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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
November 01 2019 18:58 GMT
#1
Coming December 20th to Netflix, the Witcher will be be developed based more on the books than the game. Starring Henry Cavill as Geralt of Rivia.

Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
November 01 2019 20:39 GMT
#2
Second trailer looks good.

Because this is on Netflix and I'm already a subscriber I have nothing really invested in giving this show a chance. I am hoping for it to be great, expecting it to be mediocre.

If Netflix can nail this though, that will be HUGE for them since their original content has been severely lacking since the Marvel and DC series' got cancelled.
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 02 2019 04:37 GMT
#3
I'm straight, but Henry Cavill is objectively a stud. He really nails a great interpretation of Doug Cockle's video game Geralt voice. I'm a bit bummed that they'll probably be skipping some of the short stories in this first season even though they're adapting from the books, but hopefully they nail the main storyline.
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Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
November 02 2019 06:18 GMT
#4
Hoping they'll do the franchise justice. Such a great character.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2266 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-02 17:03:00
November 02 2019 16:56 GMT
#5
Target audience is American and it shows. Roaring monsters is a thing that regularily piss me off in big budget american movies (hissing or being silent is in my opinion much more menacing than that, and I am pretty dissapointed that Witcher video games also took that direction). Casting decision also is for american audience to feel more familiar, and this one doesn't concern me at slightest. The fancy Nilfgardian armors is something I hate more thou. If it would be polish production, the special effects would be laughable, but the armor and costume designs would be much more realistic. I will never understand that Hollywood preferences for stupid looking mail plates that unfortunately polutes recent non-american works too. I also don't like that almost everyone looks like after just leaving a hairdresser, but I'm afraid it's just a film industry in general prefering that kind of characterisation.
However, I actually like Cavill's voice tone more than Cockle's (polish audience generally think that "batman-like" english VO is underwhelming in comparison to master-class Rozenek's more "natural" voice tone for Geralt. Someone on youtube wrote playing Witcher in english is like "eating soup with a fork" and I agree). Here, I actually really like this interpretation. Maybe its sound a little "mucho-type", but Camil doesn't sound like a guy who just drunk spiritus straight from a bottle, at least. Also, special effects look better than last time.
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-17 18:56:20
December 17 2019 18:35 GMT
#6


Release date this Friday.




Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
December 17 2019 19:58 GMT
#7
Oh boy
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 17 2019 22:06 GMT
#8
On November 02 2019 13:37 eviltomahawk wrote:
I'm straight, but Henry Cavill is objectively a stud. He really nails a great interpretation of Doug Cockle's video game Geralt voice. I'm a bit bummed that they'll probably be skipping some of the short stories in this first season even though they're adapting from the books, but hopefully they nail the main storyline.

he truly is a stud
i actually can't wait to see more of him
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ffswowsucks
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Greece2294 Posts
December 20 2019 09:58 GMT
#9
Its out! Anyone seen it yet? Gonna watch with a friend tonight.
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hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2266 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-20 11:23:12
December 20 2019 11:21 GMT
#10
In Poland reviews so far ranges between "It's avarage", "It's ok" and "It's boring". Mixed reviews at finest.
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
December 20 2019 13:30 GMT
#11
American reviews range from it's great to it's garbage. Watched about a quarter of the first episode and the dialogue isn't very good, but relatively faithful to the first short story in plot so far.

The main problem as I have seen described by a reviewer who has read the books is that the series has Yennefer, Ciri and Geralt as equal points of view from the start, when the original books were short stories firmly told from Geralt's point of view. The show jumps around in time from episode to episode or even scene to scene with no visual indicator to let someone know that is what happened, so characters who die may be alive in the past scenes or be younger or older than the last scene, ect. Ciri isn't even born yet when Geralt's original story is taking place, but she features in the first episode as if her story line is happening at the same time.

Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-20 13:51:23
December 20 2019 13:50 GMT
#12
After 3 episodes I think it's awesome. The thing that's bothering me the most is Triss not being a redhead, but that's a minor issue. I believe that some people might be outraged by characters not looking like in the games or the novels, but this doesn't detract from the fact that production quality with this show is above reproach.

Another big problem might be the confusion caused by so many short stories compounded into one overarching plot with plenty of time-shifts without indication. Personally I find it intriguing, trying to figure out at what point in time certain scenes happen (I read all the books but it was quite a while ago), is it the past or the present? At least when this will be over and they get to the actual cycle of the novels instead of short stories we'll get the real deal.

I assume they wanted to cram up all the short stories into the first season, setting up the characters and basic world building so they can move on to the actual real big story going forward.
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-20 14:04:48
December 20 2019 14:04 GMT
#13
Yeah I expect I will like it as well having read the books and played the game, but I can see how someone with no prior info on the Witcher world would be confused and not be able to follow what is going on with the time jumps.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
December 20 2019 16:10 GMT
#14
On December 20 2019 23:04 karazax wrote:
Yeah I expect I will like it as well having read the books and played the game, but I can see how someone with no prior info on the Witcher world would be confused and not be able to follow what is going on with the time jumps.


Well, they can just consider it kinda random character development. Just getting glimpses of different characters' lives as the show goes along.

I didn't know that Bagiński is an executive producer on this one. Also, the soundtrack is amazing. 5 episodes in and I only didn't really like ep 4 so far (kinda ruined Pavetta/Duny love story with unnecessary SJW inserts, but that's Netflix for you).
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-20 19:36:28
December 20 2019 18:46 GMT
#15
Here are some of my positives.

