On January 20 2013 03:37 BioSC wrote: TL;DR, everyone complains about every episode nowadays for whatever reason.
I was complaining before it was cool.
I don't think this episode is worthy of all the hate (elsewhere). Most of it was good comedy. The last part wasn't world-ending. If MMDW's canon and style had carried on that would have been world-ending.
Myself was a bit disappointed that this episode did not conform to everyone's favourite headcanon (you do know which one am I talking about ). It has trouble with pacing as well, the end was too quick, a two parter would have worked better.
This was the episode we all knew was coming at some point. As far as the execution goes, I'd say it's at the same level as the pilot episodes. It set out to establish something, and achieved it with less finesse than "normal" episodes. Being a two-parter would have helped immensely.
Regardells, I'm still happy they finally made Discord a recurring character. I also liked the increasing amount of water in the background art up until the dam scene, though it could've been used more. So many indoor scenes.
I'm also quite torn about the latest MLP episode. The entire premise is nonsensical and makes no sense given the canon. Why would Celestia ever want to release Discord from stone? There's no context, she's essentially jeopardizing the safety all of Equestria for no adequately explained reason. Surely something this potentially dire needs context?? The ending makes zero sense with Discord's character. I don't fully agree that Discord should be completely unredeemable, but the way they approached it was simply too easy for my taste. He's been locked in stone for over a thousand years, and he's surely built up a great deal of resentment and other such feelings over that time, ESPECIALLY since he states that he's still sentient despite being encased in stone.
That being said, I feel that they did the best they could with the premise, and it ended up being a pretty good episode. Discord was hilarious, and the entire approach to the less than ideal premise was good. I liked the characterization of Fluttershy throughout the episode, especially with her outburst of frustration at the end ("I am NOT your friend!") which was great to show again that even though she's far more patient and accepting, there are limits even to her. I actually thought the episode was really great up until the last minute and a half or so (barring Celestia's lack of reason for releasing him). I felt like Discord's moment of realization was too much of a 180 for me. But even with all of it's pitfalls, I really enjoyed it, and I don't feel that it was a particularly weak episode.
I've written this semi-hastily, so I don't expect it to be super perfect and I'm sure there's a better way to phrase some of my thoughts, but I did feel like doing this little write-up.
I say there is more to this episode than you are looking at.
You people are looking at the past. We have three episodes ahead of us and, while I didn't read any synopsis of future episodes, it's well possible Discord will play a bigger role in the future. For instance, Celestia left the elements of harmony to the ponies this time instead of leaving it on canterlot, and Discord seems to be staying on ponyville.
So here is what I think: previously, Celestia had no way to "control" Discord and try to fix him, so she left him as a stone. I mean, she had the whole sun/moon/monarchy thing to care about. This time, she has six ponies ready to control him when needed, and these are specialist on fixing people to be good(esp. Fluttershy, which was the main character here), and friendship specialists.
The whole "I had never a friend" may sound cheesy, but the buildup necessary to use that line correctly is far too big. Besides, he didn't even care much about his friend until he realized he would lose her; which is both perfect for the show and the premise.
As he realized the good that having a friend is, he decided to be "good" instead of bad, and the whole "FRIENDSHIPISMAGIC" line was basically a proof for Celestia to see.
That said, this episode is not that close to the quality of the previous episodes of this season IMO; but it is a build up for something in the future.
I mean, we could even get Discord limited edition toys
Keep in mind that at the end when Fluttershy proudly expressed her success everyone else, including Celestia, looked completely unconvinced. I'm very hopeful that this arc will be developed later on because the ending suggested that Discord's epiphany wasn't fully legitimate.
Keep in mind that at the end when Fluttershy proudly expressed her success everyone else, including Celestia, looked completely unconvinced. I'm very hopeful that this arc will be developed later on because the ending suggested that Discord's epiphany wasn't fully legitimate.
The episode was a very nice one. I like the idea of bringing back discord and I definitely feel that he could be a very interesting recurring character. perhaps the ending was a bit rushed and they could have done it in two parts (discord was won over a bit easily), but overall still a nice episode. also this opens up interesting plots for the future. well played writers, well played
I've heard that this show is actually decent if you disregard the 'girly' aspects. I personally don't buy it, but I'd be more willing to at least give it a try if I knew it had certain aspects...
On January 20 2013 13:45 Kishin2 wrote: I've heard that this show is actually decent if you disregard the 'girly' aspects. I personally don't buy it, but I'd be more willing to at least give it a try if I knew it had certain aspects...
Does the show have swords?
I think Spike was carrying a sword in a dream in the diamond dogs episode. Other than that Magic is just plain OP man.
Can't hurt to try the show, watch at least 2-3 episodes. If your not liking it try one of the recommended eps in the front page. You can waste more time and money on a bad movie at the theaters than you do watching 5 eps of MLP.
wether you like it or not, come back and let us know what you thought, always fun to hear stories about those who try it for the first time.
On January 20 2013 13:45 Kishin2 wrote: I've heard that this show is actually decent if you disregard the 'girly' aspects. I personally don't buy it, but I'd be more willing to at least give it a try if I knew it had certain aspects...
Does the show have swords?
Nah. We have flying horses that break the sound barrier. Or a double-personality horse that may have diabetus. We also got a turtle named Tank. and a bunny that comes from Watership Down itself.
Just watch it, being open about it. Believe me; it's not that you disregard the girly aspect of the show, it's that you embrace it and it somehow feels manlier than anything else.
So on the drive home tonight, I thought about today's episode. And because at the moment I am feeling really sentimental, I will write them out because I like writing when I am feeling sentimental.
I was analyzing today's episode, thinking about the writing and the pacing. I sat there for a good 20 miles pondering on the show when I came to the conclusion I enjoyed Season 1 a whole lot more than Season 2 and Season 3 (so far). At first I attributed this to season 1 being of higher quality than the latter two.
But then I realized that it wasn't the quality that had changed (although you can argue that), but my attitude. I enjoyed season 1 more because all I did was enjoy the show for what it was at face value. You know which group of people enjoy the show at face value? Kids. Young children. The very target demographic that this show was created for.
So even though we often praise the show for being awesome despite being labeled as a show for 5 year old girls, perhaps from time to time, we should remember to watch this show from the perspective of a 5 year old girl.
As Tabitha St. Germaine said once in an interview (I will roughly paraphrase), people who enjoy My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic are still kids at heart. I think that there is a lot of truth behind that.
So, in between our criticism and analysis of the show, we should remember to sit back and let the kid in us watch and enjoy. I think a lot of us, myself included, would find the episodes to be more enjoyable that way.
Edit: Also, as it turns out, this is my 500th post (yay?). Maybe when I am less tired I will turn it into something longer.