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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 09 2015 03:12 GMT
#8761
The foreshadowing that was in this episode.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
SwARmZzz
Profile Joined June 2013
Canada193 Posts
February 09 2015 04:28 GMT
#8762
Weak premiere....
A whole episode just to kill off one character...
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
February 09 2015 04:40 GMT
#8763
Nooo tyrese! They were over their black people quota so with Noah and Morgan being back they had to kill off Bob and tyrese!
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Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
February 09 2015 05:56 GMT
#8764
I kind of feel like I want to drop Walking Dead even tho I like to finish what I started. Its a show without a clear goal and all the characters just lack personality. Hopefully Morgan is still bat shit crazy and can stir up the pot a little. If hes just another brooding badass zombie killer I think im done.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
February 09 2015 07:07 GMT
#8765
Loving the foreshadowing of...

+ Show Spoiler +
Negan... since Glenn picked up a baseball bat in this episode, houses in the community looked like they were bombed, some of the zombies have markings on their foreheads, the wall looked like it was rammed into, etc
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 07:36:49
February 09 2015 07:29 GMT
#8766
Terrible.

Weak way for Tyresse to go out. He's been one of the raiders for how long? Seems like he should know by now to at least clear the room, if not the house before getting complacently lost in a photograph...

I haven't read the comics, but from what I gathered from when Tyresse first appeared in the show, he's one of the more beloved characters. So I take it the show didn't do him justice, as I don't feel his development was well done at all. The build up to the death would've been perfect if used on a more powerful character. I just felt like they kinda ham-fisted a bunch of deceased characters in there for a guy who barely had a connection with the majority of them. I swear I must've seen Tyresse have like one conversation with the governor...

That death seemed much more suited for someone like Carol,Daryl, or perhaps even Michone.

4/10 premiere. Gains a few points for the neat twist. I totally thought the grave was for Beth at the beginning.
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jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
February 09 2015 09:46 GMT
#8767
+ Show Spoiler +
Terrible episode, just awful.

Tyrese gets bit and IMMEDIATELY goes insane, then promptly dies. Meanwhile, everyone else gives an update on their emotional status.

A low point for the show.
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
February 09 2015 14:50 GMT
#8768
Really well done episode, all things considered (There's no point in moaning about ninja zombies or main characters suddenly losing the ability to survive. That stupidity should be expected by now). Nice cameos and all. But man, sometimes I have the feeling that the writers think that there is a law out there that does not allow for more than one token black character to be on a show at a time. It's just so bizarre how they constantly kill off a black main character once another one shows up.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
February 09 2015 15:38 GMT
#8769
As others have said, there were clearly too many black dudes on the show. Gotta summon another stealthy ninja zombie to correct that mistake.
IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
February 09 2015 16:03 GMT
#8770
i loved this episode. I would be happy if the season continues like this , and from the trailers/sneak peeks it seems so.
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9290 Posts
February 09 2015 16:06 GMT
#8771
Great episode, wonder what's up with those mutilated corpses
You're now breathing manually
IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
February 09 2015 16:44 GMT
#8772
On February 10 2015 01:06 Sent. wrote:
Great episode, wonder what's up with those mutilated corpses

It seems the truck with them had a W printed on its side. W = wolves , there are wolves references appearing on this episode and the next one too , also I think the scavengers used wolves or animals to attack in the comic.

Btw David Morrissey was awesome as always
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42384 Posts
February 09 2015 17:12 GMT
#8773
God dammit TYREESE
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
February 09 2015 17:16 GMT
#8774
It was like the worst elements of TWD all baked into one episode to form a loaf of shit: inexplicable black-character death, needless naval gazing, useless melodrama, and unnecessary cameos. Not to mention, Tyrese goes insane within 60 seconds of getting bitten. Also, the story doesn't progress.
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 20:21:51
February 09 2015 20:21 GMT
#8775
This episode was sooo bad. 35 minutes of extra melodrama and stupid death. Even Beth's death made more sense. The screenwriters are crap, they need to be fired instantly. I think I am going to go back to comics and finish reading them and forget about this terrible show.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2551 Posts
February 09 2015 21:12 GMT
#8776
New black guy introduced -> black threshold superseded -> old black guy dies.
Wasn't even a good death. Nothing like "tainted meeeeaaat!" I really liked Tyreese too.
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parkufarku
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
882 Posts
February 10 2015 01:56 GMT
#8777
On February 10 2015 05:21 -Archangel- wrote:
This episode was sooo bad. 35 minutes of extra melodrama and stupid death. Even Beth's death made more sense. The screenwriters are crap, they need to be fired instantly. I think I am going to go back to comics and finish reading them and forget about this terrible show.


