 GMT
#5951
On July 30 2013 02:55 gedatsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 02:05 jeremycafe wrote:
On July 29 2013 19:51 kleetzor wrote:
I'm not sure about Hayes being the surgeon. I mean, had the surgeon not ALREADY sent a gift to each Dexter and Vogel (marked His and Hers), BEFORE he knew that Vogel had called upon Dexter for help, or even Dexter invaded Hayes' home?

Or did I miss so much to not put 2 and 2 together?


I am with you on this one. No way he is the brain guy. Nothing adds up to Hayes being the surgeon. I am surprised people actually think it was him based on what was presented in the show. No wonder so many people think Zimmerman is guilty...

There is one thing that does add up: when he sees Dexter snooping in his house, he says (paraphrasing) "Vogel has found herself a hero". How would he know that Vogel sent Dexter? If he isn't the surgeon, then they likely haven't had contact in some 20 years.


What the other guy said. He was listening to him talk to her on the phone before he said that. The real killer already knew Dexter was involved because he sent a his and hers box to her house, where as Hayes was just then learning of his existence.

Its not him. I think its Vogel in my opinion, its the way this show has gone. Vogel is toying with Dexter.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 30 2013 14:52 GMT
#5952
On July 30 2013 23:47 jeremycafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 02:55 gedatsu wrote:
On July 30 2013 02:05 jeremycafe wrote:
On July 29 2013 19:51 kleetzor wrote:
I'm not sure about Hayes being the surgeon. I mean, had the surgeon not ALREADY sent a gift to each Dexter and Vogel (marked His and Hers), BEFORE he knew that Vogel had called upon Dexter for help, or even Dexter invaded Hayes' home?

Or did I miss so much to not put 2 and 2 together?


I am with you on this one. No way he is the brain guy. Nothing adds up to Hayes being the surgeon. I am surprised people actually think it was him based on what was presented in the show. No wonder so many people think Zimmerman is guilty...

There is one thing that does add up: when he sees Dexter snooping in his house, he says (paraphrasing) "Vogel has found herself a hero". How would he know that Vogel sent Dexter? If he isn't the surgeon, then they likely haven't had contact in some 20 years.


What the other guy said. He was listening to him talk to her on the phone before he said that. The real killer already knew Dexter was involved because he sent a his and hers box to her house, where as Hayes was just then learning of his existence.

Its not him. I think its Vogel in my opinion, its the way this show has gone. Vogel is toying with Dexter.

so the scene where she got both the boxes when she was alone and opened it was just to fuck with us?
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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
July 30 2013 14:56 GMT
#5953
On July 30 2013 23:52 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 23:47 jeremycafe wrote:
On July 30 2013 02:55 gedatsu wrote:
On July 30 2013 02:05 jeremycafe wrote:
On July 29 2013 19:51 kleetzor wrote:
I'm not sure about Hayes being the surgeon. I mean, had the surgeon not ALREADY sent a gift to each Dexter and Vogel (marked His and Hers), BEFORE he knew that Vogel had called upon Dexter for help, or even Dexter invaded Hayes' home?

Or did I miss so much to not put 2 and 2 together?


I am with you on this one. No way he is the brain guy. Nothing adds up to Hayes being the surgeon. I am surprised people actually think it was him based on what was presented in the show. No wonder so many people think Zimmerman is guilty...

There is one thing that does add up: when he sees Dexter snooping in his house, he says (paraphrasing) "Vogel has found herself a hero". How would he know that Vogel sent Dexter? If he isn't the surgeon, then they likely haven't had contact in some 20 years.


What the other guy said. He was listening to him talk to her on the phone before he said that. The real killer already knew Dexter was involved because he sent a his and hers box to her house, where as Hayes was just then learning of his existence.

Its not him. I think its Vogel in my opinion, its the way this show has gone. Vogel is toying with Dexter.

so the scene where she got both the boxes when she was alone and opened it was just to fuck with us?


