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On July 19 2014 10:09 Oddball28 wrote: Stop being salty about the fucking format. It's fucking amazing. Mind NewBee first of all had to risk their lives in tiebreakers, barely scraping their ass into the Main Event. Then they had to play all the way through the phase three, knocking down Titan, Na'Vi and the titans that are iG. Today they beat Vici and EG. If that team is NOT worthy of the Grand Finals, then who the fuck deserves it.
NewBee proved that the best team gets into the finals.
Inb4 salty tears.
No one is saying that the format is bad = Newbee doesn't deserve finals. They clearly do.
The fact still remains though that we have 2 full days of competition where we already know one of the finalists. The main event is 4 days long and we already know who is top2 after the first day. It dampens the hype/suspense that a more traditional schedule provides.
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IT'S FINE GUYS ARTOUR GOT POINT ONE MORE POINT THEN HAO
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On July 19 2014 10:12 Count9 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 10:09 Noya wrote:On July 19 2014 10:08 opterown wrote:On July 19 2014 10:07 Noya wrote: Reading some comments in this LR makes me think why am I here in the first place better than reddit Good point, but in reddit you can hide/ignore comments easily. We need more free use of the banhammer IMO late BW era modding never coming back Please don't tbh, I think old Nazi modding drove a good number of people away from the site.
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On July 19 2014 10:12 kirsed wrote:IT'S FINE GUYS ARTOUR GOT POINT ONE MORE POINT THEN HAO ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/b0IFlhp.png)
Hao is this possible!? (Pun intended).
My fantasy team cashed in today, everyone except for LaNm gave me a fair amount of points :D (lineup today was Hao, Mason, Super, Banana & LaNm)
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in hindsight they should have offensively jungled the enigma with storm and wraith top, beast bottom,
then try to take the top tower quickly with eidolons
lich offlane is broken and doom is broken too, devour is too strong
eg should have won the first game they just played poorly
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On July 19 2014 10:14 Zvenn3n wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 10:12 kirsed wrote:IT'S FINE GUYS ARTOUR GOT POINT ONE MORE POINT THEN HAO ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/b0IFlhp.png) Hao is this possible!? (Pun intended). My fantasy team cashed in today, everyone except for LaNm gave me a fair amount of points :D (lineup today was Hao, Mason, Super, Banana & LaNm) You took mason over burning? O_O
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On July 19 2014 10:11 Kuroeeah wrote: NB getting to the Grand Finals this early might work against them because they were a team that gained momentum, was on the verge of getting eliminated by Titan until their game 3 and from that point on just went on to win every game ahead of them.
There's a ton of "momentum" teams here where i can see the couple of days worth of waiting working against them when they're paired up against a team that worked as hard as they did to get up there assuming it's not one of the three of the teams getting dropped here.
You can say it's an advantage in that Newbee doesn't have to play as many games and has plenty of time to prepare in advance. EG had plenty of time to prepare for DK and it showed today, but against Newbee PPD's drafts were abit predictable and played right into Xiao8's hands.
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On July 19 2014 10:12 Count9 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 10:09 Noya wrote:On July 19 2014 10:08 opterown wrote:On July 19 2014 10:07 Noya wrote: Reading some comments in this LR makes me think why am I here in the first place better than reddit Good point, but in reddit you can hide/ignore comments easily. We need more free use of the banhammer IMO late BW era modding never coming back I wasn't even present that era, but I as of later these forums are becoming joindota 2.0 -.-
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On July 19 2014 10:15 Noya wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 10:12 Count9 wrote:On July 19 2014 10:09 Noya wrote:On July 19 2014 10:08 opterown wrote:On July 19 2014 10:07 Noya wrote: Reading some comments in this LR makes me think why am I here in the first place better than reddit Good point, but in reddit you can hide/ignore comments easily. We need more free use of the banhammer IMO late BW era modding never coming back I wasn't even present that era, but I as of later these forums are becoming joindota 2.0 -.-
I'm just glad Azarkon isn't here anymore.
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On July 19 2014 10:11 ForTehDarkseid wrote: I still can't fucking believe DK didn't take a single game from EG.
I think EG was relaly, really prepared for DK. The Abaddon pick was genius in game one, and they really rendered the FV useless in game 2 with their positioning.
Against Newbee... I remember back in the days of dota 1 where teams used to pick vengeful spirit just because of her ability to swap through bkbs and cancel ultis. Newbee uses lich and doom in a similar way. It's a really strong way of disrupting EG's AoE-Ult heavy strats, with the added benefit that if they get EG to misfire on their ults once, it takes a long time for EG's ults to get off cooldown in sync. This allows Newbee to control the pace.
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On July 19 2014 10:12 kirsed wrote:IT'S FINE GUYS ARTOUR GOT POINT ONE MORE POINT THEN HAO ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/b0IFlhp.png)
Dude I repeat, who the fuck are you playing with in order to be able to draft Hao, Burning and RTZ on one fantasy team
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On July 19 2014 10:15 superstartran wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 10:15 Noya wrote:On July 19 2014 10:12 Count9 wrote:On July 19 2014 10:09 Noya wrote:On July 19 2014 10:08 opterown wrote:On July 19 2014 10:07 Noya wrote: Reading some comments in this LR makes me think why am I here in the first place better than reddit Good point, but in reddit you can hide/ignore comments easily. We need more free use of the banhammer IMO late BW era modding never coming back I wasn't even present that era, but I as of later these forums are becoming joindota 2.0 -.- I'm just glad Azarkon isn't here anymore. The amount of warnings i got from him for inconspicuous things..
