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On January 13 2012 17:37 dAPhREAk wrote:
what the hell was the point of that stupid little hut village....
That was just their cover to make themselves all look like scavengers living it rough. Along with with fake beards and the dirty clothes it made them look a lot less threatening.
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dezman and jack met when he was in australia but ended in the hatch anyways, how long was he there for?
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Does Guyliner really just have thick lashes?
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On January 13 2012 17:38 nerfherder182 wrote:
dezman and jack met when he was in australia but ended in the hatch anyways, how long was he there for?
Desmond met jack years before the plane crash(at the stadium doing some running), while he was doing surgery on his soon to be wife. Soon after that Desmond went on a yacht race around the world and ended up on the island.
They never met in Australia.
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On January 13 2012 17:36 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 17:34 loladin wrote:On January 13 2012 17:31 paralleluniverse wrote:On January 13 2012 17:25 jeremysaint wrote:
lost was not a good show. it started a good one, and intriguing but like battle star galactica there were no answers because the show was not actually planned. they were pulling it out of thier asses as they went along and it showed. a wheel that causes time travel?!? seriously? they just kept adding crazy things to keep the ratings up with no idea how they were going to tie any of it all together. On January 13 2012 17:26 Tal wrote:
Even if the questions eventually got answered, the main problem is the show felt like the writers were making it up as they went along, with very little explained after two whole seasons. Started well though. This is the sort of stuff this thread is meant to dispel. If you have any specific questions I'm happy to answer them. But your answer that "the actor outgrew his role" isn't really dispelling anything though? Couldn't they have planned that out? "One season is 30 days on the island... lets see should we cast a pre-teen kid in this and just hope he stops growing?" If you want to take all the real life logistics of making a TV show out of it, Walt's story arc was essentially ended when he left the Island with his dad. You might not like the story, or you think it could have been handled differently, but it's not a a gaping plot hole or even a question. There was closure on that story.
There was closure on where he was, not who he was or why he was magic. If they didn't want to tell the story of the magic boy then why did they write him into it? That they moved him out of the show and stopped any more awkward questions being asked doesn't change the fact that they never answered the awkward questions they started in the first place, just swept them under the rug.
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On January 13 2012 17:36 exog wrote:
Where is the island?
What is the fog-monster?
What happened when they failed to enter the code in time?
1. The Island was somewhere in the South Pacific before it was moved with the Frozen Wheel, it's current location is unknown. It's still likely somewhere in the Pacific Ocean as the Ajira Flight that crashed onto it flew over the Pacific Ocean. Where exactly the Island is, is not important to the story.
2. The Smoke Monster is the Man in Black, Jacob's Brother.
3. The exotic matter under the Swan would be violently and abruptly released. This is the same exotic matter that is under the Orchid, it is the same as the Light at the Heart of the Island and it's responsible for the seemingly magical properties of the Island, in particular, it is what allows time travel.
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Too many questions, I'm slowly working through them, but it may take some time.
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On January 13 2012 17:37 dAPhREAk wrote:
what the hell was the point of that stupid little hut village....
What hut village?
Are you talking about Dharmaville?
That's where the DHARMA Initiative lived when they came to the Island in the 70s, they built it.
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On January 13 2012 17:45 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 17:37 dAPhREAk wrote:
what the hell was the point of that stupid little hut village.... What hut village? Are you talking about Dharmaville? That's where the DHARMA Initiative lived when they came to the Island in the 70s, they built it.
He means the hut village that at the end of season 2 jack, saiyeed etc plan to attack based on michaels intel, which it was just a fake village to make them look like they are scavengers.
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On January 13 2012 17:41 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 17:36 paralleluniverse wrote:On January 13 2012 17:34 loladin wrote:On January 13 2012 17:31 paralleluniverse wrote:On January 13 2012 17:25 jeremysaint wrote:
lost was not a good show. it started a good one, and intriguing but like battle star galactica there were no answers because the show was not actually planned. they were pulling it out of thier asses as they went along and it showed. a wheel that causes time travel?!? seriously? they just kept adding crazy things to keep the ratings up with no idea how they were going to tie any of it all together. On January 13 2012 17:26 Tal wrote:
Even if the questions eventually got answered, the main problem is the show felt like the writers were making it up as they went along, with very little explained after two whole seasons. Started well though. This is the sort of stuff this thread is meant to dispel. If you have any specific questions I'm happy to answer them. But your answer that "the actor outgrew his role" isn't really dispelling anything though? Couldn't they have planned that out? "One season is 30 days on the island... lets see should we cast a pre-teen kid in this and just hope he stops growing?" If you want to take all the real life logistics of making a TV show out of it, Walt's story arc was essentially ended when he left the Island with his dad. You might not like the story, or you think it could have been handled differently, but it's not a a gaping plot hole or even a question. There was closure on that story. There was closure on where he was, not who he was or why he was magic. If they didn't want to tell the story of the magic boy then why did they write him into it? That they moved him out of the show and stopped any more awkward questions being asked doesn't change the fact that they never answered the awkward questions they started in the first place, just swept them under the rug.
