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[TI3] Playoffs Day 4 - Page 256

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Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
August 11 2013 01:33 GMT
#5101
SVENNNNNNNN

TEAM ORANJE HWAITING~!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
Vankuga
Profile Joined April 2012
Panama2005 Posts
August 11 2013 01:33 GMT
#5102
I'm lovin Orange this tournament, the picks are awesome. go Orange.
Vankuga
potatomash3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia417 Posts
August 11 2013 01:33 GMT
#5103
The Orange vs China drafts have been really interesting so far.
Part of being mature is to accept your loss.
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 11 2013 01:33 GMT
#5104
Sven warcry obviously hard counter to Silencer
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
August 11 2013 01:33 GMT
#5105
LOL THE NICKNAMES I LOVE YOU GUYS
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
tehplank
Profile Joined October 2010
977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 01:34:20
August 11 2013 01:33 GMT
#5106
Let's see some Fear vacuum -> 1 shot cleaves this game
Minatozaki Sana / Hirai Momo / Myoui Mina / Yoo Jeongyeon / Zhou Tzuyu / Im Nayeon / Son Chaeyoung / Kim Dahyun / Park Jihyo
waever
Profile Joined May 2013
Russian Federation615 Posts
August 11 2013 01:34 GMT
#5107
im a Na'Vi fan, but last 5 games showed some sort of retarded decision making, laning and drafts. I have no idea how in the world a world-class team can not understand that a freefarm alchemist will destroy a squishy line-up with nothing to offer against BKB, how an URSA with no decent lockdown heroes can kill anyone in the game, how your Alchemist can go against offensive tri-lane and not expect to loose.

I expected so much more from Na'Vi this TI, but all they have shown is Chen+naix+rubick+bountry+1 or Chen+pudge. They went for the bootcamp in China, they played in Western scene for quite some time and still i feel like im looking at casino players, either go big on red or go home. How is this a top tier play in any way? So sad.
Azhrei16
Profile Joined August 2011
United States284 Posts
August 11 2013 01:34 GMT
#5108
Such fun lineups, I cannot wait for this game. I love seeing heroes get picked who haven't gotten played much or at all.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 11 2013 01:34 GMT
#5109
On August 11 2013 10:26 pyro19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 10:23 Nocticate wrote:
On August 11 2013 10:18 ladyumbra wrote:
Is alchemist Loda's best hero? How often can games honestly be lost just by letting a person have the hero they really want? Like obviously anything can happen and it's a team game but are some people just broken with certain heroes?

I still don't get all the intricacies of picking and banning but it seems like the LR thread is either joyous or frustrated severely based on choices being made.


Loda has a lot of good heroes but honestly you can't just worry about Loda. It's Bulldog, S4, Akke and EGM. That's really the impossible choice: focus on shitting on Loda who will develop into a monster if you don't or focus on the other 4 who all have the capacity to win alliance the game if left alone. And it's a massive problem that S4 is probably the best drafter in the world right now; he makes you pick what he wants you to pick, not what you want to pick. And then Alliance just waits for you to make a mistake.


S4 is privileged with having some of the best players in the world playing in their respective positions around him..He's a good drafter but the fact that he has one of the best 4-5 position combo and Bulldog who commands a Respect ban every game makes his drafting a hell of lot easier.Plus Loda can play a lot of carries (got nothing on burning AM tho :D)

Loda isn't really the problem, he isn't even near the top carry-wise, at least he wasn't when he joined Alliance, he is just good enough at his role to not drag the team down and obviously his lifelong friendship with Akke helps with the chemistry, but anyways, I'd probably just ban LD/chen/Prophet/Naga/Magnus vs them.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 11 2013 01:34 GMT
#5110
On August 11 2013 10:33 Badboyrune wrote:
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On August 11 2013 10:25 WindWolf wrote:
On August 11 2013 10:22 MCDayC wrote:
On August 11 2013 10:21 DDie wrote:
On August 11 2013 10:19 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
I don't think Alliance can lose at this point they will have to lose two Bo5 in the grand finals... They have dropped a set yet.



Yeah, we don't have that starcraft bullshit in dota, it's a single bo5.

lol ''starcraft bullshit'' = the standard way to run a double elimination tournament

I've seen some pretty sick FGC matches that wouldn't be possible without the "starcraft BS"

Plus, it's called double elimination for a reason...


The starcraft bullshit is the extended series stuff, which people seem to confuse for standard double elimination when in fact it has nothing to do with it.

The whole idea behind double elim is that you get a second chance, you need to lose twice to get knocked out of the tournament. If you reach the grand finals through the winner bracket that means you haven't lost a game yet, so you need to lose once before you can be knocked out. The team from the losers bracket has obviously already lost once.

Extended series is a whole different thing.

And I understand why Valve runs it this way, but saying that it is de facto more fair to run it in a way where the team that has performed the best gets one less chance than the other team is just not true.

irony is that its not even starcraft, its just fucking MLG, they did it with Halo 2.