+ Show Spoiler +
1.Henry Cavill is fantastic. I'd go so far as to say he carries the acting in the show.
2.Solid first episode all around.
3.Very nice sword play. The Blaviken fight in particular
4.Nice action vs monsters. The striga fight in particular.
5.Jaskierr/Dandelion was delightfully annoying
6.Enjoyed the interactions with the Dwarves
7.The special effects were top notch for TV. Yen's transformation in particular was awesomely gruesome.
8.In general enjoyed the dark and gritty tone of the world. Very Witcher.


Some things I didn't like.
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1. Triss casting. I just could not buy that actress at that role.
2. Costume design. Which is odd considering I loved the FX. Seems like costume department got shafted.
3. Elves looked really dumb.
4. Outside of the first episode, the directing was really questionable. The "Westworld" style of doing 3 separate plots in 3 separate timelines in the same episode felt really disjointed. For someone with no prior knowledge of the characters that is going to be very hard to follow along with.
5. Generally didn't like the way that magic was portrayed.
6.Battle of Sodden Hill felt very underbudget considering it was supposed to be a last episode climax. Compare that battle to the Siege of Citra and there's no comparison it's like they were part of two different shows.
7.The use of gore felt a bit ridiculous and comical in places. Fringilla using her pawn's entrails made me actually laugh out loud.


Overall, this show was about as good as I was expecting it to be, but I had tempered my expectations because I didn't want to get them up too high. While it might be a faithful book adaptation it just didn't shine to me as "good TV." The episodes felt very disorganized in places, and the casting outside of Cavill felt... budget to put it nicely. It has some really splendid action, choreography and visuals though. The scenes where it's just Geralt being a Witcher are truly delightful, and it's those scenes that I want to see more of when Season 2 comes out.
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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
December 21 2019 02:31 GMT
#16
Giving this series an 8/10 so far (I'm halfway through).

I'd say I'm enjoying it just as much as I enjoyed early GoT. Acting is pretty good (Cavill is awesome), action, special effects, costumes, writing is all great. I am even enjoying the contrasts in timelines. I like that they aren't dumbing it down for TV and are trying to keep it more complex.

I do agree that the casting has been hit-or-miss and the portrayal of magic is "eh".
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11349 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-21 10:30:39
December 21 2019 10:28 GMT
#17
Watched the first one. Generally liked it. However, I don't think they quite hit enough markers to make it obvious enough that Renfrei is a Snow White analog, which is one of the fun things about the Witcher-verse (the dark retelling of the old fairy stories).

A bigger thing for me is at least in the first episode, I don't think they've captured Ciri's personality. I haven't read beyond the short stories so far, but she's hilarious. You don't really see her as a princess in her element in the books, she's mostly fish out of water so maybe in the tv series they just haven't hit their stride with her yet. Book Ciri is ridiculously precocious, which I think works better with a younger girl- the snotty brat, who nonetheless needs to survive with the witcher. I laugh at so many of her lines in the books (often she'll pick up a line from the adults, but the way she proudly reuses it somehow is very amusing to me- the monkey see, monkey do), and while there is a lot of direct dialogue with Geralt, Renfrei and that wizard, it's just missing with Ciri so far.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
December 21 2019 11:14 GMT
#18
Finished it. Overall was really good, my biggest gripe would be some miscasts (Geralt's mom would be great as Triss instead). Can't wait to see what they'll do in the next season.
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
December 21 2019 13:19 GMT
#19
I liked it a lot.

However it seems like a homeless man’s version of Berserk (Japanese manga/anime)
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5536 Posts
December 21 2019 16:47 GMT
#20
@Falling

The fairy stories are pretty dark on their own. It's the Disney renditions that are mellow and "lived happily ever after".
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-21 17:38:32
December 21 2019 17:34 GMT
#21
I found it pretty good, most of the cast was good, so was the actions, monsters were great too, the Ciri story was a bit stale tho.
With that said, it kinda didn't have a plot and going from storyline to storyline was kinda jarring sometime. It made it hard to figure out where exactly we were in time, especialy since Yen and Geralt don't age (but Jaskier also didn't seem to age so that was confusing). I was never quite sure if we had skip a year or three decade, for exemple Geralt save the Striga in like episode 4, but 4 episode later to what I tought was like 30 years Folest has not age a day.

They also seemed to be quite expeditive with exposition, I would be curious if someone here has watch it without reading the books/play the games? How much of it was understandable?
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Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
December 21 2019 21:18 GMT
#22
Watched first episode last night. Not as bad as I'd feared but not as good as I'd hoped.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
December 22 2019 00:29 GMT
#23
On December 22 2019 02:34 Nakajin wrote:
I found it pretty good, most of the cast was good, so was the actions, monsters were great too, the Ciri story was a bit stale tho.
With that said, it kinda didn't have a plot and going from storyline to storyline was kinda jarring sometime. It made it hard to figure out where exactly we were in time, especialy since Yen and Geralt don't age (but Jaskier also didn't seem to age so that was confusing). I was never quite sure if we had skip a year or three decade, for exemple Geralt save the Striga in like episode 4, but 4 episode later to what I tought was like 30 years Folest has not age a day.

They also seemed to be quite expeditive with exposition, I would be curious if someone here has watch it without reading the books/play the games? How much of it was understandable?


