EPTmm they should have included the entire escape from Harrenhall.. i think it gives a lot of depth to arya´s character..
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Carras
Argentina860 Posts
mm they should have included the entire escape from Harrenhall.. i think it gives a lot of depth to arya´s character.. | ||
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Attican
Denmark531 Posts
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bjwithbraces
United States549 Posts
On May 22 2012 02:58 Geo.Rion wrote: well yeah, as it stands Tyrion's "smart" move is to order wildfire.... which has been ordered already... soo... he does nothing clever in the defense of the city actually what? he builds a huge chain that is submerged underwater, that they pull up after the ships go up the blackwater so they can't escape from the wildfire. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On May 22 2012 03:42 Clegane wrote: That said, I also don't like all of the changes, but if you read some comments from non-book-readers you understand some changes better (and some still not). So the decision from Catelyn feels bad in the series? Apparently I read no complaints from non-book-readers that it had no reason (because it had). And for me it felt bad in the books aswell, the main reason I hated Cat and was actually glad Martin killed her off. I just don't understand why they didn't keep the story closer to the book in this case, as there does not seem to be a reason to change anything. Theon still pretended to kill Bran and Rickon, Catelyn still let Jaime go. So why not have Catelyn hear about the supposed death of her sons? In the books, she is utterly devastated at this point, and releasing Jaime is a spontaneous action out of sheer desperation to get the only living children (apart from Robb) back to her. And they could have done exactly that in the show, too. Now it's just Catelyn spontaneously deciding to free Jaime for no specific reason. Huh. I mean, it's a minor quibble. It's just an example where the show is genuinely worse than the books. It happens, too. | ||
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SilverLeagueElite
United States626 Posts
On May 22 2012 04:37 Conti wrote: So why not have Catelyn hear about the supposed death of her sons? What, and deprive the lynchpin of the series, Ros, her screen time? ^^ | ||
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noobprogramer
Croatia1 Post
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scudst0rm
Canada1149 Posts
On May 22 2012 04:37 Conti wrote: I just don't understand why they didn't keep the story closer to the book in this case, as there does not seem to be a reason to change anything. Theon still pretended to kill Bran and Rickon, Catelyn still let Jaime go. So why not have Catelyn hear about the supposed death of her sons? In the books, she is utterly devastated at this point, and releasing Jaime is a spontaneous action out of sheer desperation to get the only living children (apart from Robb) back to her. And they could have done exactly that in the show, too. Now it's just Catelyn spontaneously deciding to free Jaime for no specific reason. Huh. I mean, it's a minor quibble. It's just an example where the show is genuinely worse than the books. It happens, too. I think it all comes from how they've moved the story arcs around in time. They moved Jaime's escape up from the end of the book because they want more of him in this season and maybe them getting captured by the goat as the finale? So chronologically they didn't have enough slack in either story line to have Bran and Rickon killed in one episode, and Cat hear about it in the next and free Jaime. On it's own Cat's motivations seems believable enough. The Karstarks wanted to kill Jaime and she was convinced he would be dead by the morning. She's had the notion of trading him for the girls sitting in the back of her mind, at this point its now or never. Thinking Bran and Rickon are dead is better motivation, but I don't think it's necessary to make it believable. | ||
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anomalopidae
Slovenia549 Posts
On May 22 2012 03:56 chillpenguin wrote: Anyone else disappointed with the Wildling's "uniforms"? They look like they raided Empire Strikes Back's wardrobe from the Hoth Scenes. I always pictured them to be wearing like all kinds of random animal skins and such, kinda like what Tyrion's hill tribes looked like. Instead they all have this same L.L. Bean fuzzy white parka. well they're not exactly uniforms  considering it's winter there most of the time you'd expect most skins/pelts are white and not darker colours so I don't see a problem there, especially since the wildlings we've seen so far were on scouting duty where you're supposed to be stealthy  | ||
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Syphonix
Belgium26 Posts
