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Kojak21
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1104 Posts
October 11 2011 18:58 GMT
#1361
Walt is dead next season, i just know it will end like that
¯\_(☺)_/¯
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
October 11 2011 19:12 GMT
#1362
Watching the Gus scene again really irritates me somehow. When Tyrus spins Hector's chair around, theres a good 5 second period where Gus is staring directly at the bomb when Hector's legs aren't hiding it
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
October 11 2011 19:16 GMT
#1363
Hes clearly staring at Tio. Who the hell examines the bottom of wheelchairs when talking to people in them?
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
October 11 2011 19:27 GMT
#1364
On October 12 2011 04:16 lizzard_warish wrote:
Hes clearly staring at Tio. Who the hell examines the bottom of wheelchairs when talking to people in them?


That's the point. It's not a tiny flat thing that you'll never see attached to the bottom of a chair. It's a huge bulky metal cylinder that is taped to the reinforcements holding the wheels together. Nobody would have missed it. Let alone Gus who is basically built up as meticulous and thorough.

I'm not sad he died, or how. The scene is just carelessly done. From the bomb, to him walking out straightening his tie when he quite clearly has an Epidural hematoma, to the suit barely being grazed. For my favourite character to die, it should have been reasonably believable and accurate.
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
October 11 2011 19:29 GMT
#1365
i also liked how walt was getting played by saul's assistant ^^ he's still not the boss as much as he maybe thinks he is. (he should have said "you know, in my other pocket i got a gun", but i think stuff like that is reserved for next season)
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
October 11 2011 19:29 GMT
#1366
What? The point is hes staring at the mans face, hes paying attention to the man he intends to kill, hes relishing such a notion. Hes not looking around the room, so he has no ability to notice anything. Tunnel vision...pretty common human trait when your intently interested on a particular object.
dranko
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 19:33:09
October 11 2011 19:32 GMT
#1367
On October 12 2011 04:27 Resilient wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 04:16 lizzard_warish wrote:
Hes clearly staring at Tio. Who the hell examines the bottom of wheelchairs when talking to people in them?


That's the point. It's not a tiny flat thing that you'll never see attached to the bottom of a chair. It's a huge bulky metal cylinder that is taped to the reinforcements holding the wheels together. Nobody would have missed it. Let alone Gus who is basically built up as meticulous and thorough.

I'm not sad he died, or how. The scene is just carelessly done. From the bomb, to him walking out straightening his tie when he quite clearly has an Epidural hematoma, to the suit barely being grazed. For my favourite character to die, it should have been reasonably believable and accurate.


It really isn't that noticable in my opinion. Also, Gus was completely blinded by his lust for revenge, that's all he could think of at that moment.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
October 11 2011 19:37 GMT
#1368
On October 12 2011 04:27 Resilient wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 04:16 lizzard_warish wrote:
Hes clearly staring at Tio. Who the hell examines the bottom of wheelchairs when talking to people in them?


That's the point. It's not a tiny flat thing that you'll never see attached to the bottom of a chair. It's a huge bulky metal cylinder that is taped to the reinforcements holding the wheels together. Nobody would have missed it. Let alone Gus who is basically built up as meticulous and thorough.

I'm not sad he died, or how. The scene is just carelessly done. From the bomb, to him walking out straightening his tie when he quite clearly has an Epidural hematoma, to the suit barely being grazed. For my favourite character to die, it should have been reasonably believable and accurate.


Every single scene in cinema history can be considered flawed when you pretend that your interpretation of what a character "should" be doing is more valid then what is actually happening.

Gus did not look at the bomb. This is not so illogical as that it should make people question it.


"I would not have acted like this, therefore this scene is incorrect"

You are not Gus and Gus is not supposed to be you. The character of Gus is it's own character and that character acted the way he did.


Maybe when finally killing a man he despises greatly, he isn't paying a whole lot of attention to the new polish on the wheels considering his henchman had just give him the ok on the room.

Ooh no wait we are supposed to project our own actions and reasonings onto characters that are in no way like us.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 19:38:35
October 11 2011 19:38 GMT
#1369
On October 12 2011 04:27 Resilient wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 04:16 lizzard_warish wrote:
Hes clearly staring at Tio. Who the hell examines the bottom of wheelchairs when talking to people in them?


That's the point. It's not a tiny flat thing that you'll never see attached to the bottom of a chair. It's a huge bulky metal cylinder that is taped to the reinforcements holding the wheels together. Nobody would have missed it. Let alone Gus who is basically built up as meticulous and thorough.

I'm not sad he died, or how. The scene is just carelessly done. From the bomb, to him walking out straightening his tie when he quite clearly has an Epidural hematoma, to the suit barely being grazed. For my favourite character to die, it should have been reasonably believable and accurate.


