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Also, Flash is so far pretty decent, despite teenage melodrama love interest bullshit, its writing seems to be internally consistent.
Arrow has some problems in that regard, but unlike WD they make no pretense about being a serious drama show in a consistent world. Unexplained crap happens and you either deal with it or tune out.
WD pretends to be better than that, but really isn't. That is the main criticism. Zombies go from wet paper bags to ninja hulls whenever the plot needs them to. The characters go from smart and street savvy to utter retard when the plot needs them to.
The show is enjoyable, but both the writers and the fanboys should stop pretending that it is anything other than pulp zombie fiction.
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On February 15 2015 03:37 Acrofales wrote:
Also, Flash is so far pretty decent, despite teenage melodrama love interest bullshit, its writing seems to be internally consistent.
Arrow has some problems in that regard, but unlike WD they make no pretense about being a serious drama show in a consistent world. Unexplained crap happens and you either deal with it or tune out.
WD pretends to be better than that, but really isn't. That is the main criticism. Zombies go from wet paper bags to ninja hulls whenever the plot needs them to. The characters go from smart and street savvy to utter retard when the plot needs them to.
The show is enjoyable, but both the writers and the fanboys should stop pretending that it is anything other than pulp zombie fiction.
Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it violates the shows world. Some zombies are fresher than others. The stronger ones are more recently turned and the weaker "tissue" ones have been zombies for longer... They haven't specifically said so, but I imagine how well fed they are as a zombie impacts their strength too.
People's preference for a show like Flash or Arrow kind of says it all. WD tends to go over a lot of the complainers heads.
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On February 15 2015 03:57 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 03:37 Acrofales wrote:
Also, Flash is so far pretty decent, despite teenage melodrama love interest bullshit, its writing seems to be internally consistent.
Arrow has some problems in that regard, but unlike WD they make no pretense about being a serious drama show in a consistent world. Unexplained crap happens and you either deal with it or tune out.
WD pretends to be better than that, but really isn't. That is the main criticism. Zombies go from wet paper bags to ninja hulls whenever the plot needs them to. The characters go from smart and street savvy to utter retard when the plot needs them to.
The show is enjoyable, but both the writers and the fanboys should stop pretending that it is anything other than pulp zombie fiction. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it violates the shows world. Some zombies are fresher than others. The stronger ones are more recently turned and the weaker "tissue" ones have been zombies for longer... They haven't specifically said so, but I imagine how well fed they are as a zombie impacts their strength too. People's preference for a show like Flash or Arrow kind of says it all. WD tends to go over a lot of the complainers heads.
Soo.. that village in the last episode was attacked (presumably) and wiped out in a very short time span. And not too long ago. Yet nearly all of the zombies in the village were of the weak kind, which must have been, by your logic, turned a long time ago. Except for the one that killed Tyreese, of course. That one must have been killed much more recently (or been quite well fed in the room he has been trapped in).
I'm sorry. I appreciate your effort to explain the show's bad writing, but there's no way around the fact that zombies are incredibly weak or incredibly strong whenever the plot demands it, and that's it.
And don't get me wrong. I genuinely enjoy the show. For a show about zombies and gore, it's incredibly well done. But it's just not on the same level as, say, Breaking Bad.
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why does everyone keep thinking the one that bit Tyrese was trapped in a room? It was made pretty clear that Noah had 2 twin brothers and a sister. Sister was dead on the bed, one brother was trapped in the other room, and one in the room with Tyrese and the sister on the bed.
The point of the entire episode is that the world sucks big bags of dicks. Tyrese got distracted by a photo for a moment and died because of it. The others with him are on the verge of giving up because of how bleak and shitty the world is.
It wasn't a ninja zombie. Tyrese just failed to clear the room and then wasn't paying attention. And apparently none of you were either.
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On February 15 2015 04:05 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 03:57 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 15 2015 03:37 Acrofales wrote:
Also, Flash is so far pretty decent, despite teenage melodrama love interest bullshit, its writing seems to be internally consistent.
Arrow has some problems in that regard, but unlike WD they make no pretense about being a serious drama show in a consistent world. Unexplained crap happens and you either deal with it or tune out.
WD pretends to be better than that, but really isn't. That is the main criticism. Zombies go from wet paper bags to ninja hulls whenever the plot needs them to. The characters go from smart and street savvy to utter retard when the plot needs them to.
