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bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
June 29 2012 17:45 GMT
#2861
Are there any Dota 2 heroes that weren't in Dota? If so, which?
If not, will there be?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
June 29 2012 17:47 GMT
#2862
On June 30 2012 02:45 bardtown wrote:
Are there any Dota 2 heroes that weren't in Dota? If so, which?
If not, will there be?

No. Once all the old heroes are implemented then they may develop new heroes for Dota2, but Icefrog has reportedly said that he will continue development of Dota1 alongside Dota2, meaning all new heroes will also be implemented into Dota1.
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Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 20:36:49
June 29 2012 20:36 GMT
#2863
On June 29 2012 13:15 The Great Taste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 04:30 Vaporized wrote:
can someone tell me the basic 'meta' like what hero type goes in which lane and 1-2 heroes that would be good for a noob to pick up and play for each lane.


Uh well it is generally 1 hero on the hard lane (Radiant Top, Dire Bot), 1 in middle, and 3 on safe lane (Radiant Bot, Dire Top) or 2 in safe lane and 1 in jungle.

thank you for taking the time to do that, it was exactly what i was looking for. i play a lot of LoL but for varius reasons am being more and more tempted to get into dota2 instead. its just i know all the items and heroes in LoL and none of the items or heroes in dota (except sniper which i played less then 5 games of dota1 with).
danana
Profile Joined March 2011
United States321 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 21:40:20
June 29 2012 21:39 GMT
#2864
So when you look at your own dota profile, what do the scores in that "Heroes played" tab actually mean? Is it actually a useful measure?

On June 30 2012 05:36 Vaporized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 13:15 The Great Taste wrote:
On June 29 2012 04:30 Vaporized wrote:
can someone tell me the basic 'meta' like what hero type goes in which lane and 1-2 heroes that would be good for a noob to pick up and play for each lane.


Uh well it is generally 1 hero on the hard lane (Radiant Top, Dire Bot), 1 in middle, and 3 on safe lane (Radiant Bot, Dire Top) or 2 in safe lane and 1 in jungle.

thank you for taking the time to do that, it was exactly what i was looking for. i play a lot of LoL but for varius reasons am being more and more tempted to get into dota2 instead. its just i know all the items and heroes in LoL and none of the items or heroes in dota (except sniper which i played less then 5 games of dota1 with).


I also just recently started getting into dota2 coming from LoL. I started off playing mostly Windrunner, and I think she's a pretty good place to start since she can go to any lane and still be useful without farm. She's also very good at escaping, which makes it easier to avoid feeding and angering teammates (I started off being very afraid of being clueless about dota2 but it turns out that i've been matched with a lot of even worse players, so I wouldn't worry too much)

I still don't know lane setups very well, but at the low level games I've played almost everyone locks in hard carries so I don't think they're (edit: by "they" i mean who goes to which lane) particularly important until later on. Some other support heroes that I've found relatively easy to pick up: Tidehunter, Crystal Maiden, Vengeful Spirit, Lich, Dazzle. And I think most supports can also take solo lanes and do alright with farm.
EtherealBlade
Profile Joined August 2010
660 Posts
June 29 2012 22:48 GMT
#2865
On June 30 2012 06:39 danana wrote:
So when you look at your own dota profile, what do the scores in that "Heroes played" tab actually mean? Is it actually a useful measure?


I think those performance bars are badly broken. They used to be a bit better before a "fix" that actually broke them even more, but it isn't high on Valve's priority list it seems.
sraelgaiznaer
Profile Joined October 2010
Philippines423 Posts
June 30 2012 12:41 GMT
#2866
is dota2 down?
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
June 30 2012 12:53 GMT
#2867
On June 30 2012 21:41 sraelgaiznaer wrote:
is dota2 down?

I'm playing it right now
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
June 30 2012 13:45 GMT
#2868
Restart your steam.
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ilovelings
Profile Joined January 2011
Argentina776 Posts
June 30 2012 14:44 GMT
#2869
Farmed Luna is scary.
People is diying.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12128 Posts
June 30 2012 14:59 GMT
#2870
On June 30 2012 07:48 Muki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 06:39 danana wrote:
So when you look at your own dota profile, what do the scores in that "Heroes played" tab actually mean? Is it actually a useful measure?


