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On April 23 2012 21:46 valheru wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 21:19 Etrnity wrote:On April 23 2012 15:32 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:On April 23 2012 15:25 darkmetal505 wrote:On April 23 2012 13:39 iTzSnypah wrote:
After watching the first 3 episodes there are somethings I don't like:
-Korra is a Waterbender however heavily favors Earthbending. Aang favored Airbending even after learning all 4 elements.
What? She has shown no specific affinity toward any bending discipline. if anything her most significant contributions have been using waterbending; she does it in the probending matches and she bended steam to help bolin escape The show establishes very quickly that she is an Earthbender by nature (the way the avatars are reborn Air -> Earth -> Water -> Fire...think about the order in the last series). The reason we see so much waterbending is because the person that she replaced in the probending matches was a water bender. Keeping to the rules she has to water bend in those matches. Hope this helps :D That's not the series it's air -> water -> earth -> fire as in autumn -> winter -> spring -> summer http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Avatar Well that's the cycle of re-incarnation into different tribes not necessarily the cycle of elemental affinity. I agree she does indeed seem to be better suited to earth/fire rather than water I guess they wanted to have a protagonist of a different sort since water/air have similar personality types. EDIT: Maybe because of Aang's ice-cube time it screwed up the elemental avatar cycle with affinity and tribes?
She was born a water bender but she has the personality traits of an earth bender (strong-willed, hot-tempered).
This is why air bending is so difficult for her to master, since it is the opposite of earth. ("stand strong and fight" against "juke and dodge")
This is actually explained in the first two episodes.
The reason Aang had trouble with firebending wasn't be cause he's an airbender, it's because he was raised by the air nomads to avoid conflict and find compromises.
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On April 23 2012 23:41 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 21:46 valheru wrote:On April 23 2012 21:19 Etrnity wrote:On April 23 2012 15:32 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:On April 23 2012 15:25 darkmetal505 wrote:On April 23 2012 13:39 iTzSnypah wrote:
After watching the first 3 episodes there are somethings I don't like:
-Korra is a Waterbender however heavily favors Earthbending. Aang favored Airbending even after learning all 4 elements.
What? She has shown no specific affinity toward any bending discipline. if anything her most significant contributions have been using waterbending; she does it in the probending matches and she bended steam to help bolin escape The show establishes very quickly that she is an Earthbender by nature (the way the avatars are reborn Air -> Earth -> Water -> Fire...think about the order in the last series). The reason we see so much waterbending is because the person that she replaced in the probending matches was a water bender. Keeping to the rules she has to water bend in those matches. Hope this helps :D That's not the series it's air -> water -> earth -> fire as in autumn -> winter -> spring -> summer http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Avatar Well that's the cycle of re-incarnation into different tribes not necessarily the cycle of elemental affinity. I agree she does indeed seem to be better suited to earth/fire rather than water I guess they wanted to have a protagonist of a different sort since water/air have similar personality types. EDIT: Maybe because of Aang's ice-cube time it screwed up the elemental avatar cycle with affinity and tribes? She was born a water bender but she has the personality traits of an earth bender (strong-willed, hot-tempered). This is why air bending is so difficult for her to master, since it is the opposite of earth. ("stand strong and fight" against "juke and dodge") This is actually explained in the first two episodes. The reason Aang had trouble with firebending wasn't be cause he's an airbender, it's because he was raised by the air nomads to avoid conflict and find compromises.
Aang didn't have trouble firebending, he actually managed to be able to bend it even before he even mastered waterbending or even learned earthbending.
He had trouble Earthbending, and as u said it was because he wanted to avoid conflict and find compromises while earthbending was trying to take things straight on.
Personally I always felt that Korra has trouble with airbending instead of the usual firebending(due to her being from the water tribe was because she was raised as the avatar not as a waterbender and of course of her personality as well
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On April 23 2012 23:41 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 21:46 valheru wrote:On April 23 2012 21:19 Etrnity wrote:On April 23 2012 15:32 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:On April 23 2012 15:25 darkmetal505 wrote:On April 23 2012 13:39 iTzSnypah wrote:
After watching the first 3 episodes there are somethings I don't like:
-Korra is a Waterbender however heavily favors Earthbending. Aang favored Airbending even after learning all 4 elements.
