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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
October 31 2011 18:34 GMT
#1341
Not enough zombies . I do enjoy the drama side but I loved season one when they were in the city it was zombies pretty much all the time. I really hope it picks up as the season progresses.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
MooseyFate
Profile Joined February 2011
United States237 Posts
October 31 2011 18:43 GMT
#1342
I recently re-watched the Pilot episode. Everything (the pacing, the cinematography, the directing) felt like I was watching a movie and that's how I remember feeling the first time I saw it last year. With my friends being huge fans of the comics, the hype was huge for me and it actually exceeded my expectations by a lot. I rarely enjoy TV dramas so I don't watch them often, preferring to watch movies. This show actually had my attention. With the 5-6th episodes, I was a little concerned for the path they were headed down, but I was excited for the next season.

When I heard about Frank being booted off the show, I was very concerned with how it would effect the final product.

AMC had one of the best shows on "regular" cable. Better than what a lot of premium cable channels (HBO, Showtime, etc) had at the time. Now they have Lost with zombies (and not that many).
The only way this show could possibly redeem itself for me is to have all but one or two characters die off and completely change directions with the plot.

For everyone saying " if you want tons of zombies, go watch Dawn of the Dead!", that is not the issue. The show has no direction anymore, and no x-factor. AMC made the change for financial reasons, not creative ones, and it killed the show for me and a lot of folks I know who were fans of the first season (especially the first 3-4 episodes). GG.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
October 31 2011 18:47 GMT
#1343
On November 01 2011 02:52 relyt wrote:
are they ever gonna show what happened to Merle?


Of course they will. Merle is probably the most talked character to be honest, lol. I'm also eager to see how Merle and Daryl will react when they meet each other again.
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
October 31 2011 18:58 GMT
#1344
+ Show Spoiler [comic book] +
In light of this past episode, anyone else thinks Shane might be the Governor ? omgomg
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
RastaMonsta
Profile Joined October 2011
304 Posts
October 31 2011 20:31 GMT
#1345
I thought season 1 was great. I do admit that season 2 is starting off slow, but i thought the third episode was great. Dramatic ending with Shane
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 20:46:33
October 31 2011 20:42 GMT
#1346
On November 01 2011 03:58 tyr wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [comic book] +
In light of this past episode, anyone else thinks Shane might be the Governor ? omgomg


I don't see that happening, I think that the show is just:

+ Show Spoiler [Comic Spoiler] +
Taking a slower and more gradual approach to Shane's eventual breakdown as opposed to the comic's sudden snap to trying to kill his best friend. I actually like the way they're handling it better, it was super sudden in the comics and here the Rick/Shane relationship is being given more weight so that when it eventually does break down(assuming it does), there's more of an impact.



On November 01 2011 03:43 MooseyFate wrote:
I recently re-watched the Pilot episode. Everything (the pacing, the cinematography, the directing) felt like I was watching a movie and that's how I remember feeling the first time I saw it last year. With my friends being huge fans of the comics, the hype was huge for me and it actually exceeded my expectations by a lot. I rarely enjoy TV dramas so I don't watch them often, preferring to watch movies. This show actually had my attention. With the 5-6th episodes, I was a little concerned for the path they were headed down, but I was excited for the next season.

When I heard about Frank being booted off the show, I was very concerned with how it would effect the final product.

AMC had one of the best shows on "regular" cable. Better than what a lot of premium cable channels (HBO, Showtime, etc) had at the time. Now they have Lost with zombies (and not that many).
The only way this show could possibly redeem itself for me is to have all but one or two characters die off and completely change directions with the plot.

For everyone saying " if you want tons of zombies, go watch Dawn of the Dead!", that is not the issue. The show has no direction anymore, and no x-factor. AMC made the change for financial reasons, not creative ones, and it killed the show for me and a lot of folks I know who were fans of the first season (especially the first 3-4 episodes). GG.


I don't really see how it has any less direction than it did in season 1 and "x-factor" is such a throw-away term, I can't respond to it. The show has been going at a pretty steady pace so far, it's got about as much direction as it did in season 1, the end goal that the survivors are working towards is essentially a safer place to call home, there is no major end goal in sight right now, the comics were and still are largely the same way. I don't really a major difference in quality between seasons 1 and 2, they've both been pretty solid.
Pyskee
Profile Joined April 2011
United States620 Posts
October 31 2011 20:46 GMT
#1347
Looks like Shane has finally broken bad.

