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lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
February 22 2012 15:07 GMT
#1681
A super fast stone on enchantress can be pretty backbreaking. I also like it on invoker, but there are other things to get before that often. Dirge is also one of my favoured choices, but to be honest, it's usually better to get other things on most heroes. Damage absorbers don't often want mana, and mana whores dont tend to prioritise tanking.
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
February 22 2012 17:37 GMT
#1682
On February 22 2012 23:49 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 23:00 jfourz wrote:
is the ethereal blade damage dealt before or after the banish occurs?

I barely use the item, but I believe damage is dealt before the banishment occurs.


that is my belief also, since otherwise the actual damage is rather obfuscated for no particular reason (although this can often be the case in dota). i tried to find a concrete answer either way but no-where have i seen it mentioned...
it is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. that is true, it's called life.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
February 22 2012 20:49 GMT
#1683
bloodstone isn't good on anyone
it's one of the worst items in the game

ethereal blade damage hits after they're banished
so yes it is amped by 40%
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
February 22 2012 20:51 GMT
#1684
On February 23 2012 05:49 Dead9 wrote:
bloodstone isn't good on anyone
it's one of the worst items in the game

ethereal blade damage hits after they're banished
so yes it is amped by 40%


BS is the main item on Leshrac and its ok on Stormspirit.
if you can believe you can concieve
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
February 22 2012 21:15 GMT
#1685
On February 23 2012 05:49 Dead9 wrote:
bloodstone isn't good on anyone
it's one of the worst items in the game

ethereal blade damage hits after they're banished
so yes it is amped by 40%


Its a fantastic item to get in DP and Leshrac

I really like it on Zeus as well, so he can spam spells a lot easier, and start that static field being pretty annoying in team fights with the spam.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 22 2012 21:26 GMT
#1686
On February 23 2012 06:15 Hassybaby wrote:
Its a fantastic item to get in DP and Leshrac

It's a good item to snowball with on DP, but TBH in a reasonable game, a standard caster semicarry build with Mekansm and Sheepstick is probably actually better.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
February 22 2012 22:01 GMT
#1687
i wouldn't call it a "main item" on lesh
it's okay, but generally there are items that accomplish much more
like bkb, hex, blink, pushstick, jango, etc

and it might work "ok" on storm, but again there are better items

it's not very good on dp because the mana is completely worthless and raw survivability is much easier to buy in other forms
vanguard + jango, for example, is cheaper, easier to build, and more useful pretty much all the time
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
February 22 2012 22:15 GMT
#1688
works ok on storm, but only if you have guinsoo and other good usable items first, otherwise it doesnt help any against a decent lineup. i dont like it on lesh really, the midgame pushes are powered by arcane boots and you might as well settle for better durability items instead. dp doesnt need at all, the mana used by carrion swarm is really negligible, sure you might lose half your mana from exorcism but that doesnt warrant a bloodstone
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 22 2012 22:16 GMT
#1689
Why do people called Force staff, pushstick. Sounds like kindergarten language. Come guys let's name this stuff decently! If we take this path soon we going to be calling spells "q" "w" "e" 'r". Can't stand that crap.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
February 22 2012 22:18 GMT
#1690
On February 23 2012 07:16 Numy wrote:
Why do people called Force staff, pushstick. Sounds like kindergarten language. Come guys let's name this stuff decently! If we take this path soon we going to be calling spells "q" "w" "e" 'r". Can't stand that crap.

should start calling it FS huh
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
February 22 2012 22:48 GMT
#1691
On February 23 2012 07:16 Numy wrote:
Why do people called Force staff, pushstick. Sounds like kindergarten language. Come guys let's name this stuff decently! If we take this path soon we going to be calling spells "q" "w" "e" 'r". Can't stand that crap.


The reason that it is called pushstick is because it is easier to convey push stick than force staff

If someone says "Im going to use force staff." You need to first identify what force staff does whereas if you call it push stick you already know what the items effect is...which is pushing. I hope that makes sense.

Its the same with sheepstick instead of guinsoo/scyth of vyse or silence stick or whatever. Its just easier to convey ideas to people in high pressure situations.

/bullshit off
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GMonster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
686 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 22:54:23
February 22 2012 22:49 GMT
#1692
are the servers down? I keep getting "Connecting to dota 2 server" for main menu. and thats it. No channels or anything.