What? She has shown no specific affinity toward any bending discipline. if anything her most significant contributions have been using waterbending; she does it in the probending matches and she bended steam to help bolin escape The show establishes very quickly that she is an Earthbender by nature (the way the avatars are reborn Air -> Earth -> Water -> Fire...think about the order in the last series). The reason we see so much waterbending is because the person that she replaced in the probending matches was a water bender. Keeping to the rules she has to water bend in those matches. Hope this helps :D That's not the series it's air -> water -> earth -> fire as in autumn -> winter -> spring -> summer http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Avatar Well that's the cycle of re-incarnation into different tribes not necessarily the cycle of elemental affinity. I agree she does indeed seem to be better suited to earth/fire rather than water I guess they wanted to have a protagonist of a different sort since water/air have similar personality types. EDIT: Maybe because of Aang's ice-cube time it screwed up the elemental avatar cycle with affinity and tribes? She was born a water bender but she has the personality traits of an earth bender (strong-willed, hot-tempered). This is why air bending is so difficult for her to master, since it is the opposite of earth. ("stand strong and fight" against "juke and dodge") This is actually explained in the first two episodes. The reason Aang had trouble with firebending wasn't be cause he's an airbender, it's because he was raised by the air nomads to avoid conflict and find compromises.
Personally I did think it was weird that Korra is a Water Tribe girl that has the personality Earth Bender, but them explaining its the opposite of the personality rather then the birth element, I find it a little sketchy, but I like the change/explanation, meaning that just because you are born of one tribe doesnt necessarily mean you are a pure of that tribe. Kind of like Jeong Jeong and calling fire bending a curse type thing.
Aang really had no trouble at all tbh with Fire Bending. When he met Jeong Jeong he easily made a fireball, he just vowed to never do it again because he didnt like it after hurting Katara. Then when he was learning from Zuko, it was mostly Zuko who couldnt fire bend lol. He didnt quite master it like he did Water, but with Earth Bending, I dont think he moved a rock until the end of that one episode.
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On April 24 2012 00:48 Chained wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 23:41 Clarity_nl wrote:On April 23 2012 21:46 valheru wrote:On April 23 2012 21:19 Etrnity wrote:On April 23 2012 15:32 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:On April 23 2012 15:25 darkmetal505 wrote:On April 23 2012 13:39 iTzSnypah wrote:
After watching the first 3 episodes there are somethings I don't like:
-Korra is a Waterbender however heavily favors Earthbending. Aang favored Airbending even after learning all 4 elements.
What? She has shown no specific affinity toward any bending discipline. if anything her most significant contributions have been using waterbending; she does it in the probending matches and she bended steam to help bolin escape The show establishes very quickly that she is an Earthbender by nature (the way the avatars are reborn Air -> Earth -> Water -> Fire...think about the order in the last series). The reason we see so much waterbending is because the person that she replaced in the probending matches was a water bender. Keeping to the rules she has to water bend in those matches. Hope this helps :D That's not the series it's air -> water -> earth -> fire as in autumn -> winter -> spring -> summer http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Avatar Well that's the cycle of re-incarnation into different tribes not necessarily the cycle of elemental affinity. I agree she does indeed seem to be better suited to earth/fire rather than water I guess they wanted to have a protagonist of a different sort since water/air have similar personality types. EDIT: Maybe because of Aang's ice-cube time it screwed up the elemental avatar cycle with affinity and tribes? She was born a water bender but she has the personality traits of an earth bender (strong-willed, hot-tempered). This is why air bending is so difficult for her to master, since it is the opposite of earth. ("stand strong and fight" against "juke and dodge") This is actually explained in the first two episodes. The reason Aang had trouble with firebending wasn't be cause he's an airbender, it's because he was raised by the air nomads to avoid conflict and find compromises. Personally I did think it was weird that Korra is a Water Tribe girl that has the personality Earth Bender, but them explaining its the opposite of the personality rather then the birth element, I find it a little sketchy, but I like the change/explanation, meaning that just because you are born of one tribe doesnt necessarily mean you are a pure of that tribe. Kind of like Jeong Jeong and calling fire bending a curse type thing. Aang really had no trouble at all tbh with Fire Bending. When he met Jeong Jeong he easily made a fireball, he just vowed to never do it again because he didnt like it after hurting Katara. Then when he was learning from Zuko, it was mostly Zuko who couldnt fire bend lol. He didnt quite master it like he did Water, but with Earth Bending, I dont think he moved a rock until the end of that one episode.
