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wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
July 19 2014 01:12 GMT
#6681
On July 19 2014 10:09 Oddball28 wrote:
Stop being salty about the fucking format. It's fucking amazing. Mind NewBee first of all had to risk their lives in tiebreakers, barely scraping their ass into the Main Event. Then they had to play all the way through the phase three, knocking down Titan, Na'Vi and the titans that are iG. Today they beat Vici and EG. If that team is NOT worthy of the Grand Finals, then who the fuck deserves it.

NewBee proved that the best team gets into the finals.

Inb4 salty tears.


No one is saying that the format is bad = Newbee doesn't deserve finals.
They clearly do.

The fact still remains though that we have 2 full days of competition where we already know one of the finalists. The main event is 4 days long and we already know who is top2 after the first day. It dampens the hype/suspense that a more traditional schedule provides.
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
July 19 2014 01:12 GMT
#6682
IT'S FINE GUYS ARTOUR GOT POINT ONE MORE POINT THEN HAO

[image loading]
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
July 19 2014 01:13 GMT
#6683
On July 19 2014 10:12 Count9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 10:09 Noya wrote:
On July 19 2014 10:08 opterown wrote:
On July 19 2014 10:07 Noya wrote:
Reading some comments in this LR makes me think why am I here in the first place

better than reddit

Good point, but in reddit you can hide/ignore comments easily.

We need more free use of the banhammer IMO

late BW era modding never coming back

Please don't tbh, I think old Nazi modding drove a good number of people away from the site.
Zvenn3n
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Sweden1196 Posts
July 19 2014 01:14 GMT
#6684
On July 19 2014 10:12 kirsed wrote:
IT'S FINE GUYS ARTOUR GOT POINT ONE MORE POINT THEN HAO

[image loading]


Hao is this possible!? (Pun intended).

My fantasy team cashed in today, everyone except for LaNm gave me a fair amount of points :D (lineup today was Hao, Mason, Super, Banana & LaNm)
run.at.me
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia550 Posts
July 19 2014 01:14 GMT
#6685
in hindsight they should have offensively jungled the enigma with storm and wraith top, beast bottom,

then try to take the top tower quickly with eidolons

lich offlane is broken and doom is broken too, devour is too strong

eg should have won the first game they just played poorly
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
July 19 2014 01:14 GMT
#6686
On July 19 2014 10:14 Zvenn3n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 10:12 kirsed wrote:
IT'S FINE GUYS ARTOUR GOT POINT ONE MORE POINT THEN HAO

[image loading]


Hao is this possible!? (Pun intended).

My fantasy team cashed in today, everyone except for LaNm gave me a fair amount of points :D (lineup today was Hao, Mason, Super, Banana & LaNm)

You took mason over burning? O_O
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
July 19 2014 01:15 GMT
#6687
On July 19 2014 10:11 Kuroeeah wrote:
NB getting to the Grand Finals this early might work against them because they were a team that gained momentum, was on the verge of getting eliminated by Titan until their game 3 and from that point on just went on to win every game ahead of them.

There's a ton of "momentum" teams here where i can see the couple of days worth of waiting working against them when they're paired up against a team that worked as hard as they did to get up there assuming it's not one of the three of the teams getting dropped here.



You can say it's an advantage in that Newbee doesn't have to play as many games and has plenty of time to prepare in advance. EG had plenty of time to prepare for DK and it showed today, but against Newbee PPD's drafts were abit predictable and played right into Xiao8's hands.
Noya
Profile Joined April 2013
Uruguay11223 Posts
July 19 2014 01:15 GMT
#6688
On July 19 2014 10:12 Count9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 10:09 Noya wrote:
On July 19 2014 10:08 opterown wrote:
On July 19 2014 10:07 Noya wrote:
Reading some comments in this LR makes me think why am I here in the first place

better than reddit

Good point, but in reddit you can hide/ignore comments easily.