Well, there are clues as to what happens when. For example, in the very first episode when Geralt talks to Renfri she mentions a recent battle that princess Calantha has won. Earlier in the episode the same battle is mentioned when Ciri talks to queen Calantha about her first battle that she won when she was her age. This would imply that events in Blaviken happen 30-50 years before the sacking of Cintra.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-22 02:11:26
December 22 2019 02:08 GMT
#24
I liked it quite a bit, Yennefer and Geralt's actors respectively do quite a good job (Henry's "hmm" is very well on point as well as his blunt "fuck"), I thought the Ciri plotline started out great but ended up slugging down quite a bit, I am looking forward to S2 and Ciri+Geralt interactions though, I feel like it will turn out to be great.

I do however have some dumb issue with Triss not being redhead.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
December 22 2019 03:57 GMT
#25
On December 22 2019 11:08 Kipsate wrote:
I do however have some dumb issue with Triss not being redhead.


You're not alone with this. Another thing that was bothering me a bit was that elves were pretty ugly. And they could definitely do more work with the dryads.

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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-22 06:10:19
December 22 2019 05:58 GMT
#26
I think it's awesome. Henry Cavill did a splendid job as Geralt. His screen presence is amazing. So much close up work and stuff but he really carries it. Anya Chalotra also did great as Yennefer.

I think the action scenes are quite great too, that market fight in the first episode got me so hyped. Monsters look great and the fighting is visceral and feels to have impact.

I also love how omnipresent magic is and how often it gets used. The general world building is great and the costumes are gorgeous.

The way the bard speaks broke the 4th wall for me sometimes. Don't know but it feels like the way he talks and his mannerisms are too 'current day' in a way.

I don't really care about Triss' hair colour but I do think they should have cast someone more ' enchanting' in the looks department at least. Triss should be a stunner.
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11349 Posts
December 22 2019 07:41 GMT
#27
On December 22 2019 01:47 maybenexttime wrote:
@Falling

The fairy stories are pretty dark on their own. It's the Disney renditions that are mellow and "lived happily ever after".

I know- but I think the Witcher's are darker yet.
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Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
December 22 2019 19:28 GMT
#28
Pretty good season overall. The only thing I have a problem with is the ball sack armor... I don't know why it is there and who's idea it was. They should just retcon it in the next season.
Other than that, pretty solid storytelling.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
December 23 2019 00:58 GMT
#29
I don't agree with how Yennifer's, Geralt's, and Ciri's storylines are not chronologically aligned with each other until later in the season. It seems to make the plot unnecessarily confusing, though I've already read the books so I know what's going on. I kinda want to see the show re-edited into something that's more in order or doesn't jump around between plotlines.

Otherwise, I'm enjoying the show so far. Henry Cavill is a treasure.
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Profile Joined December 2019
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-23 18:12:53
December 23 2019 01:00 GMT
#30
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
December 23 2019 01:09 GMT
#31
as an avid witcher fan i must say that everything i feared was done in this "show"
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
December 23 2019 01:25 GMT
#32
On December 23 2019 10:09 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
as an avid witcher fan i must say that everything i feared was done in this "show"


I'm curious what were your principals problems with it?
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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-23 05:26:59
December 23 2019 05:26 GMT
#33
As I keep watching I actually find the intertwined timelines to be really interesting. If you pay close enough attention you can understand the relationship between the different timelines in each episode.

Ultimately I think it's an artistic choice and I think it's a really good one. It sacrifices convoluted exposition for much more organically presented material, and the different timelines being shown simultaneously is a great contrast between the different main characters as they develop.
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Elerris
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia137 Posts
December 23 2019 05:31 GMT
#34
From the perspective of someone who hasn't read the books and has only a few hours played in W3, I found the different timelines pretty confusing. For example, I didn't know Yennifer/Geralt were potentially hundreds of years old, so until that was mentioned I found myself often sitting and thinking about how on earth these things fit together. Perhaps if they added dates on each of the flashbacks I might have understood it more. Regardless, I really enjoyed the show and am itching for more.

Favourite things thus far have been Henry's casting as Geralt and that song 'Toss a coin to your Witcher' from the bard.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13876 Posts
December 23 2019 06:05 GMT
#35
Geralt and the bard was the highlight of the show for me. Toss a coin to your witcher had some real hook to it and the fight scenes were properly violent without being gory.

The season-long story was poor I think but there were some really great standalone episodes.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-23 10:05:07
December 23 2019 10:02 GMT
#36
I'm re-watching it now with Polish dubbing and I have to say it's probably better than the original English version. Maybe not for people who aren't speaking Polish, but damn, they made the effort to use older version of the language and I always felt that English "fuck", while versatile, is not nearly potent enough and Polish "kurwa" solves the problem. I'm having a blast.

On December 23 2019 15:05 Sermokala wrote:
The season-long story was poor I think but there were some really great standalone episodes.