I think the reason Korra has the personality she has is because making a protagonist with the typical water tribe personality would be pretty boring. She's hot headed and aggressive, which gives way to easy character development. A more passive peaceful water personality would be alot harder to have and still be interesting.
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Korra's the way she is because the creators wanted the exact opposite of Aang. They didn't want much retreading.
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On April 23 2012 21:46 valheru wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 21:19 Etrnity wrote:On April 23 2012 15:32 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:On April 23 2012 15:25 darkmetal505 wrote:On April 23 2012 13:39 iTzSnypah wrote:
After watching the first 3 episodes there are somethings I don't like:
-Korra is a Waterbender however heavily favors Earthbending. Aang favored Airbending even after learning all 4 elements.
What? She has shown no specific affinity toward any bending discipline. if anything her most significant contributions have been using waterbending; she does it in the probending matches and she bended steam to help bolin escape The show establishes very quickly that she is an Earthbender by nature (the way the avatars are reborn Air -> Earth -> Water -> Fire...think about the order in the last series). The reason we see so much waterbending is because the person that she replaced in the probending matches was a water bender. Keeping to the rules she has to water bend in those matches. Hope this helps :D That's not the series it's air -> water -> earth -> fire as in autumn -> winter -> spring -> summer http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Avatar Well that's the cycle of re-incarnation into different tribes not necessarily the cycle of elemental affinity. I agree she does indeed seem to be better suited to earth/fire rather than water I guess they wanted to have a protagonist of a different sort since water/air have similar personality types. EDIT: Maybe because of Aang's ice-cube time it screwed up the elemental avatar cycle with affinity and tribes?
True enough, my apologies, seems that my memory is failing me.
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On April 24 2012 00:42 LXenJin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 23:41 Clarity_nl wrote:On April 23 2012 21:46 valheru wrote:On April 23 2012 21:19 Etrnity wrote:On April 23 2012 15:32 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:On April 23 2012 15:25 darkmetal505 wrote:On April 23 2012 13:39 iTzSnypah wrote:
After watching the first 3 episodes there are somethings I don't like:
-Korra is a Waterbender however heavily favors Earthbending. Aang favored Airbending even after learning all 4 elements.
What? She has shown no specific affinity toward any bending discipline. if anything her most significant contributions have been using waterbending; she does it in the probending matches and she bended steam to help bolin escape The show establishes very quickly that she is an Earthbender by nature (the way the avatars are reborn Air -> Earth -> Water -> Fire...think about the order in the last series). The reason we see so much waterbending is because the person that she replaced in the probending matches was a water bender. Keeping to the rules she has to water bend in those matches. Hope this helps :D That's not the series it's air -> water -> earth -> fire as in autumn -> winter -> spring -> summer http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Avatar Well that's the cycle of re-incarnation into different tribes not necessarily the cycle of elemental affinity. I agree she does indeed seem to be better suited to earth/fire rather than water I guess they wanted to have a protagonist of a different sort since water/air have similar personality types. EDIT: Maybe because of Aang's ice-cube time it screwed up the elemental avatar cycle with affinity and tribes? She was born a water bender but she has the personality traits of an earth bender (strong-willed, hot-tempered). This is why air bending is so difficult for her to master, since it is the opposite of earth. ("stand strong and fight" against "juke and dodge") This is actually explained in the first two episodes. The reason Aang had trouble with firebending wasn't be cause he's an airbender, it's because he was raised by the air nomads to avoid conflict and find compromises. Aang didn't have trouble firebending, he actually managed to be able to bend it even before he even mastered waterbending or even learned earthbending. He had trouble Earthbending, and as u said it was because he wanted to avoid conflict and find compromises while earthbending was trying to take things straight on. Personally I always felt that Korra has trouble with airbending instead of the usual firebending(due to her being from the water tribe was because she was raised as the avatar not as a waterbender and of course of her personality as well
My mistake, yes. I meant earthbending
I feel that's a nice way of looking at it. She was raised as the avatar so she became bold and confrontational, which is the opposite of airbending. 
edit: love this show, so glad it's being made, wish I found out later though since now I'm waiting a week for every episode.