We need more free use of the banhammer IMO

late BW era modding never coming back

I wasn't even present that era, but I as of later these forums are becoming joindota 2.0 -.-
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
July 19 2014 01:15 GMT
#6689
On July 19 2014 10:15 Noya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 10:12 Count9 wrote:
On July 19 2014 10:09 Noya wrote:
On July 19 2014 10:08 opterown wrote:
On July 19 2014 10:07 Noya wrote:
Reading some comments in this LR makes me think why am I here in the first place

better than reddit

Good point, but in reddit you can hide/ignore comments easily.

We need more free use of the banhammer IMO

late BW era modding never coming back

I wasn't even present that era, but I as of later these forums are becoming joindota 2.0 -.-



I'm just glad Azarkon isn't here anymore.
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 01:17:17
July 19 2014 01:15 GMT
#6690
On July 19 2014 10:11 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
I still can't fucking believe DK didn't take a single game from EG.


I think EG was relaly, really prepared for DK. The Abaddon pick was genius in game one, and they really rendered the FV useless in game 2 with their positioning.

Against Newbee... I remember back in the days of dota 1 where teams used to pick vengeful spirit just because of her ability to swap through bkbs and cancel ultis. Newbee uses lich and doom in a similar way. It's a really strong way of disrupting EG's AoE-Ult heavy strats, with the added benefit that if they get EG to misfire on their ults once, it takes a long time for EG's ults to get off cooldown in sync. This allows Newbee to control the pace.
manner
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
July 19 2014 01:15 GMT
#6691
On July 19 2014 10:12 kirsed wrote:
IT'S FINE GUYS ARTOUR GOT POINT ONE MORE POINT THEN HAO

[image loading]


Dude I repeat, who the fuck are you playing with in order to be able to draft Hao, Burning and RTZ on one fantasy team
Come motivate me to be cynical about animus at http://infinityandone.blogspot.com/ // Stork proxy gates are beautiful.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
July 19 2014 01:16 GMT
#6692
On July 19 2014 10:15 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 10:15 Noya wrote:
On July 19 2014 10:12 Count9 wrote:
On July 19 2014 10:09 Noya wrote:
On July 19 2014 10:08 opterown wrote:
On July 19 2014 10:07 Noya wrote:
Reading some comments in this LR makes me think why am I here in the first place

better than reddit

Good point, but in reddit you can hide/ignore comments easily.

We need more free use of the banhammer IMO

late BW era modding never coming back

I wasn't even present that era, but I as of later these forums are becoming joindota 2.0 -.-



I'm just glad Azarkon isn't here anymore.

The amount of warnings i got from him for inconspicuous things..
Oddball28
Profile Joined May 2013
Denmark2121 Posts
July 19 2014 01:16 GMT
#6693
On July 19 2014 10:12 wuhan_clan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 10:09 Oddball28 wrote:
Stop being salty about the fucking format. It's fucking amazing. Mind NewBee first of all had to risk their lives in tiebreakers, barely scraping their ass into the Main Event. Then they had to play all the way through the phase three, knocking down Titan, Na'Vi and the titans that are iG. Today they beat Vici and EG. If that team is NOT worthy of the Grand Finals, then who the fuck deserves it.

NewBee proved that the best team gets into the finals.

Inb4 salty tears.


No one is saying that the format is bad = Newbee doesn't deserve finals.
They clearly do.

The fact still remains though that we have 2 full days of competition where we already know one of the finalists. The main event is 4 days long and we already know who is top2 after the first day. It dampens the hype/suspense that a more traditional schedule provides.


So what? You still have 7 amazing teams fighting for their lives tomorrow and everyone of those matches will not be "dampened" because you know one of the finalists. Don't worry you will have plenty of hype, nailbiting, sweat and tears the next coming days.
LaNm, Iceiceice, Mushi, BurNIng and MMY - DK 2013/2014 - What a ride it was...
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 19 2014 01:17 GMT
#6694
On July 19 2014 10:15 Noya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 10:12 Count9 wrote:
On July 19 2014 10:09 Noya wrote:
On July 19 2014 10:08 opterown wrote:
On July 19 2014 10:07 Noya wrote:
Reading some comments in this LR makes me think why am I here in the first place

better than reddit

Good point, but in reddit you can hide/ignore comments easily.

