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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 09 2013 21:14 GMT
#1381
split push games are so boring though
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
August 09 2013 21:14 GMT
#1382
On August 10 2013 06:13 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 06:11 BlueFlames wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:11 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:10 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:08 Grettin wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:07 figq wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:05 Firebolt145 wrote:
Yo, every other tournament in the world. Watch this and learn, please.


Well, to be honest, all they think when they watch is: "We wish we had the money to do this".


And all i'm thinking is why doesn't other games/companies sell their stuff like Valve, so they could afford at least a bit of this. Compendium for example.


They sell HD passes or pay per view and people hate them for it ;x

Sell anything and have people hate it. Dota 2 gets away with what other people wish they could.


No Valve sells quality. Thats the difference.

And all those steam games made by other people. Its a real boost to the budget.


Oh now we are comparing things that dont have to do anything with the current subject? I am sure thaat activisions money and wow money would be enough to pay for 5 internationals for starcraft a year.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 09 2013 21:15 GMT
#1383
They're really gonna give Bulldog his Furion after that display last game?
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 21:15:49
August 09 2013 21:15 GMT
#1384
On August 10 2013 06:13 TheYango wrote:
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On August 10 2013 06:10 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:06 TheYango wrote:
Draft was not what lost DK that game, 2009 was saying that if it was 2 nameless teams and not Alliance vs. DK, DK's draft would be 70/30 against Alliance's draft.

Alliance recognized what was important that game and executed well. They made good trades when DK had the advantage, and capitalized on DK's mistakes. The gem loss near Rosh where s4 lasso-ed ROTK from under 4 DK players' noses was absolutely game changing.

i think it was few things. the xp advantage was important honestly, i don't know why LD and Lumi were saying it didn't matter when the reality was that the supports of Alliance were near level 20 and DK were like at level 12 and i didn't feel super contributed at all in terms of damage.

linkin might not have been a bad choice but i don't think going both bkb and linkin was smart when you sacrifice any going items that can give damage.

Again, that was entirely a product of the lost gem at the Rosh pit. When you lose all your wards on the map, your supports can't do anything but wait behind the carries because you simply cannot farm enough to be worth the risk of a solo kill on you turning into a free tower or Roshan. The gold/XP graphs were reasonably close until DK lost their gem, at which point Alliance's advantage skyrocketed because Batrider + Furion + took enemy's gem locks down the entire map.

DK basically lost that gem for free too because I don't think they'd done anything to Alliance's vision when they lost it.

I think the big mistake that cost them the game was that fight at the ancients. That was the thing that allowed Loda to almost catch up to Alchemist in farm, NP to close the gap and prevented Alchemist from getting that absurd gold advantage he can get while freefarming with a BF.
Ramble
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden877 Posts
August 09 2013 21:15 GMT
#1385
Probably puck for s4, puck is really good against AM with dream coil and the silence.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 09 2013 21:15 GMT
#1386
On August 10 2013 06:12 Plansix wrote:
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On August 10 2013 06:10 WindWolf wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:09 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:07 WindWolf wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:02 killerdog wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:00 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 10 2013 05:58 Y wrote:
On August 10 2013 05:57 WindWolf wrote:
GG

But I still don't like premature GG calls...


I do hope you mean the casters' early "gg" when [A] teamwiped first.

DK's "gg" at the end was in no imaginable way premature.

Well, if the gg is called by casters before the players call it, it's premature. I guess. I mean it was pretty obvious who was going to win at that point, but crazy shit CAN happen in Dota, even though it rarely does.


Casters calling gg (Within reason) isn't really a bad thing though, if it was the game ending point, then it just makes the casters look good (plus helps new people understand at what point the game was finished) and if there is a comeback, then it just makes the comeback much more intense then if the casters had let on that it was still all up in the air.

IMO no. Casters calling gg too early = they have COMPLETELY ruled out the possibility of a comback.
I even had a 4v5 game once that my team won pretty convincingly

People need to not freak out about the casters calling GG alittle early. The game can be over and the caster can be proven wrong, which is just as much fun.

