[TV] The Walking Dead - Page 440

On February 11 2015 00:53 parkufarku wrote:


The "ninja zombie moment" might not seem like a kill that has a purpose on the surface, but if you think about it, it shows to reassure us that many important characters on the show can be killed off by a stray random zombie, even in seemingly safe places, at any moment, by a few seconds of lack of concentration. You might not like it, but it's actually not bad. It makes the show seem way more realistic. Not every important character has to have a glorified major drama-build up death.

On February 11 2015 04:47 Conti wrote:

The problem is that they've chosen the cheapest way possible to teach the viewers that everyone can die at any moment. There are incredibly major inconsistencies with the zombies, 95% of the time they are slow, moaning things made out of putty, and then suddenly they're teleporting right behind you and bite through your bones within a second. There's absolutely no rhyme or reason to it other than "We need this zombie to be silent and strong now", and that's just bad/lazy writing.

What's happening here is another case of a character being killed off so you can say "See? No one is safe!" and that's it. There's just so many ways they could have improved upon that death to make it meaningful instead of going for the routine of "Ninja zombie teleports right behind him, growls in his face and bites him within a second while he just stares and completely forgets how to fight back" that we've seen a million times now.

On February 11 2015 05:33 GreenHorizons wrote:


There have been several "ninja zombies" that were near misses too. Tyreese in particular has run into at least one other one. The pictures reminded him of the world that was gone which we all know for Tyreese was kind of a big deal. It completely makes sense that he might not notice some sound and hesitate defensively while so distracted.

The hallucinations could of been a result of the massive blood loss combined with low blood sugar levels from a lack of nutrition.

On February 11 2015 05:39 Conti wrote:

I don't mind the hallucinations at all, to be honest. They're an obvious way to give some cameos and present the thoughts and feelings of characters, which is just fine by me.

The issue is that Tyrese didn't check the house properly. They never do when the writing demands that they don't. Time and time again you see the characters checking every nook and cranny of a place, making sure there's no zombie, and time and time again you see a zombie suddenly standing in the middle of the room for no apparent reason. Without anyone noticing how they got there. You could pull off a trick like that once or twice, but not every other episode.

On February 11 2015 06:03 GreenHorizons wrote:



How often do you see a ProGamer make a mistake that "never happens" (Like forgetting an upgrade or letting one finish from a miskey or more on point where they don't move a harvester line because they are distracted elsewhere)

Shit happens, it wasn't even like the zombie came from nowhere. He clearly heard a zombie, but mistakenly thought it was secured in a room (kind of like misreading a scout).

Making the analogies I made I can't help but notice how similar the criticism of shows is like the criticism of players and play. Most of the people complaining couldn't do better if they wanted to, but are never shy about saying how they would of done something better. One doesn't need to be a pro to notice a bad play but the speculation about what should/could of been done differently or what the player was thinking is almost certainly built on a foundation of ignorance usually missing some underlying issue not easily displayed.

On February 11 2015 06:41 Conti wrote:

It's not about making small mistakes, it's about small mistakes conveniently leading to immediate, horrible deaths whenever the writing requires it. It's just hilariously bad how the same characters can fight off entire zombie hordes by hand if they have to in one scene, while being completely unable to fight back even one single zombie in another. There's simply no logic to it. If we'd keep things consistent, Tyrees would have been startled by the zombie, shoved him away (because they're all paperweights, unless they're not) and destroyed him. And yes, yes, there's always the possibility of a freak accident. But those freak accidents happen all the damn time in that show, so they're really not freak accidents anymore.

On February 11 2015 01:38 -Archangel- wrote:
Ninja zombie would be much more effective if normally zombies were not made of paper and as easily killed. If they keep breaking their own rules, of course people that watch the show are going to call them out on it.

On February 12 2015 14:19 killa_robot wrote:
The zombie wasn't silent, Tyresse was just really distracted by the pictures.

If you all want to complain, you could at least complain about something worth complaining about. Like the fact that the kid zombie was previously in a closed room, and mysteriously got out.

Also -1 black character because we got another one. It's kind of hilarious how consistent they are at doing this by now, lol.

On February 12 2015 17:10 -Archangel- wrote:

The whole set up was lame and breaking show internal rules. It is hard to take a show like this seriously when it does this often. I like Z nation more for this reason. They didn't try to present themselves as a serious show but another fun zombie show.
Walking Dead failed. They need better writing if they want to have both zombies and realistic drama together. It is too easy to lose suspension of disbelief.

On February 12 2015 14:19 killa_robot wrote:
Also -1 black character because we got another one. It's kind of hilarious how consistent they are at doing this by now, lol.

On February 12 2015 17:22 GreenHorizons wrote:


I think a lot of people are imposing their own interpretation of "rules" that don't necessarily match the shows actual world and 'rules'.

Tyreese has never been one that would of cleared a house on his own, he always relied on his brute strength. His being so distracted that a zombie could sneak up on him fits fine with how distraught he was to be in "this world" and how much he missed the pre-zombie world. And struggling to fight off the second zombie makes sense when you consider he shouldn't even have been standing after losing that much blood. And the zombie getting out of the room can be explained by pawing at the door long enough and just getting lucky like the first time a dog does it on their own.

On February 12 2015 14:19 killa_robot wrote:
The zombie wasn't silent, Tyresse was just really distracted by the pictures.

If you all want to complain, you could at least complain about something worth complaining about. Like the fact that the kid zombie was previously in a closed room, and mysteriously got out.

Also -1 black character because we got another one. It's kind of hilarious how consistent they are at doing this by now, lol.

On February 12 2015 21:33 Twisted wrote:
What's with this 'oh a black character dies because they can't have too many blacks on the show, they suck'? Two main characters died in recent episodes, a white girl and a black dude. Doesn't mean anything at all. Two main characters just died. Every time a black character dies we're gonna have this shit? If an Asian guy joins the show will you guys assume Glenn dies? If another cute redneck girl joins the show will you guys assume Maggie dies?

That distinction you guys are making is actually quite racist. Tyreese just died because they apparently thought they needed a dramatic moment this episode. The fact that he's black doesn't mean shit and it isn't some kind of conspiracy that they can't have too many blacks on the show. It was just Tyreese's time to go. The foreshadowing of his death has been going on in a couple of episodes. Him not willing to kill anyone, not liking the world currently, him pretty much giving up on life when he got bit with the talking to dead people thing. Come on already. /rant