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[DAC 2018] DAC Major - Playoffs Day 2 - Page 11

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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
April 04 2018 06:36 GMT
#201
On April 04 2018 15:35 spudde123 wrote:
Ramzes could have just sundered the Chen?

Yup, that was a mistake by him.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44225 Posts
April 04 2018 06:37 GMT
#202
On April 04 2018 15:32 bluzi wrote:
14-4 vs a pushing lineup and they still lose , damn liquid meta is CRAZY strong right now , win laning stage roll game , lose laning stage (kill wise as LD still farmed) still win .

this is dealable

VP just didn't draft to deal with it (also timber later pick rocks)
this is a quote
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 04 2018 06:39 GMT
#203
In both games Liquid has managed to draft in a way where it's hard for VP to move out and kill people in small groups. In both games VP basically needs their entire team to get a single kill unless it's a lone AA or something
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
April 04 2018 06:43 GMT
#204
IceFrog please.

Don't let another TI go down to the siege meta.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
April 04 2018 06:43 GMT
#205
2-0 tournament continues
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44225 Posts
April 04 2018 06:43 GMT
#206
interesting results .. 2-0's and VP getting 2-0'd

liquid is the 2nd team to beat this iteration of VP in a b03
this is a quote
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
April 04 2018 06:44 GMT
#207
Radiant is now 10-2 during the main event.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44225 Posts
April 04 2018 06:46 GMT
#208
On April 04 2018 15:44 maze. wrote:
Radiant is now 10-2 during the main event.

I'm gonna make a guess. It's how the camera works right ? It's much harder to initiate from above than below
this is a quote
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
April 04 2018 06:46 GMT
#209
Crazy good series. Loving the meta right now.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
April 04 2018 06:52 GMT
#210
Knew Liquid was going to do it and now I'm hoping for great results from Optic.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44225 Posts
April 04 2018 06:57 GMT
#211
On April 04 2018 15:52 juuto wrote:
Knew Liquid was going to do it and now I'm hoping for great results from Optic.

I'm hoping not. I want either mineski/LGD/TNC to get good results this major so that navi gets kicked out from the free invite cause they are the only one who is really weak from the top 8

I want TI invites to be of those deserving
this is a quote
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
April 04 2018 06:59 GMT
#212
On April 04 2018 15:46 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 15:44 maze. wrote:
Radiant is now 10-2 during the main event.

I'm gonna make a guess. It's how the camera works right ? It's much harder to initiate from above than below

Read a reddit thread about Radiant vs Dire few weeks ago, like all of the heroes have ~4-5% higher win rate when played on Radiant side, it is worrying.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44225 Posts
April 04 2018 07:02 GMT
#213
On April 04 2018 15:59 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 15:46 goody153 wrote:
On April 04 2018 15:44 maze. wrote:
Radiant is now 10-2 during the main event.

I'm gonna make a guess. It's how the camera works right ? It's much harder to initiate from above than below

Read a reddit thread about Radiant vs Dire few weeks ago, like all of the heroes have ~4-5% higher win rate when played on Radiant side, it is worrying.

I'm curious why did most heroes have higher winrate ? I thought dire's jungle area especially the offlane jungle is much better than the radiant. Does radiant initiation angle on rosh make it easier for radiant ?

Or is it much easier to push as radiant than dire ?
this is a quote
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
April 04 2018 07:03 GMT
#214
On April 04 2018 15:57 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 15:52 juuto wrote:
Knew Liquid was going to do it and now I'm hoping for great results from Optic.

I'm hoping not. I want either mineski/LGD/TNC to get good results this major so that navi gets kicked out from the free invite cause they are the only one who is really weak from the top 8

I want TI invites to be of those deserving

even if they're kicked, there's still high chance they'll be in TI due to CIS qualifier
but its better just Navi rather than Navi + random CIS team
-Terran-
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 04 2018 07:05 GMT
#215
On April 04 2018 15:57 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 15:52 juuto wrote:
Knew Liquid was going to do it and now I'm hoping for great results from Optic.

I'm hoping not. I want either mineski/LGD/TNC to get good results this major so that navi gets kicked out from the free invite cause they are the only one who is really weak from the top 8

I want TI invites to be of those deserving


Na'Vi has no chance of holding onto that spot without more points.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
April 04 2018 07:06 GMT
#216
On April 04 2018 15:57 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 15:52 juuto wrote:
Knew Liquid was going to do it and now I'm hoping for great results from Optic.

I'm hoping not. I want either mineski/LGD/TNC to get good results this major so that navi gets kicked out from the free invite cause they are the only one who is really weak from the top 8

I want TI invites to be of those deserving


Na'vi being kicked out is an inevitability and I would love for NA to have more teams in the running for TI invite. I just feel like even if EG gets enough points for an invite, it'll be TI7 all over again. They can accomplish things every now and then but I have no faith in them at TI.
nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
April 04 2018 07:07 GMT
#217
Kind of amusing how the oh so beloved format instantly produced an elimination bo1 between EG and VP. This outcome is hardly different from Swiss despite twice as many games. People will have to get used to the fact that the top ~5-10 teams pretty much all can take games/series off each other and your favorite team can always make an early exit (see secret and newbee).
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
April 04 2018 07:16 GMT
#218
On April 04 2018 16:07 nothingmuch wrote:
Kind of amusing how the oh so beloved format instantly produced an elimination bo1 between EG and VP. This outcome is hardly different from Swiss despite twice as many games. People will have to get used to the fact that the top ~5-10 teams pretty much all can take games/series off each other and your favorite team can always make an early exit (see secret and newbee).

I mean, it...shouldn't be EG vs VP. Lower brackets are usually A vs D and B vs C (or A vs C and B vs D, whichever).

Did someone mess up with Liquipedia, or is that how they're actually seeding the lower bracket?
Average means I'm better than half of you.
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-04 07:17:00
April 04 2018 07:16 GMT
#219
I still think rodjer on chen was a waste. yea he did what literally any chen players are expected to do but it's clear liquid know well how to deal with it
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 04 2018 07:19 GMT
#220
On April 04 2018 16:16 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 16:07 nothingmuch wrote:
Kind of amusing how the oh so beloved format instantly produced an elimination bo1 between EG and VP. This outcome is hardly different from Swiss despite twice as many games. People will have to get used to the fact that the top ~5-10 teams pretty much all can take games/series off each other and your favorite team can always make an early exit (see secret and newbee).

I mean, it...shouldn't be EG vs VP. Lower brackets are usually A vs D and B vs C (or A vs C and B vs D, whichever).

Did someone mess up with Liquipedia, or is that how they're actually seeding the lower bracket?

EG should face VP. It's only in R2 LB they face an opponent from the other half of the bracket, so they don't meet LGD or Liquid again.
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