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When the red wedding comes they will be to shocked to rage.
There is no statistics of the greatest swordsmen or fighters. But for the purpose of making a list people to be considered should be. And I'm just going to spam out names I can think of.
+ Show Spoiler [List] +Syrio Forrel
*Gregor Clegane
*Sandor Clegane
*Jaime Lannister
*Barristan Selmy
*Oberyn Martell (The Red Viper)
*Garlan Tyrell
*Loras Tyrell
Brienne of Tarth
*Khal Drogo (I wasn't going to include people in Essos but this is Khal Drogo despite beeing a screamer)
*Victarion Greyjoy
Andrik (The Unsmilling)
Gerold Dayne (Darkstar)
Bronn (Son of you wouldn't know him)
*Greatjon Umber
Smalljon Umber
Thoros of Myr
*Qhorin Halfhand
Balon Swann
Mandon Moore
Meryn Trant
*Areo Hotah
Robar Royce
Lyle Crakehall
Eddard Stark
If you can think of more PM me or type it in the thread and I can add them.
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There would be a lot more than 3 anyway who could put up a good fight vs Jamie and possibly beat him (and are alive as of him saying that line in the show).
Oberyn, Gregor, Sandor, Brienne, Barristan, Mance, Bronn, Areo Hotah, Loras Tyrell, Garlan Tyrell, Strong Belwas, Qhorin.
There's probably more I'm forgetting.
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Randyll Tarly, Bryden Tully, Strong Belwas, Mallister Brothers, Mance, and Yohn Royce if were going to go a bit deeper into the pool of fighters.
Also before the end of the series I have a feeling we'll get a few more names from the Golden Company in their campaign in westeros.
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On May 22 2012 08:40 moopie wrote:
There would be a lot more than 3 anyway who could put up a good fight vs Jamie and possibly beat him (and are alive as of him saying that line in the show).
Oberyn, Gregor, Sandor, Brienne, Barristan, Mance, Bronn, Areo Hotah, Loras Tyrell, Garlan Tyrell, Strong Bulwas, Qhorin.
There's probably more I'm forgetting.
Brienne is good for a woman but remember that she was on equal footing against a weakened and chained Jaime, she wouldn't last too long in a fair fight.
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On May 22 2012 08:46 GranDim wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 08:40 moopie wrote:
There would be a lot more than 3 anyway who could put up a good fight vs Jamie and possibly beat him (and are alive as of him saying that line in the show).
Oberyn, Gregor, Sandor, Brienne, Barristan, Mance, Bronn, Areo Hotah, Loras Tyrell, Garlan Tyrell, Strong Bulwas, Qhorin.
There's probably more I'm forgetting. Brienne is good for a woman but remember that she was on equal footing against a weakened and chained Jaime, she wouldn't last too long in a fair fight.
If I remember correctly she also was holding back too, because killing him would be really really bad.
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yeah i would put the hound mance bronn loras and garlan an equal tier under oberyn gregor barristan and qhorin
then brienne under them
probably qhorin on the 2nd tier
none of them for any good reason other than the respect i perceive everyone else has for them
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You can't really put loras and garlan on the same tier since loras himself says garlan is a better swordsman than himself.
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On May 22 2012 08:50 Abysus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 08:46 GranDim wrote:On May 22 2012 08:40 moopie wrote:
There would be a lot more than 3 anyway who could put up a good fight vs Jamie and possibly beat him (and are alive as of him saying that line in the show).
Oberyn, Gregor, Sandor, Brienne, Barristan, Mance, Bronn, Areo Hotah, Loras Tyrell, Garlan Tyrell, Strong Bulwas, Qhorin.
There's probably more I'm forgetting. Brienne is good for a woman but remember that she was on equal footing against a weakened and chained Jaime, she wouldn't last too long in a fair fight. If I remember correctly she also was holding back too, because killing him would be really really bad.
she also said to herself how good Jaimie Lannister was when he was chained and considering he had muscular atrophy since he was a prisoner for so long.
Jaime at full health >>>>>> brienne.