Well the season-long story was bound to be poor since it was based off of a series of mostly unconnected short stories with some stuff thrown in by the writers and some parts of later books added to the mix.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 23 2019 10:35 GMT
#37
I binged it over 2-3 days despite not thinking that it's all that great, i guess being ill makes you do weird things
The show lacks sophistication in its writing atm, very little connective tissue between episodes to make it feel like a big story (sure the source were short stories apparently, but this has to work as a show regardless). It simply doesn't work all that well if they tell us about things but don't give us the meat to care about it. Say Geralt's bond with Yennefer. They meet for the first time in one episode and in the next they meet each other again, apparently years and years passed because it is implied that a lot of history happened between the two already. No audience which only knows the show can care there, it's sloppy.
The grander narrative is also not told in a compelling way, so far i have no real idea about the political scenario other than very surface level "nilfgaard bad". Maybe that's all there is to it, but it's a little disappointing.
And yet it somehow has me intrigued enough to probably keep watching for season 2, i hope they spend more timing actually developing all the aspects we have seen so far, be it characterisation, grander narrative or even standalone stories. Overall it just felt rushed with not enough depth to anything yet.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
December 23 2019 11:41 GMT
#38
It's just background exposition for what's about to happen (the real story). I'm reserving my judgement until I see how they handle that.
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8978 Posts
December 23 2019 13:12 GMT
#39
I haven't read or played the game, but I found it to be pretty good. Took a few episodes to understand the timeline thing, but it works in its own way. The characters were cast excellently and Ciri didn't annoy me as most young protags are wont to do.
Some bits of the story could have been explained further (the invasion, why they need the girl, a bit more of Geralt's backstory) but for the most part I could follow tit. I mean, it.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2536 Posts
December 23 2019 14:31 GMT
#40
This show's a mixed bag. Some things are great, like Geralt, Jasper, and some of the CGI monsters. However, some things are embarrassingly bad - basically all of the magic shit - Yennefer, Fringilla, Aretuza, and the terrible magic system they made up.

I don't know who they hired to write the dialogue of this show but it was incredibly melodramatic and cliche garbage and belongs in a Spanish soap opera. None of the character's dialogue was convincing. They were all hamming it up like they were in a high school play. Frankly, it was embarrassing to watch.

The first couple episodes were good, but the last few were so bad that it left a horrible taste in my mouth. I was disgusted by how bad it was. It was as if I had a steak dinner with a plate of shit as my dessert. The finale in particular was so fucking dumb that I debated turning it off many times and still can't believe I sat through it. What an absolute travesty.
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Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
December 23 2019 14:46 GMT
#41
I liked most of it alot, it was very The Witcher. Triss obviously felt wrong for someone like me who only know the characters from the games but other than that they managed to catch the atmosphere from the games very well. The dialogue is silly at times but that's what I would expect from The Witcher.

I didn't like the magic and mages bit in the last episode though.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-23 19:05:54
December 23 2019 17:51 GMT
#42
Just learned Henry Cavill is both a fantasy book reader and a PC gamer. (apparently he almost missed the call from Zack Snyder to be superman because he was in a dungeon in WoW and didn't pick up). He's also played the Witcher games a lot. Combine this background with his physical stature, no wonder he's such a good fit for Geralt.
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Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
December 23 2019 18:09 GMT
#43
I don't know who they hired to write the dialogue of this show but it was incredibly melodramatic and cliche garbage and belongs in a Spanish soap opera. None of the character's dialogue was convincing. They were all hamming it up like they were in a high school play. Frankly, it was embarrassing to watch.


Yeah I've only watched two episodes but the dialogue is causing me to cringe so bad. Is that stupid bard guy supposed to be Dandelion??? And yeah the melodrama is way over the top and jarring. I wish they'd gone the book route and introduced us to a fun, devil-may-care Geralt before dumping a bunch of brooding and sob stories upon us. In the books everybody is lively and fun in spite of a dreary world, here they are just dreary.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
December 23 2019 21:17 GMT
#44
On December 24 2019 03:09 Starlightsun wrote:
Is that stupid bard guy supposed to be Dandelion???


Yup, Jaskier is Dandelion in Polish (the name of the flower).
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8042 Posts
December 24 2019 01:45 GMT
#45
On December 24 2019 03:09 Starlightsun wrote:
Show nested quote +
I don't know who they hired to write the dialogue of this show but it was incredibly melodramatic and cliche garbage and belongs in a Spanish soap opera. None of the character's dialogue was convincing. They were all hamming it up like they were in a high school play. Frankly, it was embarrassing to watch.


Yeah I've only watched two episodes but the dialogue is causing me to cringe so bad. Is that stupid bard guy supposed to be Dandelion??? And yeah the melodrama is way over the top and jarring. I wish they'd gone the book route and introduced us to a fun, devil-may-care Geralt before dumping a bunch of brooding and sob stories upon us. In the books everybody is lively and fun in spite of a dreary world, here they are just dreary.


Did we read the same books..? Geralt was depressed all throughout, constantly hating himself and everyone around him. He literally ends the firat book telling people to not look at him because he's so hideous. His self hate makes him treat everyone else like crap, especially Jaskier and Yen, tho Yen treats him equally bad so those two are fucking made for each other at least. He was never devil-may-care, and more devil-I-don't-care-if-I-die, until he met Ciri at least. The series captured him perfectly imo.

I hope they don't follow the books too closely going forward tho, otherwise we'll be treated to 90% teenage witch drama bullshit, 5% game of thrones, and only 5% actual Geralt stuff. He's practically a side character in his own books, which is my biggest gripe with them.
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
December 24 2019 03:56 GMT
#46
Maybe I'm remembering the books wrong. Been several years since I read them. I just remembered liking the characters so much that I couldn't wait to spend time with them.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
December 24 2019 06:52 GMT
#47
On December 23 2019 23:31 Hyperbola wrote:
This show's a mixed bag. Some things are great, like Geralt, Jasper, and some of the CGI monsters. However, some things are embarrassingly bad - basically all of the magic shit - Yennefer, Fringilla, Aretuza, and the terrible magic system they made up.

