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CxWiLL
Profile Joined May 2013
China830 Posts
April 04 2018 13:00 GMT
#361
kinda feel bad for raven
lost 2 rapier in one game and drop from top of the net worth chart to the bottom
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-04 13:03:12
April 04 2018 13:01 GMT
#362
slutty divine rapier have been with several man already
it has been a while I've seen such a slutty rapier
usually game ends quite soon after it's purchased
-Terran-
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
April 04 2018 13:01 GMT
#363
On April 04 2018 21:59 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 21:58 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On April 04 2018 21:55 LemOn wrote:
WTF is this 25 timber hahaha
is the range unlimited?

Doubled, from 1400 to 2800.

that's pretty much unlimited, you'd have to target straight down the lane not to hit something haha

Well the problem is in team fights that when you miss a tree that you wanted to hit by little, you hit another tree that is like 2000 range from the one you wanted to hit, and while you walk back to team fight the fight is already over. You timberchain straight up to Africa.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
April 04 2018 13:02 GMT
#364
what an amazing game
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
April 04 2018 13:02 GMT
#365
On April 04 2018 22:00 juuto wrote:
Do people not go for objectives when they're 25k networth ahead anymore? What's the deal here?

they cannot see the net worth lead
-Terran-
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
April 04 2018 13:04 GMT
#366
tomorrow is LaNm vs iceiceice and mushi
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
April 04 2018 13:05 GMT
#367
On April 04 2018 22:02 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 22:00 juuto wrote:
Do people not go for objectives when they're 25k networth ahead anymore? What's the deal here?

they cannot see the net worth lead


Well they've played enough pro games and have enough sense to know they were far enough ahead to take the game.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
April 04 2018 13:06 GMT
#368
vici apparently shit tier team

pure nuggets of wisdom from swindlemelonzz, greatest analyst of all time
Sucker for nostalgia
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-04 13:17:06
April 04 2018 13:12 GMT
#369
On April 04 2018 22:05 juuto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 22:02 Vertical wrote:
On April 04 2018 22:00 juuto wrote:
Do people not go for objectives when they're 25k networth ahead anymore? What's the deal here?

they cannot see the net worth lead


Well they've played enough pro games and have enough sense to know they were far enough ahead to take the game.


Phoenix and Underlord are some of the best base defense heroes in the game. It's not like TNC didn't go for any pushes, they went and didn't manage to get enough done. Maybe it was the wrong time or they did them poorly, but it's far from simple in the moment. You can't sit and hit the building against those heroes if they are alive, they will kill you from far away really easily with little committed.

Even when 25k or whatever ahead at 45mins, you can easily lose a fight against certain types of lineups with one error. Or in this case they didn't use the gold they had to have an answer against the Aeon Disk
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
April 04 2018 13:20 GMT
#370
On April 04 2018 22:12 spudde123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 22:05 juuto wrote:
On April 04 2018 22:02 Vertical wrote:
On April 04 2018 22:00 juuto wrote:
Do people not go for objectives when they're 25k networth ahead anymore? What's the deal here?

they cannot see the net worth lead


Well they've played enough pro games and have enough sense to know they were far enough ahead to take the game.


Phoenix and Underlord are some of the best base defense heroes in the game. It's not like TNC didn't go for any pushes, they went and didn't manage to get enough done. Maybe it was the wrong time or they did them poorly, but it's far from simple in the moment


If Phoenix and Underlord were that good at defending the base where massive networth advantages didn't matter, they'd be nerfed into the ground tomorrow. Like Kyle said, TNC didn't play to win, and that's why the game was drawn out long enough for VG to win. Whether it was through throws or whatever, TNC allowed all those opportunities for VG to happen.

When good teams play this patch, games end soon when networth leads are that large. There's really no excuse for TNC.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-04 13:42:33
April 04 2018 13:25 GMT
#371
On April 04 2018 22:20 juuto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 22:12 spudde123 wrote:
On April 04 2018 22:05 juuto wrote:
On April 04 2018 22:02 Vertical wrote:
On April 04 2018 22:00 juuto wrote:
Do people not go for objectives when they're 25k networth ahead anymore? What's the deal here?

they cannot see the net worth lead


Well they've played enough pro games and have enough sense to know they were far enough ahead to take the game.


Phoenix and Underlord are some of the best base defense heroes in the game. It's not like TNC didn't go for any pushes, they went and didn't manage to get enough done. Maybe it was the wrong time or they did them poorly, but it's far from simple in the moment


If Phoenix and Underlord were that good at defending the base where massive networth advantages didn't matter, they'd be nerfed into the ground tomorrow. Like Kyle said, TNC didn't play to win, and that's why the game was drawn out long enough for VG to win. Whether it was through throws or whatever, TNC allowed all those opportunities for VG to happen.

When good teams play this patch, games end soon when networth leads are that large. There's really no excuse for TNC.


Of course they allowed it to happen, but it doesn't mean it's as simple as randomly "going for objectives". Underlord and Phoenix have other weaknesses, and of course certain heroes can go highground against them better. TNC had a Gyro as their only hero who could do any building damage. It's a weakness of the lineup to an extent. Compare this to the times your "good teams" play, e.g. Liquid drafted a heavy timing push lineup in both games against VP and VP had no heroes that could spam from far away as well as Underlord or Phoenix can. Of course TL can go high ground easily in those cases

What VG did well was sneaking the rosh when TNC had taken their first rax. That likely would have been the game ending aegis. Then TNC tried to go when DP ult was down, but they couldn't deal with the Aeon Disk and the Cheese on DP. I need to see the game again to remember exactly what the teams did after that, but I believe TNC wanted to wait for the next aegis but VG started to win teamfights outside the base at that point
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 04 2018 22:22 GMT
#372
Watching the vods and I can't imagine how TNC will lose this game 3 right now, 20mn into the game with their 15k lead oO
korendir
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore259 Posts
April 05 2018 00:40 GMT
#373
On April 04 2018 07:06 Kelefei2016 wrote:
LGD, Liquid, Mineski, Vici

My preferred team

But my last night prediction is 0%, all my favourite teams lost (Newbee, IG, VGJ, Secret), lol


Wow dude, you got it 100% this time lol
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