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scorch-
Profile Joined January 2011
United States816 Posts
January 25 2012 16:00 GMT
#1321
On January 25 2012 22:12 Bloodash wrote:also, how many other heroes can jungle effectively from lvl 1? enigma, furion,... dark seer perhaps?


SK can as well. Not as good as farming a lane, most likely, and you delay leveling your stun a little more than I would prefer, but it can be done from level 1 if you have 2 good solo heroes.
lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
January 25 2012 16:18 GMT
#1322
On January 26 2012 01:00 scorch- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 22:12 Bloodash wrote:also, how many other heroes can jungle effectively from lvl 1? enigma, furion,... dark seer perhaps?


SK can as well. Not as good as farming a lane, most likely, and you delay leveling your stun a little more than I would prefer, but it can be done from level 1 if you have 2 good solo heroes.


He's one of the "it can be done but I'd rather it weren't" heroes. Iff (sic) you have no other viable laning option then he can, but you do lose a lot from it.
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scorch-
Profile Joined January 2011
United States816 Posts
January 25 2012 16:58 GMT
#1323
Well, if you look at just SK's progression, it's slower, but if you look at SK + the hero soloing the long lane, their combined progression can be much faster assuming you have a potm or other hero that can effectively solo 1v2. SK jungling can keep on pace with a dual lane's xp if done correctly.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12174 Posts
January 25 2012 18:33 GMT
#1324
On January 26 2012 01:58 scorch- wrote:
Well, if you look at just SK's progression, it's slower, but if you look at SK + the hero soloing the long lane, their combined progression can be much faster assuming you have a potm or other hero that can effectively solo 1v2. SK jungling can keep on pace with a dual lane's xp if done correctly.


Is caustic really that good for jungling? SK has a bit low armor and no way to regen, if sand storm worked better I could see him working with a sand storm + caustic build, sand storm a weak creep, caustic for damage on the bigger ones. Should be very effective on stacked creeps, sadly sand storm doesn't work (last I checked). :/
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 25 2012 18:51 GMT
#1325
On January 26 2012 03:33 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 01:58 scorch- wrote:
Well, if you look at just SK's progression, it's slower, but if you look at SK + the hero soloing the long lane, their combined progression can be much faster assuming you have a potm or other hero that can effectively solo 1v2. SK jungling can keep on pace with a dual lane's xp if done correctly.


Is caustic really that good for jungling? SK has a bit low armor and no way to regen, if sand storm worked better I could see him working with a sand storm + caustic build, sand storm a weak creep, caustic for damage on the bigger ones. Should be very effective on stacked creeps, sadly sand storm doesn't work (last I checked). :/


I've been assuming they talking about Skeleton king?
scorch-
Profile Joined January 2011
United States816 Posts
January 25 2012 18:58 GMT
#1326
CRiXaLiS is not a good jungler.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12174 Posts
January 25 2012 19:07 GMT
#1327
Why does almost all dota tournament games start later than they should? Even when the teams have no official games prior?
St.Velten
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany222 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 21:43:52
January 25 2012 20:34 GMT
#1328
On January 26 2012 04:07 Yurie wrote:
Why does almost all dota tournament games start later than they should? Even when the teams have no official games prior?


I was wondering this also. To be fair it is hard to coordinate 10 players + casters but other games like cs hon and lol seem to be able to do it in time. The game is still in beta but that cant be the only reason for so many games to be delayed. Its sad to say but there seems to be a lack professionalism for some teams.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 21:00:23
January 25 2012 20:59 GMT
#1329
sk is skeleton king or sandking, but i think he's talking about skeleking
sandking can jungle alright too, though it depends a bit on the spawns

all heroes can jungle (if they aren't disturbed) at a decent rate by pulling, and most can jungle even without pulls, but generally it's fairly dangerous and not as effective as just being in lane. skeleking/mirana lane is better than sk in the jungle mirana lane most of the time

chen, enchant, enigma, furion, ursa, darkseer, axe, naix, and maybe batrider are probably the only heroes in dota 2 worth sending to the jungle
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
January 26 2012 03:29 GMT
#1330
Can somone show me some good invoker VODS, so i can see how CHinese teams are using him.
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3Y3S
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada177 Posts
January 26 2012 05:31 GMT
#1331
cant find the links off the top of my head, but mainly games casted my Nebu1a or Luminous featuring Ferrari_430 ( back when he was in ccm, when his invoker got famed) around 1 year ago or so. you'll find the vods on Dotacommentaries.com
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12174 Posts
January 26 2012 05:41 GMT
#1332
On January 26 2012 05:59 Dead9 wrote:
chen, enchant, enigma, furion, ursa, darkseer, axe, naix, and maybe batrider are probably the only heroes in dota 2 worth sending to the jungle


Rexxar can jungle quite well with stacked camps and axes. Needs bottle courier for it though. Only worthwhile if there is no good lane for him, he is a borderline case just as bat.
CountChocula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2068 Posts
January 26 2012 09:03 GMT
#1333
On January 26 2012 12:29 TheWarbler wrote:
Can somone show me some good invoker VODS, so i can see how CHinese teams are using him.

A bit old, but still good: http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/46331
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galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
January 26 2012 09:18 GMT
#1334
Where is a good place to get pro vods? I can't seem to find any on tobi's channel. I want commentated videos, not replays. Thanks much!
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smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
January 26 2012 11:26 GMT
#1335
Hi everybody.
When I a-click a creep and spam "stop" to get the moment right for the last hit, my hero will randomly attack another creep at times. I guess it's a problem on my side because others get it right, so what am I doing wrong?
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
January 26 2012 11:28 GMT
#1336
when you spam stop you cancel all previous commands, including your a-click, so your hero should hit the nearest creep instead of whatever you targeted after you stop spamming
3Y3S
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada177 Posts
January 26 2012 12:30 GMT
#1337
On January 26 2012 20:26 smr wrote:
Hi everybody.
When I a-click a creep and spam "stop" to get the moment right for the last hit, my hero will randomly attack another creep at times. I guess it's a problem on my side because others get it right, so what am I doing wrong?

nothing really, its about positioning, usually the hero targets the closest creep, which is why the "spamming stop" method is inferior to simply walking around then goign for the last hit;
its also worse because it makes you stand still for a long period of time (1 sec or so) making ganking you that much easier; its also bad because it lets ur lane opponent guess when ur going for the last hit, so in general its simply better to walk around then just a click the creep you want to get
3Y3S
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada177 Posts
January 26 2012 12:31 GMT
#1338
On January 26 2012 18:18 galtdunn wrote:
Where is a good place to get pro vods? I can't seem to find any on tobi's channel. I want commentated videos, not replays. Thanks much!

www.dotacommentaries.com;
lots of great content there
The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
January 26 2012 12:53 GMT
#1339
Personally I prefer walking around then 'a' clicking the creep as 3Y3S said, but spamming stop is not that much worse and I sometimes do it.

Just make sure u a click or right click the creep you want to last hit when it's low.
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
January 26 2012 13:30 GMT
#1340
When people go for the "walk around" method, do u guys walk around a spot like ure circling a patch of grass or sth, or do u just randomly go anywhere u want until u're rdy to get the last hit/deny?
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