I don't know who they hired to write the dialogue of this show but it was incredibly melodramatic and cliche garbage and belongs in a Spanish soap opera. None of the character's dialogue was convincing. They were all hamming it up like they were in a high school play. Frankly, it was embarrassing to watch.

The first couple episodes were good, but the last few were so bad that it left a horrible taste in my mouth. I was disgusted by how bad it was. It was as if I had a steak dinner with a plate of shit as my dessert. The finale in particular was so fucking dumb that I debated turning it off many times and still can't believe I sat through it. What an absolute travesty.


Oh what you didn't enjoy how often the word DESTINY was used? rofl.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-24 23:29:05
December 24 2019 14:50 GMT
#48
On December 24 2019 15:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2019 23:31 Hyperbola wrote:
This show's a mixed bag. Some things are great, like Geralt, Jasper, and some of the CGI monsters. However, some things are embarrassingly bad - basically all of the magic shit - Yennefer, Fringilla, Aretuza, and the terrible magic system they made up.

I don't know who they hired to write the dialogue of this show but it was incredibly melodramatic and cliche garbage and belongs in a Spanish soap opera. None of the character's dialogue was convincing. They were all hamming it up like they were in a high school play. Frankly, it was embarrassing to watch.

The first couple episodes were good, but the last few were so bad that it left a horrible taste in my mouth. I was disgusted by how bad it was. It was as if I had a steak dinner with a plate of shit as my dessert. The finale in particular was so fucking dumb that I debated turning it off many times and still can't believe I sat through it. What an absolute travesty.


Oh what you didn't enjoy how often the word DESTINY was used? rofl.


Hahaha, after all, the book those stories were contained in was titled The Sword of Destiny.

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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
December 25 2019 08:26 GMT
#49
Who else likes that song in the end of ep 2?
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8042 Posts
December 25 2019 12:45 GMT
#50
On December 25 2019 17:26 Dav1oN wrote:
Who else likes that song in the end of ep 2?


It's way better than it has any right to be. I haven't been able to get it off of my mind.

They hired an excellent actor for Jaskier. His voice is amazing.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
December 25 2019 13:33 GMT
#51
Do you mean this song?



I think they did a pretty good job overall with the soundtrack for the series.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25016 Posts
December 25 2019 19:45 GMT
#52
Is worth watching as a Witcher virgin who wants to play the Witcher 3?

It sounds like something I definitely would like, just not sure where to jump in first? I probably should start with the books but I have such a big reading backlog as it is
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
December 25 2019 20:24 GMT
#53
On December 26 2019 04:45 Wombat_NI wrote:
Is worth watching as a Witcher virgin who wants to play the Witcher 3?

It sounds like something I definitely would like, just not sure where to jump in first? I probably should start with the books but I have such a big reading backlog as it is


You can jump right in. It might be a bit confusing in the beginning but you'll manage. The games have pretty convoluted plot anyway and don't really follow the books (since you can choose to side with different factions and parties).
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Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-25 22:42:05
December 25 2019 21:45 GMT
#54
I recommend this 9/10 ... really nice especially from ep.4 on. Didn't know the books and played like 1 hour of The Witcher 3 game. Looking forward to the next season.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11349 Posts
December 26 2019 08:09 GMT
#55
On December 26 2019 04:45 Wombat_NI wrote:
Is worth watching as a Witcher virgin who wants to play the Witcher 3?

It sounds like something I definitely would like, just not sure where to jump in first? I probably should start with the books but I have such a big reading backlog as it is

I personally played Witcher 3, then 1 and 2, then began reading the books and no problem understanding what was going on (though I have a tendency to read a lot of things out of order). I found it rather fascinating actually when reading the books: 'oh, that's where they got that idea from." I'm sure the tv series has been designed so that a person absolutely ignorant of the lore would be able to learn as they go.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8042 Posts
December 26 2019 18:27 GMT
#56
On December 26 2019 17:09 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2019 04:45 Wombat_NI wrote:
Is worth watching as a Witcher virgin who wants to play the Witcher 3?

It sounds like something I definitely would like, just not sure where to jump in first? I probably should start with the books but I have such a big reading backlog as it is

I personally played Witcher 3, then 1 and 2, then began reading the books and no problem understanding what was going on (though I have a tendency to read a lot of things out of order). I found it rather fascinating actually when reading the books: 'oh, that's where they got that idea from." I'm sure the tv series has been designed so that a person absolutely ignorant of the lore would be able to learn as they go.


It is, but you have to pay attention. It doesn't hand hold you at all. You can't half ass this series while playing world of warcraft on the side. Since the neither the Witcher nor Yen actually ages, it can be really difficult to understand that some of these plots are decades apart. Tho by episode 4 they start coming togheter, so you should be able to realise where the timelines are in comparison to each other.
TheGloob
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
97 Posts
December 27 2019 00:30 GMT
#57
i just finished it and really really enjoyed it. but i'm coming in as a henry cavill fan and someone who only played the witcher 3 (and really liked it). that said, i don't know if i'll be able to wait 2 years for more witcher content. if i'm going to play the other games or read the books, is there any order that would make sense? or should i just jump right into whatever i can find?
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-27 05:15:48
December 27 2019 01:14 GMT
#58
On December 27 2019 09:30 TheGloob wrote:
i just finished it and really really enjoyed it. but i'm coming in as a henry cavill fan and someone who only played the witcher 3 (and really liked it). that said, i don't know if i'll be able to wait 2 years for more witcher content. if i'm going to play the other games or read the books, is there any order that would make sense? or should i just jump right into whatever i can find?


