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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book. | ||
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Rexking
United States45 Posts
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Hashbaz
United States340 Posts
Personally I like that zombie encounters are few and far between. | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
I like the show  | ||
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Sub40APM
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But even when you accept the universe they are in the problems with writing is noticeable. Think about all of Rick's elaborate preparations to steal a truck to get out of Atlanta. Now compare that with Shane's 'plan' to get medical supplies. Or think about how the zombie heard just walked through the highway, within inches of all the deliciously smelling humans. Or think about that deer. The woods are full of slow moving zombies yet the deer lets a kid approach it without moving? Its just sloppy writing within the context of the Walking Dead Universe. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On November 01 2011 10:28 PepperoniPiZZa wrote: The stupidity in this series is just too fucking much. It's unacceptable for the characters to not carry any bombs or molotov cocktails. I can ignore the fact that zombies would probably never work because no parasite in the world would manage to stand up, much less walk but, I just can't force myself to care about people who are too stupid to defend themselves against deaf and crippled zombies using bombs. Who cares if these people survive, they're all useless. Lmfao at this guy, dude your hillarious. I thought the people constantly moaning about the show having too much drama, while it is a drama and still watching was bad. So, you take a bottle of gasoline (that probably equates to about 10~ miles or so) and light it, throw it at a zombie horde. Now, you have a flaming zombie horde on your ass. Have you not seen how they only die to heavy brain trauma? <-- This is a basic fact in 99% of all zombie movies. They would continue to chase and hunt you for a shitlong time if not just outright survive it to be honest. And yeah, bombs. Where would they get them from? You think police stations keep grenades, rpg's and nuclear warheads in them? "just in case" sorta thing? Any actual bomb is extremely hard to come by or make for that matter, given that any of them have the knowledge to do so which is again, unlikely. Now, lets say they get hold of some bombs and start tossin them around. 25 zombies -> grenade -> <BOOM> --> Huge fucking noise that attracts more and likely smoke signals to give them a helping hand in locating you. All of a sudden there are 100 more zombies from every angle and more coming, bombs still seem like a good idea? | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Not to mention how valuable fuel is in a world like that. | ||
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Therealdevil
Netherlands1021 Posts
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
And yeah, damn the season is starting off slow. I was glad to hear it's going to be 13 episodes instead of 6, but so far it just seems like they have 6 episodes of content stretched across 13. | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On November 01 2011 20:51 Subversive wrote:However I also think it may have been because he didn't want to kill another human being outright. Yes it's effectively the same and he's been taking pot-shots at zombies so far (and he's a cop) but most people wouldn't want to murder someone in cold blood. And while he still has the guilt of leaving the guy there to be torn apart and killed, it's probably easier than actually murdering him yourself. Just an idea anyway. To me at least, wounding him and leaving him for dead to be gruesomely eaten alive by zombies would make me feel more guilty than just shooting him cold dead, especially as he had risked his life to come with you and get the supplies needed, and also just saved your bacon not a few minutes prior. It's one of those situations nobody will ever fully understand, as it's never going to happen. In the heat of the moment, who knows what he might of thought! | ||
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Krohm
Canada1857 Posts
Not to mention people keep ignoring how quickly Shane's character flip-flopped. | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On November 01 2011 21:32 Krohm wrote: People in this thread are starting to sound so pretentious. You're all just looking way too deep into something that isn't there. Given how badly this show is written I highly doubt the characters are even anywhere as complex as everyone here is trying to make it sound. Not to mention people keep ignoring how quickly Shane's character flip-flopped. In moments of extreme stress, people aren't always consistent. When he thought he didn't really have much hope of getting away, he urged his partner to go. When he saw a chance to survive at someone elses cost, he acted in his own self-interest. To each their own, but to me this didn't jar and I don't know why you're so fixated on it. The writing has taken a fall though, that much I'll agree on. | ||
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Mash2
United States132 Posts
On November 01 2011 21:52 Subversive wrote: In moments of extreme stress, people aren't always consistent. When he thought he didn't really have much hope of getting away, he urged his partner to go. When he saw a chance to survive at someone elses cost, he acted in his own self-interest. To each their own, but to me this didn't jar and I don't know why you're so fixated on it. The writing has taken a fall though, that much I'll agree on. How has the writing taken a fall? It has been shitty on a pretty consistent basis throughout the entire series. It had no where to fall from. The only reason this show hasn't been cancelled is because there are so many people (me included) that will watch a tv series about zombies regardless of how bad it is. | ||
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MooseyFate
United States237 Posts
