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borlee
Liechtenstein246 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On December 11 2011 10:10 epoc wrote: I'm very stupid but I don't really know why you would creep pull. I mean sure you can last hit the jungle creeps but you can't be at two places at once killing the creeps at your tower. The tower takes damage Watch the opposing team's heroes when you pull, notice what they can actually do and at what cost. | ||
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noobcakes
United States526 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 11 2011 10:10 epoc wrote: I'm very stupid but I don't really know why you would creep pull. I mean sure you can last hit the jungle creeps but you can't be at two places at once killing the creeps at your tower. The tower takes damage You usually don't creep pull solo unless the lane is really far out and impossible for you to farm. In duo/trilane it lets the support get levels/gold without taking it away from the carry. Also, lane creeps that die to neutrals do not give XP to enemies, so if you pull a stacked camp or double pull, you can deny an entire wave of XP to the enemy. It also lets you manipulate where the creeps meet in lane, since a creep wave not being there pulls the lane back. Obviously you watch your opposing heroes to see what's going to happen. Don't pull if ditching your lane partner will get them denied/killed, or will make you lose the tower. | ||
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m3rciless
United States1476 Posts
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Darkren
Canada1841 Posts
On December 11 2011 14:45 m3rciless wrote: Don't really know if this is the place for this, but where would one go to buy a dota 2 key? Ebay doesn't seem to have any, only a steam account with dota 2 on it, which I don't want. I saw some on creglist but other than that their preaty rare, if their not on ebay ur chances are very slim. Gonna have to wait it out. | ||
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Yurie
12082 Posts
On December 11 2011 14:19 TheYango wrote: It also lets you manipulate where the creeps meet in lane, since a creep wave not being there pulls the lane back. Obviously you watch your opposing heroes to see what's going to happen. Don't pull if ditching your lane partner will get them denied/killed, or will make you lose the tower. There is another reason to pull, killing opponent tower. Say you have chen/chantress or furion in your jungle. You pull without stacking and quickly kill of the jungle creeps. This way you will have a dual wave hit the opponent tower, if you time it with a siege creep it does a lot of damage. Add on summons and a few creep clearing nukes and you can kill an entire tower using one pull without the opponent dual lane being able to stop it. | ||
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lozarian
United Kingdom1043 Posts
On December 11 2011 14:19 TheYango wrote: You usually don't creep pull solo unless the lane is really far out and impossible for you to farm. In duo/trilane it lets the support get levels/gold without taking it away from the carry. Also, lane creeps that die to neutrals do not give XP to enemies, so if you pull a stacked camp or double pull, you can deny an entire wave of XP to the enemy. It also lets you manipulate where the creeps meet in lane, since a creep wave not being there pulls the lane back. Obviously you watch your opposing heroes to see what's going to happen. Don't pull if ditching your lane partner will get them denied/killed, or will make you lose the tower. I do it as lycan occasionally - only when I'm forced to lane, then I self-stack and pull the lane with my wolves to make it safer for me, which gets a bit extra gold and helps me out. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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chocopaw
2072 Posts
When and why do you pick that hero in competetive DotA? | ||
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Yurie
12082 Posts
On December 11 2011 23:36 chocopaw wrote: mouz.Trixi (<333) just played Nightstalker versus Na'Vi. When and why do you pick that hero in competetive DotA? When? Always. Why? Great skills, good armor, good stats (HP). Slow and silence on a hero that can tank a lot and moves faster than anybody else on the map during night time. NS has the highest base armor of all heroes (as far as I can recall). NS is basically the best ganker in the game during night time. The AM that game got 787 GPM. Was sad. | ||
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Invoker
Belgium686 Posts
On December 11 2011 23:39 Yurie wrote: When? Always. Why? Great skills, good armor, good stats (HP). Slow and silence on a hero that can tank a lot and moves faster than anybody else on the map during night time. NS has the highest base armor of all heroes (as far as I can recall). NS is basically the best ganker in the game during night time. The AM that game got 787 GPM. Was sad. bam. headshot. | ||
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Hirosh
Germany267 Posts
On December 11 2011 23:39 Yurie wrote: When? Always. Why? Great skills, good armor, good stats (HP). Slow and silence on a hero that can tank a lot and moves faster than anybody else on the map during night time. NS has the highest base armor of all heroes (as far as I can recall). NS is basically the best ganker in the game during night time. The AM that game got 787 GPM. Was sad. you forgot one of the most important things: Sight Range! 1200 during day and 1800(!!) during night. theres only two more heroes witth that much sight during night (meepo/enchantress). standard for 85% of the heroes is 800. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 13 2011 05:11 Hirosh wrote: you forgot one of the most important things: Sight Range! 1200 during day and 1800(!!) during night. theres only two more heroes witth that much sight during night (meepo/enchantress). standard for 85% of the heroes is 800. You forgot about Slark.  Drow also has 1700 sight range at night. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On December 13 2011 08:48 TheYango wrote: You forgot about Slark. Drow also has 1700 sight range at night. And Luna with just one point in her third skill! Apparently Alchemist and Ancient Apparition also have1400 during night. Didn't know that. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
With Aghanim's of course. 1800 flying vision is no joke. Scepter + Gem equals massive headache to deal with. | ||
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nikj
Canada669 Posts
Is there any item guides out there for a new player? I have very little other Moba experience, (played a little LoL) But there didn't seem to be as much emphasis on actively using items in LoL, I know there were a few but It seems like in Dota nearly every item has an active. Thanks for any insight. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
Im not experienced with Dota but from what i gather, most of playdota is still relevant to dota2, including things like guides. if im wrong then for the love of god someone please correct me. www.dota2wiki.com also has lists of information about dota2 including items but I think they lack a guides section. Good Luck! | ||
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