With the books it does matter. There's the first two books that the show is based upon The Last Wish (previously titled as The Witcher) and Sword of Destiny which are a collection of short stories first published in various magazines and then collected into a book.

From there on starts the actual big story that spans over 5 books, first of which is Blood of Elves and that's the one you want to begin with.

Books in order: The Last Wish, Sword of Destiny, Blood of Elves, Time of Contempt, Baptism of Fire, Tower of the Swallow, Lady of the Lake.

Note: some titles may vary as what you get above is what I've translated directly from the Polish titles.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25016 Posts
December 27 2019 01:25 GMT
#59
Thanks for the response to my previous queries, giving this show a shot and enjoying it so far
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8042 Posts
December 27 2019 02:10 GMT
#60
On December 27 2019 10:14 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2019 09:30 TheGloob wrote:
i just finished it and really really enjoyed it. but i'm coming in as a henry cavill fan and someone who only played the witcher 3 (and really liked it). that said, i don't know if i'll be able to wait 2 years for more witcher content. if i'm going to play the other games or read the books, is there any order that would make sense? or should i just jump right into whatever i can find?


With the books it does matter. There's the first book that the show is based upon (it'll be titled The Witcher or Sword of Destiny) which is a collection of short stories first published in various magazines and then collected into a book.

From there on starts the actual big story that spans over 5 books, first of which is Blood of Elves and that's the one you want to begin with.

Books in order: Sword of Destiny, Blood of Elves, Time of Contempt, Baptism of Fire, Tower of the Swallow, Lady of the Lake.

Note: some titles may vary as what you get above is what I've translated directly from the Polish titles.


There's two books of short stories, with the second one being Sword of Destiny. The first one is called "The Last Wish", which is the one you should start with.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
December 27 2019 04:23 GMT
#61
Enjoyed it very much. Already watching it a second time and there’s so much metaphors and symbolism. Wife came in as a Cavill fan and is now head deep into The Witcher 3.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-27 05:07:35
December 27 2019 05:06 GMT
#62
On December 27 2019 11:10 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2019 10:14 Manit0u wrote:
On December 27 2019 09:30 TheGloob wrote:
i just finished it and really really enjoyed it. but i'm coming in as a henry cavill fan and someone who only played the witcher 3 (and really liked it). that said, i don't know if i'll be able to wait 2 years for more witcher content. if i'm going to play the other games or read the books, is there any order that would make sense? or should i just jump right into whatever i can find?


With the books it does matter. There's the first book that the show is based upon (it'll be titled The Witcher or Sword of Destiny) which is a collection of short stories first published in various magazines and then collected into a book.

From there on starts the actual big story that spans over 5 books, first of which is Blood of Elves and that's the one you want to begin with.

Books in order: The Last Wish, Sword of Destiny, Blood of Elves, Time of Contempt, Baptism of Fire, Tower of the Swallow, Lady of the Lake.

Note: some titles may vary as what you get above is what I've translated directly from the Polish titles.


There's two books of short stories, with the second one being Sword of Destiny. The first one is called "The Last Wish", which is the one you should start with.


You're right, my bad. The Last Wish was previously titled as The Witcher. Updated my previous post to avoid confusion.
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FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
December 29 2019 22:03 GMT
#63
Finished it this morning. Stull fuzzy on some things, since I've never played the games nor read the books. So Im guessing there's plenty of stuff that flies over my head, but it was still very enjoyable. I thought everything was great except one thing: Im not a big fan of the stylized armor and some of the stylized shots. Wish it was grittier and more realistic, more like GoT I guess. The cast did a phenomenal job, I loved all the performances and their characters. That alone is more than enough for me to tune in for season 2.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32049 Posts
December 30 2019 00:30 GMT
#64
On December 23 2019 15:05 Sermokala wrote:
Geralt and the bard was the highlight of the show for me. Toss a coin to your witcher had some real hook to it and the fight scenes were properly violent without being gory.

The season-long story was poor I think but there were some really great standalone episodes.


These two are far and away the best parts of the show. Overall I like it and I think I will like it more in season 2 with more backing behind it.
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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10655 Posts
December 30 2019 01:53 GMT
#65
Well I’ll be: I didn’t know this was the Superman actor. Really good job by Henry Cavill.

Love the pacing and world introduction. Not a big fan of the games but I love the story.
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
December 30 2019 14:43 GMT
#66
So far so good. Never read or played anything witcher related but it seems cool so far. Still much left for me to see in S1 tho.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10683 Posts
December 30 2019 14:56 GMT
#67
On December 30 2019 09:30 QuanticHawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2019 15:05 Sermokala wrote:
Geralt and the bard was the highlight of the show for me. Toss a coin to your witcher had some real hook to it and the fight scenes were properly violent without being gory.

The season-long story was poor I think but there were some really great standalone episodes.


These two are far and away the best parts of the show. Overall I like it and I think I will like it more in season 2 with more backing behind it.