Yeah doesn't make any sense for it to be Vogel.

I'll put my money on Masuka's daughter. Best twist ever.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Saturio
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands37 Posts
July 30 2013 15:01 GMT
#5954
For some reason I´m beginning to believe that Harry didn´t commit suicide but that Vogel killed him, but I can´t remember how definitive the `proof´ was that it was suicide. Mainly because they suddenly bring up his suicide again, and vogel has his `confession´ of not wanting to live with it (dexter murdering). Which might have meant he was going to turn him in and Vogel wanted to stop him. But I'm probably wrong and reading too much into it.
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 15:53:36
July 30 2013 15:53 GMT
#5955
On July 31 2013 00:01 Saturio wrote:
For some reason I´m beginning to believe that Harry didn´t commit suicide but that Vogel killed him, but I can´t remember how definitive the `proof´ was that it was suicide. Mainly because they suddenly bring up his suicide again, and vogel has his `confession´ of not wanting to live with it (dexter murdering). Which might have meant he was going to turn him in and Vogel wanted to stop him. But I'm probably wrong and reading too much into it.


That was my first reaction as well when I saw the recorded cd where Harry says he can't take this much longer with Vogel trying to console him. I think Dexter will go on a killing spree, Surgeon, Vogel w/ or w/o rich kid and possibly Yvonne (if she does make an appearance).
End my suffering
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 17:07:52
July 30 2013 17:07 GMT
#5956
To me, it seemed clear from the beginning that Vogel was going to be the main villain somehow. I'm still not sure in what capacity, but yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if she had killed Harry to prevent him from stopping Dexter.

This latest episode was not the greatest but it's at least a little encouraging. The previous one was so horrible :X
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 30 2013 17:48 GMT
#5957
This week's episode was so much better, I'm actually kind of excited for the next one. I guess it's probably because the sidequests are picking up. Masuka story is getting pretty entertaining. I have a feeling that Vogel is gonna turn out to be the main villain somehow. Maybe she's a psycho killer as well?
jeremycafe
Profile Joined March 2009
United States354 Posts
July 30 2013 18:20 GMT
#5958
On July 30 2013 23:52 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 23:47 jeremycafe wrote:
On July 30 2013 02:55 gedatsu wrote:
On July 30 2013 02:05 jeremycafe wrote:
On July 29 2013 19:51 kleetzor wrote:
I'm not sure about Hayes being the surgeon. I mean, had the surgeon not ALREADY sent a gift to each Dexter and Vogel (marked His and Hers), BEFORE he knew that Vogel had called upon Dexter for help, or even Dexter invaded Hayes' home?

Or did I miss so much to not put 2 and 2 together?


I am with you on this one. No way he is the brain guy. Nothing adds up to Hayes being the surgeon. I am surprised people actually think it was him based on what was presented in the show. No wonder so many people think Zimmerman is guilty...

There is one thing that does add up: when he sees Dexter snooping in his house, he says (paraphrasing) "Vogel has found herself a hero". How would he know that Vogel sent Dexter? If he isn't the surgeon, then they likely haven't had contact in some 20 years.


What the other guy said. He was listening to him talk to her on the phone before he said that. The real killer already knew Dexter was involved because he sent a his and hers box to her house, where as Hayes was just then learning of his existence.

Its not him. I think its Vogel in my opinion, its the way this show has gone. Vogel is toying with Dexter.

so the scene where she got both the boxes when she was alone and opened it was just to fuck with us?


It wouldn't surprise me. All last season they did the same type of stuff to try and throw us off. She is clearly up to something.
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
August 01 2013 15:10 GMT
#5959
Liked last season a lot except Hannah poisoning debra which seemed a little too obvious.

This season is pretty shit though, it has a few redeeming parts but overall it just seems to have no overall sense of direction.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
August 01 2013 15:12 GMT
#5960
I still wonder if they'll manage to pull all their shit together to make the 5 episodes lead up to something that matters...
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
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