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giX
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States185 Posts
August 09 2011 08:01 GMT
#321
this show gives me a reason to look forward to sunday nights
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slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
August 15 2011 03:05 GMT
#322
Just finished tonight's episode. I didn't love the episode, it felt a little over-directed and I prefer dialogue to the amount of motion acting in this episode. Michelle MacLaren is sorta known for this in her directing. If you've seen the second episode of The Walking Dead or Breaking Bad's "The Fly" (the ultimate hate it or love it episode,) then you can see how she loves scenes of motion and mounting stress. I don't think it worked in this episode, personally.

That being said, I like where the plot is headed and the characters continue to be really wonderful. I love Mike, his facial expression of annoyance deserves the Best Facial Expression of a TV Drama Series Academy Award. And of course, Walter's overweening pride continues to be his tragic flaw. Also, the wedge Gus is driving between Walt and Jesse is very cerebral - or maybe he actually sees value in Jesse Pinkman?
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
August 15 2011 05:23 GMT
#323
+ Show Spoiler +
Since when do vegans eat fried chicken?

BITCH.

Oh baby they know how to push your buttons.
Sup.
Partypants
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia50 Posts
August 15 2011 05:29 GMT
#324
I'm not liking this new season , it lacks the depth of story line the other 3 seasons had and i watched all 3 religiously
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
August 15 2011 05:37 GMT
#325
I'm wondering if AMC has the previous episodes online maybe? I caught some of the show over the first 3 seasons but i started watching this season and it's a really good show. Want to see the first 3 seasons. Not looking for torrents or shit just if AMC has it on their site. I'm browsing around there but don't see anything really.

Did find this though. Regarding how many seasons they are gonna have etc (not sure if its been posted or not) + Show Spoiler +
16 more episodes
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uGoatt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States85 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 07:07:27
August 15 2011 07:06 GMT
#326
+ Show Spoiler +
"Since when do vegans eat fried chicken?"

after that i was like
AWWWWWW YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
and then the credits rolled and i was like FUCK another week.




edit for spoiler.... didnt notice it was up above too. although i dont think it makes sense unless you see the episode that its a spoiler
RmoteCntrld
Profile Joined June 2010
United States596 Posts
August 15 2011 07:40 GMT
#327
On August 15 2011 12:05 slyboogie wrote:
Just finished tonight's episode. I didn't love the episode, it felt a little over-directed and I prefer dialogue to the amount of motion acting in this episode. Michelle MacLaren is sorta known for this in her directing. If you've seen the second episode of The Walking Dead or Breaking Bad's "The Fly" (the ultimate hate it or love it episode,) then you can see how she loves scenes of motion and mounting stress. I don't think it worked in this episode, personally.

That being said, I like where the plot is headed and the characters continue to be really wonderful. I love Mike, his facial expression of annoyance deserves the Best Facial Expression of a TV Drama Series Academy Award. And of course, Walter's overweening pride continues to be his tragic flaw. Also, the wedge Gus is driving between Walt and Jesse is very cerebral - or maybe he actually sees value in Jesse Pinkman?



No he doesn't see value in Jesse, he just needed to do something to calm him down. The way he was drawing attention and spending money the Taxman would come knocking soon. I think his idea was to restore some of Jesse's pride give him something to live for before he fucked over the entire operation. The wedge is just forced between Walt and Jesse though is just gravy.
b0ngt0ss
Profile Joined July 2011
259 Posts
August 15 2011 07:54 GMT
#328
On August 15 2011 16:40 RmoteCntrld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 12:05 slyboogie wrote:
Just finished tonight's episode. I didn't love the episode, it felt a little over-directed and I prefer dialogue to the amount of motion acting in this episode. Michelle MacLaren is sorta known for this in her directing. If you've seen the second episode of The Walking Dead or Breaking Bad's "The Fly" (the ultimate hate it or love it episode,) then you can see how she loves scenes of motion and mounting stress. I don't think it worked in this episode, personally.