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On April 24 2012 02:45 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 00:42 LXenJin wrote:On April 23 2012 23:41 Clarity_nl wrote:On April 23 2012 21:46 valheru wrote:On April 23 2012 21:19 Etrnity wrote:On April 23 2012 15:32 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:On April 23 2012 15:25 darkmetal505 wrote:On April 23 2012 13:39 iTzSnypah wrote:
After watching the first 3 episodes there are somethings I don't like:
-Korra is a Waterbender however heavily favors Earthbending. Aang favored Airbending even after learning all 4 elements.
What? She has shown no specific affinity toward any bending discipline. if anything her most significant contributions have been using waterbending; she does it in the probending matches and she bended steam to help bolin escape The show establishes very quickly that she is an Earthbender by nature (the way the avatars are reborn Air -> Earth -> Water -> Fire...think about the order in the last series). The reason we see so much waterbending is because the person that she replaced in the probending matches was a water bender. Keeping to the rules she has to water bend in those matches. Hope this helps :D That's not the series it's air -> water -> earth -> fire as in autumn -> winter -> spring -> summer http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Avatar Well that's the cycle of re-incarnation into different tribes not necessarily the cycle of elemental affinity. I agree she does indeed seem to be better suited to earth/fire rather than water I guess they wanted to have a protagonist of a different sort since water/air have similar personality types. EDIT: Maybe because of Aang's ice-cube time it screwed up the elemental avatar cycle with affinity and tribes? She was born a water bender but she has the personality traits of an earth bender (strong-willed, hot-tempered). This is why air bending is so difficult for her to master, since it is the opposite of earth. ("stand strong and fight" against "juke and dodge") This is actually explained in the first two episodes. The reason Aang had trouble with firebending wasn't be cause he's an airbender, it's because he was raised by the air nomads to avoid conflict and find compromises. Aang didn't have trouble firebending, he actually managed to be able to bend it even before he even mastered waterbending or even learned earthbending. He had trouble Earthbending, and as u said it was because he wanted to avoid conflict and find compromises while earthbending was trying to take things straight on. Personally I always felt that Korra has trouble with airbending instead of the usual firebending(due to her being from the water tribe was because she was raised as the avatar not as a waterbender and of course of her personality as well My mistake, yes. I meant earthbending I feel that's a nice way of looking at it. She was raised as the avatar so she became bold and confrontational, which is the opposite of airbending. edit: love this show, so glad it's being made, wish I found out later though since now I'm waiting a week for every episode.
The trouble with fire bending was not in Aang's inability, but that wind amplified fire! This means that Aang couldn't just use Air to defeat the fire lord, but had to possess the other abilities as well. This was the basis for his journey to learn all four in such a short time.
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On April 24 2012 02:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Korra's the way she is because the creators wanted the exact opposite of Aang. They didn't want much retreading.
Pretty much. If you want to explain it, you could say she was practically given her way from birth. She probably had the white lotus/teachers catering to her needs most of the time.
So far her earth bending hasn't shown that she prefers it over the others. It's been more of her opportunity to use it. When she bumped the motorcycle, it was because earth was the easiest way to knock it off course. When she wanted Ikki and Jinora off her back, earth was the easiest way to do it without drawing suspicion from Mako. When he hit the dude's table it was because, well, it was on the ground.
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On April 23 2012 10:44 Black and Proud wrote:
To be honest I'm getting so sick of the: "Let the good guy go. We will deal with him/her later" - plots that happen in every single anime, and then at the end it's like: "I should have killed you when I had the chance!" Ahh, but you didn't dumbass. Same goes for scenes where it's like: "I should kill you immediately in order to end any possibility of someone intervening, but I'll give a sililoque instead until I'm interrupted just before I'm about to kill you and then you end up stabbing me."
You know the city has police, right? Plus potentially who knows how many forces could be interested in engaging the Equalists in the open. (The other Triads, plus *every other bender* assuming Chi blockers are as notorious as Mako's knowledge of them suggests.)