No Beth's death made less sense. Beth threw away her life by exacting revenge when it was already given that she was going back to the group. She knew, that at that point, that would've been death, and she did it anyway. Pretty much suicide for no good reason.

Tyreese's death is actually very rational, because it shows that solidified characters can get killed off easily by random zombie encounters. And it shows that no one is safe because 1 second of not focusing can lead to quick death. It also shows that amputation doesn't always save the person.
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
February 10 2015 13:05 GMT
#8778
On February 10 2015 10:56 parkufarku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 05:21 -Archangel- wrote:
This episode was sooo bad. 35 minutes of extra melodrama and stupid death. Even Beth's death made more sense. The screenwriters are crap, they need to be fired instantly. I think I am going to go back to comics and finish reading them and forget about this terrible show.


No Beth's death made less sense. Beth threw away her life by exacting revenge when it was already given that she was going back to the group. She knew, that at that point, that would've been death, and she did it anyway. Pretty much suicide for no good reason.

Tyreese's death is actually very rational, because it shows that solidified characters can get killed off easily by random zombie encounters. And it shows that no one is safe because 1 second of not focusing can lead to quick death. It also shows that amputation doesn't always save the person.


Beth's attempt to kill Dawn has nothing to do with revenge or getting back to the group; it is doing something right by killing the person who has systematically turned the entire place into a society that isn't based on trust but on who has utility and who is more manipulative. After all, she wanted to kill the doctor too when she was used in order to keep himself alive. Beth wouldn't have stopped and turned around for Dawn had she not mentioned Noah, and that action epitomizes why the hospital was so rotten. I actually agreed with what Beth wanted to do, and obviously dying wasn't part of the plan but shit happens.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
February 10 2015 14:45 GMT
#8779
On February 10 2015 10:56 parkufarku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 05:21 -Archangel- wrote:
This episode was sooo bad. 35 minutes of extra melodrama and stupid death. Even Beth's death made more sense. The screenwriters are crap, they need to be fired instantly. I think I am going to go back to comics and finish reading them and forget about this terrible show.


No Beth's death made less sense. Beth threw away her life by exacting revenge when it was already given that she was going back to the group. She knew, that at that point, that would've been death, and she did it anyway. Pretty much suicide for no good reason.

Tyreese's death is actually very rational, because it shows that solidified characters can get killed off easily by random zombie encounters. And it shows that no one is safe because 1 second of not focusing can lead to quick death. It also shows that amputation doesn't always save the person.

No it is not. It is just another Ninja zombie moment that kills the show. And he died because of loss of blood, amputation or not has nothing to do with it.
parkufarku
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
882 Posts
February 10 2015 15:53 GMT
#8780
On February 10 2015 23:45 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 10:56 parkufarku wrote:
On February 10 2015 05:21 -Archangel- wrote:
This episode was sooo bad. 35 minutes of extra melodrama and stupid death. Even Beth's death made more sense. The screenwriters are crap, they need to be fired instantly. I think I am going to go back to comics and finish reading them and forget about this terrible show.


No Beth's death made less sense. Beth threw away her life by exacting revenge when it was already given that she was going back to the group. She knew, that at that point, that would've been death, and she did it anyway. Pretty much suicide for no good reason.

Tyreese's death is actually very rational, because it shows that solidified characters can get killed off easily by random zombie encounters. And it shows that no one is safe because 1 second of not focusing can lead to quick death. It also shows that amputation doesn't always save the person.

No it is not. It is just another Ninja zombie moment that kills the show. And he died because of loss of blood, amputation or not has nothing to do with it.


The "ninja zombie moment" might not seem like a kill that has a purpose on the surface, but if you think about it, it shows to reassure us that many important characters on the show can be killed off by a stray random zombie, even in seemingly safe places, at any moment, by a few seconds of lack of concentration. You might not like it, but it's actually not bad. It makes the show seem way more realistic. Not every important character has to have a glorified major drama-build up death.

Beth's death, on the other hand, was just purely illogical on her part (anyone would've known they would get shot for doing that), and revenge for Noah was only built up for a very brief amount of time.
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