That being said, I like where the plot is headed and the characters continue to be really wonderful. I love Mike, his facial expression of annoyance deserves the Best Facial Expression of a TV Drama Series Academy Award. And of course, Walter's overweening pride continues to be his tragic flaw. Also, the wedge Gus is driving between Walt and Jesse is very cerebral - or maybe he actually sees value in Jesse Pinkman?



No he doesn't see value in Jesse, he just needed to do something to calm him down. The way he was drawing attention and spending money the Taxman would come knocking soon. I think his idea was to restore some of Jesse's pride give him something to live for before he fucked over the entire operation. The wedge is just forced between Walt and Jesse though is just gravy.

yea def..oldest trick in the book.
divide and conquer
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
August 15 2011 08:37 GMT
#329
I laughed hard when Walter's ego couldn't handle someone else getting called genius for his work. ) Really a fantastic scene.
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
August 15 2011 08:41 GMT
#330
I am a long time hardcore fan of this show and I am very sad to say that tonight's episode is the night Breaking Bad died for me. I knew it was dead the moment Skyler asked Walt to move back in and he ignored her. It completely goes against Walt's character. Remember why Walt even started making meth in the first place? He could have had his entire treatment paid for by Elliot Schwarz, but he realized that his time was almost up. If he was ever planning on living without being pushed around, struggling to pay bills, or being dependent on other people it was now or never. Meth was just an opportunity to use his lifelong passion of chemistry to reach this ideal life. He wanted to be the one to provide for his family and no one else. And now with season 4 AMC is trying to convince me that the violence he has witnessed and been forced to take part in has turned him into an angry reckless attempt at a badass and I'm not buying it. As for Skyler, AMC has suddenly dramatically changed her from being naggy and irritable to really friendly just to facilitate Walt. It's completely illogical.

As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
Pyskee
Profile Joined April 2011
United States620 Posts
August 15 2011 08:56 GMT
#331
I watched the episodes from the first three seasons back to back. Having to wait week to week with endings like tonight's is stressing me out o_O
"If you really don't give a shit what brand you chew, chew Stride." - Liquid'Tyler. Gives shoutouts like a boss.
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
August 15 2011 09:08 GMT
#332
On August 15 2011 17:41 Voltaire wrote:
I am a long time hardcore fan of this show and I am very sad to say that tonight's episode is the night Breaking Bad died for me. I knew it was dead the moment Skyler asked Walt to move back in and he ignored her. It completely goes against Walt's character. Remember why Walt even started making meth in the first place? He could have had his entire treatment paid for by Elliot Schwarz, but he realized that his time was almost up. If he was ever planning on living without being pushed around, struggling to pay bills, or being dependent on other people it was now or never. Meth was just an opportunity to use his lifelong passion of chemistry to reach this ideal life. He wanted to be the one to provide for his family and no one else. And now with season 4 AMC is trying to convince me that the violence he has witnessed and been forced to take part in has turned him into an angry reckless attempt at a badass and I'm not buying it. As for Skyler, AMC has suddenly dramatically changed her from being naggy and irritable to really friendly just to facilitate Walt. It's completely illogical.



I don't think Walt was ignoring her. He almost certainly will move back in. However, past episodes as well as the scene in the kitchen with Walter Jr. suggest that Walt is upset that Skylar seems to be becoming more controlling. It seemed as though she had just decided on Walt moving back in down to the day without speaking to him further. At the same time, Walt is staying pretty true to his motivation by trying to conceal the real danger he is in from Skylar. As for the change in personality, I'd say that is less a 180 and more her initially recoiling from the whole drug news and now trying to control it as a part of her life.

skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
August 15 2011 09:40 GMT
#333