When it happens repetitively, it is no longer fun. I've seen enough stuff to know that you should never call GG to early.

It looked like it was over and I can't blame them. that is how hard it is to play Dota 2, is that you can never know.

IMO, DK had a small chance to turn around this left
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 09 2013 21:15 GMT
#1387
for alliance
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cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
August 09 2013 21:15 GMT
#1388
On August 10 2013 06:14 BlueFlames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 06:13 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:11 BlueFlames wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:11 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:10 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:08 Grettin wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:07 figq wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:05 Firebolt145 wrote:
Yo, every other tournament in the world. Watch this and learn, please.


Well, to be honest, all they think when they watch is: "We wish we had the money to do this".


And all i'm thinking is why doesn't other games/companies sell their stuff like Valve, so they could afford at least a bit of this. Compendium for example.


They sell HD passes or pay per view and people hate them for it ;x

Sell anything and have people hate it. Dota 2 gets away with what other people wish they could.


No Valve sells quality. Thats the difference.

And all those steam games made by other people. Its a real boost to the budget.


Oh now we are comparing things that dont have to do anything with the current subject? I am sure thaat activisions money and wow money would be enough to pay for 5 internationals for starcraft a year.

5 a month
minhblizzard
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore425 Posts
August 09 2013 21:15 GMT
#1389
Their carries switched around :|
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 09 2013 21:15 GMT
#1390
On August 10 2013 06:15 KristofferAG wrote:
They're really gonna give Bulldog his Furion after that display last game?


Wisp or LD. Hard call.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
August 09 2013 21:16 GMT
#1391
On August 10 2013 06:15 KristofferAG wrote:
They're really gonna give Bulldog his Furion after that display last game?

They cannot do anything..They have to ban LD + Wisp
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
August 09 2013 21:16 GMT
#1392
In b4 naga sleeps the whole DK team while bulldog] takes a t3 and rax.
It's gonna be glorious.
broodmann
Profile Joined December 2011
604 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 21:16:35
August 09 2013 21:16 GMT
#1393
On August 10 2013 06:15 KristofferAG wrote:
They're really gonna give Bulldog his Furion after that display last game?


Not much DK can do, although as an [A]lliance fan I would love to see bulldog crush it on LD
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
August 09 2013 21:16 GMT
#1394
chen timbersaw lets go
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
August 09 2013 21:16 GMT
#1395
Double minus armor and treants for tanking and dps, I think they can totally level 1 rosh.
super gg
Pjorren
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden777 Posts
August 09 2013 21:16 GMT
#1396
Is this the first time Alliance plays with Alchemist at the International?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 09 2013 21:16 GMT
#1397
Gah I'm totally bored with alchemist. Like really really bored.
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LSF
Profile Joined April 2012
469 Posts
August 09 2013 21:16 GMT
#1398
And heres Alch, they're just putting up a big middle finger I think.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 09 2013 21:16 GMT
#1399
Weird.

I could have sworn that Antimage is known for countering Alchemist carry, hard.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 09 2013 21:16 GMT
#1400
On August 10 2013 06:14 BlueFlames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 06:13 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:11 BlueFlames wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:11 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:10 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:08 Grettin wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:07 figq wrote:
On August 10 2013 06:05 Firebolt145 wrote:
Yo, every other tournament in the world. Watch this and learn, please.


Well, to be honest, all they think when they watch is: "We wish we had the money to do this".


And all i'm thinking is why doesn't other games/companies sell their stuff like Valve, so they could afford at least a bit of this. Compendium for example.


They sell HD passes or pay per view and people hate them for it ;x

Sell anything and have people hate it. Dota 2 gets away with what other people wish they could.


No Valve sells quality. Thats the difference.

And all those steam games made by other people. Its a real boost to the budget.


Oh now we are comparing things that dont have to do anything with the current subject? I am sure thaat activisions money and wow money would be enough to pay for 5 internationals for starcraft a year.

This is a stupid discussion. Valve does a good job, no need to shit on other people who are trying to do a good job too.
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