On October 11 2011 15:00 dsousa wrote: The one thing I still don't understand .....
How did Gus know not to go to his car when the bomb was under it? Why did they show a quick glimpse of the necklace wrapped around the rear view mirror?
Gus didn't poison the kid, but Jessie implied he did it to his face. This set of Gus' alarm, he knew something was up. If he knew it was part of Walt's plan or not, I don't know, but for a man that cautious it was not out of character at all.
As for the necklace, it was obvious implication that it wasn't over yet, that Walt was still being watched by someone from the organization. Foreshadowing of things to come.
I don't think that's it at all. I mean, yeah, it's not over yet, but there was nobody in that car and Walt has no reason to suspect he's in any danger.
The Pollos Hermanos badge wrapped around the rear view mirror was from Gus's car. The one that he didn't get into because it had a bomb strapped to it. Walt parked on top of the hospital parking structure to check up on Brock's status and then when he drove away he saw the car exactly where Gus left it. He was almost reminiscing because that's the last piece of Gus -- Walt's greatest challenge -- Walt will ever see.
On October 11 2011 15:00 dsousa wrote: The one thing I still don't understand .....
How did Gus know not to go to his car when the bomb was under it? Why did they show a quick glimpse of the necklace wrapped around the rear view mirror?
Such a good finale... Looks like there's not start date for the next and final season, except that filming begins early 2012. Hopefully it starts in march instead of july, I can't wait.
I guess the fact that he was suspicious is proof that he didn't poison the boy. I think the entire dynamic of the boy becoming poisoned and having Jessie blame Walt is flimsy.
Otherwise best TV show ever. Jesse Pinkman needs some hardware and Malcom's Dad is the next Scorsese.
I don't know if they will introduce a new antagonist or if they will transition Walt into a full villain but i must say.. I will definately miss Gustavo Fring, Giancarlo Esposito and Vince Gillian did a remarkable job in creating this masterpiece of a character.
Epic ending worthy of one of the best bad guys of all time.
.... is it weird that i'm hoping he's still alive because the radio said, "3 men may have been killed"?
On October 11 2011 16:13 ayeZuN wrote: .... is it weird that i'm hoping he's still alive because the radio said, "3 men may have been killed"?
The radio was broadcasting only what happened in the bomb blast. They don't report 3 men have died, probably because there is always a chance that no one is hurt according to the news cast logic.
On October 11 2011 15:00 dsousa wrote: The one thing I still don't understand .....
How did Gus know not to go to his car when the bomb was under it? Why did they show a quick glimpse of the necklace wrapped around the rear view mirror?
Gus didn't poison the kid, but Jessie implied he did it to his face. This set of Gus' alarm, he knew something was up. If he knew it was part of Walt's plan or not, I don't know, but for a man that cautious it was not out of character at all.
As for the necklace, it was obvious implication that it wasn't over yet, that Walt was still being watched by someone from the organization. Foreshadowing of things to come.
I don't think that's it at all. I mean, yeah, it's not over yet, but there was nobody in that car and Walt has no reason to suspect he's in any danger.
The Pollos Hermanos badge wrapped around the rear view mirror was from Gus's car. The one that he didn't get into because it had a bomb strapped to it. Walt parked on top of the hospital parking structure to check up on Brock's status and then when he drove away he saw the car exactly where Gus left it. He was almost reminiscing because that's the last piece of Gus -- Walt's greatest challenge -- Walt will ever see.
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply someone was in the car. I sorta interpreted the logo as symbolic of the organization itself still lingering on and that Walt was foolish to believe killing Gus erased everything to do with him from the planet. I saw it as him saying "He's won" only to see right after a metaphorical ghost staring him in the face. I think he's rather optimistic that he's escaped.
Besides, one of my favorite amoral characters is still in some shady semi-hospital waiting to come back.
On October 11 2011 15:00 dsousa wrote: The one thing I still don't understand .....
How did Gus know not to go to his car when the bomb was under it? Why did they show a quick glimpse of the necklace wrapped around the rear view mirror?
Such a good finale... Looks like there's not start date for the next and final season, except that filming begins early 2012. Hopefully it starts in march instead of july, I can't wait.
I guess the fact that he was suspicious is proof that he didn't poison the boy. I think the entire dynamic of the boy becoming poisoned and having Jessie blame Walt is flimsy.