Also I'm curious to see how Chi blockers will fare against rock armor or other bending armor play, since it seems they need to make physical contact to hit chakra.
On April 23 2012 13:39 iTzSnypah wrote:
-Korra's airbending garb. It's outdated considering Aang was the last (old style)airbender and he was 116 at the time of the series. LoK feels modern yet the avatars garb's feel ancient.
Everything airbending should be ancient considering the race and the practice were essentially exterminated during the war. Clothing is a function of culture, and you can't have much of a culture with less than 10 people.
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On April 23 2012 21:46 valheru wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 21:19 Etrnity wrote:On April 23 2012 15:32 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:On April 23 2012 15:25 darkmetal505 wrote:On April 23 2012 13:39 iTzSnypah wrote:
After watching the first 3 episodes there are somethings I don't like:
-Korra is a Waterbender however heavily favors Earthbending. Aang favored Airbending even after learning all 4 elements.
What? She has shown no specific affinity toward any bending discipline. if anything her most significant contributions have been using waterbending; she does it in the probending matches and she bended steam to help bolin escape The show establishes very quickly that she is an Earthbender by nature (the way the avatars are reborn Air -> Earth -> Water -> Fire...think about the order in the last series). The reason we see so much waterbending is because the person that she replaced in the probending matches was a water bender. Keeping to the rules she has to water bend in those matches. Hope this helps :D That's not the series it's air -> water -> earth -> fire as in autumn -> winter -> spring -> summer http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Avatar Well that's the cycle of re-incarnation into different tribes not necessarily the cycle of elemental affinity. I agree she does indeed seem to be better suited to earth/fire rather than water I guess they wanted to have a protagonist of a different sort since water/air have similar personality types. EDIT: Maybe because of Aang's ice-cube time it screwed up the elemental avatar cycle with affinity and tribes?
I recall someone suggesting that elemental affinity is not based on heredity, but spirit. Since all four nations teach their culture and traditions pretty thoroughly, and since each nation only teaches its own element, you will still end up with only Fire Nation citizens being fire-benders, Earth Kingdom citizens being earth-benders, and so on. This kinda makes sense when you consider Ty Lee. Perhaps she had the spirit of an air-bender, and that's why she's so agile, and light on her feet. She would have been an air-bender had she been properly taught bending.*
Now, since the Avatar is capable of bending all four elements, he/she will be best at bending the element most like his or her spirit. Look how much trouble Aang had learning earth-bending. Now look how "fiery" Korra's personality is. Doesn't it make sense that she'd be great at fire-bending?
*Perhaps all non-benders are like that. They have the spirit for one element, but were raised in a different nation?
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Thought I would just add this
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On April 24 2012 02:52 darkmetal505 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 02:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Korra's the way she is because the creators wanted the exact opposite of Aang. They didn't want much retreading. Pretty much. If you want to explain it, you could say she was practically given her way from birth. She probably had the white lotus/teachers catering to her needs most of the time. So far her earth bending hasn't shown that she prefers it over the others. It's been more of her opportunity to use it. When she bumped the motorcycle, it was because earth was the easiest way to knock it off course. When she wanted Ikki and Jinora off her back, earth was the easiest way to do it without drawing suspicion from Mako. When he hit the dude's table it was because, well, it was on the ground.
When she got pressured really hard in the tournament she instinctively earthbended, even when she knew she shouldn't.
Should count? ^^
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On April 23 2012 12:11 TheBatman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 12:08 Ilikestarcraft wrote:On April 23 2012 12:04 Jell wrote:
So, we all know who the masked guy is right? I mean it's pretty obvious... who? I'm guessed it's one of Aangs sons but his backstory in episode 3 wouldn't match with it. I think he also a bender
Aang had 3 kids, a waterbender, a airbender and a non-bender. Seeing as Aang was the only person who knew how to energy-bend it makes sense he taught it to his children, or even only to the non-bender kid.
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ugh i hate waitng for only ONE episode to show up every week. i wish it was two t.t
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On April 24 2012 02:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Korra's the way she is because the creators wanted the exact opposite of Aang. They didn't want much retreading.