Super surprised when this song started playing. The whole album is also really good.
Its not only the rain that brings the thunder
Resent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia938 Posts
August 15 2011 09:59 GMT
#334
On August 15 2011 17:41 Voltaire wrote:
I am a long time hardcore fan of this show and I am very sad to say that tonight's episode is the night Breaking Bad died for me. I knew it was dead the moment Skyler asked Walt to move back in and he ignored her. It completely goes against Walt's character. Remember why Walt even started making meth in the first place? He could have had his entire treatment paid for by Elliot Schwarz, but he realized that his time was almost up. If he was ever planning on living without being pushed around, struggling to pay bills, or being dependent on other people it was now or never. Meth was just an opportunity to use his lifelong passion of chemistry to reach this ideal life. He wanted to be the one to provide for his family and no one else. And now with season 4 AMC is trying to convince me that the violence he has witnessed and been forced to take part in has turned him into an angry reckless attempt at a badass and I'm not buying it. As for Skyler, AMC has suddenly dramatically changed her from being naggy and irritable to really friendly just to facilitate Walt. It's completely illogical.


Disagree with almost all of this.. He started cooking meth so that he would leave money behind for Skyler to support the family with, it wasn't about him. Meth was just the get rich fast scheme which he thought would be easiest for him.

Afterwards, when he started to actually see first hand how cutthroat the drug trade was is when he started being a 'badass'. Do you remember the opening scene of the pilot? When he stood in the road in his underwear with a pistol, ready to take on the police whom he thought were about to discover his meth van, do you think that wasn't reckless? He's been reckless since season 1, and in recent episodes it has been a major part of his character because of the whole box cutter thing and the fact that he still greatly believes Gus is out to end him at 'the first opportunity he gets'. Add Skylers behavior on to that and you think its illogical for him to be angry and frustrated easily?

Now on to Skyler, 'friendly just to facilitate walt'? please. When she first started to unravel the lies and deception from Walt she was understandably angry, confused, overwhelmed etc, thinking he was cheating and then the conclusion he was some kind of drug dealer, at that time she took the moral high ground and gave him the boot. As time passed and she started to move on and accept what has happened and sees how Walt now acts, that badboy image has started to win her over, not to mention the monetary gains that will come with it. She has increasingly been trying to pull herself into Walts Drug manufacturing life, much to his dismay, and every time he tried to keep her away, she guilted him into getting what she wants, how friendly of her.


Lastly, the living situation. At this point, Walt has so much shit going on that he can't handle, moving back in with Skyler is a huge deal to him, Skyler has just made the decision as if its so simple its nothing, which it most certainly is not. Also, walt didn't ignore her at all, he didn't know what to say, the difference is so ridiculously huge its crazy


Gnax
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden490 Posts
August 15 2011 10:08 GMT
#335
On August 15 2011 17:41 Voltaire wrote:
I am a long time hardcore fan of this show and I am very sad to say that tonight's episode is the night Breaking Bad died for me. I knew it was dead the moment Skyler asked Walt to move back in and he ignored her. It completely goes against Walt's character. Remember why Walt even started making meth in the first place? He could have had his entire treatment paid for by Elliot Schwarz, but he realized that his time was almost up. If he was ever planning on living without being pushed around, struggling to pay bills, or being dependent on other people it was now or never. Meth was just an opportunity to use his lifelong passion of chemistry to reach this ideal life. He wanted to be the one to provide for his family and no one else. And now with season 4 AMC is trying to convince me that the violence he has witnessed and been forced to take part in has turned him into an angry reckless attempt at a badass and I'm not buying it. As for Skyler, AMC has suddenly dramatically changed her from being naggy and irritable to really friendly just to facilitate Walt. It's completely illogical.



The show is called Breaking Bad. And it's about Walter White breaking bad and evolving into a darker and darker person. If you were expecting his character to remain the same through out the show, then you are watching the wrong show. How did you even make it to season 4?
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 10:34:47
August 15 2011 10:28 GMT
#336
On August 15 2011 19:08 Gnax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 17:41 Voltaire wrote:
I am a long time hardcore fan of this show and I am very sad to say that tonight's episode is the night Breaking Bad died for me. I knew it was dead the moment Skyler asked Walt to move back in and he ignored her. It completely goes against Walt's character. Remember why Walt even started making meth in the first place? He could have had his entire treatment paid for by Elliot Schwarz, but he realized that his time was almost up. If he was ever planning on living without being pushed around, struggling to pay bills, or being dependent on other people it was now or never. Meth was just an opportunity to use his lifelong passion of chemistry to reach this ideal life. He wanted to be the one to provide for his family and no one else. And now with season 4 AMC is trying to convince me that the violence he has witnessed and been forced to take part in has turned him into an angry reckless attempt at a badass and I'm not buying it. As for Skyler, AMC has suddenly dramatically changed her from being naggy and irritable to really friendly just to facilitate Walt. It's completely illogical.