Suddenly its Jons fault that Quorin's party gets caught. Robb forsaking his mariage pact before he has sex with someone (who btw has no influence whatsoever), instead of doing it afterward sinds it would be 'the right thing to do'. Arya's somewhat lacking her witty nature imo. And doesn't seem traumatized by her current situation and recent events at all (not that there is a lot to be traumatized about =/), which in the books is probably some of the reason why she forgot about Tywin at that instant. Caitlyn randomly releasing Jaime... Sinds she got no news from Winterfell about Bran & Rickon. Stannis's decisions seem a bit fishy to me aswell.. But cant quite point out why. It doesn't really feel like "he's obeying the 'law', and just does what he wants" kinda thing. My point being, why change the characters aswell as the events. Isn't the series supposed to be another medium to lure people in the ASoIaF world. So, why boil the story down to something thats just inferior. It more and more is starting to feels like going to see a vampire movie, but getting twilight. I do still enjoy the story at this point regardless, but if anything its driven by the curiosity of how they'll handle/mend things. Also, how did 'the lord'o'bones' know Ned was dead? xD | ||
Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Unfortunately that's another year... | ||
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Attican
Denmark531 Posts
On May 22 2012 06:03 Live2Win wrote: I just can't wait for the red wedding... Man I'm going to be f5'ing that thread all day Unfortunately that's another year... The rage, it will be glorious to witness. | ||
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Bellazuk
Canada146 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
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scudst0rm
Canada1149 Posts
On May 22 2012 06:52 KOFgokuon wrote: probably 2 years, a storm of swords will be 2 seasons, and that occurs closer to the end of the book if i recall right. They're not going to cut the book directly in half though, because the first half of ASOS is relatively slow compared to the second half. I would imagine a lot of the big events past the half way point to be at the end of season 3 (RW, maybe even Joffs wedding) | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On May 22 2012 03:56 chillpenguin wrote: Anyone else disappointed with the Wildling's "uniforms"? They look like they raided Empire Strikes Back's wardrobe from the Hoth Scenes. I always pictured them to be wearing like all kinds of random animal skins and such, kinda like what Tyrion's hill tribes looked like. Instead they all have this same L.L. Bean fuzzy white parka. I'm a lot more disappointed with the way the ironborn look. I imagined them as essentially vikings. bearded, wearing rags and skins and some loose armor they collected from corpses. Instead they have a uniform, most are clean shaven and just seem so plain and not intimidating. | ||
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Abysus
United States67 Posts
On May 22 2012 07:07 scudst0rm wrote: They're not going to cut the book directly in half though, because the first half of ASOS is relatively slow compared to the second half. I would imagine a lot of the big events past the half way point to be at the end of season 3 (RW, maybe even Joffs wedding) Just looked it up, the red wedding is about ~63%(page 700 of 1100 us paperback). Considering the last thing arya does in clash is escape harrenhal, and catelyn interrogating jaime is the clash ending for that location they are a becoming a bit ahead of the ending and can easily make it to the red wedding being the season finale of s3. Also the battle of blackwater bay is the end of clash too, which is the next episode. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On May 22 2012 02:58 Geo.Rion wrote: well yeah, as it stands Tyrion's "smart" move is to order wildfire.... which has been ordered already... soo... he does nothing clever in the defense of the city actually rofl, yup. They butchered his whole rivalry with Cersei and great ideas that saved the city. Poor Tyrion. | ||
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brian
United States9642 Posts
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moopie
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Abysus
United States67 Posts
On May 22 2012 08:11 moopie wrote: Oberyn isn't a swordsman. He's a spearman. Then its a good thing a swordsman was never mentioned in that jaime-brienne exchange. It was whether brienne could beat him in a "fight" and only 3 people in the realm would have a chance to do that. Also one thing I don't think has been made that obvious to those just watching the show is how much a valyrian sword helps. Although none of the top tier fighters being thrown around even have one, cept for I guess brienne later. | ||
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