I think it's difficult to compare the two so simply because the two characters have completely differing backgrounds and therefore have different internal struggles.
Aang's biggest struggle as the Avatar was the fact that he had unintentionally abandoned both his people and the world, leaving it in desperate turmoil. Add the fact that he was still untrained in the bending of other elements, as well as generally being a young boy who simply wanted to enjoy his childhood, and you had a great character struggle. The tension of the story often came from the idea that Aang was just a boy at heart but had the greatest power imaginable, which he was expected to use to prevent the end of the world. He wasn't sure if he could handle such an enormous responsibility. This lack of confidence translated into doubt and timidness towards his role as the Avatar.
It seems in Korra's case, her main struggle comes from the fact that she wants more than anything to prove herself capable of filling in the shoes of Aang. This contrasts Aang mainly because he was unsure of himself being the Avatar, while Korra has never been more confident. Consider though, she comes from a different time. The world is, supposedly, in a state of order, peace and tranquility; they live in an era in which the Avatar's abilities are less needed (this is emphasized by the existence of the metalbenders). She wants to be a heroine - no, she knows that she is a heroine - but it's as though nobody really needs her help. This strong desire to prove herself translates into reckless behavior.
On another note, I'm looking forward to seeing some Avatar State action from Korra. No glowing arrows on her forehead and hands makes the idea of that moment seem a little less epic to me, but the level of animation we've seen from just the first few episodes makes my mouth water at the idea of the final episodes.
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Korra's struggles? When she was 3 years old she knocked a hole through the wall and started shooting elements at the White Lotus guys. Her personality is rooted specifically in her and has nothing to do with the rest of the backstory so far. Her character is that way purely because Michael and Bryan wanted it that way -- opposite Aang. It's very, very easy to compare them personality wise because their personalities were established before backgrounds and obstacles even mattered.
This show is very deep and interesting but you're reaching way too hard.
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On April 24 2012 03:12 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Korra's struggles? When she was 3 years old she knocked a hole through the wall and started shooting elements at the White Lotus guys. Her personality is rooted specifically in her and has nothing to do with the rest of the backstory so far. Her character is that way purely because Michael and Bryan wanted it that way -- opposite Aang. It's very, very easy to compare them personality wise because their personalities were established before backgrounds and obstacles even mattered.
Yes, her personality is rooted in herself and not on any pretenses, but from a storytelling standpoint, you are incorrect in saying that the writers simply "wanted it that way." The world around Korra is what makes her so interesting. The stark contrast in her personality to the situation she is put into is what makes her interesting to watch at all. They didn't want her to be that way because they thought it would be fun and different. They wanted her to be that way because the world she lives in needed her to be that way for us to care about it.
The same goes for Aang. The plot revolved around a hundred year war in which the world was on the verge of destruction. Aang could have been like Korra, but he wasn't. Not because writers thought "the Avatar should be like this because ladeeda," but because that the most interesting drama would come from someone who didn't know what they were doing and weren't sure of whether they could do it or not.
The characters of any story are shaped around the plot, not the other way around. You can think of it that way, but that leads to less depth in the viewing experience imo.
edit: Reaching "way too hard" into a story is what makes it actually good.
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On April 24 2012 02:48 Etrnity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 02:45 Clarity_nl wrote:On April 24 2012 00:42 LXenJin wrote:On April 23 2012 23:41 Clarity_nl wrote:On April 23 2012 21:46 valheru wrote:On April 23 2012 21:19 Etrnity wrote:On April 23 2012 15:32 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:On April 23 2012 15:25 darkmetal505 wrote:On April 23 2012 13:39 iTzSnypah wrote:
After watching the first 3 episodes there are somethings I don't like:
-Korra is a Waterbender however heavily favors Earthbending. Aang favored Airbending even after learning all 4 elements.