I think those performance bars are badly broken. They used to be a bit better before a "fix" that actually broke them even more, but it isn't high on Valve's priority list it seems.


When I've watched pro players bars they tend to be very high. I might recall incorrectly though.
Ganfei2
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
473 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 15:47:41
June 30 2012 15:44 GMT
#2871
On June 30 2012 23:59 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 07:48 Muki wrote:
On June 30 2012 06:39 danana wrote:
So when you look at your own dota profile, what do the scores in that "Heroes played" tab actually mean? Is it actually a useful measure?


I think those performance bars are badly broken. They used to be a bit better before a "fix" that actually broke them even more, but it isn't high on Valve's priority list it seems.


When I've watched pro players bars they tend to be very high. I might recall incorrectly though.


As it says in the description, it seems to base the values on a comparison between your performance and that of others at your ranking.

For example, I am like 10-0 on lycan, but my bars for him are relatively low. This is likely due to the fact that I haven't played him in 200 games and randomed him a lot when I had just started. Since I am much higher ranked now than then, it doesn't factor those games in very heavily because they occurred in a much lower MMR range than I currently am, even though my average is something like 700GPM and 20 KDR. Same for Ursa, I'm 5-0, huge KDR, huge GPM, but haven't played him in 2-300 games.

Then I'm something like 4-5 on Razor yet he has almost maxed bars. I'm like 3 KDR, 450 GPM average, but it is ranked much more highly because I played those Razor games in games of a comparable MMR to my current MMR. Same for Rhasta (5-2), Enchantress (1-4, still have almost full bars).

They made this more stringent last time they changed the bars. My heros all got significantly different rankings and many heros that I had almost full bars on are now at like 1 bar.

That's just my guess as to how the bars work based on what I've seen. You shouldn't really give a shit about them, either way. They don't show anything of particular value and neccessarily cannot be accurate since they almost certainly take into account GPM, KDR, and other things that are relative to the actual game and cannot be judged by a basic ranking algorithm.
tpmraven
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States833 Posts
July 01 2012 07:02 GMT
#2872
so i am watching col.mike stream, and as he is using shadow poision its showing a green line where he is going to cast it, before he casts. is that a mod, or an option i can turn on in game?
(⌐■_■) Like a boss
wihlborg
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden54 Posts
July 01 2012 07:33 GMT
#2873
Techies coming soon?
I LIEK CHOCOLATE MILK
RaiKhan
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands69 Posts
July 01 2012 10:09 GMT
#2874
On July 01 2012 16:02 tpmraven wrote:
so i am watching col.mike stream, and as he is using shadow poision its showing a green line where he is going to cast it, before he casts. is that a mod, or an option i can turn on in game?


Its one of the many options you can turn on through the console. In the console prompt, type:

dota_disable_range_finder "0"

For many more details, see this thread:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337793
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 17:37:34
July 01 2012 15:40 GMT
#2875
edit: whoops wrong thread
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
July 02 2012 13:36 GMT
#2876
On July 01 2012 16:33 wihlborg wrote:
Techies coming soon?


"Soon" Valve time, but probably after hl3.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
July 02 2012 14:02 GMT
#2877
On July 02 2012 22:36 LAN-f34r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 16:33 wihlborg wrote:
Techies coming soon?


"Soon" Valve time, but probably after hl3.


One can only hope so.......rather even better they completely forget about Techies. That would be great!
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
July 02 2012 14:45 GMT
#2878
Is there a ranked equivalent in Dota or is it just all public match making?
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
July 02 2012 14:51 GMT
#2879
On July 02 2012 23:45 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Is there a ranked equivalent in Dota or is it just all public match making?


Public match making is ranked... though there is no way to see your actual rank. You can, however, search your recent games and see if they were "low, mid, high" skilled games.

And that is the only match making there is.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
July 02 2012 14:56 GMT
#2880
or you can join IH leagues, or tournaments
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