I guess thats not gonna be a problem anymore.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 11 2013 01:34 GMT
#5111
Sven!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As is Orange wasn't my favourite after the Slardar pick.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 11 2013 01:34 GMT
#5112
Please don't feed on clockwerk kingJ.
Glorious SEA doto
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 11 2013 01:34 GMT
#5113
Really like the heroes selected this game. Going to be a fun East vs East game for once
Scio
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany522 Posts
August 11 2013 01:34 GMT
#5114
On August 11 2013 10:32 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 10:31 Disengaged wrote:
On August 11 2013 10:28 Gentso wrote:
Sigh.. I really like Alliance team but I really dislike Kelly Milkies and is it bad that I don't want them to win it all just because of that? : /


Wait. . . is she dating one of them?

She has a horrible reputation in the SC2 and LoL community lol


she dates loda
probably biggest esports groupie atm


Well Akke and EGM are really nice guys so they balance out the arrogance of Loda and the fact that they have Kelly as manager.
"Did you know that in the original batman movie they casted nestea as joker but when batman threw him into the acid he was fine so they had to recast it with Jack Nicholson......it's a true fact" -Artosis
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
August 11 2013 01:34 GMT
#5115
On August 11 2013 10:33 Badboyrune wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 10:25 WindWolf wrote:
On August 11 2013 10:22 MCDayC wrote:
On August 11 2013 10:21 DDie wrote:
On August 11 2013 10:19 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
I don't think Alliance can lose at this point they will have to lose two Bo5 in the grand finals... They have dropped a set yet.



Yeah, we don't have that starcraft bullshit in dota, it's a single bo5.

lol ''starcraft bullshit'' = the standard way to run a double elimination tournament

I've seen some pretty sick FGC matches that wouldn't be possible without the "starcraft BS"

Plus, it's called double elimination for a reason...


The starcraft bullshit is the extended series stuff, which people seem to confuse for standard double elimination when in fact it has nothing to do with it.

The whole idea behind double elim is that you get a second chance, you need to lose twice to get knocked out of the tournament. If you reach the grand finals through the winner bracket that means you haven't lost a game yet, so you need to lose once before you can be knocked out. The team from the losers bracket has obviously already lost once.

Extended series is a whole different thing.

And I understand why Valve runs it this way, but saying that it is de facto more fair to run it in a way where the team that has performed the best gets one less chance than the other team is just not true.
It's not the most fair, what's the most fair is highly debatable, but it makes for the most interesting tournament.

There's nothing more to be said.
Once you Goblak...
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 11 2013 01:34 GMT
#5116
On August 11 2013 10:33 r.Evo wrote:
LOL THE NICKNAMES I LOVE YOU GUYS

wut?
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
August 11 2013 01:34 GMT
#5117
On August 11 2013 10:33 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 10:32 teapoted wrote:
On August 11 2013 10:31 Disengaged wrote:
On August 11 2013 10:28 Gentso wrote:
Sigh.. I really like Alliance team but I really dislike Kelly Milkies and is it bad that I don't want them to win it all just because of that? : /


Wait. . . is she dating one of them?

She has a horrible reputation in the SC2 and LoL community lol
Is this TMZ?


Who or what is TMZ?


A stupid news outlet dedicated to following drama of obnoxious celebrities, athletes, etc.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 11 2013 01:34 GMT
#5118
On August 11 2013 10:33 Badboyrune wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 10:25 WindWolf wrote:
On August 11 2013 10:22 MCDayC wrote:
On August 11 2013 10:21 DDie wrote:
On August 11 2013 10:19 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
I don't think Alliance can lose at this point they will have to lose two Bo5 in the grand finals... They have dropped a set yet.



Yeah, we don't have that starcraft bullshit in dota, it's a single bo5.

lol ''starcraft bullshit'' = the standard way to run a double elimination tournament

I've seen some pretty sick FGC matches that wouldn't be possible without the "starcraft BS"

Plus, it's called double elimination for a reason...


The starcraft bullshit is the extended series stuff, which people seem to confuse for standard double elimination when in fact it has nothing to do with it.

The whole idea behind double elim is that you get a second chance, you need to lose twice to get knocked out of the tournament. If you reach the grand finals through the winner bracket that means you haven't lost a game yet, so you need to lose once before you can be knocked out. The team from the losers bracket has obviously already lost once.

Extended series is a whole different thing.

And I understand why Valve runs it this way, but saying that it is de facto more fair to run it in a way where the team that has performed the best gets one less chance than the other team is just not true.

If you talked about extended series, be clear about it. I thought it was all about double-elimination double-grand-finals
EZ4ENCE
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 11 2013 01:34 GMT
#5119
Mushi on Sven, huhuhuhuh, dis gon b gud.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
August 11 2013 01:35 GMT
#5120
GO TONGFU THIS IS ON YOU SANSHENG
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
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