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Aylear
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Salivanth
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On January 18 2013 08:38 Sermokala wrote: Solution make everything you're planning with the prologue the real story finish it and see where you are from there. A short story about the start of the war between NM and celestia sounds like a great story. You are a genius. That idea could definitely work. It could probably be written in such a way that it could stand alone or develop into a more extensive sequel. It would also be EXTREMELY easy to change this story so that the story ends the same way it did it canon, too. So I may just do that, and have it be a behind-the-scenes look on the mental duel between Celestia and NM that went completely unnoticed by the Mane 6 and allowed their adventure to be possible. Either way, with a couple of adjustments, this ought to be a good short story. I am in your debt! On January 18 2013 08:42 Whitewing wrote: I think you might be over-doing it. Just because someone is intelligent and wise doesn't mean they don't make mistakes, or can't be caught off guard. It's not like they both have to be freaking Grand Admiral Thrawn (bonus points to anyone who gets that reference) to be intelligent and wise. Unless that's what you want, in which case, a fan fiction that's basically spy vs. spy or Code Geass set in Equestria with ponies could definitely be fun. I would absolutely ADORE an MLP story where both the protagonists and antagonists are extremely intelligent and are constantly outwitting each other in Nth-level mind games, but unfortunately, there's just no way in hell I can pull it off properly. The problem is, I don't set OUT to make my characters super-intelligent, I just set out to make them smart enough to not be totally stupid. I don't think "Okay, now what extremely elaborate plan should I execute today?" Instead, my thought process goes something like this. "Well, if NM isn't a complete moron, then she'll ambush Celestia before Celestia knows she's escaped. But if CELESTIA isn't completely stupid, she'll be watching the Mare In The Moon for the moment it disappears, and even if NM used her moon-painting powers to block that info from Celestia, Celestia will contrive some sort of excuse to have an "honor guard" a hundred strong just in case, and she doesn't even need to tell them why, because why the hell WOULDN'T you do that if you were Celestia? And I can't think of a single way that NM can get through a hundred guards (Many of which will be unicorns, because Celestia knows what she's up against) AND Celestia, which means I need to come up with a plan for Celestia that doesn't involve having guards around, and it needs to be smart enough to have a realistic chance of working so that Celestia isn't holding the Idiot Ball when she fails. And then I need to come up with a non-obvious way for NM to realise what Celestia's doing and counter it, because again, there is no story if Celestia just outright wins in the second chapter." It's hard to tell where it all goes wrong. Every step seems so reasonable and necessary, but even writing it down makes it very clear how insane it is. And considering these immortals are over a thousand years old, each, and have had years to prepare for this confrontation (Really, I'm assuming Celestia's plan started the second she met Twilight Sparkle), I find it difficult to imagine that anything I can come up with is too intelligent for them. Even if Celestia and Luna aren't as smart as me, I've been thinking about it for less than a week, and they've had years. So...I don't exactly set out to write ridiculously complicated shit. It just happens as a natural consequence of what the characters are logically capable of if they aren't complete idiots, and which side needs to win. | ||
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On January 18 2013 13:47 Gary Oak wrote: I'm doing both. You're only doing one. | ||
Wikt
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On January 18 2013 13:04 StarDragon wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 17 2013 07:04 Gary Oak wrote: Why in Celestia's horn am I standing next to Twist. On January 17 2013 07:07 Wikt wrote: Because we ship you with her, duh. On January 17 2013 07:22 Gary Oak wrote: I'd rather ship with the Titanic. Done... Watch in HD <3 YES This is the best. | ||
Rawr
Sweden624 Posts
On January 18 2013 13:32 Gary Oak wrote: Time to get diversee to fire back... and to write a certain type of fanfiction that I am becoming famous for starring Fluttershy... Can't top esssdeeee, not even with divvies help, not gonna happen. | ||
ZealotKiller
Canada161 Posts
On January 19 2013 00:28 Rawr wrote: Can't top esssdeeee, not even with divvies help, not gonna happen. I want to see him try. Can't not be awesome ![]() | ||
Camail
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BioSC
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On January 20 2013 01:05 Camail wrote: 0:00-19:00 9/10 19:01-22:00 1/10 Adds up to 10/10. Sounds like the perfect episode, coming from Camail. Quoted for Truth. As for me... + Show Spoiler + Discord/10 Return of everyone's favorite chaos lord. Not enough Twilight though. Needs more Twilight-Alicorn, IMO. | ||
Lynda
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+ Show Spoiler + pretty good execution until the end and then terrible, not believable ending 8/10 | ||