Oh wait, wrong show.
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
October 31 2011 21:38 GMT
#1348
On October 31 2011 23:27 Karshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 22:31 Capped wrote:
Again, for the last time. If you want a zombie flick, go and watch a movie.

This is a TV drama set in a zombie apocalypse, I dont get why you all cant understand this and keep crying "no zombies no zombies!!" and "bad acting, too much drama" ...its a drama?

I don't think too many people are arguing this... the problem is, the drama half of things can be pretty cringe-worthy at times. Not necessarily bad acting, but bad writing.

"He talked about the deer. He talked about the deer."

Also the whole Dale/Andrea thing is getting very stale and seems directionless, and I'm actually in the minority that still likes both characters.

And this is a very minor nitpick, but the actress playing Lori was driving me crazy last night. During the scene outside where she was talking to Rick about Carl's future, she spent half the scene with her hand covering her mouth. It looked stupid and very unnatural... it was all I could focus on.


Oh I hated the "He talked about the deer!" part. That was soooooooo bad. Such terrible writing.
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
October 31 2011 22:01 GMT
#1349
Was I the only one hoping Lori would:

+ Show Spoiler +
tell them to not operate on the son? Not that I dislike the kid....well that much....just seems like she was right in that things probably won't be getting better anytime soon and he would be better off.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 22:15:47
October 31 2011 22:15 GMT
#1350
I like the new girl from the house they are staying at. I wish they had cast her as Lori instead of Dr. Tancredi from Prison Break. It would have been much better to go with an "unknown" especially since Lori has a southern accent. I don't see her as Lori. I see her as an actress playing Lori, and that completely destroys the illusion of television.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
October 31 2011 22:17 GMT
#1351
On October 31 2011 19:41 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 19:13 Sub40APM wrote:
Yea. AMC wanted more money so they fired. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/walking-dead-what-happened-fired-221449


well at least now we know why the second season sucked so much so far -_-


Just finished reading that and if its all true, AMC execs are idiots.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
October 31 2011 22:49 GMT
#1352
On November 01 2011 07:15 BlackJack wrote:
I like the new girl from the house they are staying at. I wish they had cast her as Lori instead of Dr. Tancredi from Prison Break. It would have been much better to go with an "unknown" especially since Lori has a southern accent. I don't see her as Lori. I see her as an actress playing Lori, and that completely destroys the illusion of television.


I've seen the other girl on Chuck, where she had a British accent, so it would be the same for me in that regard, only I've managed to see them both as their respective characters so far.
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
November 01 2011 00:46 GMT
#1353
This show is definitely getting boring as fuck but about the whole Otis/Shane thing, I would've done the same thing. The survival of my loved ones and I are vastly more important than that of some fat dude that I just met.
On my way...
NobleDog
Profile Joined May 2010
United States65 Posts
November 01 2011 01:07 GMT
#1354
The show has always walked a knife's edge for me; You have the zombie action and then you have the soap opera relationship stuff. I have wanted more zombies since the beginning but the action/soap opera mixture was okay for me.

It seems that the soap opera part has gotten more boring. That's bad. If half the show isn't compelling that bodes ill.

I'm still watching it. Don't get me wrong. That's a testament to my affinity for zombies, though.
Live free or die
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 01:28:57
November 01 2011 01:28 GMT
#1355
The stupidity in this series is just too fucking much. It's unacceptable for the characters to not carry any bombs or molotov cocktails. I can ignore the fact that zombies would probably never work because no parasite in the world would manage to stand up, much less walk but, I just can't force myself to care about people who are too stupid to defend themselves against deaf and crippled zombies using bombs.

Who cares if these people survive, they're all useless.
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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 03:36:39
November 01 2011 03:31 GMT
#1356
On November 01 2011 10:28 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
The stupidity in this series is just too fucking much. It's unacceptable for the characters to not carry any bombs or molotov cocktails. I can ignore the fact that zombies would probably never work because no parasite in the world would manage to stand up, much less walk but, I just can't force myself to care about people who are too stupid to defend themselves against deaf and crippled zombies using bombs.

Who cares if these people survive, they're all useless.


