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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On January 29 2016 00:10 Super_Style wrote: Its time secret fans, rtz's time in eg is over, hes back with puppy and his bf zai, misery back to 4 and w33 mid. Easy TI. People said same about secret last year. Lmao.and misery is more toxic than kuroky.a ticking bomb .placing rtz and misery in same team is pretty deadly | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
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brinepumps
Indonesia753 Posts
Miracle what a player | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On January 29 2016 00:28 brinepumps wrote: That sounds like singling out a player, when it is a team effort, that put him in these positions.Let's stop slating secret and start praising OG instead. Miracle what a player | ||
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babysimba
10466 Posts
On January 29 2016 00:26 Dracolich70 wrote: PPD "just" need to find a solution to play to the strengths of RTZ and Sumail, and perhaps concoct a strategy in the process. Just go bad to sadboys style. Spacemaking mid and offlane. Hard carry with fat pos 4 support. | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On January 29 2016 00:31 babysimba wrote: Not sure how that is Sadboys style, when RTZ was a midfarmer galore, and Fear being his versatile and unselfish self. Sumail and RTZ on the same team is a different beast. That being said, they should do that, but that would require them to be willing to let Sumail suffer for the greater good, when needed. As it stands they are sitting between two stools, while giving either one or both a hero where they don't shine, or try to make them both shine, hurting objectives.Just go bad to sadboys style. Spacemaking mid and offlane. Hard carry with fat pos 4 support. | ||
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On January 29 2016 00:14 spudde123 wrote: Yea his death didn't have much to do with lane position, but I think the lane position was why PLD left elsewhere because he realized he can't do shit mid. The death was just thinking that he can kill Miracle as far as I saw regarding your original post though: i think teams that draft dp should really take care to make sure she doesnt lose, and that might include just parking a bh behind mid if for no reason other than to intervene when shit like that first solo kill happens morph could've probably been fine alone top from level 3 onward against sb, and it should've been expected that sb would be looking to prey on the dp first in a dp/void/morph tricore alliance made the same mistake of sacking s4 dp in one game and it went similarly horribly for them (bulldog was on doom i believe) | ||
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goody153
44240 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
Might be a tournament in which we can't actually count on Americans to win it, though no reason to count them out yet, given their traditional need to play from the lower group. The team does appear to have actual problems. One less ego, one more championship, etc. But in before another Western team wins it any way. That's what's cool about not just having one team that's top class. Teams, after all, rise and fall every year, but the conditions that produced them don't change as frequently. | ||
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babysimba
10466 Posts
On January 29 2016 00:38 Dracolich70 wrote: Not sure how that is Sadboys style, when RTZ was a midfarmer galore, and Fear being his versatile and unselfish self. Sumail and RTZ on the same team is a different beast. That being said, they should do that, but that would require them to be willing to let Sumail suffer for the greater good, when needed. As it stands they are sitting between two stools, while giving either one or both a hero where they don't shine, or try to make them both shine, hurting objectives. Pure spacemaking hero. Literally S4 style, not the Sumail type of tempo heroes that still require shit tons of farm. It's not Sumail best playing style but he's still top tier on it. | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On January 29 2016 00:38 hfglgg wrote: They opted to let him snowball in order to create that space.i think sumail has shown in the past that he can play the playmaking role well. i remember some extremely good magnus games and at least one amazing puck game (still lost, because puck). at the moment i would pinpoint egs weakness in a lack of heroes suiting them. they dont have a good es or chen player and i dont think sumails invoker is as good as other top players (i.e. miracle or w33ha). ultimately i dont think they have a go to pick they can safely play and rely on raw skill to get into a favourable position. Yes, they are somewhat limited, even if Fear can play anything. PPD can't, and Sumail needs snowball heroes. On January 29 2016 00:43 babysimba wrote: s4 is also willing to sacrifice himself, buying time for either Loda and/or Bulldong.Pure spacemaking hero. Literally S4 style, not the Sumail type of tempo heroes that still require shit tons of farm. It's not Sumail best playing style but he's still top tier on it. | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
On January 29 2016 00:40 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: regarding your original post though: i think teams that draft dp should really take care to make sure she doesnt lose, and that might include just parking a bh behind mid if for no reason other than to intervene when shit like that first solo kill happens morph could've probably been fine alone top from level 3 onward against sb, and it should've been expected that sb would be looking to prey on the dp first in a dp/void/morph tricore alliance made the same mistake of sacking s4 dp in one game and it went similarly horribly for them (bulldog was on doom i believe) Yea I agree. When Secret's struggles started in the online quals for SL it felt like w33 getting rolled over mid with rotations was a pretty common theme. At least compared to OG for example it doesn't feel like Secret in general does as good of a job to make sure the lane is alright. And this isn't just due to rotations but also wards, blocking the wave, etc. | ||
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goody153
44240 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On January 28 2016 21:03 Daralii wrote: Even number year. Like clockwork, China begins to rise. But they haven't won a tournament yet in 2016, and we've had one already. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On January 29 2016 00:48 spudde123 wrote: PPY is a jungling support, when being at his best, and is babysitting EE. So it has to be PLD. The difference between them is OG are willing to sack N0tail, and N0tail is willing to buy space, while neither EE nor W33 want to do the same.Yea I agree. When Secret's struggles started in the online quals for SL it felt like w33 getting rolled over mid with rotations was a pretty common theme. At least compared to OG for example it doesn't feel like Secret in general does as good of a job to make sure the lane is alright. And this isn't just due to rotations but also wards, blocking the wave, etc. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On January 29 2016 00:49 Azarkon wrote: But they haven't won a tournament yet in 2016, and we've had one already. stop impersonating nahaz | ||
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