[QUOTE]On November 01 2011 05:42 Mordiford wrote: [QUOTE]On November 01 2011 03:58 tyr wrote: + Show Spoiler [comic book] + In light of this past episode, anyone else thinks Shane might be the Governor ? omgomg I don't see that happening, I think that the show is just: + Show Spoiler [Comic Spoiler] + Taking a slower and more gradual approach to Shane's eventual breakdown as opposed to the comic's sudden snap to trying to kill his best friend. I actually like the way they're handling it better, it was super sudden in the comics and here the Rick/Shane relationship is being given more weight so that when it eventually does break down(assuming it does), there's more of an impact. [QUOTE]On November 01 2011 03:43 MooseyFate wrote: I recently re-watched the Pilot episode. Everything (the pacing, the cinematography, the directing) felt like I was watching a movie and that's how I remember feeling the first time I saw it last year. With my friends being huge fans of the comics, the hype was huge for me and it actually exceeded my expectations by a lot. I rarely enjoy TV dramas so I don't watch them often, preferring to watch movies. This show actually had my attention. With the 5-6th episodes, I was a little concerned for the path they were headed down, but I was excited for the next season. When I heard about Frank being booted off the show, I was very concerned with how it would effect the final product. AMC had one of the best shows on "regular" cable. Better than what a lot of premium cable channels (HBO, Showtime, etc) had at the time. Now they have Lost with zombies (and not that many). The only way this show could possibly redeem itself for me is to have all but one or two characters die off and completely change directions with the plot. For everyone saying " if you want tons of zombies, go watch Dawn of the Dead!", that is not the issue. The show has no direction anymore, and no x-factor. AMC made the change for financial reasons, not creative ones, and it killed the show for me and a lot of folks I know who were fans of the first season (especially the first 3-4 episodes). GG. [/QUOTE] + Show Spoiler + I don't really see how it has any less direction than it did in season 1 and "x-factor" is such a throw-away term, I can't respond to it. The show has been going at a pretty steady pace so far, it's got about as much direction as it did in season 1, the end goal that the survivors are working towards is essentially a safer place to call home, there is no major end goal in sight right now, the comics were and still are largely the same way. I don't really a major difference in quality between seasons 1 and 2, they've both been pretty solid. Ill stand by my statement that AMC made huge changes to the show for financial reasons, NOT creative reasons, and the show has suffered creatively because of this decision. They had someone with an impressive pedigree leading the way (Darabont) who was emotionally invested in the show and the cast and crew obviously loved working with him because of his passion. Anyone who has been involved with high level dramatic production (Theatre, TV, Film) will tell you how important this is for the final product; almost as important (if not more so) than character dialogue or plot lines. I have no qualms with the decisions the Characters are making in the show, I'm just underwhelmed with the entire production now, and this wasn't the case last season. Not trying to change your opinion, just stating mine. | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On November 01 2011 22:01 Mash2 wrote: How has the writing taken a fall? It has been shitty on a pretty consistent basis throughout the entire series. It had no where to fall from. The only reason this show hasn't been cancelled is because there are so many people (me included) that will watch a tv series about zombies regardless of how bad it is. Well everyone is entitled to their opinion. Most people in here would disagree with you though, most liked season one and are finding two harder to like. I don't think zombies are as popular as you think they are, and I don't think that explains the success of season one. If they get significantly lower ratings this season, I'll be right. | ||
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Krohm
Canada1857 Posts
On November 01 2011 22:16 Subversive wrote: Well everyone is entitled to their opinion. Most people in here would disagree with you though, most liked season one and are finding two harder to like. I don't think zombies are as popular as you think they are, and I don't think that explains the success of season one. If they get significantly lower ratings this season, I'll be right. Season 1 was okay, and only the first 4 episodes as others have stated. The only reason I watched it along with almost anyone else is because of the zombie factor. People love zombies. | ||
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Xaggah
Canada45 Posts
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thane
United States407 Posts
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Sir.Kimmel
United States785 Posts
On November 01 2011 21:15 Nekovivie wrote: To me at least, wounding him and leaving him for dead to be gruesomely eaten alive by zombies would make me feel more guilty than just shooting him cold dead, especially as he had risked his life to come with you and get the supplies needed, and also just saved your bacon not a few minutes prior. It's one of those situations nobody will ever fully understand, as it's never going to happen. In the heat of the moment, who knows what he might of thought! He risked his life because he felt guilty.... it was his fault they were in the situation... and regarding the poll on why he didn't shoot Shane... because their entire purpose was to get the meds to save the boy... Otis knew the chances of his dying were rather high.. he did it because he felt guilty... and he died because he shot the boy... Not because Shane killed him... but because he put himself into that situation. | ||
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
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Hashbaz
United States340 Posts
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