What? She has shown no specific affinity toward any bending discipline. if anything her most significant contributions have been using waterbending; she does it in the probending matches and she bended steam to help bolin escape The show establishes very quickly that she is an Earthbender by nature (the way the avatars are reborn Air -> Earth -> Water -> Fire...think about the order in the last series). The reason we see so much waterbending is because the person that she replaced in the probending matches was a water bender. Keeping to the rules she has to water bend in those matches. Hope this helps :D That's not the series it's air -> water -> earth -> fire as in autumn -> winter -> spring -> summer http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Avatar Well that's the cycle of re-incarnation into different tribes not necessarily the cycle of elemental affinity. I agree she does indeed seem to be better suited to earth/fire rather than water I guess they wanted to have a protagonist of a different sort since water/air have similar personality types. EDIT: Maybe because of Aang's ice-cube time it screwed up the elemental avatar cycle with affinity and tribes? She was born a water bender but she has the personality traits of an earth bender (strong-willed, hot-tempered). This is why air bending is so difficult for her to master, since it is the opposite of earth. ("stand strong and fight" against "juke and dodge") This is actually explained in the first two episodes. The reason Aang had trouble with firebending wasn't be cause he's an airbender, it's because he was raised by the air nomads to avoid conflict and find compromises. Aang didn't have trouble firebending, he actually managed to be able to bend it even before he even mastered waterbending or even learned earthbending. He had trouble Earthbending, and as u said it was because he wanted to avoid conflict and find compromises while earthbending was trying to take things straight on. Personally I always felt that Korra has trouble with airbending instead of the usual firebending(due to her being from the water tribe was because she was raised as the avatar not as a waterbender and of course of her personality as well My mistake, yes. I meant earthbending I feel that's a nice way of looking at it. She was raised as the avatar so she became bold and confrontational, which is the opposite of airbending. edit: love this show, so glad it's being made, wish I found out later though since now I'm waiting a week for every episode. The trouble with fire bending was not in Aang's inability, but that wind amplified fire! This means that Aang couldn't just use Air to defeat the fire lord, but had to possess the other abilities as well. This was the basis for his journey to learn all four in such a short time.
This isn't Naruto man where wind makes fire stronger. In Avatar the elements don't beat each other like rock paper scissor.
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On April 24 2012 03:22 megapants wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 03:12 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Korra's struggles? When she was 3 years old she knocked a hole through the wall and started shooting elements at the White Lotus guys. Her personality is rooted specifically in her and has nothing to do with the rest of the backstory so far. Her character is that way purely because Michael and Bryan wanted it that way -- opposite Aang. It's very, very easy to compare them personality wise because their personalities were established before backgrounds and obstacles even mattered. Yes, her personality is rooted in herself and not on any pretenses, but from a storytelling standpoint, you are incorrect in saying that the writers simply "wanted it that way." The world around Korra is what makes her so interesting. The stark contrast in her personality to the situation she is put into is what makes her interesting to watch at all. They didn't want her to be that way because they thought it would be fun and different. They wanted her to be that way because the world she lives in needed her to be that way for us to care about it. The same goes for Aang. The plot revolved around a hundred year war in which the world was on the verge of destruction. Aang could have been like Korra, but he wasn't. Not because writers thought "the Avatar should be like this because ladeeda," but because that the most interesting drama would come from someone who didn't know what they were doing and weren't sure of whether they could do it or not. The characters of any story are shaped around the plot, not the other way around. You can think of it that way, but that leads to less depth in the viewing experience imo. edit: Reaching "way too hard" into a story is what makes it actually good.
Do you follow Michael and Bryan's interviews?
They're very good at world building but the concept of Korra's personality and approach to things came about before the plot. The creators have been asked this dozens of times and always respond with "we wanted an avatar who was very different from Aang." That's all the reason they need -- they're storytellers and they wanted to tell a different story, that's not as simple as "ladeeda" as you put it.
And no, a story can be character driven instead of plot driven. Though I'd say right now it's too early to determine whether in TLoK the characters drive the plot or the plot drives the characters. In the first series it was obviously the latter as everything was pushed on by the invisible threat of war and imminent destruction instead of the character's own goals. I get the feeling Korra's gonna be the same. Nothing wrong with it, though, just stating a point.
There's nothing wrong with reaching into a show to pick out personal meaning, but it's demonstrably false that Korra's personality has been dictated by the show's plot -- her actions in regard to the plot obviously have, but her original premise is not. That's the entire point of the scene where they find her, to establish her, beyond a shadow of a doubt as a rash and bullheaded character.
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