Breaking Bad Season 4 - Page 17
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giX
United States185 Posts
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
That being said, I like where the plot is headed and the characters continue to be really wonderful. I love Mike, his facial expression of annoyance deserves the Best Facial Expression of a TV Drama Series Academy Award. And of course, Walter's overweening pride continues to be his tragic flaw. Also, the wedge Gus is driving between Walt and Jesse is very cerebral - or maybe he actually sees value in Jesse Pinkman? | ||
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
Since when do vegans eat fried chicken? BITCH. Oh baby they know how to push your buttons. | ||
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Partypants
Australia50 Posts
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Engore
United States1916 Posts
Did find this though. Regarding how many seasons they are gonna have etc (not sure if its been posted or not) + Show Spoiler + | ||
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uGoatt
United States85 Posts
"Since when do vegans eat fried chicken?" after that i was like AWWWWWW YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and then the credits rolled and i was like FUCK another week. edit for spoiler.... didnt notice it was up above too. although i dont think it makes sense unless you see the episode that its a spoiler | ||
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RmoteCntrld
United States596 Posts
On August 15 2011 12:05 slyboogie wrote: Just finished tonight's episode. I didn't love the episode, it felt a little over-directed and I prefer dialogue to the amount of motion acting in this episode. Michelle MacLaren is sorta known for this in her directing. If you've seen the second episode of The Walking Dead or Breaking Bad's "The Fly" (the ultimate hate it or love it episode,) then you can see how she loves scenes of motion and mounting stress. I don't think it worked in this episode, personally. That being said, I like where the plot is headed and the characters continue to be really wonderful. I love Mike, his facial expression of annoyance deserves the Best Facial Expression of a TV Drama Series Academy Award. And of course, Walter's overweening pride continues to be his tragic flaw. Also, the wedge Gus is driving between Walt and Jesse is very cerebral - or maybe he actually sees value in Jesse Pinkman? No he doesn't see value in Jesse, he just needed to do something to calm him down. The way he was drawing attention and spending money the Taxman would come knocking soon. I think his idea was to restore some of Jesse's pride give him something to live for before he fucked over the entire operation. The wedge is just forced between Walt and Jesse though is just gravy. | ||
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b0ngt0ss
259 Posts
On August 15 2011 16:40 RmoteCntrld wrote: No he doesn't see value in Jesse, he just needed to do something to calm him down. The way he was drawing attention and spending money the Taxman would come knocking soon. I think his idea was to restore some of Jesse's pride give him something to live for before he fucked over the entire operation. The wedge is just forced between Walt and Jesse though is just gravy. yea def..oldest trick in the book. divide and conquer | ||
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
) Really a fantastic scene. | ||
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Voltaire
United States1485 Posts
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Pyskee
United States620 Posts
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phyren
United States1067 Posts
On August 15 2011 17:41 Voltaire wrote: I am a long time hardcore fan of this show and I am very sad to say that tonight's episode is the night Breaking Bad died for me. I knew it was dead the moment Skyler asked Walt to move back in and he ignored her. It completely goes against Walt's character. Remember why Walt even started making meth in the first place? He could have had his entire treatment paid for by Elliot Schwarz, but he realized that his time was almost up. If he was ever planning on living without being pushed around, struggling to pay bills, or being dependent on other people it was now or never. Meth was just an opportunity to use his lifelong passion of chemistry to reach this ideal life. He wanted to be the one to provide for his family and no one else. And now with season 4 AMC is trying to convince me that the violence he has witnessed and been forced to take part in has turned him into an angry reckless attempt at a badass and I'm not buying it. As for Skyler, AMC has suddenly dramatically changed her from being naggy and irritable to really friendly just to facilitate Walt. It's completely illogical. I don't think Walt was ignoring her. He almost certainly will move back in. However, past episodes as well as the scene in the kitchen with Walter Jr. suggest that Walt is upset that Skylar seems to be becoming more controlling. It seemed as though she had just decided on Walt moving back in down to the day without speaking to him further. At the same time, Walt is staying pretty true to his motivation by trying to conceal the real danger he is in from Skylar. As for the change in personality, I'd say that is less a 180 and more her initially recoiling from the whole drug news and now trying to control it as a part of her life. | ||
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
Super surprised when this song started playing. The whole album is also really good. | ||
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Resent
Australia938 Posts
On August 15 2011 17:41 Voltaire wrote: I am a long time hardcore fan of this show and I am very sad to say that tonight's episode is the night Breaking Bad died for me. I knew it was dead the moment Skyler asked Walt to move back in and he ignored her. It completely goes against Walt's character. Remember why Walt even started making meth in the first place? He could have had his entire treatment paid for by Elliot Schwarz, but he realized that his time was almost up. If he was ever planning on living without being pushed around, struggling to pay bills, or being dependent on other people it was now or never. Meth was just an opportunity to use his lifelong passion of chemistry to reach this ideal life. He wanted to be the one to provide for his family and no one else. And now with season 4 AMC is trying to convince me that the violence he has witnessed and been forced to take part in has turned him into an angry reckless attempt at a badass and I'm not buying it. As for Skyler, AMC has suddenly dramatically changed her from being naggy and irritable to really friendly just to facilitate Walt. It's completely illogical. Disagree with