Your gripes honestly sound like an issue with the zombie genre altogether. Welcome to suspension of disbelief, where parasites manage to stand up and walk. Whenever you watch a sci-fi or fantasy film/show, do you go out of your way to debunk the science of it? If not, then why even bring it up here?

It's unacceptable for them to not carry molotov cocktails an bombs when they have trouble finding guns and bullets? I'm sorry, let me urinate some alcohol into this bottle so I can create a molotov cocktail. These are ordinary people, few of them even have firearm training, they didn't have bombs lying around when the outbreak happened and the assumption in these scenarios is that panic lead to a worldwide collapse.

Welcome to the zombie genre, I guess it's not for you.
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
November 01 2011 04:24 GMT
#1357
On November 01 2011 12:31 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 10:28 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
The stupidity in this series is just too fucking much. It's unacceptable for the characters to not carry any bombs or molotov cocktails. I can ignore the fact that zombies would probably never work because no parasite in the world would manage to stand up, much less walk but, I just can't force myself to care about people who are too stupid to defend themselves against deaf and crippled zombies using bombs.

Who cares if these people survive, they're all useless.


Your gripes honestly sound like an issue with the zombie genre altogether. Welcome to suspension of disbelief, where parasites manage to stand up and walk. Whenever you watch a sci-fi or fantasy film/show, do you go out of your way to debunk the science of it? If not, then why even bring it up here?

It's unacceptable for them to not carry molotov cocktails an bombs when they have trouble finding guns and bullets? I'm sorry, let me urinate some alcohol into this bottle so I can create a molotov cocktail. These are ordinary people, few of them even have firearm training, they didn't have bombs lying around when the outbreak happened and the assumption in these scenarios is that panic lead to a worldwide collapse.

Welcome to the zombie genre, I guess it's not for you.


I'm so sorry, what was I thinking. Of course, who in his right mind would think about using bombs when going up against hundreds of zombies that gather around in gigantic clumps. Certainly, filling a glass bottle with gasoline requires years of expert training. I forgot how it's common sense that zombies drink gasoline so naturally, there wouldn't be any left in the tanks of those cars on that jammed road.
Seriously, how the fuck could I have ever assumed that police officers in america would possess knowledge about home-made bombs?

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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
November 01 2011 04:29 GMT
#1358
On November 01 2011 13:24 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 12:31 Mordiford wrote:
On November 01 2011 10:28 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
The stupidity in this series is just too fucking much. It's unacceptable for the characters to not carry any bombs or molotov cocktails. I can ignore the fact that zombies would probably never work because no parasite in the world would manage to stand up, much less walk but, I just can't force myself to care about people who are too stupid to defend themselves against deaf and crippled zombies using bombs.

Who cares if these people survive, they're all useless.


Your gripes honestly sound like an issue with the zombie genre altogether. Welcome to suspension of disbelief, where parasites manage to stand up and walk. Whenever you watch a sci-fi or fantasy film/show, do you go out of your way to debunk the science of it? If not, then why even bring it up here?

It's unacceptable for them to not carry molotov cocktails an bombs when they have trouble finding guns and bullets? I'm sorry, let me urinate some alcohol into this bottle so I can create a molotov cocktail. These are ordinary people, few of them even have firearm training, they didn't have bombs lying around when the outbreak happened and the assumption in these scenarios is that panic lead to a worldwide collapse.

Welcome to the zombie genre, I guess it's not for you.


I'm so sorry, what was I thinking. Of course, who in his right mind would think about using bombs when going up against hundreds of zombies that gather around in gigantic clumps. Certainly, filling a glass bottle with gasoline requires years of expert training. I forgot how it's common sense that zombies drink gasoline so naturally, there wouldn't be any left in the tanks of those cars on that jammed road.
Seriously, how the fuck could I have ever assumed that police officers in america would possess knowledge about home-made bombs?



It's a pretty obvious trade-off, utilizing gasoline for weaponry limits their ability to travel and has the potential of attracting more zombies. It's not that big of a deal, and certainly isn't "unacceptable" for them to not carry bombs everywhere, Rick even mentioned that he didn't want to use his gun earlier in the season to avoid making noise.