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KadaverBB
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I really feel like this episode should have been a 2-parter. It was over so quickly for something so important. Hopefully there is more to come with discord, because if it doesn't I will be a little bit disappointed. It was still a nice episode, but could have been a lot better I think. | ||
Gary Oak
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+ Show Spoiler [source] + Read the posts and check the timestamps on them. http://intensedebate.com/people/TeddyAntonio I also verified this screencap. It is not photoshopped. http://i.imgur.com/rbaHS0N.png + Show Spoiler [rant] + I'm really torn on the episode. Of course, it did a lot of things well, and any pacing issues I have can be attributed to time constraints, but conceptually and logically, I did not really like the episode all that much. I disagree with making Discord turn good, or at least antihero. I liked him the way he was. I understand the concept of character growth and development, but in this situation, I feel that it was not handled well. I'd honestly rather just not see Discord again unless he goes back to his old ways. I also do not see how they can maintain continuity and introduce threatening villains at the same time, since all they need to do now is ask Discord to snap his fingers and the problem will be solved. Anyway, I guess I'm mostly rustled by them allowing a fan to inspire a whole episode like this. It's the kind of pandering that, I think, can kill great shows and fandoms. Basically, what I'm saying is, while this isn't a catastrophe by any means, it could be the thin end of the wedge, so to speak. [Edit] Funny way to use my 2000th post, heh. | ||
Solarsail
United Kingdom538 Posts
On January 20 2013 02:48 Gary Oak wrote: Today's episode was written by a 15 year old fan. + Show Spoiler [source] + Read the posts and check the timestamps on them. http://intensedebate.com/people/TeddyAntonio I also verified this screencap. It is not photoshopped. http://i.imgur.com/rbaHS0N.png + Show Spoiler [rant] + I'm really torn on the episode. Of course, it did a lot of things well, and any pacing issues I have can be attributed to time constraints, but conceptually and logically, I did not really like the episode all that much. I disagree with making Discord turn good, or at least antihero. I liked him the way he was. I understand the concept of character growth and development, but in this situation, I feel that it was not handled well. I'd honestly rather just not see Discord again unless he goes back to his old ways. I also do not see how they can maintain continuity and introduce threatening villains at the same time, since all they need to do now is ask Discord to snap his fingers and the problem will be solved. Anyway, I guess I'm mostly rustled by them allowing a fan to inspire a whole episode like this. It's the kind of pandering that, I think, can kill great shows and fandoms. Basically, what I'm saying is, while this isn't a catastrophe by any means, it could be the thin end of the wedge, so to speak. [Edit] Funny way to use my 2000th post, heh. Further evidence: + Show Spoiler + "remember that the old episode name (when Meghan reveals it) will sound like the title of one of Lauren Faust's old shows." + Show Spoiler + @MMeghanMcCarthy #MLPSeason3 factoid: Today's episode was originally called "Fluttershy's Home for Reformed Draconequi" So it had to be someone involved in the production. | ||
PengWin_SC
Switzerland433 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I'm also quite torn about the latest MLP episode. The entire premise is nonsensical and makes no sense given the canon. Why would Celestia ever want to release Discord from stone? There's no context, she's essentially jeopardizing the safety all of Equestria for no adequately explained reason. Surely something this potentially dire needs context?? The ending makes zero sense with Discord's character. I don't fully agree that Discord should be completely unredeemable, but the way they approached it was simply too easy for my taste. He's been locked in stone for over a thousand years, and he's surely built up a great deal of resentment and other such feelings over that time, ESPECIALLY since he states that he's still sentient despite being encased in stone. That being said, I feel that they did the best they could with the premise, and it ended up being a pretty good episode. Discord was hilarious, and the entire approach to the less than ideal premise was good. I liked the characterization of Fluttershy throughout the episode, especially with her outburst of frustration at the end ("I am NOT your friend!") which was great to show again that even though she's far more patient and accepting, there are limits even to her. I actually thought the episode was really great up until the last minute and a half or so (barring Celestia's lack of reason for releasing him). I felt like Discord's moment of realization was too much of a 180 for me. But even with all of it's pitfalls, I really enjoyed it, and I don't feel that it was a particularly weak episode. I've written this semi-hastily, so I don't expect it to be super perfect and I'm sure there's a better way to phrase some of my thoughts, but I did feel like doing this little write-up. | ||
BioSC
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