The OP seems very defensive of Lost as he's probably pretty much a fanboy if he knows everything inside out.
Imo it's not that they didn't explain all the stuff in Lost. It's more about the series turning into a clusterfuck with all the storylines jumbling together then the explanation for everything turns out to be pretty bland and boring. The first seasons built up alot of hype that, i feel, the directors couldn't really keep up with.
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On January 13 2012 17:38 nerfherder182 wrote:
dezman and jack met when he was in australia but ended in the hatch anyways, how long was he there for?
Desmond spend something like 5+ years on the Island, maybe more. It was mentioned I believe, although I don't recall. Feel free to try and dig it up from Lostpedia if it's there.
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why is walt on the island at the end of the series?
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On January 13 2012 17:41 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 17:36 paralleluniverse wrote:On January 13 2012 17:34 loladin wrote:On January 13 2012 17:31 paralleluniverse wrote:On January 13 2012 17:25 jeremysaint wrote:
lost was not a good show. it started a good one, and intriguing but like battle star galactica there were no answers because the show was not actually planned. they were pulling it out of thier asses as they went along and it showed. a wheel that causes time travel?!? seriously? they just kept adding crazy things to keep the ratings up with no idea how they were going to tie any of it all together. On January 13 2012 17:26 Tal wrote:
Even if the questions eventually got answered, the main problem is the show felt like the writers were making it up as they went along, with very little explained after two whole seasons. Started well though. This is the sort of stuff this thread is meant to dispel. If you have any specific questions I'm happy to answer them. But your answer that "the actor outgrew his role" isn't really dispelling anything though? Couldn't they have planned that out? "One season is 30 days on the island... lets see should we cast a pre-teen kid in this and just hope he stops growing?" If you want to take all the real life logistics of making a TV show out of it, Walt's story arc was essentially ended when he left the Island with his dad. You might not like the story, or you think it could have been handled differently, but it's not a a gaping plot hole or even a question. There was closure on that story. There was closure on where he was, not who he was or why he was magic. If they didn't want to tell the story of the magic boy then why did they write him into it? That they moved him out of the show and stopped any more awkward questions being asked doesn't change the fact that they never answered the awkward questions they started in the first place, just swept them under the rug.
Some people have certain powers. Jacob can grant people immortality, Miles can read dead bodies, Hurley can converse with dead people, and Walt can kill birds with his mind.
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what is the exact ending of the series ? They all gather and what ?
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On January 13 2012 17:52 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 17:41 KwarK wrote:On January 13 2012 17:36 paralleluniverse wrote:On January 13 2012 17:34 loladin wrote:On January 13 2012 17:31 paralleluniverse wrote:On January 13 2012 17:25 jeremysaint wrote:
lost was not a good show. it started a good one, and intriguing but like battle star galactica there were no answers because the show was not actually planned. they were pulling it out of thier asses as they went along and it showed. a wheel that causes time travel?!? seriously? they just kept adding crazy things to keep the ratings up with no idea how they were going to tie any of it all together. On January 13 2012 17:26 Tal wrote:
Even if the questions eventually got answered, the main problem is the show felt like the writers were making it up as they went along, with very little explained after two whole seasons. Started well though. This is the sort of stuff this thread is meant to dispel. If you have any specific questions I'm happy to answer them. But your answer that "the actor outgrew his role" isn't really dispelling anything though? Couldn't they have planned that out? "One season is 30 days on the island... lets see should we cast a pre-teen kid in this and just hope he stops growing?" If you want to take all the real life logistics of making a TV show out of it, Walt's story arc was essentially ended when he left the Island with his dad. You might not like the story, or you think it could have been handled differently, but it's not a a gaping plot hole or even a question. There was closure on that story. There was closure on where he was, not who he was or why he was magic. If they didn't want to tell the story of the magic boy then why did they write him into it? That they moved him out of the show and stopped any more awkward questions being asked doesn't change the fact that they never answered the awkward questions they started in the first place, just swept them under the rug. Some people have certain powers. Jacob can grant people immortality, Miles can read dead bodies, Hurley can converse with dead people, and Walt can kill birds with his mind.