The show is enjoyable, but both the writers and the fanboys should stop pretending that it is anything other than pulp zombie fiction. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it violates the shows world. Some zombies are fresher than others. The stronger ones are more recently turned and the weaker "tissue" ones have been zombies for longer... They haven't specifically said so, but I imagine how well fed they are as a zombie impacts their strength too. People's preference for a show like Flash or Arrow kind of says it all. WD tends to go over a lot of the complainers heads. Soo.. that village in the last episode was attacked (presumably) and wiped out in a very short time span. And not too long ago. Yet nearly all of the zombies in the village were of the weak kind, which must have been, by your logic, turned a long time ago. Except for the one that killed Tyreese, of course. That one must have been killed much more recently (or been quite well fed in the room he has been trapped in). I'm sorry. I appreciate your effort to explain the show's bad writing, but there's no way around the fact that zombies are incredibly weak or incredibly strong whenever the plot demands it, and that's it. And don't get me wrong. I genuinely enjoy the show. For a show about zombies and gore, it's incredibly well done. But it's just not on the same level as, say, Breaking Bad.
Uhh... yeah? The one that killed Tyreese was one of the people who had been safely living there, while the ones outside were likely roamers (or possibly weapons [particularly the marked ones]).
My guess is that you know nothing about the world of meth (nor did practically anybody watching BB), because while I loved the show, it had easily as many or plenty more issues of logical/world inconsistencies and stuff only people never exposed to hardcore drug culture would accept as believable.
I mean the blue meth was completely stupid and makes 0 sense.
There was just a lot of bad science in BB in general. With a main character that is a science teacher...
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On February 15 2015 03:57 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 03:37 Acrofales wrote:
Also, Flash is so far pretty decent, despite teenage melodrama love interest bullshit, its writing seems to be internally consistent.
Arrow has some problems in that regard, but unlike WD they make no pretense about being a serious drama show in a consistent world. Unexplained crap happens and you either deal with it or tune out.
WD pretends to be better than that, but really isn't. That is the main criticism. Zombies go from wet paper bags to ninja hulls whenever the plot needs them to. The characters go from smart and street savvy to utter retard when the plot needs them to.
The show is enjoyable, but both the writers and the fanboys should stop pretending that it is anything other than pulp zombie fiction. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it violates the shows world. Some zombies are fresher than others. The stronger ones are more recently turned and the weaker "tissue" ones have been zombies for longer... They haven't specifically said so, but I imagine how well fed they are as a zombie impacts their strength too. People's preference for a show like Flash or Arrow kind of says it all. WD tends to go over a lot of the complainers heads.
I am not going to argue with you. I watch WE for the same reason as Flash and Arrow. They are enjoyable shows where you simply have to take plotholes and logical brainfarts as part of the deal. The fact that you think that some hand waving is going to explain away the face palm worthy inconsistencies is not going to convince me otherwise and nor is insulting my intelligence. I am quite confident I
in that regard, so no harm done 😉
But the league WD plays in is the one of Flash and Arrow and season 5+ of Dexter. Not with Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad or The Wire.
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On February 15 2015 04:23 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 04:05 Conti wrote:On February 15 2015 03:57 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 15 2015 03:37 Acrofales wrote:
Also, Flash is so far pretty decent, despite teenage melodrama love interest bullshit, its writing seems to be internally consistent.
Arrow has some problems in that regard, but unlike WD they make no pretense about being a serious drama show in a consistent world. Unexplained crap happens and you either deal with it or tune out.
WD pretends to be better than that, but really isn't. That is the main criticism. Zombies go from wet paper bags to ninja hulls whenever the plot needs them to. The characters go from smart and street savvy to utter retard when the plot needs them to.