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On May 22 2012 08:40 moopie wrote:
There would be a lot more than 3 anyway who could put up a good fight vs Jamie and possibly beat him (and are alive as of him saying that line in the show).
Oberyn, Gregor, Sandor, Brienne, Barristan, Mance, Bronn, Areo Hotah, Loras Tyrell, Garlan Tyrell, Strong Belwas, Qhorin.
There's probably more I'm forgetting.
Barristan Selmy said in the books when he was training new knights for Daenaerys that, some kid that he was training was the best natural swordsman he ever saw since Jaimie Lannister.
So not arguing, but I always got the impression that Jaime Lannister was pretty much the best swordsman in the books at that time aside from maybe Barristan selmy in his prime.
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Jaime is supposed to be the absolute best swordsman in the series, or at least the best known one. Bronn might be equal or better.
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On May 22 2012 09:06 jj33 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 08:40 moopie wrote:
There would be a lot more than 3 anyway who could put up a good fight vs Jamie and possibly beat him (and are alive as of him saying that line in the show).
Oberyn, Gregor, Sandor, Brienne, Barristan, Mance, Bronn, Areo Hotah, Loras Tyrell, Garlan Tyrell, Strong Belwas, Qhorin.
There's probably more I'm forgetting. Barristan Selmy said in the books when he was training new knights for Daenaerys that, some kid that he was training was the best natural swordsman he ever saw since Jaimie Lannister. So not arguing, but I always got the impression that Jaime Lannister was pretty much the best swordsman in the books at that time aside from maybe Barristan selmy in his prime.
Problem there is natural can be misleading, and Barristan in his later years probably didnt travel much. People like garlan who hadn't entered tournies he'd be in the dark about. Mance he definitely would of never seen fight, etc. However, in his prime Jaime probably is the best swordsman that is currently alive.
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On May 22 2012 09:11 Abysus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 09:06 jj33 wrote:On May 22 2012 08:40 moopie wrote:
There would be a lot more than 3 anyway who could put up a good fight vs Jamie and possibly beat him (and are alive as of him saying that line in the show).
Oberyn, Gregor, Sandor, Brienne, Barristan, Mance, Bronn, Areo Hotah, Loras Tyrell, Garlan Tyrell, Strong Belwas, Qhorin.
There's probably more I'm forgetting. Barristan Selmy said in the books when he was training new knights for Daenaerys that, some kid that he was training was the best natural swordsman he ever saw since Jaimie Lannister. So not arguing, but I always got the impression that Jaime Lannister was pretty much the best swordsman in the books at that time aside from maybe Barristan selmy in his prime. Problem there is natural can be misleading, and Barristan in his later years probably didnt travel much. People like garlan who hadn't entered tournies he'd be in the dark about. Mance he definitely would of never seen fight, etc. However, in his prime Jaime probably is the best swordsman that is currently alive.
No disagreements, just conveying how I interpreted Jaimie's skills in reading the books. It just seemed even though we never really see him battle, that he is just the best. And he knows it as he's always challenging people 1on1 and nobody seems to want to take him on
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I am pretty sure Randyl Tarly is underrated, the guy is the badass of the seven kingdom.
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On May 22 2012 09:18 GranDim wrote:
I am pretty sure Randyl Tarly is underrated, the guy is the badass of the seven kingdom.
As I mentioned earlier about Valyrian steel being a crutch, I think Tarly might be a prime example. He is no doubt a good swordsman, and a fantastic commander, but being elite tier is prolly not correct. He was in many wars and battle, but never mentioned by characters as an elite swordsman like Jaime, Selmy, Arthur Dayne, etc are.
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On May 22 2012 09:14 jj33 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 09:11 Abysus wrote:On May 22 2012 09:06 jj33 wrote:On May 22 2012 08:40 moopie wrote:
There would be a lot more than 3 anyway who could put up a good fight vs Jamie and possibly beat him (and are alive as of him saying that line in the show).
Oberyn, Gregor, Sandor, Brienne, Barristan, Mance, Bronn, Areo Hotah, Loras Tyrell, Garlan Tyrell, Strong Belwas, Qhorin.
