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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
April 04 2018 07:19 GMT
#221
these drafts are dull

i miss wings

On April 04 2018 16:16 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 16:07 nothingmuch wrote:
Kind of amusing how the oh so beloved format instantly produced an elimination bo1 between EG and VP. This outcome is hardly different from Swiss despite twice as many games. People will have to get used to the fact that the top ~5-10 teams pretty much all can take games/series off each other and your favorite team can always make an early exit (see secret and newbee).

I mean, it...shouldn't be EG vs VP. Lower brackets are usually A vs D and B vs C (or A vs C and B vs D, whichever).

Did someone mess up with Liquipedia, or is that how they're actually seeding the lower bracket?


idk if it's how dac actually does it, but it's pretty usual, ti does it too. the switch happens after the semis (so loser of lgd vp drops to the lower part of the lb)
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 04 2018 07:20 GMT
#222
On April 04 2018 16:07 nothingmuch wrote:
Kind of amusing how the oh so beloved format instantly produced an elimination bo1 between EG and VP. This outcome is hardly different from Swiss despite twice as many games. People will have to get used to the fact that the top ~5-10 teams pretty much all can take games/series off each other and your favorite team can always make an early exit (see secret and newbee).


Personally I just like the group stage format because each team plays multiple different teams instead of just a few. For me it doesn't have much to do with the format somehow being better of guaranteeing some result. In almost every group stage there is some sort of an "upset" anyway and the bracket ends up having a really good matchup early on that people wouldn't have predicted before the event started.

On April 04 2018 16:16 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 16:07 nothingmuch wrote:
Kind of amusing how the oh so beloved format instantly produced an elimination bo1 between EG and VP. This outcome is hardly different from Swiss despite twice as many games. People will have to get used to the fact that the top ~5-10 teams pretty much all can take games/series off each other and your favorite team can always make an early exit (see secret and newbee).

I mean, it...shouldn't be EG vs VP. Lower brackets are usually A vs D and B vs C (or A vs C and B vs D, whichever).

Did someone mess up with Liquipedia, or is that how they're actually seeding the lower bracket?


I don't think there's anything wrong. The side you drop into switches in the WB semis so you don't face the same team twice. Doing the first round like this is fine.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 04 2018 07:24 GMT
#223
Zai on Jakiro seems strange, but there has to be a reason for it.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
April 04 2018 07:25 GMT
#224
Fair enough, if the next upper bracket switches. I remember there was one Major that got shit for not switching the brackets at all (but changed it after they were called out).
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
April 04 2018 07:27 GMT
#225
Also what the fuck is up with those floating Liquipedia ads. I still remember the first super apologetic announcement about having tiny non-obtrusive ads on the main site. Jesus TL.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 04 2018 07:28 GMT
#226
On April 04 2018 16:24 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Zai on Jakiro seems strange, but there has to be a reason for it.


They switched. ppd on Jakiro & Zai on WW. That makes a lot more sense.
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-04 07:30:54
April 04 2018 07:30 GMT
#227
On April 04 2018 16:07 nothingmuch wrote:
Kind of amusing how the oh so beloved format instantly produced an elimination bo1 between EG and VP. This outcome is hardly different from Swiss despite twice as many games. People will have to get used to the fact that the top ~5-10 teams pretty much all can take games/series off each other and your favorite team can always make an early exit (see secret and newbee).

there's a difference between top team eliminated early in group stage and later in the knockout stage. not to mention prize money included.
-Terran-
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
April 04 2018 07:31 GMT
#228
That ward placement will win Optic this game ROFL.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 04 2018 07:33 GMT
#229
Taunting CCnC is a good way to make him tilt?
Nomad115
Profile Joined March 2018
42 Posts
April 04 2018 07:35 GMT
#230
Don't google Morphling CS guys
Fear he who fears nothing
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
April 04 2018 07:38 GMT
#231
On April 04 2018 16:27 Orome wrote:
Also what the fuck is up with those floating Liquipedia ads. I still remember the first super apologetic announcement about having tiny non-obtrusive ads on the main site. Jesus TL.

Make sure to report those on the main tlnet site so it can be fixed
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
April 04 2018 07:38 GMT
#232
if they dont stop Avernus now, they all gonna die in agony. none of them have sustainable damage to continue hitting Avernus after the borrowed time.
-Terran-
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
April 04 2018 07:41 GMT
#233
On April 04 2018 16:38 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 16:27 Orome wrote:
Also what the fuck is up with those floating Liquipedia ads. I still remember the first super apologetic announcement about having tiny non-obtrusive ads on the main site. Jesus TL.

Make sure to report those on the main tlnet site so it can be fixed


Ah they're not intended? Thanks, that's nice to know.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 04 2018 07:45 GMT
#234
Nice to see iceiceice go back to his hotd playstyle. One reason why EG does decently these days is because they abuse hotd.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 04 2018 07:47 GMT
#235
On April 04 2018 16:45 babysimba wrote:
Nice to see iceiceice go back to his hotd playstyle. One reason why EG does decently these days is because they abuse hotd.


That item is broken.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 04 2018 07:51 GMT
#236
On April 04 2018 16:47 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 16:45 babysimba wrote:
Nice to see iceiceice go back to his hotd playstyle. One reason why EG does decently these days is because they abuse hotd.


That item is broken.

Especially controlling enemy catapult which is even better than controlling a centaur for extra stun.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
April 04 2018 07:52 GMT
#237
when icex3 looks like he's having fun in a game, you know good things will happen for his team
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 04 2018 07:54 GMT
#238
On April 04 2018 16:51 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 16:47 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On April 04 2018 16:45 babysimba wrote:
Nice to see iceiceice go back to his hotd playstyle. One reason why EG does decently these days is because they abuse hotd.


That item is broken.

Especially controlling enemy catapult which is even better than controlling a centaur for extra stun.


An HOD'd catapult shouldn't be able to hold an entire lane against 3 heroes like that.

Anyway, Optic needs to not open with Sand King, as I think teams have figured out how to pigeonhole them later in the draft with it. 33 needs to be on a hero that does more damage. Though this game got away because of that Abaddon + Prophet lane. Never knew that was a thing, but it worked way too well.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 04 2018 07:55 GMT
#239
Meta is shifting to bringing in a lot of the old MVP.Phoenix tactics. We're seeing a lot of early, heavy rotations & defenses. NP makes this version entirely possible, so that seems like everyone will be banning it again.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 04 2018 08:00 GMT
#240
Jabz was alive for so long lol
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