People have to get over what they know as an audience member and imagine the situation from Gus' eyes.

Gus has no reason to believe that TIo has the means, access or capability of killing him. Gus has visited Tio, unannounced, countless times before. The only reason that he is going to visit Tio is to kill him for requesting a meeting with the DEA. As far as he knows, this is Tio's last ditch effort to bring him down, by sinking as low as dealing with the Feds, something he's refused to do in the past (after Tuco's death).

Gus was my favorite character as well. Even though him walking out of the room was unrealistic, it was a fitting testament to his badassness. Classy and non-chalant even with half a face.

The more I think about it, the more I really thought they handled his death well.








lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
October 11 2011 20:20 GMT
#1370
Its actually not unrealistic- its just improbable- for a man to walk out, in shock, with half a face. It's happened before in reality, it clearly cant be unrealistic...
tok
Profile Joined April 2010
United States691 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 21:35:08
October 11 2011 21:34 GMT
#1371
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When I saw his face I knew gus was going to die. So good
Horst
Profile Joined November 2010
338 Posts
October 11 2011 21:48 GMT
#1372
I assumed that was an oxygen tank strapped to the back of hector's chair... and anything else attached to his chair would be part of that oxygen tank.
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 10:49:05
October 12 2011 10:13 GMT
#1373
Tio salamanca is such an amazing and iconic character, I loved* the episodes he was on.
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
October 12 2011 16:57 GMT
#1374
finally got around to watchin the last ep

god what a series
young ho
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
October 12 2011 19:11 GMT
#1375
I wonder what Mike's reaction to the big upheaval will be when he returns.
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HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
October 12 2011 20:03 GMT
#1376
This is no doubt old and a repost but it's just the best.

AdministratorNot actually Hawaiian.
theherder2
Profile Joined September 2010
United States538 Posts
October 12 2011 20:27 GMT
#1377
On October 11 2011 21:32 krayzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 21:03 Noocta wrote:
Awsome ending, but i still have some interrogations.

Where is the ricine cigarette ? If it's Goodman gardian who took it, how does he know about it ?
When did Walter got in contact with Brock to use the Flower poison ?
How did Gus guess for the car ?

The fact that we didn't have any informations about Mike is quite weird too.


Yeah, i've just finished watching 4th season and there are some things that are not very clear. (All the things above :p).
We do not know if it was really Walter who poisoned Brock or not. But seeing he had the plant in his garden, we might think he is implied.
It was pretty clear that Gus didn't survive, but we got no news from Mike, he might've been injured or dead.
Hope we will get some answers in the 5th season. Can't wait for it to come out, such a great serie.



Walt poisoned Brock. If you watched the inside the episode, its stated pretty clearly that Walt did it. It wasn't meant to be ambiguous in any way, just like how Jesse shot Gale was supposed to be clear.

I'm looking forward to next season. I think its going to be Walt + Saul vs Jesse + Mike.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
October 12 2011 21:32 GMT
#1378
Some people will just refuse to believe it until they see Walt shove the poison down the kids throat himself and even then they will argue that maybe off-screen something happens wich means it wasn't Walt.

Personally i don't see how someone can seriously suggest that we don't know that Walt poisoned the kid. The camera said it all, if people can't pick up on that...
tok
Profile Joined April 2010
United States691 Posts
October 13 2011 00:22 GMT
#1379
On October 13 2011 05:03 HawaiianPig wrote:
This is no doubt old and a repost but it's just the best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhhrkPiXZj4

I got the number right here lol
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
October 13 2011 00:38 GMT
#1380
On October 13 2011 05:27 theherder2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 21:32 krayzy wrote:
On October 11 2011 21:03 Noocta wrote:
Awsome ending, but i still have some interrogations.

Where is the ricine cigarette ? If it's Goodman gardian who took it, how does he know about it ?
When did Walter got in contact with Brock to use the Flower poison ?
How did Gus guess for the car ?

The fact that we didn't have any informations about Mike is quite weird too.


Yeah, i've just finished watching 4th season and there are some things that are not very clear. (All the things above :p).
We do not know if it was really Walter who poisoned Brock or not. But seeing he had the plant in his garden, we might think he is implied.
It was pretty clear that Gus didn't survive, but we got no news from Mike, he might've been injured or dead.
Hope we will get some answers in the 5th season. Can't wait for it to come out, such a great serie.



Walt poisoned Brock. If you watched the inside the episode, its stated pretty clearly that Walt did it. It wasn't meant to be ambiguous in any way, just like how Jesse shot Gale was supposed to be clear.

I'm looking forward to next season. I think its going to be Walt + Saul vs Jesse + Mike.
What about Hank? He was so damn good in season 4, I think he's going to have to find out the truth in S5.
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