Jup, i also really liked it. I hope in S2 we get a more, ahm, traditional plot tho.
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Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19133 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-31 10:59:25
December 31 2019 10:58 GMT
#68
I enjoyed the casting but the script writer really failed at his or her job imo. The season was messy, and at times confusing, especially for those new to the series and not having read the books. The time lines of the three main protagonists was impossible to understand while it was happening without context and the final episode was very incoherent. It was clear what they were trying to accomplish but it missed all the marks and was by far the worst episode of the season according to my tastes.

edit; Still enjoyed it and will be back for S2, 7 out of 10 thanks to the strong cast.
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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10655 Posts
December 31 2019 21:54 GMT
#69
Ya the story execution felt very fragmented. And to get through the last 3 eps I had to skip through all the Yennefer scenes. I still recommend this series, it went well beyond my expectations.
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hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2266 Posts
January 01 2020 00:42 GMT
#70
BTW who the fuck came out with the eel thing? It was not in the book. It's really miracle that sorceresses didnt get fried on the stake much sooner with that kind of disturbing shit.
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11349 Posts
January 01 2020 02:48 GMT
#71
It strikes me there are some minor things that could improve its coherency without making substantial changes. Include some title cards "80 years ago" the first few time jumps in every episode. Once established, they shouldn't need to do it for the rest of the episode, but just as a reminder at the beginning of each episode. And then if they aren't going to include location title cards, then just have Geralt look at a map early on for other reasons, but also to highlight where Cintra/ the war is in relation to the witcher. Then at least it would be easier to tell where Ciri and Geralt are, if not Yennifer.
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Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19133 Posts
January 01 2020 10:19 GMT
#72
On January 01 2020 11:48 Falling wrote:
It strikes me there are some minor things that could improve its coherency without making substantial changes. Include some title cards "80 years ago" the first few time jumps in every episode. Once established, they shouldn't need to do it for the rest of the episode, but just as a reminder at the beginning of each episode. And then if they aren't going to include location title cards, then just have Geralt look at a map early on for other reasons, but also to highlight where Cintra/ the war is in relation to the witcher. Then at least it would be easier to tell where Ciri and Geralt are, if not Yennifer.

Totally agree, such simple measures. The map is a nice touch.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32049 Posts
January 01 2020 17:16 GMT
#73
i agree with all of those

I don't think there was some huge payoff with having the viewer be surprised later either
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Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-02 02:46:32
January 02 2020 02:42 GMT
#74
On January 02 2020 02:16 QuanticHawk wrote:
i agree with all of those

I don't think there was some huge payoff with having the viewer be surprised later either


i was so confused until like ep 4 or 5 when I started to figure it out
then spent like the next 2 episodes trying to explain it to my parents
don't think they ever quite got it lol


oh, and for anyone wondering,
yes I did sit through every sex scene while watching with my parents
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 02 2020 04:53 GMT
#75
I loved it, way better than I was expecting. I had some serious doubts and didn't have confidence in Henry Cavill (boy was I wrong on that one!)


Sure there were some issues, but overall I loved it. The cast is strong, with Triss being the only one I didn't like. Henry is the perfect Geralt and I can't wait for season 2.
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ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3809 Posts
January 02 2020 06:59 GMT
#76
Finished it today.
Absolutely loved it! The fight choreographing was really good, especially the fight in the first episode. I haven't read the books but I played the games a bit so the magic thing seemed okay to me.

As for the convoluted timelines, I think there was enough hinting and alluding given that it was okay in my eyes. I agree with the suggestions Fallen said for the most part, but I think the back and forth really gave me a sense of how less important time is to Geralt/Yen. Some sort of map would have been very nice though...
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8042 Posts
January 02 2020 10:12 GMT
#77
On January 02 2020 15:59 ShloobeR wrote:
Finished it today.
Absolutely loved it! The fight choreographing was really good, especially the fight in the first episode. I haven't read the books but I played the games a bit so the magic thing seemed okay to me.

As for the convoluted timelines, I think there was enough hinting and alluding given that it was okay in my eyes. I agree with the suggestions Fallen said for the most part, but I think the back and forth really gave me a sense of how less important time is to Geralt/Yen. Some sort of map would have been very nice though...


Second the suggestion for a proper map. That's my biggest peeve with the books. Not only is there no map, but the author seemingly changes his mind on where the countries/factions and borders are in every one of them. It might work for a collection of short, mostly episodic, stories. But once you start adding in political intrigue, continent wide wars, and long travels, a lack of a map only serves to confuse the viewer.

Apparently they even made a map for the series (and used it as a background prop somewhere), so all they had to do was show it to us once in a while.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10655 Posts
January 02 2020 18:02 GMT
#78
I would also like to admit that Geralt had me swooning at moments. His character was funny and badass.
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
January 03 2020 23:34 GMT
#79
Finished watching it. Really enjoy it.

The jumping timelines did not bother me at all. Neither did Yen or the last few episodes.

Really nice show. Will probably make me buy the W3. Should I go for the PC version or the Switch version?
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
January 04 2020 00:54 GMT
#80
On January 04 2020 08:34 KobraKay wrote:
Finished watching it. Really enjoy it.

The jumping timelines did not bother me at all. Neither did Yen or the last few episodes.

Really nice show. Will probably make me buy the W3. Should I go for the PC version or the Switch version?


Anything but Switch, it dosen't run well on it.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-04 03:46:25
January 04 2020 03:45 GMT
#81
On January 04 2020 08:34 KobraKay wrote:
Finished watching it. Really enjoy it.

The jumping timelines did not bother me at all. Neither did Yen or the last few episodes.

Really nice show. Will probably make me buy the W3. Should I go for the PC version or the Switch version?


If you're not playing it on PC you're playing it wrong, specifically a PC with a dedicated SSD. On console the loading screens are outrageous.

I actually built my current PC (about 2 years old now) just to play Witcher 3 on max settings and I do not regret a single penny.