The show is enjoyable, but both the writers and the fanboys should stop pretending that it is anything other than pulp zombie fiction. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it violates the shows world. Some zombies are fresher than others. The stronger ones are more recently turned and the weaker "tissue" ones have been zombies for longer... They haven't specifically said so, but I imagine how well fed they are as a zombie impacts their strength too. People's preference for a show like Flash or Arrow kind of says it all. WD tends to go over a lot of the complainers heads. Soo.. that village in the last episode was attacked (presumably) and wiped out in a very short time span. And not too long ago. Yet nearly all of the zombies in the village were of the weak kind, which must have been, by your logic, turned a long time ago. Except for the one that killed Tyreese, of course. That one must have been killed much more recently (or been quite well fed in the room he has been trapped in). I'm sorry. I appreciate your effort to explain the show's bad writing, but there's no way around the fact that zombies are incredibly weak or incredibly strong whenever the plot demands it, and that's it. And don't get me wrong. I genuinely enjoy the show. For a show about zombies and gore, it's incredibly well done. But it's just not on the same level as, say, Breaking Bad. Uhh... yeah? The one that killed Tyreese was one of the people who had been safely living there, while the ones outside were likely roamers (or possibly weapons [particularly the marked ones]). My guess is that you know nothing about the world of meth (nor did practically anybody watching BB), because while I loved the show, it had easily as many or plenty more issues of logical/world inconsistencies and stuff only people never exposed to hardcore drug culture would accept as believable. I mean the blue meth was completely stupid and makes 0 sense. There was just a lot of bad science in BB in general. With a main character that is a science teacher...
You just don't get it. Something doesn't have to be true to be believable. And blue meth is believable, and BB had consistent internal rules. WD claims to have that too, but they are entirely ad hoc and made up as the plot requires. If WW had one day been able to create blue meth,but the next, only shitty brown meth for no apparent reason, THEN you might have a point with trying to equate the two.
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On February 15 2015 04:58 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 04:23 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 15 2015 04:05 Conti wrote:On February 15 2015 03:57 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 15 2015 03:37 Acrofales wrote:
Also, Flash is so far pretty decent, despite teenage melodrama love interest bullshit, its writing seems to be internally consistent.
Arrow has some problems in that regard, but unlike WD they make no pretense about being a serious drama show in a consistent world. Unexplained crap happens and you either deal with it or tune out.
WD pretends to be better than that, but really isn't. That is the main criticism. Zombies go from wet paper bags to ninja hulls whenever the plot needs them to. The characters go from smart and street savvy to utter retard when the plot needs them to.
The show is enjoyable, but both the writers and the fanboys should stop pretending that it is anything other than pulp zombie fiction. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it violates the shows world. Some zombies are fresher than others. The stronger ones are more recently turned and the weaker "tissue" ones have been zombies for longer... They haven't specifically said so, but I imagine how well fed they are as a zombie impacts their strength too. People's preference for a show like Flash or Arrow kind of says it all. WD tends to go over a lot of the complainers heads. Soo.. that village in the last episode was attacked (presumably) and wiped out in a very short time span. And not too long ago. Yet nearly all of the zombies in the village were of the weak kind, which must have been, by your logic, turned a long time ago. Except for the one that killed Tyreese, of course. That one must have been killed much more recently (or been quite well fed in the room he has been trapped in). I'm sorry. I appreciate your effort to explain the show's bad writing, but there's no way around the fact that zombies are incredibly weak or incredibly strong whenever the plot demands it, and that's it. And don't get me wrong. I genuinely enjoy the show. For a show about zombies and gore, it's incredibly well done. But it's just not on the same level as, say, Breaking Bad. Uhh... yeah? The one that killed Tyreese was one of the people who had been safely living there, while the ones outside were likely roamers (or possibly weapons [particularly the marked ones]). My guess is that you know nothing about the world of meth (nor did practically anybody watching BB), because while I loved the show, it had easily as many or plenty more issues of logical/world inconsistencies and stuff only people never exposed to hardcore drug culture would accept as believable. I mean the blue meth was completely stupid and makes 0 sense. There was just a lot of bad science in BB in general. With a main character that is a science teacher... You just don't get it. Something doesn't have to be true to be believable. And blue meth is believable, and BB had consistent internal rules. WD claims to have that too, but they are entirely ad hoc and made up as the plot requires. If WW had one day been able to create blue meth,but the next, only shitty brown meth for no apparent reason, THEN you might have a point with trying to equate the two.
Believable to people who know nothing about it. Like WD zombies would be amply 'believable' to people who know nothing about it.
I get it, you don't like the variety in zombie awareness, strength, or whatever but people making it seem like it's bad writing then saying blue meth (which anyone who had a clue would of told you is stupid) is fine writing makes me realize I should not have taken much stock in their opinion.
There is tons of bad science on BB used as critical plot devices throughout the show but because it's easier to fool people into thinking they are seeing 'believable' science, than it is to convince them that they are seeing 'believable' zombies so people think the WD writers are bad... smh
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On February 15 2015 04:16 tofucake wrote:
why does everyone keep thinking the one that bit Tyrese was trapped in a room?