Also, once again, this criticism could be applied to every piece of zombie fiction, "Why doesn't everyone just have 20 bombs on them, ready to use at any time?", maybe because it's not that simple and it could be counterproductive considering it's potential of attracting a larger horde.
Pyskee
Profile Joined April 2011
United States620 Posts
November 01 2011 04:32 GMT
#1359
On November 01 2011 13:24 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 12:31 Mordiford wrote:
On November 01 2011 10:28 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
The stupidity in this series is just too fucking much. It's unacceptable for the characters to not carry any bombs or molotov cocktails. I can ignore the fact that zombies would probably never work because no parasite in the world would manage to stand up, much less walk but, I just can't force myself to care about people who are too stupid to defend themselves against deaf and crippled zombies using bombs.

Who cares if these people survive, they're all useless.


Your gripes honestly sound like an issue with the zombie genre altogether. Welcome to suspension of disbelief, where parasites manage to stand up and walk. Whenever you watch a sci-fi or fantasy film/show, do you go out of your way to debunk the science of it? If not, then why even bring it up here?

It's unacceptable for them to not carry molotov cocktails an bombs when they have trouble finding guns and bullets? I'm sorry, let me urinate some alcohol into this bottle so I can create a molotov cocktail. These are ordinary people, few of them even have firearm training, they didn't have bombs lying around when the outbreak happened and the assumption in these scenarios is that panic lead to a worldwide collapse.

Welcome to the zombie genre, I guess it's not for you.


I'm so sorry, what was I thinking. Of course, who in his right mind would think about using bombs when going up against hundreds of zombies that gather around in gigantic clumps. Certainly, filling a glass bottle with gasoline requires years of expert training. I forgot how it's common sense that zombies drink gasoline so naturally, there wouldn't be any left in the tanks of those cars on that jammed road.
Seriously, how the fuck could I have ever assumed that police officers in america would possess knowledge about home-made bombs?


How do you know fire even hurts the zombies?
"If you really don't give a shit what brand you chew, chew Stride." - Liquid'Tyler. Gives shoutouts like a boss.
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
November 01 2011 04:46 GMT
#1360
On November 01 2011 13:29 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 13:24 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
On November 01 2011 12:31 Mordiford wrote:
On November 01 2011 10:28 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
The stupidity in this series is just too fucking much. It's unacceptable for the characters to not carry any bombs or molotov cocktails. I can ignore the fact that zombies would probably never work because no parasite in the world would manage to stand up, much less walk but, I just can't force myself to care about people who are too stupid to defend themselves against deaf and crippled zombies using bombs.

Who cares if these people survive, they're all useless.


Your gripes honestly sound like an issue with the zombie genre altogether. Welcome to suspension of disbelief, where parasites manage to stand up and walk. Whenever you watch a sci-fi or fantasy film/show, do you go out of your way to debunk the science of it? If not, then why even bring it up here?

It's unacceptable for them to not carry molotov cocktails an bombs when they have trouble finding guns and bullets? I'm sorry, let me urinate some alcohol into this bottle so I can create a molotov cocktail. These are ordinary people, few of them even have firearm training, they didn't have bombs lying around when the outbreak happened and the assumption in these scenarios is that panic lead to a worldwide collapse.

Welcome to the zombie genre, I guess it's not for you.


I'm so sorry, what was I thinking. Of course, who in his right mind would think about using bombs when going up against hundreds of zombies that gather around in gigantic clumps. Certainly, filling a glass bottle with gasoline requires years of expert training. I forgot how it's common sense that zombies drink gasoline so naturally, there wouldn't be any left in the tanks of those cars on that jammed road.
Seriously, how the fuck could I have ever assumed that police officers in america would possess knowledge about home-made bombs?



It's a pretty obvious trade-off, utilizing gasoline for weaponry limits their ability to travel and has the potential of attracting more zombies. It's not that big of a deal, and certainly isn't "unacceptable" for them to not carry bombs everywhere, Rick even mentioned that he didn't want to use his gun earlier in the season to avoid making noise.

Also, once again, this criticism could be applied to every piece of zombie fiction, "Why doesn't everyone just have 20 bombs on them, ready to use at any time?", maybe because it's not that simple and it could be counterproductive considering it's potential of attracting a larger horde.


It's a super bad trade, a bottle of gasoline for 50 dead zombies, medical equipment, more gasoline, metal, car batteries...

I'm so sorry, I just can't think straight at the moment.
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