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Tryxtira
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden572 Posts
September 18 2012 08:13 GMT
#3781
On September 18 2012 12:30 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 11:29 iokke wrote:
Can someone share some tips/pics on ways to shut down or decently counter lycan/ursa in pubs? I'm kinda new to this, only thing I could think of so far is for starters to have a hero that can spot when they go Rosh if theys moke (with spiderwebs/traps/hawk for example). They just been such a pain in pubs especially at my (low) level

First Rosh is actually not that big of a deal. Make sure you time the first Rosh though as second and especially 3rd Rosh are critical. Before second Rosh, you should ward the area with BOTH sentry and observer wards. The sentry wards still let you see them through smoke, and obviously also allows you to counterward. The only reason people get away with smoke-Roshes is that enemy supports are too lazy to use both sentries and observers, despite the fact that if there's ONE spot that you should sentry at that point in the game, it should be around the Rosh pit.

Also, Ghost Scepter is a necessity lategame against both heroes, particularly for supports. It's much more practical than Halberd, both because it's cheaper, and because both heroes will buy BKB.


I just want to concur with Yango. This is absolutely the best advice given so far. Just to clarify though, Roshan will always respawn 10 minutes after he's killed. That's the timing Yango is talking about!
melkkorr
Profile Joined November 2010
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 13:23:39
September 18 2012 13:23 GMT
#3782
Stupid question probably but i wanted to make sure. Critical strike items, like Crystalys, affect only physical damage and not magic, right?
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8866 Posts
September 18 2012 13:33 GMT
#3783
yes
only affects physical
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
September 18 2012 19:17 GMT
#3784
On September 18 2012 12:30 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 11:29 iokke wrote:
Can someone share some tips/pics on ways to shut down or decently counter lycan/ursa in pubs? I'm kinda new to this, only thing I could think of so far is for starters to have a hero that can spot when they go Rosh if theys moke (with spiderwebs/traps/hawk for example). They just been such a pain in pubs especially at my (low) level

First Rosh is actually not that big of a deal. Make sure you time the first Rosh though as second and especially 3rd Rosh are critical. Before second Rosh, you should ward the area with BOTH sentry and observer wards. The sentry wards still let you see them through smoke, and obviously also allows you to counterward. The only reason people get away with smoke-Roshes is that enemy supports are too lazy to use both sentries and observers, despite the fact that if there's ONE spot that you should sentry at that point in the game, it should be around the Rosh pit.

Also, Ghost Scepter is a necessity lategame against both heroes, particularly for supports. It's much more practical than Halberd, both because it's cheaper, and because both heroes will buy BKB.

Second rosh, ursa probably has blink, so common sentinel ward spots are easily bypassed.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 19 2012 00:02 GMT
#3785
How does the hero filter work? If I put in Spirit Breaker, Spiritbreaker, or Barathrum I still get zero results containing the hero I'm looking for. All the games just have a random assortment of heroes not including the one I'm filtering for ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
valheru
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia966 Posts
September 19 2012 01:28 GMT
#3786
Who is the manliest hero in Dota?
I reject your reality and substitute my own
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
September 19 2012 01:29 GMT
#3787
axe because he has beard
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 02:27:34
September 19 2012 02:27 GMT
#3788
Maybe a super dumb question but... after I gg'd a game, someone just responded with "ghouleh"... wtf is that? >_> lol

They said it's english too, lol
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 02:55:45
September 19 2012 02:54 GMT
#3789
Silencer. When he pops his ulti everyone in the world knows they need to imminently shut the fuck up.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
infam
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany66 Posts
September 19 2012 03:20 GMT
#3790
Im no support player and we had a rather interesting discussion earlier this evening: If you happen to be in a trilane with 2 rather level dependant hero against a solo laner and you zoned him out for some time what to do if there is no chance that you can pull of a succesfull gank?