We need more free use of the banhammer IMO

late BW era modding never coming back

I wasn't even present that era, but I as of later these forums are becoming joindota 2.0 -.-

LR threads are notoriously hard to moderate. Just use your report button freely ^_^
Moderator
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
July 19 2014 01:18 GMT
#6695
On July 19 2014 10:11 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
I still can't fucking believe DK didn't take a single game from EG.


well EG didnt take a single game from Newbee

DOTA2 is won or lost at the draft, since all the teams at this level are very even in terms of execution, mechanics, communication etc.

For fitness, abs are made in the kitchen,

For DOTA2, wins are made in the draft.
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
July 19 2014 01:19 GMT
#6696
some are won/lost at draft, some are by plays. ice3 went full retard as voker so dk lost that game.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
MagmaPunch
Profile Joined November 2011
Bulgaria536 Posts
July 19 2014 01:20 GMT
#6697
Congratz to Newbee for the amazing run. A little bit sad for EG, since it would have been really nice to see such a motivated young team in the Grand Finals. Even though, I still believe in Na'Vi !
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
run.at.me
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia550 Posts
July 19 2014 01:20 GMT
#6698
On July 19 2014 10:18 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 10:11 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
I still can't fucking believe DK didn't take a single game from EG.


well EG didnt take a single game from Newbee

DOTA2 is won or lost at the draft, since all the teams at this level are very even in terms of execution, mechanics, communication etc.

For fitness, abs are made in the kitchen,

For DOTA2, wins are made in the draft.


i don't disagree that drafts are really important, but to claim the game is lost before the horn is stupid,

i.e had EG played better in game 1, they would have won, and u would have said the exact same thing if that were the case (which is dumb)
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 19 2014 01:21 GMT
#6699
On July 19 2014 10:15 ymir233 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 10:12 kirsed wrote:
IT'S FINE GUYS ARTOUR GOT POINT ONE MORE POINT THEN HAO

[image loading]


Dude I repeat, who the fuck are you playing with in order to be able to draft Hao, Burning and RTZ on one fantasy team


He is still going to lose so it doesn't matter.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 19 2014 01:22 GMT
#6700
On July 19 2014 10:16 Oddball28 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 10:12 wuhan_clan wrote:
On July 19 2014 10:09 Oddball28 wrote:
Stop being salty about the fucking format. It's fucking amazing. Mind NewBee first of all had to risk their lives in tiebreakers, barely scraping their ass into the Main Event. Then they had to play all the way through the phase three, knocking down Titan, Na'Vi and the titans that are iG. Today they beat Vici and EG. If that team is NOT worthy of the Grand Finals, then who the fuck deserves it.

NewBee proved that the best team gets into the finals.

Inb4 salty tears.


No one is saying that the format is bad = Newbee doesn't deserve finals.
They clearly do.

The fact still remains though that we have 2 full days of competition where we already know one of the finalists. The main event is 4 days long and we already know who is top2 after the first day. It dampens the hype/suspense that a more traditional schedule provides.


So what? You still have 7 amazing teams fighting for their lives tomorrow and everyone of those matches will not be "dampened" because you know one of the finalists. Don't worry you will have plenty of hype, nailbiting, sweat and tears the next coming days.

People's expectations are simply way too high due to a few things. One, they're judging it against TI3's grand finals and Liquid's game vs LGD, or TI2's "The play" Navi vs Orange or Fountain vs Tongfu. Basically, against the other TI's highlights and expected TI to jump off last year's grand finals level and be better than that from the onset. And two, the $10 mil prizepool made people think every game was gonna be mind blowing cause we're real sports now or something. Sometimes you get seahawks broncos this year, sometimes you get heat spurs last year. Money doesn't correlate with tournament quality but it did fuel the hype train and raise expectations.
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