Because that's one of the explanations that have been presented in this thread to explain his inability to notice a zombie.
You know, I liked the episode. I really did. I really liked the cameos, that they put a lot of focus on his death, and so on. I enjoyed it. And I am fine with the plot device of "Character is inattentive, pays with his life". But that plot device has been done so many times in the show now that I can only roll my eyes when it happens again, and I wish they'd be a bit more creative with their writing.
And honestly, the last episode wasn't by far the worst offender with this issue (Dale's instant-death-by-ninja-zombie comes to mind), but it was certainly a typical example.
On February 15 2015 04:23 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 04:05 Conti wrote:On February 15 2015 03:57 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 15 2015 03:37 Acrofales wrote:
Also, Flash is so far pretty decent, despite teenage melodrama love interest bullshit, its writing seems to be internally consistent.
Arrow has some problems in that regard, but unlike WD they make no pretense about being a serious drama show in a consistent world. Unexplained crap happens and you either deal with it or tune out.
WD pretends to be better than that, but really isn't. That is the main criticism. Zombies go from wet paper bags to ninja hulls whenever the plot needs them to. The characters go from smart and street savvy to utter retard when the plot needs them to.
The show is enjoyable, but both the writers and the fanboys should stop pretending that it is anything other than pulp zombie fiction. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it violates the shows world. Some zombies are fresher than others. The stronger ones are more recently turned and the weaker "tissue" ones have been zombies for longer... They haven't specifically said so, but I imagine how well fed they are as a zombie impacts their strength too. People's preference for a show like Flash or Arrow kind of says it all. WD tends to go over a lot of the complainers heads. Soo.. that village in the last episode was attacked (presumably) and wiped out in a very short time span. And not too long ago. Yet nearly all of the zombies in the village were of the weak kind, which must have been, by your logic, turned a long time ago. Except for the one that killed Tyreese, of course. That one must have been killed much more recently (or been quite well fed in the room he has been trapped in). I'm sorry. I appreciate your effort to explain the show's bad writing, but there's no way around the fact that zombies are incredibly weak or incredibly strong whenever the plot demands it, and that's it. And don't get me wrong. I genuinely enjoy the show. For a show about zombies and gore, it's incredibly well done. But it's just not on the same level as, say, Breaking Bad. Uhh... yeah? The one that killed Tyreese was one of the people who had been safely living there, while the ones outside were likely roamers (or possibly weapons [particularly the marked ones]).
Even if the whole idea of "putty zombies vs. fast, deadly ninja zombies" was intended by the writers (and I don't believe for a second it ever was, initially), they do a poor job of bringing that point across. And it remains an incredibly convenient plot device.
On February 15 2015 04:23 GreenHorizons wrote:
My guess is that you know nothing about the world of meth (nor did practically anybody watching BB), because while I loved the show, it had easily as many or plenty more issues of logical/world inconsistencies and stuff only people never exposed to hardcore drug culture would accept as believable.
I mean the blue meth was completely stupid and makes 0 sense.
There was just a lot of bad science in BB in general. With a main character that is a science teacher...
It's not about being perfectly realistic (and I'm sure you agree, or do feel like starting a discussion about the feasibility of zombies in the first place?), it's about having consistent internal rules. That Blue Meth was, like, some super awesome meth that only Walter White could cook is a fact within the show you just have to accept as true. Just like we have to accept the whole basic idea of zombies existing.
Things become problematic when internal rules are broken, as that seriously hurts the suspension of disbelief we're having. A character being able to shove away a bunch of zombies with a lazy nudge in one scene, while being unable to fight off just one for several long seconds in another is such an example of inconsistent internal rules. The explanation of "Well, those were old weak zombies and these are new strong ones" is kinda sorta acceptable to me, but still cries of lazy writing to me.
And, again, my disclaimer: I like the show, and I really liked the last episode. But that doesn't mean I'm happy to explain away any quality issues the show has. They exist, and I'm fine with ignoring them for the most part. But I'm also happy to poke fun at them.
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On February 15 2015 04:16 tofucake wrote:
why does everyone keep thinking the one that bit Tyrese was trapped in a room? It was made pretty clear that Noah had 2 twin brothers and a sister. Sister was dead on the bed, one brother was trapped in the other room, and one in the room with Tyrese and the sister on the bed.
The point of the entire episode is that the world sucks big bags of dicks. Tyrese got distracted by a photo for a moment and died because of it. The others with him are on the verge of giving up because of how bleak and shitty the world is.
