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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
August 28 2011 10:28 GMT
#381
On August 28 2011 18:36 0x64 wrote:
What makes Gus interested in Jesse is his ultimate fidelity to Walter.
What he saw in him is the even if he could have run and hide, he went and shot Gayle (or htf his name is spelled).
Then he organized him a test. The episode ending on the quote "no matter how you look at it, the kid's a hero".
So once again, they see a guy that given a chance will stay loyal to the end.
Now that doesn't exclude manipulation, but Gus might be honest on what he says.

The thing I don't understand are these truck attacks and why the authorities point of view haven't been showed at all (or at least the news "a second chicken pollos truck attacked...)


I don't think Gus is interested in Jesse at all. Jesse's recklessness is 10x more costly than what his loyalty is worth. From the first day Gus saw Jesse ("your partner was late and he was high") he had a disdain for him. Gus is playing Jesse to keep him out of trouble and to separate him from Walter. He is doing it in such a masterful way that Jesse doesn't even know it. The fake robbery and then last episode the line Gus gives to Jesse, "I like to think I see things in people" was great. Gus is a legend in this game and he is 2 steps ahead of anyone else.
Ostracized
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada52 Posts
August 29 2011 03:03 GMT
#382
Great last scene!
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 03:31:17
August 29 2011 03:30 GMT
#383
The "...don't smoke it" forshadowing was way too obvious right?

They wouldn't actually...
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24756 Posts
August 29 2011 03:32 GMT
#384
On August 29 2011 12:30 sjschmidt93 wrote:
The "...don't smoke it" forshadowing was way too obvious right?

They wouldn't actually...

I'm thinking it could forshadow that he will give the cig to someone to kill them (whether intentional or not). Yeah it would be pretty lame if he got high, smoked it, and died, and the series ended lol.
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teaCher
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada521 Posts
August 29 2011 03:51 GMT
#385
GUSTAVO IS SCREWED!!!
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javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
August 29 2011 03:52 GMT
#386
jesse's monologue at the narcotics anonymous meeting was amazing :o. definitely deserves an emmy
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
August 29 2011 05:04 GMT
#387
I almost forgot what a great character Jessie Pinkman was until this episode. Great last scene as well.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
August 29 2011 05:28 GMT
#388
Mmm Jesse episodes have become more and more amazing. I honestly don't see Gus making it out of this season alive anymore. Cartel on a warpath incoming and DEA getting hyper suspicious? For being hyper careful he let his greed disintegrate the stability of his operations.
Sup.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
August 29 2011 06:15 GMT
#389
I don't have much to add. This was an awesome episode of an awesome show.

If Walter's son working for Gus I'm going to lose a gasket. I can't handle anymore tension, man.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
August 29 2011 08:21 GMT
#390
I think Jesse's gun had blanks in it
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
August 29 2011 08:35 GMT
#391
great episode, this show really has been good the entire time.

im confused tho, was that like a special version of rage made to be used for the tv show lol?

cause pretty sure its not a on rails shooter
young ho
Playguuu
Profile Joined April 2010
United States926 Posts
August 29 2011 08:55 GMT
#392
On August 29 2011 17:35 soullogik wrote:
great episode, this show really has been good the entire time.

im confused tho, was that like a special version of rage made to be used for the tv show lol?

cause pretty sure its not a on rails shooter


Haha, probably just stock footage they told Jesse's character to act to.

Great episode I must say, they really are winding the tension to close out the season. Can't wait to see how it's going to end.
I used to be just like you, then I took a sweetroll to the knee.
Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
August 29 2011 08:59 GMT
#393
On August 29 2011 12:03 Ostracized wrote:
Great last scene!


^^this

my fav of the seaosn so fav up there with the box cutter scene from EP1
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 09:56:58
August 29 2011 09:56 GMT
#394
On August 29 2011 12:03 Ostracized wrote:
Great last scene!

totally agree.. i watched that scene 3 times.. sooo good! cant wait for next week
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
flothere
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany55 Posts
August 29 2011 12:37 GMT
#395
Cool Guys don't look at explosions :D
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
August 29 2011 12:53 GMT
#396
This was the best episode so far for this season.
Ygz
Profile Joined June 2010
England370 Posts
August 29 2011 13:43 GMT
#397
Damn that cliff hanger! I wonder what's gonna happen next with gus and the cartel, shit's gonna get wild.
Everything Newton said.
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 13:57:55
August 29 2011 13:54 GMT
#398
On August 28 2011 19:28 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 18:36 0x64 wrote:
What makes Gus interested in Jesse is his ultimate fidelity to Walter.
What he saw in him is the even if he could have run and hide, he went and shot Gayle (or htf his name is spelled).
Then he organized him a test. The episode ending on the quote "no matter how you look at it, the kid's a hero".
So once again, they see a guy that given a chance will stay loyal to the end.
Now that doesn't exclude manipulation, but Gus might be honest on what he says.

The thing I don't understand are these truck attacks and why the authorities point of view haven't been showed at all (or at least the news "a second chicken pollos truck attacked...)


I don't think Gus is interested in Jesse at all. Jesse's recklessness is 10x more costly than what his loyalty is worth. From the first day Gus saw Jesse ("your partner was late and he was high") he had a disdain for him. Gus is playing Jesse to keep him out of trouble and to separate him from Walter. He is doing it in such a masterful way that Jesse doesn't even know it. The fake robbery and then last episode the line Gus gives to Jesse, "I like to think I see things in people" was great. Gus is a legend in this game and he is 2 steps ahead of anyone else.


2 steps ahead? i don't think so.
- leaving finger prints in a meth chemist's house is not 2 steps ahead. if he were smarter he would erase all traces of him or ties connecting him to another person.
- allowing the chemist to write out the 300 thousand dollar equipment on his damn napkin is hardly 2 steps ahead.
- allowing his chemist to keep a notebook of meth instructions is hardly 2 steps ahead when you don't account for the other variables that can come back and bite you.
- not having enough strict staff to monitor walter's actions lead the lady cleaners able to find out about the meth lab which could have been anyone.
- the fact his chemist got killed really shows a lack of security. especially since it's pinkman who literally ran up, rang the door bell and shot him in the face. if you have more than 50 million dollars to throw and that's probably a small number to him, you'd probably think his main employee who's supposed to outdo Walter soon enough would be protected at all cost.

if anyone has ever seen death note, that's more along the lines of 2 steps ahead. 1st control yourself then 2. control the other variables. in this case gus allows so many mistakes that can be tied back to him by not even giving the chemist a set of rules they have to oblige to except working hours.
Resent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia938 Posts
August 29 2011 16:00 GMT
#399
I loved the dialogue in this episode...Jessies monologue goes without saying but my favourite line outside of that was when hank says 'Uh i dunno about this one, he might eat up all your profits' in response to Gus offering Walt Jr a job.


Also loved the way the scene at the front of the church is shot, with the counselor(can't for the life of me remember his name) standing a step above Jesse, and in the light while Jesse is in the dark, yet when he walk in the door he is immediately going downstairs into the dark. I dunno i'm probably overthinking it but it just seemed so perfect to me!
tok
Profile Joined April 2010
United States691 Posts
August 29 2011 16:03 GMT
#400
This season is so suspenseful I get so angry when I miss an episode for more than a day or two.
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