As i said, the bird thing as you mentioned wasn't all he did that was wierd.
On January 13 2012 17:34 Hammer442 wrote:
He also made comments on the island such as to Locke "Don't open it john" referring to the hatch to further mistify his character yet as KwarK says, they never followed up on it after the others took him away. They did show him off the island as a normal kid though.
I have watched the series more than once and it is definitely a plot hole that they didn't care to continue with.
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On January 13 2012 17:48 karpo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 17:41 KwarK wrote:On January 13 2012 17:36 paralleluniverse wrote:On January 13 2012 17:34 loladin wrote:On January 13 2012 17:31 paralleluniverse wrote:On January 13 2012 17:25 jeremysaint wrote:
lost was not a good show. it started a good one, and intriguing but like battle star galactica there were no answers because the show was not actually planned. they were pulling it out of thier asses as they went along and it showed. a wheel that causes time travel?!? seriously? they just kept adding crazy things to keep the ratings up with no idea how they were going to tie any of it all together. On January 13 2012 17:26 Tal wrote:
Even if the questions eventually got answered, the main problem is the show felt like the writers were making it up as they went along, with very little explained after two whole seasons. Started well though. This is the sort of stuff this thread is meant to dispel. If you have any specific questions I'm happy to answer them. But your answer that "the actor outgrew his role" isn't really dispelling anything though? Couldn't they have planned that out? "One season is 30 days on the island... lets see should we cast a pre-teen kid in this and just hope he stops growing?" If you want to take all the real life logistics of making a TV show out of it, Walt's story arc was essentially ended when he left the Island with his dad. You might not like the story, or you think it could have been handled differently, but it's not a a gaping plot hole or even a question. There was closure on that story. There was closure on where he was, not who he was or why he was magic. If they didn't want to tell the story of the magic boy then why did they write him into it? That they moved him out of the show and stopped any more awkward questions being asked doesn't change the fact that they never answered the awkward questions they started in the first place, just swept them under the rug. The OP seems very defensive of Lost as he's probably pretty much a fanboy if he knows everything inside out. Imo it's not that they didn't explain all the stuff in Lost. It's more about the series turning into a clusterfuck with all the storylines jumbling together then the explanation for everything turns out to be pretty bland and boring. The first seasons built up alot of hype that, i feel, the directors couldn't really keep up with.
I think it's more the fact that people say the writers didn't answer anything, while by the end of the series, I personally felt I understood the entire mythology of the series very well.
I would suspect that most of the feelings of not getting answers comes from casual viewers who haven't watched every episode.
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I think the writers had some idea for the whole story arc when they made season 1, but after it became a big hit and tens of thousands of people started throwing random guesses on the internet, their initial idea was stumbled upon quickly. Their ego didnt let them admit one of the guesses was right and thats why they felt the need to change the story to something that no one can guess, which incidentally meant it had to be nonsensical and deeply unsatisfying.