It wasn't a ninja zombie. Tyrese just failed to clear the room and then wasn't paying attention. And apparently none of you were either.
...No he didn't. Noah had twin brothers and a mother. The mother was in the living room, one brother was dead in that room, and presumably the other brother was in the other room. Where in the hell are you getting he had a sister from?
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Even if the whole idea of "putty zombies vs. fast, deadly ninja zombies" was intended by the writers (and I don't believe for a second it ever was, initially), they do a poor job of bringing that point across. And it remains an incredibly convenient plot device.
I think people are generally way overblowing the differences in zombies. It's not like some are doing back flips and throwing ninja stars and some are unable to figure out stairs.
Like I said a lot of walking dead goes over many viewers head. Pretty sure when it initially came up some viewer tweeted a related question on talking dead. I guess my point is that the zombie issue isn't even as bad as the bad science in Breaking Bad was used (The Bathtub, Walt's battery, the Gas, The magnets, etc). When science is an important part of the show it was a bit distracting ignoring all the stuff that didn't make any sense but was used as a "lazy writing" plot mover.
But whatever I'll just ignore the zombie stuff unless I notice something that actually doesn't make sense.
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On February 15 2015 06:25 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +Even if the whole idea of "putty zombies vs. fast, deadly ninja zombies" was intended by the writers (and I don't believe for a second it ever was, initially), they do a poor job of bringing that point across. And it remains an incredibly convenient plot device. I think people are generally way overblowing the differences in zombies. It's not like some are doing back flips and throwing ninja stars and some are unable to figure out stairs. Like I said a lot of walking dead goes over many viewers head. Pretty sure when it initially came up some viewer tweeted a related question on talking dead. I guess my point is that the zombie issue isn't even as bad as the bad science in Breaking Bad was used (The Bathtub, Walt's battery, the Gas, The magnets, etc). When science is an important part of the show it was a bit distracting ignoring all the stuff that didn't make any sense but was used as a "lazy writing" plot mover. But whatever I'll just ignore the zombie stuff unless I notice something that actually doesn't make sense.
You have to overblow the differences in zombies because there are gigantic differences in zombies, from "can be killed with fire extinguisher water" to "cannot even be fought off by a big-ass strong, muscular guy". The idea that zombies grow weaker over time is pretty nice and explains these differences, but that doesn't make the issues in writing go away.
As for Breaking Bad, eh, the show has never been about the science for me. I generally just accept science-y explanations in shows, because otherwise I'd have material to complain about for years to come. But if you want to go on about how the science in Breaking Bad doesn't make sense, be my guest. I'm not going to try and tell you that you're stupid and that the show must have went over your head and that the science totally does make sense given the right excuses.  I'm happy to admit that the science in Breaking Bad was wrong on many occasions, and I just do not care about that.
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On February 15 2015 06:35 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 06:25 GreenHorizons wrote:Even if the whole idea of "putty zombies vs. fast, deadly ninja zombies" was intended by the writers (and I don't believe for a second it ever was, initially), they do a poor job of bringing that point across. And it remains an incredibly convenient plot device. I think people are generally way overblowing the differences in zombies. It's not like some are doing back flips and throwing ninja stars and some are unable to figure out stairs. Like I said a lot of walking dead goes over many viewers head. Pretty sure when it initially came up some viewer tweeted a related question on talking dead. I guess my point is that the zombie issue isn't even as bad as the bad science in Breaking Bad was used (The Bathtub, Walt's battery, the Gas, The magnets, etc). When science is an important part of the show it was a bit distracting ignoring all the stuff that didn't make any sense but was used as a "lazy writing" plot mover. But whatever I'll just ignore the zombie stuff unless I notice something that actually doesn't make sense. You have to overblow the differences in zombies because there are gigantic differences in zombies, from "can be killed with fire extinguisher water" to "cannot even be fought off by a big-ass strong, muscular guy". The idea that zombies grow weaker over time is pretty nice and explains these differences, but that doesn't make the issues in writing go away. As for Breaking Bad, eh, the show has never been about the science for me. I generally just accept science-y explanations in shows, because otherwise I'd have material to complain about for years to come. But if you want to go on about how the science in Breaking Bad doesn't make sense, be my guest. I'm not going to try and tell you that you're stupid and that the show must have went over your head and that the science totally does make sense given the right excuses. I'm happy to admit that the science in Breaking Bad was wrong on many occasions, and I just do not care about that.