Otherwise best TV show ever. Jesse Pinkman needs some hardware and Malcom's Dad is the next Scorsese.
I'll disagree. As far as Jesse knows, he and Walt are the only two who knew about the poison. Walt, multiple times, has suggested using the poison to kill and that it would be impossible to trace it back to them. As far as Jesse knows, Walt believes he and Gus are working together to get rid of him, and Walt has not shut up lately about them being dead men already. I think it's reasonable to conclude that Walt may have been seeking revenge out of desperation. To make Jesse feel the pain and fear of losing his loved ones.
Ironically, during the scene where Jesse is going to kill Walt, they go over the possible reasons Walt has for the poisoning, they ended up settling on the one real reason Walt would do it, to convince Jesse to help Walt kill Gus and save his and his family's life. The one thing Walt wanted and the only thing that came out of the attempt on the boy's life.
Unfortunately for Gus, he's portrayed himself as such a heartless killer that it was more believable to Jesse that Gus would throw out his slow and steady courting of Jesse (which appears to me to have been working) and make a rash act to secure Walt's death than it would be for Walt to poison a little kid. Walter exploited that.
Awsome ending, but i still have some interrogations.
Where is the ricine cigarette ? If it's Goodman gardian who took it, how does he know about it ? When did Walter got in contact with Brock to use the Flower poison ? How did Gus guess for the car ?
The fact that we didn't have any informations about Mike is quite weird too.
On October 11 2011 21:03 Noocta wrote: Awsome ending, but i still have some interrogations.
Where is the ricine cigarette ? If it's Goodman gardian who took it, how does he know about it ? When did Walter got in contact with Brock to use the Flower poison ? How did Gus guess for the car ?
The fact that we didn't have any informations about Mike is quite weird too.
Yeah, i've just finished watching 4th season and there are some things that are not very clear. (All the things above :p). We do not know if it was really Walter who poisoned Brock or not. But seeing he had the plant in his garden, we might think he is implied. It was pretty clear that Gus didn't survive, but we got no news from Mike, he might've been injured or dead. Hope we will get some answers in the 5th season. Can't wait for it to come out, such a great serie.
On October 11 2011 21:03 Noocta wrote: Awsome ending, but i still have some interrogations.
Where is the ricine cigarette ? If it's Goodman gardian who took it, how does he know about it ? When did Walter got in contact with Brock to use the Flower poison ? How did Gus guess for the car ?
The fact that we didn't have any informations about Mike is quite weird too.
On October 11 2011 15:00 dsousa wrote: The one thing I still don't understand .....
How did Gus know not to go to his car when the bomb was under it? Why did they show a quick glimpse of the necklace wrapped around the rear view mirror?
Gus didn't poison the kid, but Jessie implied he did it to his face. This set of Gus' alarm, he knew something was up. If he knew it was part of Walt's plan or not, I don't know, but for a man that cautious it was not out of character at all.
As for the necklace, it was obvious implication that it wasn't over yet, that Walt was still being watched by someone from the organization. Foreshadowing of things to come.
I don't think that's it at all. I mean, yeah, it's not over yet, but there was nobody in that car and Walt has no reason to suspect he's in any danger.
The Pollos Hermanos badge wrapped around the rear view mirror was from Gus's car. The one that he didn't get into because it had a bomb strapped to it. Walt parked on top of the hospital parking structure to check up on Brock's status and then when he drove away he saw the car exactly where Gus left it. He was almost reminiscing because that's the last piece of Gus -- Walt's greatest challenge -- Walt will ever see.
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply someone was in the car. I sorta interpreted the logo as symbolic of the organization itself still lingering on and that Walt was foolish to believe killing Gus erased everything to do with him from the planet. I saw it as him saying "He's won" only to see right after a metaphorical ghost staring him in the face. I think he's rather optimistic that he's escaped.
Besides, one of my favorite amoral characters is still in some shady semi-hospital waiting to come back.
Ah, I agree with that then. Gus's history was left pretty vague, but Don Eladio commeneted on how he wasn't shot during their first meeting because "he knew who he was." I'm predicting someone connected to Gus is going to come gunning for Walt.
And yeah, hopefully we get to see Mike again. One of the most badass characters on television.
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