The show is called Breaking Bad. And it's about Walter White breaking bad and evolving into a darker and darker person. If you were expecting his character to remain the same through out the show, then you are watching the wrong show. How did you even make it to season 4?

I love how in Season 3 Jessie tells Walt: "I accept who I am. I'm the bad guy". This gets Walt thinking and he decides that he's not a bad guy. Wearing that pink sweater, acting nice to everyone and telling Gus that he can't accept the offer of cooking meth in the lab. Fast forward to season 4 and you have one of the most frustrated personalities on TV. In every episode he's acting like a cowboy trying to gun down Gus! He's clearly confused and not thinking things through. Gus is reading him like an open book and playing both of them like pieces on a chess board. In the S4E1 he seemed so confident. Jessie had killed Gale, Gus couldn't kill neither of them, Mike was preparing a switch. Then Gus kills Victor and no one knows whats going on anymore. Love it.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
August 15 2011 10:34 GMT
#337
I fucking hate their kid. All he talks about when he's in shot is about the fucking car he's supposed to get for his birthday. Fuck you, you little piece of shit, go get a job and pay for it yourself.

He really annoys me with the attitude of "My dad won lotta monay biatch, now where's ma car mothafucka?" when he's not thinking about the fact that they just spent almost all they have on the car wash. What money is left over to buy him a car? Wasn't he born with a brain to... iunno.... think with?
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 15 2011 11:33 GMT
#338
On August 15 2011 19:34 SolHeiM wrote:
I fucking hate their kid. All he talks about when he's in shot is about the fucking car he's supposed to get for his birthday. Fuck you, you little piece of shit, go get a job and pay for it yourself.

He really annoys me with the attitude of "My dad won lotta monay biatch, now where's ma car mothafucka?" when he's not thinking about the fact that they just spent almost all they have on the car wash. What money is left over to buy him a car? Wasn't he born with a brain to... iunno.... think with?


Kind of angry there, aren't you? He seems like a cool, good-natured kid, understandably excited to hear that his dad was raking in big money. It's not like he regularly acts like a spoiled brat throughout the show so it's odd that you seem to base all your hate on a single line about a car.
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
August 15 2011 11:42 GMT
#339
On August 15 2011 20:33 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 19:34 SolHeiM wrote:
I fucking hate their kid. All he talks about when he's in shot is about the fucking car he's supposed to get for his birthday. Fuck you, you little piece of shit, go get a job and pay for it yourself.

He really annoys me with the attitude of "My dad won lotta monay biatch, now where's ma car mothafucka?" when he's not thinking about the fact that they just spent almost all they have on the car wash. What money is left over to buy him a car? Wasn't he born with a brain to... iunno.... think with?


Kind of angry there, aren't you? He seems like a cool, good-natured kid, understandably excited to hear that his dad was raking in big money. It's not like he regularly acts like a spoiled brat throughout the show so it's odd that you seem to base all your hate on a single line about a car.


His dad "won at Black Jack" once, and that's all he knows. He also knows they are using that money to buy the car wash. What money is left to buy him a car?

It's that he thinks that he should get a car for his birthday that annoys me.
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 11:45:36
August 15 2011 11:42 GMT
#340
didnt like the episode. strange conclusion of the jessie kidnapping and why would walter, 3 seasons introduced as a clever and careful being, say something like that to hank at the dinner table!?!?

the time lapse driving scene however was amazing, and another demonstration of the outstanding camera and editing in this show.
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