Which zombie are we even talking about him not being able to fight off? Also are you talking about the fire truck hose? If so you have any idea what those things can do?
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This page is cancer. "You're a retard and i know everything so STFU with your unwanted opinion" is all im getting from many different angles.
I am enjoying the show, i just dislike the lack of direction it seems to have this season, either they're travelling towards nothing or its some distracting side-arc.
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Just watched episode 9 and...despite pretty fun zombie scene with slow-mo, I think I'm done with TWD.
It feels like 99% of all deaths are easily may be nominated for the Darwin awards, I just cannot handle it.
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On February 15 2015 07:14 Capped wrote:
This page is cancer. "You're a retard and i know everything so STFU with your unwanted opinion" is all im getting from many different angles.
I am enjoying the show, i just dislike the lack of direction it seems to have this season, either they're travelling towards nothing or its some distracting side-arc.
That's kind of the point though. The characters are all directionless, their hopes are barely running off of mere fumes. What's ahead for them in their path? What can the future hold but death and hopelessness. Michionne was bringing that up, which is why she was so desperate for some new goal, which is why they're heading for DC again, but with blind hope. As for those distracting side arcs, now there's no more people just missing like Beth or Carol/Daryl adventure, or Glenn/Abraham side quest, the group is one, but with spirits broken.
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On February 15 2015 17:35 freeshooter wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 07:14 Capped wrote:
This page is cancer. "You're a retard and i know everything so STFU with your unwanted opinion" is all im getting from many different angles.
I am enjoying the show, i just dislike the lack of direction it seems to have this season, either they're travelling towards nothing or its some distracting side-arc. That's kind of the point though. The characters are all directionless, their hopes are barely running off of mere fumes. What's ahead for them in their path? What can the future hold but death and hopelessness. Michionne was bringing that up, which is why she was so desperate for some new goal, which is why they're heading for DC again, but with blind hope. As for those distracting side arcs, now there's no more people just missing like Beth or Carol/Daryl adventure, or Glenn/Abraham side quest, the group is one, but with spirits broken.
But you can't just make every episode directionless just to display how hopeless and directionless the characters are. After all the show has to be entertaining...
Now atleast they have a goal again: Washington. But what is going to happen till they arrive? Probably more stupid zombie encounters and talking. I hope they skip the entire journey and start with washington right away.
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What was the significance of Noah's head getting scratched? At first I thought maybe it was poisoned, or maybe he'll get an infection or something?
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On February 15 2015 19:02 TerransHill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 17:35 freeshooter wrote:On February 15 2015 07:14 Capped wrote:
This page is cancer. "You're a retard and i know everything so STFU with your unwanted opinion" is all im getting from many different angles.
I am enjoying the show, i just dislike the lack of direction it seems to have this season, either they're travelling towards nothing or its some distracting side-arc. That's kind of the point though. The characters are all directionless, their hopes are barely running off of mere fumes. What's ahead for them in their path? What can the future hold but death and hopelessness. Michionne was bringing that up, which is why she was so desperate for some new goal, which is why they're heading for DC again, but with blind hope. As for those distracting side arcs, now there's no more people just missing like Beth or Carol/Daryl adventure, or Glenn/Abraham side quest, the group is one, but with spirits broken. But you can't just make every episode directionless just to display how hopeless and directionless the characters are. After all the show has to be entertaining... Now atleast they have a goal again: Washington. But what is going to happen till they arrive? Probably more stupid zombie encounters and talking. I hope they skip the entire journey and start with washington right away.
The show was kinda beating you over the head with the wierd mutilated zombie corpses everywhere but sure there was no direction in this episode.
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On February 15 2015 03:37 Acrofales wrote:
Also, Flash is so far pretty decent, despite teenage melodrama love interest bullshit, its writing seems to be internally consistent.
Arrow has some problems in that regard, but unlike WD they make no pretense about being a serious drama show in a consistent world. Unexplained crap happens and you either deal with it or tune out.
WD pretends to be better than that, but really isn't. That is the main criticism. Zombies go from wet paper bags to ninja hulls whenever the plot needs them to. The characters go from smart and street savvy to utter retard when the plot needs them to.
The show is enjoyable, but both the writers and the fanboys should stop pretending that it is anything other than pulp zombie fiction.
its season 5~ they need to upgrade the zombies....
maybe on season 9, the zombies have powers....
hehe
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