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On July 19 2014 10:12 wuhan_clan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 10:09 Oddball28 wrote: Stop being salty about the fucking format. It's fucking amazing. Mind NewBee first of all had to risk their lives in tiebreakers, barely scraping their ass into the Main Event. Then they had to play all the way through the phase three, knocking down Titan, Na'Vi and the titans that are iG. Today they beat Vici and EG. If that team is NOT worthy of the Grand Finals, then who the fuck deserves it.
NewBee proved that the best team gets into the finals.
Inb4 salty tears. No one is saying that the format is bad = Newbee doesn't deserve finals. They clearly do. The fact still remains though that we have 2 full days of competition where we already know one of the finalists. The main event is 4 days long and we already know who is top2 after the first day. It dampens the hype/suspense that a more traditional schedule provides.
So what? You still have 7 amazing teams fighting for their lives tomorrow and everyone of those matches will not be "dampened" because you know one of the finalists. Don't worry you will have plenty of hype, nailbiting, sweat and tears the next coming days.
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On July 19 2014 10:15 Noya wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 10:12 Count9 wrote:On July 19 2014 10:09 Noya wrote:On July 19 2014 10:08 opterown wrote:On July 19 2014 10:07 Noya wrote: Reading some comments in this LR makes me think why am I here in the first place better than reddit Good point, but in reddit you can hide/ignore comments easily. We need more free use of the banhammer IMO late BW era modding never coming back I wasn't even present that era, but I as of later these forums are becoming joindota 2.0 -.- LR threads are notoriously hard to moderate. Just use your report button freely ^_^
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On July 19 2014 10:11 ForTehDarkseid wrote: I still can't fucking believe DK didn't take a single game from EG.
well EG didnt take a single game from Newbee
DOTA2 is won or lost at the draft, since all the teams at this level are very even in terms of execution, mechanics, communication etc.
For fitness, abs are made in the kitchen,
For DOTA2, wins are made in the draft.
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some are won/lost at draft, some are by plays. ice3 went full retard as voker so dk lost that game.
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Congratz to Newbee for the amazing run. A little bit sad for EG, since it would have been really nice to see such a motivated young team in the Grand Finals. Even though, I still believe in Na'Vi !
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On July 19 2014 10:18 ref4 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 10:11 ForTehDarkseid wrote: I still can't fucking believe DK didn't take a single game from EG. well EG didnt take a single game from Newbee DOTA2 is won or lost at the draft, since all the teams at this level are very even in terms of execution, mechanics, communication etc. For fitness, abs are made in the kitchen, For DOTA2, wins are made in the draft.
i don't disagree that drafts are really important, but to claim the game is lost before the horn is stupid,
i.e had EG played better in game 1, they would have won, and u would have said the exact same thing if that were the case (which is dumb)
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On July 19 2014 10:15 ymir233 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 10:12 kirsed wrote:IT'S FINE GUYS ARTOUR GOT POINT ONE MORE POINT THEN HAO ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/b0IFlhp.png) Dude I repeat, who the fuck are you playing with in order to be able to draft Hao, Burning and RTZ on one fantasy team
He is still going to lose so it doesn't matter.
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On July 19 2014 10:16 Oddball28 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 10:12 wuhan_clan wrote:On July 19 2014 10:09 Oddball28 wrote: Stop being salty about the fucking format. It's fucking amazing. Mind NewBee first of all had to risk their lives in tiebreakers, barely scraping their ass into the Main Event. Then they had to play all the way through the phase three, knocking down Titan, Na'Vi and the titans that are iG. Today they beat Vici and EG. If that team is NOT worthy of the Grand Finals, then who the fuck deserves it.
NewBee proved that the best team gets into the finals.
Inb4 salty tears. No one is saying that the format is bad = Newbee doesn't deserve finals. They clearly do. The fact still remains though that we have 2 full days of competition where we already know one of the finalists. The main event is 4 days long and we already know who is top2 after the first day. It dampens the hype/suspense that a more traditional schedule provides. So what? You still have 7 amazing teams fighting for their lives tomorrow and everyone of those matches will not be "dampened" because you know one of the finalists. Don't worry you will have plenty of hype, nailbiting, sweat and tears the next coming days. People's expectations are simply way too high due to a few things. One, they're judging it against TI3's grand finals and Liquid's game vs LGD, or TI2's "The play" Navi vs Orange or Fountain vs Tongfu. Basically, against the other TI's highlights and expected TI to jump off last year's grand finals level and be better than that from the onset. And two, the $10 mil prizepool made people think every game was gonna be mind blowing cause we're real sports now or something. Sometimes you get seahawks broncos this year, sometimes you get heat spurs last year. Money doesn't correlate with tournament quality but it did fuel the hype train and raise expectations.
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