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On January 13 2012 17:55 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 17:48 karpo wrote:On January 13 2012 17:41 KwarK wrote:On January 13 2012 17:36 paralleluniverse wrote:On January 13 2012 17:34 loladin wrote:On January 13 2012 17:31 paralleluniverse wrote:On January 13 2012 17:25 jeremysaint wrote:
lost was not a good show. it started a good one, and intriguing but like battle star galactica there were no answers because the show was not actually planned. they were pulling it out of thier asses as they went along and it showed. a wheel that causes time travel?!? seriously? they just kept adding crazy things to keep the ratings up with no idea how they were going to tie any of it all together. On January 13 2012 17:26 Tal wrote:
Even if the questions eventually got answered, the main problem is the show felt like the writers were making it up as they went along, with very little explained after two whole seasons. Started well though. This is the sort of stuff this thread is meant to dispel. If you have any specific questions I'm happy to answer them. But your answer that "the actor outgrew his role" isn't really dispelling anything though? Couldn't they have planned that out? "One season is 30 days on the island... lets see should we cast a pre-teen kid in this and just hope he stops growing?" If you want to take all the real life logistics of making a TV show out of it, Walt's story arc was essentially ended when he left the Island with his dad. You might not like the story, or you think it could have been handled differently, but it's not a a gaping plot hole or even a question. There was closure on that story. There was closure on where he was, not who he was or why he was magic. If they didn't want to tell the story of the magic boy then why did they write him into it? That they moved him out of the show and stopped any more awkward questions being asked doesn't change the fact that they never answered the awkward questions they started in the first place, just swept them under the rug. The OP seems very defensive of Lost as he's probably pretty much a fanboy if he knows everything inside out. Imo it's not that they didn't explain all the stuff in Lost. It's more about the series turning into a clusterfuck with all the storylines jumbling together then the explanation for everything turns out to be pretty bland and boring. The first seasons built up alot of hype that, i feel, the directors couldn't really keep up with. I think it's more the fact that people say the writers didn't answer anything, while by the end of the series, I personally felt I understood the entire mythology of the series very well. I would suspect most of the that feeling of not getting answer came from casual viewer who haven't watch every episode.
Yet you dismiss the Walt thing people have brought up as just "They wrote him of", "he just killed birds" when in fact he looked to be an important part of the series then they just dropped it midway. It just seems a bit like fanboy defense to me. 
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On January 13 2012 17:51 naux wrote:
why is walt on the island at the end of the series?
Are you speaking of the epilogue, "The New Man in Charge"? If so, it's because Hurley, the new protector of the Island has a job for him.
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On January 13 2012 17:55 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 17:48 karpo wrote:On January 13 2012 17:41 KwarK wrote:On January 13 2012 17:36 paralleluniverse wrote:On January 13 2012 17:34 loladin wrote:On January 13 2012 17:31 paralleluniverse wrote:On January 13 2012 17:25 jeremysaint wrote:
lost was not a good show. it started a good one, and intriguing but like battle star galactica there were no answers because the show was not actually planned. they were pulling it out of thier asses as they went along and it showed. a wheel that causes time travel?!? seriously? they just kept adding crazy things to keep the ratings up with no idea how they were going to tie any of it all together. On January 13 2012 17:26 Tal wrote:
Even if the questions eventually got answered, the main problem is the show felt like the writers were making it up as they went along, with very little explained after two whole seasons. Started well though. This is the sort of stuff this thread is meant to dispel. If you have any specific questions I'm happy to answer them. But your answer that "the actor outgrew his role" isn't really dispelling anything though? Couldn't they have planned that out? "One season is 30 days on the island... lets see should we cast a pre-teen kid in this and just hope he stops growing?" If you want to take all the real life logistics of making a TV show out of it, Walt's story arc was essentially ended when he left the Island with his dad. You might not like the story, or you think it could have been handled differently, but it's not a a gaping plot hole or even a question. There was closure on that story. There was closure on where he was, not who he was or why he was magic. If they didn't want to tell the story of the magic boy then why did they write him into it? That they moved him out of the show and stopped any more awkward questions being asked doesn't change the fact that they never answered the awkward questions they started in the first place, just swept them under the rug. The OP seems very defensive of Lost as he's probably pretty much a fanboy if he knows everything inside out. Imo it's not that they didn't explain all the stuff in Lost. It's more about the series turning into a clusterfuck with all the storylines jumbling together then the explanation for everything turns out to be pretty bland and boring. The first seasons built up alot of hype that, i feel, the directors couldn't really keep up with. I think it's more the fact that people say the writers didn't answer anything, while by the end of the series, I personally felt I understood the entire mythology of the series very well. I would suspect most of the that feeling of not getting answer came from casual viewer who haven't watch every episode.
Some people can do some stuff doesn't really answer the question so much as describe it. Imagine if I were describing my day and between what I had for breakfast and saying hi to my co-workers I said "so I flew my car to work", you'd have some questions. If I then said "stop asking about the car, I parked it and got on with the day" you'd probably feel that didn't adequately explain the flying car thing. If you pressed me for an answer and I said "the car flies" then while that would explain how I flew the car to work it still wouldn't clarify much. Now imagine the entire thing was fictional and that how I got to work had no relevance to the story at all and I could have just as easily said "I drove my car to work" if I had zero intention of using flying cars in the story or even explaining it.
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