There's probably more I'm forgetting. Barristan Selmy said in the books when he was training new knights for Daenaerys that, some kid that he was training was the best natural swordsman he ever saw since Jaimie Lannister. So not arguing, but I always got the impression that Jaime Lannister was pretty much the best swordsman in the books at that time aside from maybe Barristan selmy in his prime. Problem there is natural can be misleading, and Barristan in his later years probably didnt travel much. People like garlan who hadn't entered tournies he'd be in the dark about. Mance he definitely would of never seen fight, etc. However, in his prime Jaime probably is the best swordsman that is currently alive. No disagreements, just conveying how I interpreted Jaimie's skills in reading the books. It just seemed even though we never really see him battle, that he is just the best. And he knows it as he's always challenging people 1on1 and nobody seems to want to take him on
he doesnt at some point confess being afraid of single combat with gregor?
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On May 22 2012 09:36 Gene wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 09:14 jj33 wrote:On May 22 2012 09:11 Abysus wrote:On May 22 2012 09:06 jj33 wrote:On May 22 2012 08:40 moopie wrote:
There would be a lot more than 3 anyway who could put up a good fight vs Jamie and possibly beat him (and are alive as of him saying that line in the show).
Oberyn, Gregor, Sandor, Brienne, Barristan, Mance, Bronn, Areo Hotah, Loras Tyrell, Garlan Tyrell, Strong Belwas, Qhorin.
There's probably more I'm forgetting. Barristan Selmy said in the books when he was training new knights for Daenaerys that, some kid that he was training was the best natural swordsman he ever saw since Jaimie Lannister. So not arguing, but I always got the impression that Jaime Lannister was pretty much the best swordsman in the books at that time aside from maybe Barristan selmy in his prime. Problem there is natural can be misleading, and Barristan in his later years probably didnt travel much. People like garlan who hadn't entered tournies he'd be in the dark about. Mance he definitely would of never seen fight, etc. However, in his prime Jaime probably is the best swordsman that is currently alive. No disagreements, just conveying how I interpreted Jaimie's skills in reading the books. It just seemed even though we never really see him battle, that he is just the best. And he knows it as he's always challenging people 1on1 and nobody seems to want to take him on he doesnt at some point confess being afraid of single combat with gregor?
I think he said that Gregor, Sandor, and Robert in his prime were stronger than himself though not necessarily more proficient swordsman.
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On May 22 2012 09:36 Gene wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 09:14 jj33 wrote:On May 22 2012 09:11 Abysus wrote:On May 22 2012 09:06 jj33 wrote:On May 22 2012 08:40 moopie wrote:
There would be a lot more than 3 anyway who could put up a good fight vs Jamie and possibly beat him (and are alive as of him saying that line in the show).
Oberyn, Gregor, Sandor, Brienne, Barristan, Mance, Bronn, Areo Hotah, Loras Tyrell, Garlan Tyrell, Strong Belwas, Qhorin.
There's probably more I'm forgetting. Barristan Selmy said in the books when he was training new knights for Daenaerys that, some kid that he was training was the best natural swordsman he ever saw since Jaimie Lannister. So not arguing, but I always got the impression that Jaime Lannister was pretty much the best swordsman in the books at that time aside from maybe Barristan selmy in his prime. Problem there is natural can be misleading, and Barristan in his later years probably didnt travel much. People like garlan who hadn't entered tournies he'd be in the dark about. Mance he definitely would of never seen fight, etc. However, in his prime Jaime probably is the best swordsman that is currently alive. No disagreements, just conveying how I interpreted Jaimie's skills in reading the books. It just seemed even though we never really see him battle, that he is just the best. And he knows it as he's always challenging people 1on1 and nobody seems to want to take him on he doesnt at some point confess being afraid of single combat with gregor?
I don't remember, but can you blame him. Gregor wasn't fear because of his skill, he was feared because he was a freak of nature
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yeah, which is a huge asset in swordfighting I'd assume :D :D
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Did anyone else see the three whores in the last episode? xD
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no, and I just watched it too  I could have used with some more You know nothing, Jon Snow.
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