Blame it on the draft? Blame carry for ordering them not to leech exp or pulling?
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 19 2012 03:30 GMT
#3791
On September 19 2012 12:20 infam wrote:
Im no support player and we had a rather interesting discussion earlier this evening: If you happen to be in a trilane with 2 rather level dependant hero against a solo laner and you zoned him out for some time what to do if there is no chance that you can pull of a succesfull gank?

Blame it on the draft? Blame carry for ordering them not to leech exp or pulling?

If by no successful gank chance you just mean you can't kill your 3v1 then you just dual roam assuming that your carry can handle the 1v1 lane. Smoke is handy here. If by no chance of successful gank in any lane then your team should be way ahead anyways (ie opponents all tower hugging, unable to get xp or ck).

If you are in a situation where you need to pull but can't... you should have started with sentries. Pretty standard for a support to do that if you're trilaning.

It also depends on the heroes, most supports do have some way of recovering outside of those two options, though most take at least level 2 (and most trilane support heroes are going to be way more effective at level 2 anyways, Veno might be the only exception here). CM for instance can jungle almost any camp with a point in frostbite. Lich can pull the easy camp on both sides, etc. Sometimes the draft might be the problem but that's generally just when you pick an unworkable trilane.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 03:48:08
September 19 2012 03:47 GMT
#3792
On September 19 2012 12:20 infam wrote:
Blame it on the draft? Blame carry for ordering them not to leech exp or pulling?

Why would your carry tell you not to pull creeps? A carry should be able to control the lane properly if the supports pull creeps properly (it actually should be EASIER to control the lane if the supports are properly denying full waves and not leaving any creeps alive)--and proper camp pulling is a huge windfall of gold and XP for the supports.

If your trilane is 3v1, and the enemy solo laner is not getting XP, the 2 supports should be pulling camps. Proper double/triple pulling allows for XP gains comparable to a full time jungler in many cases, and if you're not pulling, you're putting yourself behind.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12088 Posts
September 19 2012 04:58 GMT
#3793
On September 19 2012 11:27 Leyra wrote:
Maybe a super dumb question but... after I gg'd a game, someone just responded with "ghouleh"... wtf is that? >_> lol

They said it's english too, lol


Different spelling of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallu according to my google skills.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
September 19 2012 05:46 GMT
#3794
On September 19 2012 09:02 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
How does the hero filter work? If I put in Spirit Breaker, Spiritbreaker, or Barathrum I still get zero results containing the hero I'm looking for. All the games just have a random assortment of heroes not including the one I'm filtering for ^_^


you need to add a _ for heroes with a space

like Bounty_Hunter, Shadow_Shaman, Spirit_Breaker

etc
ffxiv enjoyer
EtherealBlade
Profile Joined August 2010
660 Posts
September 19 2012 07:57 GMT
#3795
On September 19 2012 10:28 valheru wrote:
Who is the manliest hero in Dota?

Skeleton King, although he has no testicles.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 19 2012 08:22 GMT
#3796
On September 19 2012 16:57 EtherealBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 10:28 valheru wrote:
Who is the manliest hero in Dota?

Skeleton King, although he has no testicles.

AXE IS ALL THE REINFORCEMENT THIS ARMY NEEDS
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
September 19 2012 08:34 GMT
#3797
The manliest hero in DotA2 is Axe.
Because beard.

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From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 19 2012 09:01 GMT
#3798
Skele king is by far the manliest as he is only hero that can die offensively(ult slows)
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 09:14:51
September 19 2012 09:12 GMT
#3799
Dumb reason, Phantom Lancer has a beard too. As does Sniper. And Disruptor. And Storm. And Beastmaster. And Spirit Breaker. And... You're also discriminating against Skeleton King just because he's bald.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 19 2012 09:16 GMT
#3800
On September 19 2012 18:12 Shikyo wrote:
Dumb reason, Phantom Lancer has a beard too. As does Sniper. And Disruptor. And Storm. And Beastmaster. And Spirit Breaker. And... You're also discriminating against Skeleton King just because he's bald.

When it comes to beards jakiro wins coz he has two
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