Nevermind some how my dota 2 client got seperated from Steam.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 22 2012 22:52 GMT
#1693
On February 23 2012 07:48 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 07:16 Numy wrote:
Why do people called Force staff, pushstick. Sounds like kindergarten language. Come guys let's name this stuff decently! If we take this path soon we going to be calling spells "q" "w" "e" 'r". Can't stand that crap.


The reason that it is called pushstick is because it is easier to convey push stick than force staff

If someone says "Im going to use force staff." You need to first identify what force staff does whereas if you call it push stick you already know what the items effect is...which is pushing. I hope that makes sense.

Its the same with sheepstick instead of guinsoo/scyth of vyse or silence stick or whatever. Its just easier to convey ideas to people in high pressure situations.

/bullshit off


Hahaha, then we need to reduce everything. So let's start by calling Battlefury, farmfaster and manta, illusionstick! :D
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
February 22 2012 23:18 GMT
#1694
On February 23 2012 07:52 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 07:48 Spicy_Curry wrote:
On February 23 2012 07:16 Numy wrote:
Why do people called Force staff, pushstick. Sounds like kindergarten language. Come guys let's name this stuff decently! If we take this path soon we going to be calling spells "q" "w" "e" 'r". Can't stand that crap.


The reason that it is called pushstick is because it is easier to convey push stick than force staff

If someone says "Im going to use force staff." You need to first identify what force staff does whereas if you call it push stick you already know what the items effect is...which is pushing. I hope that makes sense.

Its the same with sheepstick instead of guinsoo/scyth of vyse or silence stick or whatever. Its just easier to convey ideas to people in high pressure situations.

/bullshit off


Hahaha, then we need to reduce everything. So let's start by calling Battlefury, farmfaster and manta, illusionstick! :D

I like xstick and qwer =(
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
February 22 2012 23:24 GMT
#1695
On February 23 2012 07:52 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 07:48 Spicy_Curry wrote:
On February 23 2012 07:16 Numy wrote:
Why do people called Force staff, pushstick. Sounds like kindergarten language. Come guys let's name this stuff decently! If we take this path soon we going to be calling spells "q" "w" "e" 'r". Can't stand that crap.


The reason that it is called pushstick is because it is easier to convey push stick than force staff

If someone says "Im going to use force staff." You need to first identify what force staff does whereas if you call it push stick you already know what the items effect is...which is pushing. I hope that makes sense.

Its the same with sheepstick instead of guinsoo/scyth of vyse or silence stick or whatever. Its just easier to convey ideas to people in high pressure situations.

/bullshit off


Hahaha, then we need to reduce everything. So let's start by calling Battlefury, farmfaster and manta, illusionstick! :D

you are a genius. i'm using these names from now on
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
February 23 2012 00:10 GMT
#1696
it's actually very common to refer to skills by their hotkey (either qwer or their orginal dota hotkeys)
it's just so much easier to say "e" instead of "maledict"
i mean stuns are collectively called "stuns" and silences are collectively called "silences" just for the sake of simplicity

also some people come from a hon or non-english background so sometimes they have different nicknames for items
on top of that push stick is easier to type than force staff (and push is easier to type than force) since u don't have to use the same finger twice in a row

writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
February 23 2012 00:20 GMT
#1697
What effect does the "network quality" setting have on your lag? What is the difference between Low and High?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 23 2012 00:35 GMT
#1698
On February 23 2012 09:10 Dead9 wrote:
it's actually very common to refer to skills by their hotkey (either qwer or their orginal dota hotkeys)

The trouble arises with many heroes whose legacy hotkeys use QWER in some way, but they don't match the QWER keys.

Example: For Windrunner's legacy keys, Shackleshot is E, Powershot is R, and Windrun is W. For her QWER keys, Powershot is W, Windrun is E, and Focus Fire is R.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 23 2012 01:22 GMT
#1699
Yeah I dislike calling them by QWER for skills, but shortened summarized descriptions of items I feel is fine. like I don't like calling Scythe of Vyse anything except sheepstick, why would I assume a scythe turns someone into a sheep or pig or whatever. Just call it by what it does, push stick pushes, cyclone stick cyclones, sheep stick sheeps.
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TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
February 23 2012 01:42 GMT
#1700
If you are using legacy keys you should not need a skill build or anything for someone to tell you QWER. I don't think many new people are going to use legacy keys.
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