Not to mention, I've been able to find the entire Witcher 3 game including its DLC for 20 bucks on Steam sale. I don't know if you can get that on console.
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
January 04 2020 08:44 GMT
#82
Thank you both very much for that input. PC it is then!
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
January 04 2020 08:57 GMT
#83
why the jumping timeline? They could habe started with it (i think ep5 and 6) and then with ep1. It would be a straightforward (chronographically) timeline.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25016 Posts
January 04 2020 12:39 GMT
#84
Actually really enjoyed that, despite being a Witcher virgin.

I think the time hopping wasn’t confusing but I think I read about it in this thread, so that probably made me more alert to it.

Holy shit a battle that made some kind of sense! Ok if I’m being picky I’m not sure how Yennefer and Tissaia managed to wander out and meet, but compared to GoT’s last efforts I knew what was going on and the defence plan/counter efforts from Fringilla all made some kind of sense.

Universe seems rather rich, I like all the characters thus far in the sense they’re believable characters with believable motivations, although I wouldn’t necessarily want to hang out with some of them.

I felt Yaskier and Geralt‘s interactions added some much-needed levity to proceedings so not sure what is going to happen there, things might be a bit too po-faced and sombre without those kind of interactions going forwards.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8042 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-04 14:04:10
January 04 2020 14:02 GMT
#85
On January 04 2020 17:57 Dingodile wrote:
why the jumping timeline? They could habe started with it (i think ep5 and 6) and then with ep1. It would be a straightforward (chronographically) timeline.


It's so they could add in some of the earlier short stories from Geralt and Yen's lives (Which shapes them as characters), while also introducing Ciri in the first episode (If I recall, Ciri isn't introduced until the second book, while season 1 of the series encompasses stories from both the first two books).

Since the first two books are just a series of mostly episodic short stories, it was always going two be difficult to shape them into a cohesive tv series. Season 2 should be a lot smoother as that's when the saga begins properly.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
January 05 2020 18:45 GMT
#86
On January 04 2020 23:02 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2020 17:57 Dingodile wrote:
why the jumping timeline? They could habe started with it (i think ep5 and 6) and then with ep1. It would be a straightforward (chronographically) timeline.


It's so they could add in some of the earlier short stories from Geralt and Yen's lives (Which shapes them as characters), while also introducing Ciri in the first episode (If I recall, Ciri isn't introduced until the second book, while season 1 of the series encompasses stories from both the first two books).

Since the first two books are just a series of mostly episodic short stories, it was always going two be difficult to shape them into a cohesive tv series. Season 2 should be a lot smoother as that's when the saga begins properly.

I really want to see the short stories A Grain of Truth and A Little Sacrifice get adapted at some point, though they'll likely move onto book 3 so I'm not sure how they'll be able to squeeze those in.
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Excludos
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Norway8042 Posts
January 05 2020 20:14 GMT
#87
On January 06 2020 03:45 eviltomahawk wrote:
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On January 04 2020 23:02 Excludos wrote:
On January 04 2020 17:57 Dingodile wrote:
why the jumping timeline? They could habe started with it (i think ep5 and 6) and then with ep1. It would be a straightforward (chronographically) timeline.


It's so they could add in some of the earlier short stories from Geralt and Yen's lives (Which shapes them as characters), while also introducing Ciri in the first episode (If I recall, Ciri isn't introduced until the second book, while season 1 of the series encompasses stories from both the first two books).

Since the first two books are just a series of mostly episodic short stories, it was always going two be difficult to shape them into a cohesive tv series. Season 2 should be a lot smoother as that's when the saga begins properly.

I really want to see the short stories A Grain of Truth and A Little Sacrifice get adapted at some point, though they'll likely move onto book 3 so I'm not sure how they'll be able to squeeze those in.


A Little Sacrifice is my favourite of the short stories. It gives Jaskier some much needed character development, and shows us some of the crap he has to go through. The gut punch it leaves you with at the end really fucking hurts too.

Tho they could also so what Witcher 3 did, and rework the character of Essi into a future storyline instead.
TropicalHaze
Profile Joined May 2014
Finland56 Posts
January 06 2020 19:50 GMT
#88
Has the plot/setting for season 2 been revealed yet?

I just hoped that Ciri and Geralt would've met sooner in the series - their chemistry is what makes Witcher for me! Anyone more familiar with the lore (I've only played the games) could enlighten me what is coming next. Is it that Geralt and Vesemir start to train Ciri or do they get separated again before that? My memory is hazy.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8042 Posts
January 06 2020 20:36 GMT
#89
On January 07 2020 04:50 TropicalHaze wrote:
Has the plot/setting for season 2 been revealed yet?

I just hoped that Ciri and Geralt would've met sooner in the series - their chemistry is what makes Witcher for me! Anyone more familiar with the lore (I've only played the games) could enlighten me what is coming next. Is it that Geralt and Vesemir start to train Ciri or do they get separated again before that? My memory is hazy.


Not specifically, but we do know they plan on following the books. I don't want to spoil anything for you (and everyone else here who also haven't read the books), but I don't think I'm hurting anyone by revealing that this is where the saga begins proper. While the games acts as sequels, they still borrow and reuse many of the stories and characters from the books. So if you've played the games (especially the third one), a lot of what you see will be familiar to you.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
January 10 2020 15:03 GMT
#90
The audio books are really well done, and you can get the first book free with a trial of Audible. Each character has their own distinct voice.
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