almost all of this.. He started cooking meth so that he would leave money behind for Skyler to support the family with, it wasn't about him. Meth was just the get rich fast scheme which he thought would be easiest for him. Afterwards, when he started to actually see first hand how cutthroat the drug trade was is when he started being a 'badass'. Do you remember the opening scene of the pilot? When he stood in the road in his underwear with a pistol, ready to take on the police whom he thought were about to discover his meth van, do you think that wasn't reckless? He's been reckless since season 1, and in recent episodes it has been a major part of his character because of the whole box cutter thing and the fact that he still greatly believes Gus is out to end him at 'the first opportunity he gets'. Add Skylers behavior on to that and you think its illogical for him to be angry and frustrated easily? Now on to Skyler, 'friendly just to facilitate walt'? please. When she first started to unravel the lies and deception from Walt she was understandably angry, confused, overwhelmed etc, thinking he was cheating and then the conclusion he was some kind of drug dealer, at that time she took the moral high ground and gave him the boot. As time passed and she started to move on and accept what has happened and sees how Walt now acts, that badboy image has started to win her over, not to mention the monetary gains that will come with it. She has increasingly been trying to pull herself into Walts Drug manufacturing life, much to his dismay, and every time he tried to keep her away, she guilted him into getting what she wants, how friendly of her. Lastly, the living situation. At this point, Walt has so much shit going on that he can't handle, moving back in with Skyler is a huge deal to him, Skyler has just made the decision as if its so simple its nothing, which it most certainly is not. Also, walt didn't ignore her at all, he didn't know what to say, the difference is so ridiculously huge its crazy | ||
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Gnax
Sweden490 Posts
On August 15 2011 17:41 Voltaire wrote: I am a long time hardcore fan of this show and I am very sad to say that tonight's episode is the night Breaking Bad died for me. I knew it was dead the moment Skyler asked Walt to move back in and he ignored her. It completely goes against Walt's character. Remember why Walt even started making meth in the first place? He could have had his entire treatment paid for by Elliot Schwarz, but he realized that his time was almost up. If he was ever planning on living without being pushed around, struggling to pay bills, or being dependent on other people it was now or never. Meth was just an opportunity to use his lifelong passion of chemistry to reach this ideal life. He wanted to be the one to provide for his family and no one else. And now with season 4 AMC is trying to convince me that the violence he has witnessed and been forced to take part in has turned him into an angry reckless attempt at a badass and I'm not buying it. As for Skyler, AMC has suddenly dramatically changed her from being naggy and irritable to really friendly just to facilitate Walt. It's completely illogical. The show is called Breaking Bad. And it's about Walter White breaking bad and evolving into a darker and darker person. If you were expecting his character to remain the same through out the show, then you are watching the wrong show. How did you even make it to season 4? | ||
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Emon_
3925 Posts
On August 15 2011 19:08 Gnax wrote: The show is called Breaking Bad. And it's about Walter White breaking bad and evolving into a darker and darker person. If you were expecting his character to remain the same through out the show, then you are watching the wrong show. How did you even make it to season 4? I love how in Season 3 Jessie tells Walt: "I accept who I am. I'm the bad guy". This gets Walt thinking and he decides that he's not a bad guy. Wearing that pink sweater, acting nice to everyone and telling Gus that he can't accept the offer of cooking meth in the lab. Fast forward to season 4 and you have one of the most frustrated personalities on TV. In every episode he's acting like a cowboy trying to gun down Gus! He's clearly confused and not thinking things through. Gus is reading him like an open book and playing both of them like pieces on a chess board. In the S4E1 he seemed so confident. Jessie had killed Gale, Gus couldn't kill neither of them, Mike was preparing a switch. Then Gus kills Victor and no one knows whats going on anymore. Love it. | ||
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SolHeiM
Sweden1264 Posts
He really annoys me with the attitude of "My dad won lotta monay biatch, now where's ma car mothafucka?" when he's not thinking about the fact that they just spent almost all they have on the car wash. What money is left over to buy him a car? Wasn't he born with a brain to... iunno.... think with? | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On August 15 2011 19:34 SolHeiM wrote: I fucking hate their kid. All he talks about when he's in shot is about the fucking car he's supposed to get for his birthday. Fuck you, you little piece of shit, go get a job and pay for it yourself. He really annoys me with the attitude of "My dad won lotta monay biatch, now where's ma car mothafucka?" when he's not thinking about the fact that they just spent almost all they have on the car wash. What money is left over to buy him a car? Wasn't he born with a brain to... iunno.... think with? Kind of angry there, aren't you? He seems like a cool, good-natured kid, understandably excited to hear that his dad was raking in big money. It's not like he regularly acts like a spoiled brat throughout the show so it's odd that you seem to base all your hate on a single line about a car. | ||
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SolHeiM
Sweden1264 Posts
On August 15 2011 20:33 HolyArrow wrote: Kind of angry there, aren't you? He seems like a cool, good-natured kid, understandably excited to hear that his dad was raking in big money. It's not like he regularly acts like a spoiled brat throughout the show so it's odd that you seem to base all your hate on a single line about a car. His dad "won at Black Jack" once, and that's all he knows. He also knows they are using that money to buy the car wash. What money is left to buy him a car? It's that he thinks that he should get a car for his birthday that annoys me. | ||
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Corvi
Germany1406 Posts
the time lapse driving scene however was amazing, and another demonstration of the outstanding camera and editing in this show. | ||
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) Really a fantastic scene.