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blade55555
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Slaughter
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Shock710
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None of the sayains during friezas rule could due to them all practically being evil invaders. As for vegeta his moment of transformation was at his lowest he let go of his desires of power, pride and revenge it was in my eyes pure of heart for that moment and power was there. Gohan pretty much the same as goku. Then trunks and goten were incredibly powerful having spared with each other and the training in some sort, hard to imagine them watching vegeta (goten probably hung around trunks alot) and not training. When we seen them as kids they are the most buff kids i have ever seen in any anime also with being kids comes the pure heart/innocence. So for the U6 sayains i personally dont care how they transform because theyre not the sayians we know despite sharing the name (and it blows a hole in my 2nd require of good heartedness) Edit: nvm the orginal ssj seems to be a bad sayian | ||
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Shock710
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On June 04 2017 12:57 Slaughter wrote: How did Gohan 1st get SSJ? Cell saga time chamber with his dad | ||
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LegalLord
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On June 04 2017 12:57 Slaughter wrote: How did Gohan 1st get SSJ? Tanking a big energy blast until he realized that being a child everyone bails out won't save him. | ||
BigFan
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On June 04 2017 12:57 Slaughter wrote: How did Gohan 1st get SSJ? During the cell arc, as vegeta and trunks ascended to the next level (the bulky form) and were fighting Cell, Goku was training Gohan in the time chamber. Gohan thought that Goku was taking it easy on him and asked him to be serious, because everything was at stake. Goku realizing that Gohan was right decided to go SSJ and fired a huge kamehameha wave that Gohan was barely holding back. As he lost ground and was being pushed back, he came to the realization that he needed power. Everything prior to that (all the previous incident) had happened because he was afraid and was always reliant on others to save him. Eventually, he focused after hearing "Power comes by need" and realized that he had to step up or he'll lose everyone. Transformed into SSJ right then and there, repelled the blast and well, you know the rest lol. One of my favourite episodes in all of DBZ! :D | ||
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Slaughter
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Kale is clearly a Broly homage so maybe her SSJ being different highlights that difference, she is THE LEGEND while Cabba/Caulifa just attained the lesser version that everyone else has access to since they are all Sayians therefore they have a little of that essence in them. I think I heard people on the show describe it as a mutation so something with genetics? Would make more sense then if there is a super rare mutation that is the legendary SSJ but all sayians still share enough of that genetic material to tap into it, just not the same level. | ||
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maze.
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On June 04 2017 12:56 blade55555 wrote: Funny thing is that the earths dragon balls can't revive Freeza since he's been wished back already. I wonder if he'll actually get wished back after the tournament or if he'll go back to his hell. Would setup for another arc, although I have a feeling Freeza might be eliminated by Zeno or something. Old earth dragonballs could only revive a person once. After Cell Saga, Earth got new dragonballs that allow for 2 wishes and can resurrect a person multiple times. | ||
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Mohdoo
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On June 04 2017 12:56 blade55555 wrote: Funny thing is that the earths dragon balls can't revive Freeza since he's been wished back already. I wonder if he'll actually get wished back after the tournament or if he'll go back to his hell. Would setup for another arc, although I have a feeling Freeza might be eliminated by Zeno or something. I thought the re-made dragon balls don't have this limitation? | ||
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LegalLord
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MoonfireSpam
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Ernaine
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So Freeze was tortured in hell for a long time. And after 24 hours, he is going back. In the mean time, he seems eager to want to kill people. Why would Freeza want to go back to hell in 24 hours? What is his motivation for preventing universe 7 from being erased? Especially if revenge is what he wants. He is in the perfect position to make sure Goku and his friends lose, and he doesn't need to go back to hell. Seems the readers want to promote the notion that Freeza will be resurrected by the dragon balls and that Goku might want that, because he wants to fight strong guys. | ||
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blade55555
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On June 04 2017 23:29 Mohdoo wrote: I thought the re-made dragon balls don't have this limitation? They couldn't revive Goku after Cell killed him stating that he's been brought back before. Far as I know it hasn't changed, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they just ignore that rule or shoehorn a "oh yeah you can now revive multiple times". On June 05 2017 02:36 Ernaine wrote: I don't get the current line, and I am not sure if that is intentional on part of the writers. So Freeze was tortured in hell for a long time. And after 24 hours, he is going back. In the mean time, he seems eager to want to kill people. Why would Freeza want to go back to hell in 24 hours? What is his motivation for preventing universe 7 from being erased? Especially if revenge is what he wants. He is in the perfect position to make sure Goku and his friends lose, and he doesn't need to go back to hell. Seems the readers want to promote the notion that Freeza will be resurrected by the dragon balls and that Goku might want that, because he wants to fight strong guys. He doesn't have to go back after 24 hours. Goku promised he would revive him with the earths dragon balls (assuming they don't have the revive limitation). | ||
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BigFan
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On June 05 2017 02:13 MoonfireSpam wrote: Are we looking at Ressurection of the Ressurection of Frieza after Gokus promise? I dunno if just being older makes DBZS feel different to DBZ. I think DBS is definitely different but I also partially contribute some of what I feel towards the show to age as well. | ||
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LegalLord
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Mohdoo
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On June 05 2017 06:00 LegalLord wrote: You know, for a "ridiculous request" being revived sure is pedestrian. And Goku wasn't particularly disinclined to cooperate. Saiyan problems I guess. To Goku, it's an amazing deal since he would likely revive frieza willingly for the sake of fighting him again | ||
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Slaughter
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Elentos
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On June 05 2017 06:40 LegalLord wrote: Also, I doubt Whis is telling the truth about the "stronger than GoD guy." Whis is not the type not to know stuff, and that power level seems like a stretch anyways. I was thinking it's someone from a universe that's not participating. Since we're almost set on Jiren being the strongest person in the tournament other than Goku, and Whis didn't react to the name at all at the exhibition match. | ||
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